If the PS3 doesn't outsell the 360 in March,then KZ2 will have failed.

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#101 TX360
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="lolfaqs"]

And, as I illustrated, units sold is a meaningless yardstick if you have a price variable that isn't constant.

lolfaqs

Actually, that's not true. Business often go after marketshare (i.e. units sold) as a core strategy, even at the expense of profit (see MS last gen). It's an accepted method of getting a foothold or regaining a foothold in an industry in order to attain future expected profits.

Well, if you're going by market share and units sold, both 360 and PS3 sold just over 10 million consoles each in 2008 despite PS3 costing twice as much.

*sighs* are you a child xbox brand vs the more powerful sony brand it's simple kid.
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#102 TX360
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Oh and the source for that Business Week article isn't even sure if PS3 is still sold at a loss. They're speculating. Furthermore:

Having sold the PS3 at a loss for its entire life span so far, iSuppli says, Sony may reach the break-even point with the PS3 in 2009, and start turning a profit on the consoles after that. "Every time we do a teardown, it's sort of backward-looking," says iSuppli analyst Andrew Rassweiler. "Sony is one step ahead of us and probably has plans to re-spin the hardware to reduce the costs yet again," he says.

So they really are just pulling numbers out of no where for 2009.

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You really don't want to lose but the fact is you have been proven wrong by ironbass countless times.
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#103 killab2oo5
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PS3 already outsells the 360 most months in total revenue.

$400 per console versus $200 per console. Do the math.

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#105 AdmiralBison
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lemmings and sheep play sales

cows play games.

Rhubarb9

really?

It seem that the Xbox360 is used moreto play games, it has ha a higher attach ratio over ps3 for some time now

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#106 -Melix-
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All 1st party games are flag bearers for their respective consoles,some even become mascots.But all are designed to raise the profile of the console and boost sales.

That brings me on to KZ2.We all know that sales of the game have been slightly disappointing,but cows seem to be ignoring or denying another obvious truth here: that KZ2 was supposed to be the killer-app for teh PS3.

Consider the following:

-Tens of millions of dollars were spent developing the game along with its engine.

-It took around a half-decade to complete.

-It was Sony's showpiece at numerous events and conferences.

Now when you consider those things,there is no doubt in my mind what Sony was intending here.They saw the enormous success of Halo 3 and GeoW,and said "hey,we want I slice of that".

With all the resources devoted to the game there is no way Sony didn't expect KZ2 to move hardware,heck even MGS4 did for a little while.That's why,whether cows like it or not,KZ2 will not have done the job Sony wanted it to do if the PS3 doesn't beat out the 360 for at least one month.

GabeNewellsPie

lol, then going by your logic halo 3 is a faliure aswell. Since it wasnt able to outsell the ps3 during the mounth it was out..... Congrats you have just owned yourself

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#107 masiisam
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With how the economy is...I would be surprised if sales jumped all that much for the PS3...A $400 system is still a $400 system...

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#108 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

All 1st party games are flag bearers for their respective consoles,some even become mascots.But all are designed to raise the profile of the console and boost sales.

That brings me on to KZ2.We all know that sales of the game have been slightly disappointing,but cows seem to be ignoring or denying another obvious truth here: that KZ2 was supposed to be the killer-app for teh PS3.

Consider the following:

-Tens of millions of dollars were spent developing the game along with its engine.

-It took around a half-decade to complete.

-It was Sony's showpiece at numerous events and conferences.

Now when you consider those things,there is no doubt in my mind what Sony was intending here.They saw the enormous success of Halo 3 and GeoW,and said "hey,we want I slice of that".

With all the resources devoted to the game there is no way Sony didn't expect KZ2 to move hardware,heck even MGS4 did for a little while.That's why,whether cows like it or not,KZ2 will not have done the job Sony wanted it to do if the PS3 doesn't beat out the 360 for at least one month.

-Melix-

lol, then going by your logic halo 3 is a faliure aswell. Since it wasnt able to outsell the ps3 during the mounth it was out..... Congrats you have just owned yourself

ummm news flash the 360 completely annhilated the PS3 sales when Halo 3 came out........And the 360 has been outselling now since last september by a very healthy margin.

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#109 -Melix-
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[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

[QUOTE="GabeNewellsPie"]

All 1st party games are flag bearers for their respective consoles,some even become mascots.But all are designed to raise the profile of the console and boost sales.

That brings me on to KZ2.We all know that sales of the game have been slightly disappointing,but cows seem to be ignoring or denying another obvious truth here: that KZ2 was supposed to be the killer-app for teh PS3.

Consider the following:

-Tens of millions of dollars were spent developing the game along with its engine.

-It took around a half-decade to complete.

-It was Sony's showpiece at numerous events and conferences.

Now when you consider those things,there is no doubt in my mind what Sony was intending here.They saw the enormous success of Halo 3 and GeoW,and said "hey,we want I slice of that".

With all the resources devoted to the game there is no way Sony didn't expect KZ2 to move hardware,heck even MGS4 did for a little while.That's why,whether cows like it or not,KZ2 will not have done the job Sony wanted it to do if the PS3 doesn't beat out the 360 for at least one month.

Fizzman

lol, then going by your logic halo 3 is a faliure aswell. Since it wasnt able to outsell the ps3 during the mounth it was out..... Congrats you have just owned yourself

ummm news flash the 360 completely annhilated the PS3 sales when Halo 3 came out........And the 360 has been outselling now since last september by a very healthy margin.

are you kidding me?? I guarentee you that ps3 out sold it, even tho it didnt have any games.... 360 started to outsell the ps3 when it got a price cut buddy.....

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#110 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="-Melix-"]

lol, then going by your logic halo 3 is a faliure aswell. Since it wasnt able to outsell the ps3 during the mounth it was out..... Congrats you have just owned yourself

-Melix-

ummm news flash the 360 completely annhilated the PS3 sales when Halo 3 came out........And the 360 has been outselling now since last september by a very healthy margin.

are you kidding me?? I guarentee you that ps3 out sold it, even tho it didnt have any games.... 360 started to outsell the ps3 when it got a price cut buddy.....

sorry buddy you are wrong very wrong

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/18/september-npd-xbox-360-takes-the-lead-halo-3-to-thank/