If The PS3 and 360 Launched Together....(POLL)

that doesnt make any sense...and i dont think the question was stupid. a bit unoriginal and unimaginative but not stupid. you just overlooked the fact that he stated "WITH THE CURRENT LIBRARY OF GAMES" thus you made your mistake and are now trying to pass the buck so you dont look as ridiculous. no that wasnt a stupid answer....you justoverlooked a key phrase in the sentence

slvrraven9

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that doesnt make any sense...and i dont think the question was stupid. a bit unoriginal and unimaginative but not stupid. you just overlooked the fact that he stated "WITH THE CURRENT LIBRARY OF GAMES" thus you made your mistake and are now trying to pass the buck so you dont look as ridiculous. no that wasnt a stupid answer....you justoverlooked a key phrase in the sentence

Sgt_Crow

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If the PS3 and 360 had launched at the same time with the same games, the PS3 WOULDN'T have all these exclusives.

These recent exclusives, enjoyable though they are, are nothing but Sony's attempts at staying competitive. They have to keep pumping out all these titles and buying all these studios in order to keep their head afloat. If the PS3 had been released at a competitive price to the 360, I feel like it would have been just a super PS2 (which would have been awesome), with a stellar lineup of third party titles. Not only that but the games we play today would probably be completely different. Many people, including myself, bought the 360 over the PS3 because it was cheaper and brand loyalty only exists on internet forums, not in the real world market. Everyone wonders where the Japanese side of gaming has gone this gen. They haven't magically decreased in quality or disappeared from gaming just because... they've migrated to handhelds because PS3 was too expensive to dev for, people weren't buying it and Japan would never make the 360 their main platform. It is silly to think about it but I've always wondered what kind of JRPGs and other Japanese games on consoles we would see had Sony played their cards right at the beginning.

commonfate

This scenario is so weird... O_o

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="slvrraven9"] im sorry but you must not have read that PD:Z got a 9 here on GS also NFS:MW was a launch game. DOA4, Oblivion, Ghost Recon, Condemned, PGR3 alongside a selection of others honorable mentions. far from a great launch lineup??? it was argueably the best one this gen. wtf are you on???kuu2

Again $200 price difference and multi plats would have looked like dog doo or not launched on PS3 at all due to its unecessarily complex hardware.

I'd have both just as I do now. In fact nothing would change. I wouldn't buy either at launch, I would have waited for a PS3 price drop and I would have probably gotten the 360 first since it was cheaper.

Lets see PS3 launch titles against 360 launch titles and the PS3 is $200 more espensive. Throw in the multi plats at launch would be drastically better on 36o due to the complex unecessary architecture of the PS3. I think if they had launched at the same time it would have been even worse for Sony.

kuu2

*facepalm

The PS3 would have outsold the 360 from week 1 on if they launched together.

360 because I hated the PS2

In my humble opinion, the general community in System Wars is pretty smart for recognizing that the PS3 is the best console this generation. After seeing all the polls turn out like this, it just goes to show that the people here know their stuff. I often hear people refer to this place as Cowspot, but I beg to differ. I would call it people that are informed about gaming. I own all 3 current gen consoles and a PC, and all bias aside and all things taken into consideration, PS3 is the best console this generation. Not by a landslide, but by a significant margin.

The PS3 would have outsold the 360 from week 1 on if they launched together.

clr84651

Just for pure speculation... Without making any concious changes other than launch date, we would force a number of other variables to change as well. Assuming we move the PS3 forward to the 360's launch, we can rule out the inclusion of bluray. So one of PS3's significant advantages is gone. However, the PS3's higher price was largely due to BR, so without it, the PS3 would likely be at the same price point, quite possibly cheaper than 360. Just by putting them at the same launch date, we've already gotten rid of 360's biggest sales advantage (the year of being the only next gen system available. PS3 has outsold it pretty much ever since it was released, even at a higher price. By negating the price difference, there goes another advantage. The PS3 would likely have an objectively larger library as well. All those multiplats (and probably several exclusives) from before PS3 came out would have been on both. The fact that PS3 has put out more exclusives (at least rated A or above) in a year shorter span means that given the same amount of time, it would likely be MUCH higher. Of course, we have no way of knowing if things would have panned out that way, or how many other things would have been different due to ripple effects, so it's pretty pointless.

