If the PS3 is the best console, why is it still in last place after six years?

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PLEASE READ! After seeing this thread I decided to go out and ask this very question to 50 random people. I went to 3 local Gamestops, 2 Best Buys, 2 Wal Marts, and one Target. I approached these random people and asked them, "if the ps3 is the best console, why is it in last place?". Once I obtained all the data, looked through the responses, I came to a general consensus. I don't want this to go over anybody's head or be too complicated, so I will use a language that everyone can easily understand. Out of the 50 responses, 49 of them came to this conclusion. "the ps3 fukin sucks". 1 out of 50 came to the the conclusion of "derp, derp, cows suck baboon nuts".
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#102 Cheleman
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Casuals > Hardcore

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#103 todd2r
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PLEASE READ! After seeing this thread I decided to go out and ask this very question to 50 random people. I went to 3 local Gamestops, 2 Best Buys, 2 Wal Marts, and one Target. I approached these random people and asked them, "if the ps3 is the best console, why is it in last place?". Once I obtained all the data, looked through the responses, I came to a general consensus. I don't want this to go over anybody's head or be too complicated, so I will use a language that everyone can easily understand. Out of the 50 responses, 49 of them came to this conclusion. "the ps3 fukin sucks". 1 out of 50 came to the the conclusion of "derp, derp, cows suck baboon nuts".
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#104 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Dawnguard

derptholomew

Due to lazy devs and exclusive MS deal. Has nothing to do with PS3, as IGN clearly showed. IGN are experts, they get paid to know their stuff, you do not. You are just internet troll fanboy cheeta man.

IGN knows what's what. The Lems have been owned. Which always happens. PS3 is the best system, even IGN agrees.

still no dawnguard for you, metro boy, now take your preppy ass over to ign where they praise the ps3, gamespot knows whats what more than they do, and here they know the 360 is the best cause it actually has working multiplats

Prove it.

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#105 tastetheacidmil
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the wii and 360 have ruined to ps3 to no return this gen, cows are just only coming to terms with this, they need to brag about those ps3 exclusives that they hardly buy to compensate for the pain they are still feeling this gen
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#106 menes777
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[QUOTE="derptholomew"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Due to lazy devs and exclusive MS deal. Has nothing to do with PS3, as IGN clearly showed. IGN are experts, they get paid to know their stuff, you do not. You are just internet troll fanboy cheeta man.

IGN knows what's what. The Lems have been owned. Which always happens. PS3 is the best system, even IGN agrees.

ShadowMoses900

still no dawnguard for you, metro boy, now take your preppy ass over to ign where they praise the ps3, gamespot knows whats what more than they do, and here they know the 360 is the best cause it actually has working multiplats

Prove it.

LOL sucks to be a PS3 owner right now if you were hoping for that DLC.

http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/

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#107 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="derptholomew"] still no dawnguard for you, metro boy, now take your preppy ass over to ign where they praise the ps3, gamespot knows whats what more than they do, and here they know the 360 is the best cause it actually has working multiplatsmenes777

Prove it.

LOL sucks to be a PS3 owner right now if you were hoping for that DLC.

http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/

That is not proof. Bethesda didn't say it won't come to PS3, just that they are having issues with it because they are lazy devs. And there are other aspects like MS having exclusive deal with Bethesda.

It does suck for PS3 owners though, I am one and love Skyrim. But Dawnguard is not really that great like people pretend it is. It's decent but not amazing. I know because I played Dawnguard before and beat it's main quest, which was pretty short really. I liked the Werewolf perks though.

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#108 rockydog1111
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Sales only count if your console is in first place.

There is no best console this gen. MS has definately had their issues (RRoD), Sony has definately had their issues(PSN getting hacked, overly expensive at launch, and the initial drought of games early on), and Nintendo has had their issues(No online worth talking about, serious droughts, hit or miss controls, and lackluster exclusives outside of Galaxy series)

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[QUOTE="todd2r"]PLEASE READ! After seeing this thread I decided to go out and ask this very question to 50 random people. I went to 3 local Gamestops, 2 Best Buys, 2 Wal Marts, and one Target. I approached these random people and asked them, "if the ps3 is the best console, why is it in last place?". Once I obtained all the data, looked through the responses, I came to a general consensus. I don't want this to go over anybody's head or be too complicated, so I will use a language that everyone can easily understand. Out of the 50 responses, 49 of them came to this conclusion. "the ps3 fukin sucks". 1 out of 50 came to the the conclusion of "derp, derp, cows suck baboon nuts". ispeakfact

Jelly? Someone's not happy about my extensive research. You're all about facts so I gave you some. Don't get mad about the results.
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#111 todd2r_Partdeux
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PLEASE READ! After seeing this thread I decided to go out and ask this very question to 50 random people. I went to 3 local Gamestops, 2 Best Buys, 2 Wal Marts, and one Target. I approached these random people and asked them, "if the ps3 is the best console, why is it in last place?". Once I obtained all the data, looked through the responses, I came to a general consensus. I don't want this to go over anybody's head or be too complicated, so I will use a language that everyone can easily understand. Out of the 50 responses, 49 of them came to this conclusion. "the ps3 fukin sucks". 1 out of 50 came to the the conclusion of "derp, derp, cows suck baboon nuts". todd2r
LMAO! Good one my fearless leader.
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#112 Joedgabe
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I have bought a Wii which is the one in first place.. and believe me it certainly doesn't feel like i've bought a winner. With a Ps3 and Pc combo you pretty much play all the good games there is. Ps3/360/ Pc have the same good games anyways.

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#113 AM-Gamer
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It is the top selling console Worldwide this year, if you are going by sales then the Wii is the best console wich I think we all know that is far from the truth. Sales rarely have anything to do with quality.

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#114 4dr1el
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Why idiots keep forgetting the PS3 was the last console coming out? Wasnt for the one year head start and the x360 would be the one in last place...

Also sales =/= quality or COD would be the best game ever released

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#115 YoshiYogurt
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Ps3 is currently the best console -Most durable console and games(blu ray disks) -Most games -Blu ray player -Free online -wifi built in first I really regret not getting one. My 360 gets 1 good game a year....
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#116 locopatho
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The best doesn;t always win, sadly. Wii ruined that :P
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#117 jackfruitchips
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because sales =/= quality

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This. And many people are too dumb to know its' the best
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#118 psymon100
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[QUOTE="todd2r"]PLEASE READ! After seeing this thread I decided to go out and ask this very question to 50 random people. I went to 3 local Gamestops, 2 Best Buys, 2 Wal Marts, and one Target. I approached these random people and asked them, "if the ps3 is the best console, why is it in last place?". Once I obtained all the data, looked through the responses, I came to a general consensus. I don't want this to go over anybody's head or be too complicated, so I will use a language that everyone can easily understand. Out of the 50 responses, 49 of them came to this conclusion. "the ps3 fukin sucks". 1 out of 50 came to the the conclusion of "derp, derp, cows suck baboon nuts". todd2r_Partdeux
LMAO! Good one my fearless leader.

:D

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#119 CaseyWegner
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Why idiots keep forgetting the PS3 was the last console coming out? Wasnt for the one year head start and the x360 would be the one in last place...

Also sales =/= quality or COD would be the best game ever released

4dr1el

the wii came out after the 360 and it has outsold it.

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#120 Phazevariance
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because sales =/= quality

CaseyWegner
Lol, yet quality = sales... so why is it that people aren't buying ps3's as much as the other two consoles? Because if you already have a 360, why bother with a ps3.
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#121 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

because sales =/= quality

Phazevariance

Lol, yet quality = sales... so why is it that people aren't buying ps3's as much as the other two consoles? Because if you already have a 360, why bother with a ps3.

yeah. this has been the multiplat generation.

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#122 Innovazero2000
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[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Prove it.

ShadowMoses900

LOL sucks to be a PS3 owner right now if you were hoping for that DLC.

http://www.slashgear.com/dawnguard-ps3-may-not-see-release-as-problems-persist-31245504/

That is not proof. Bethesda didn't say it won't come to PS3, just that they are having issues with it because they are lazy devs. And there are other aspects like MS having exclusive deal with Bethesda.

It does suck for PS3 owners though, I am one and love Skyrim. But Dawnguard is not really that great like people pretend it is. It's decent but not amazing. I know because I played Dawnguard before and beat it's main quest, which was pretty short really. I liked the Werewolf perks though.

Explain how they are lazy, you talk about proof relative to the link, where is your proof? Are you also going to call the many devs and indie devs that have developed on both and stated both machines are similar in power? Are they lying? I see cows use the argument that sales don't matter, cows don't talk sales. If I recall in the middle of this generation right before the ps3 started to churn out solid AAA games, when the 360 was the one with all the games. Lemmings used the games, and cows used the "one year head start blah, blah, blah" or the many threads about "ohhh ps3 sold more worldwide then...." and now we see a role reversal. Fanboys will be fanboys, whatever argument fits the bill. Opinions aren't facts, they are opinions for a reason. The fact is MS has increased it's market share, Sony has lost market share. They did it with aggressive marketing, and lets face it... they provided a solid value in the beginning that Sony didn't provide. The ps3 is a solid system, but the fact is...too many mistakes hampered it this generation and the fan base didn't catch on till it was too late in the generation.
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Would you rather have Filet Mignon from a five star resturaunt or have a crusty cheeseburger from McDonalds? 360 is the crusty cheezeburger from MacDonalds. Most people would rather have the Filet Mignon but they can't afford it and they live in the boondocks so they settle for whatever they can get.