I'd still get both consoles... I'd get a PS3 first followed by a 360 but i'd definately pick up both systems..

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] im sorry but you must not have read that PD:Z got a 9 here on GS also NFS:MW was a launch game. DOA4, Oblivion, Ghost Recon, Condemned, PGR3 alongside a selection of others honorable mentions. far from a great launch lineup??? it was argueably the best one this gen. wtf are you on???tormentos

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]If you had your way in the debate the ps3 would have evolved under the hypothetical to be a super computer that bathed the world in forever warm light and fed the world and gave us world peace the 360 would have evolved to have a 100% failure..rate..etc In short there is no point in debating with you.tormentos

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]

that doesnt make any sense...and i dont think the question was stupid. a bit unoriginal and unimaginative but not stupid. you just overlooked the fact that he stated "WITH THE CURRENT LIBRARY OF GAMES" thus you made your mistake and are now trying to pass the buck so you dont look as ridiculous. no that wasnt a stupid answer....you justoverlooked a key phrase in the sentence

Sgt_Crow

again youre making yourself look ridiculous.

If the PS3 and 360 had launched at the same time with the same games, the PS3 WOULDN'T have all these exclusives.

These recent exclusives, enjoyable though they are, are nothing but Sony's attempts at staying competitive. They have to keep pumping out all these titles and buying all these studios in order to keep their head afloat. If the PS3 had been released at a competitive price to the 360, I feel like it would have been just a super PS2 (which would have been awesome), with a stellar lineup of third party titles. Not only that but the games we play today would probably be completely different. Many people, including myself, bought the 360 over the PS3 because it was cheaper and brand loyalty only exists on internet forums, not in the real world market. Everyone wonders where the Japanese side of gaming has gone this gen. They haven't magically decreased in quality or disappeared from gaming just because... they've migrated to handhelds because PS3 was too expensive to dev for, people weren't buying it and Japan would never make the 360 their main platform. It is silly to think about it but I've always wondered what kind of JRPGs and other Japanese games on consoles we would see had Sony played their cards right at the beginning.

Here it got 9.0 on Meta and Game rankings it has 81 far under that 9 gamespot claimed. Some of the game you mention were not launch games,they arrived several months after launch. Oblivion = march 2006. Not exclusive also on PC. Ghost Recon = March 2006. NOt exclusive also on PC. NFS most wanted wasn't even console exclusive it was on PS2. It was basically on launch PDZ,PGR3,Kameo and a truck load of ports. Considering that if both units would have release at the same time many of those games would have also landed on PS3 at the same time it make it null for the purpose of this thread,sony did not had a great also.tormentos

Again $200 price difference and multi plats would have looked like dog doo or not launched on PS3 at all due to its unecessarily complex hardware.

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] meanwhile xbox has not been pumping out exclusives you say? i beg to differ....tormentos

Allright this topic just gives the ps3 credit...

So you say 2 years older hardware needs to win from the hardware of ps3? The 360 is then atleast -100€/$ not the same startprice -,- that would be stupid for microsoft.

So I see why most of the people here choose for the ps3 -,-.

[QUOTE="slvrraven9"] the irony is that 5 years later, all those perks and bonuses are not enough to catapult the PS3 ahead of the 360 in the sales game. 5 years later its still only creeping up on the 360 which even still has comparable sales and half the time, more sales than the ps3. go figure. and lets not play the RROD game...ive grown very tired of the semantics here on SWtormentos

360 would still destroy the PS3 even more so. It's likely MS wouldn't have the RROD issue that plagued earlier system.