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#124 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Because the 360 had a huge headstart advantage to sell more consoles, if PS3 had that extra time it would be 2nd place

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#125 todd2r_Partdeux
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Would you rather have Filet Mignon from a five star resturaunt or have a crusty cheeseburger from McDonalds? 360 is the crusty cheezeburger from MacDonalds. Most people would rather have the Filet Mignon but they can't afford it and they live in the boondocks so they settle for whatever they can get.

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They can't afford 249 bucks, but they can afford a 360? Derp derp. Excuses, excuses. Take the ass whipping like a man and quit making excuses. I think I might go out and buy some cheeseburgers and a few more 360s just to pad the stats late in the 4th quarter.
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#126 CaseyWegner
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Because the 360 had a huge headstart advantage to sell more consoles, if PS3 had that extra time it would be 2nd place

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how'd the wii do it?

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#127 MonsieurX
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Because the 360 had a huge headstart advantage to sell more consoles, if PS3 had that extra time it would be 2nd place

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2nd is like 3rd
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#128 lundy86_4
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Would you rather have Filet Mignon from a five star resturaunt or have a crusty cheeseburger from McDonalds? 360 is the crusty cheezeburger from MacDonalds. Most people would rather have the Filet Mignon but they can't afford it and they live in the boondocks so they settle for whatever they can get.

Pray_to_me

The PS3 is the crusty cheeseburger. You got confused. It's ok.

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#129 jsmoke03
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="coasterguy65"]

Dawnguard

derptholomew

Due to lazy devs and exclusive MS deal. Has nothing to do with PS3, as IGN clearly showed. IGN are experts, they get paid to know their stuff, you do not. You are just internet troll fanboy cheeta man.

IGN knows what's what. The Lems have been owned. Which always happens. PS3 is the best system, even IGN agrees.

still no dawnguard for you, metro boy, now take your preppy ass over to ign where they praise the ps3, gamespot knows whats what more than they do, and here they know the 360 is the best cause it actually has working multiplats

is it because of the ram that the game isn't running right? because plenty of games run right on the ps3
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#130 jsmoke03
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Because the 360 had a huge headstart advantage to sell more consoles, if PS3 had that extra time it would be 2nd place

CaseyWegner

how'd the wii do it?

wii sports & wii fit....
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#132 AmazonTreeBoa
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Take the total units sold and divide that by how many months that system has been out and you will see the 360 is the one in last place. The only reason it's total units sold is higher is because it got a year head start. But in reality, overall the PS3 has sold better. But this is SW and most don't like to look at the facts.
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#133 GunSmith1_basic
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kinect has given the 360 a second wind. That is the only reason at this point that the ps3 is still behind in sales.
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#134 Jethawk11
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The only reason the 360 is ahead in sales is because it had a head start. The PS3 is the truly dominant console that provides the best gaming experience.

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#135 derptholomew
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Take the total units sold and divide that by how many months that system has been out and you will see the 360 is the one in last place. The only reason it's total units sold is higher is because it got a year head start. But in reality, overall the PS3 has sold better. But this is SW and most don't like to look at the facts.AmazonTreeBoa
this is the attitude of ps3 fanboys? always trying to make the ps3 look better anyway possible huh! face it the ps3 is the least desired system and the one that damn near bankrupted sony
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#136 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Didn't ps3 come out a year later? Let's be fair, here. Also, Microsoft rebranded the entire Xbox with Kinect, so now a lot of little kids want it for kinectimals and Sesame Street.
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#137 04dcarraher
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Lets not forget the re-buy's that the 360 has had in the last 6 years...... Which most likely counts for a good chunk of MS's total sales count for 360's. From almost everyone that I know that plays on 360 as their primary platform they all have at least bought one replacement. And a few are on their 2nd or 3rd which MS didn't cover the problem.
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#138 todd2r_Partdeux
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Lets not forget the re-buy's that the 360 has had in the last 6 years...... Which most likely counts for a good chunk of MS's total sales count for 360's. From almost everyone that I know that plays on 360 as their primary platform they all have at least bought one replacement. And a few are on their 2nd or 3rd which MS didn't cover the problem. 04dcarraher
Agreed. I'm on my 6th one now. As a matter of fact, I think I will go buy 3 more today just to support MS. I love giving them my money and supporting the Playstation destruction.
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Lets not forget the re-buy's that the 360 has had in the last 6 years...... Which most likely counts for a good chunk of MS's total sales count for 360's. From almost everyone that I know that plays on 360 as their primary platform they all have at least bought one replacement. And a few are on their 2nd or 3rd which MS didn't cover the problem. 04dcarraher
Yes and that accurately depicts the whole installed base of the 360. :roll: Evertyone that I know is on their 2nd or 3rd PS3. See I can play that same game too...

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#140 g0ddyX
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Way too many factors to consider. Such as...
The pricing, The launch dates, The marketing, The core-audience, The buyers, The timing, The exclusives, The ratings, The reviews, The nostalgia, The demand, The innovation, The specifications... etc etc.

Just because a Ford sells more and cheaper than a Ferrari does'nt make the Ford better.
Simple logic.

In my opinion, I think its GOOD that PS3 is in 3rd place for sales as it still is shoving out better and bigger games than the 1st place for sales.

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Lets not forget the re-buy's that the 360 has had in the last 6 years...... Which most likely counts for a good chunk of MS's total sales count for 360's. From almost everyone that I know that plays on 360 as their primary platform they all have at least bought one replacement. And a few are on their 2nd or 3rd which MS didn't cover the problem. Bruce_Benzing

Yes and that accurately depicts the whole installed base of the 360. :roll: Evertyone that I know is on their 2nd or 3rd PS3. See I can play that same game too...

awww someone in denial?

Lets ignore the RRoD rates from 2005-2009, lets ignore the E74 and E79 or other error rates,lets ignore the things that MS does not cover after the 1st or 3rd year, lets ignore impulse buying habits of many people that cant wait weeks to get their xbox repaired. The last time I sent a 360 off to be replaced the UPS store clerk there said he gets 40+ of them a week on average, if you think about it... that's awful, MS finally got a hold of the RRoD and e74 error rates when jasper chip released and the better with the Slim. But again from 2006-2009 MS's 360's sale percentages were increased by many re-buys... Also lets not forget that the 360 sales from 2011 vs 2012 dropped 40% overall, which tells you that between everyone that wants a 360 has one, and their recent console models are more reliable lasting longer without issue. Out of all the PS3 users that I know 98% of them still on their 1st one.

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#142 derptholomew
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Lets not forget the re-buy's that the 360 has had in the last 6 years...... Which most likely counts for a good chunk of MS's total sales count for 360's. From almost everyone that I know that plays on 360 as their primary platform they all have at least bought one replacement. And a few are on their 2nd or 3rd which MS didn't cover the problem. 04dcarraher

Yes and that accurately depicts the whole installed base of the 360. :roll: Evertyone that I know is on their 2nd or 3rd PS3. See I can play that same game too...

awww someone in denial? lets ignore the RRoD rates from 2005-2009, lets ignore the E74 and E79 or other error rates,lets ignore the things that MS doesn't cover after the 1st or 3rd year, lets ignore impulse buying habits of many people that cant wait weeks to get their xbox repaired. The last time I sent a 360 off to be replaced the UPS store clerk there said he gets 40+ of them a week on average, if you think about it... that's awful, MS finally got a hold of the RRoD and e74 error rates when jasper chip of the 360 released and the Slim. But again from 2006-2009 MS's 360's sale percentages were increased by many re-buys... Also lets not forget that the 360 sales from 2011 vs 2012 dropped 40% overall, which tells you that between everyone that wants a 360 has one, and their consoles are more reliable lasting longer without issue. Out of all the PS3 users that I know 98% of them still on their 1st one.

lets also ignore the YLOD of the ps3 in which sony offers you to pay 200 dollars to get it fixed, atleast ms offers 3 year warranty and pays all shipping costs to fix rrod, sony basiclly forces you to rebuy the console, cows conviently ignore this fact. also in before ylod was less significant when all early models of both ps3 and 360 where built to break cause of the old chips and build
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#143 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"] Yes and that accurately depicts the whole installed base of the 360. :roll: Evertyone that I know is on their 2nd or 3rd PS3. See I can play that same game too...derptholomew
awww someone in denial? lets ignore the RRoD rates from 2005-2009, lets ignore the E74 and E79 or other error rates,lets ignore the things that MS doesn't cover after the 1st or 3rd year, lets ignore impulse buying habits of many people that cant wait weeks to get their xbox repaired. The last time I sent a 360 off to be replaced the UPS store clerk there said he gets 40+ of them a week on average, if you think about it... that's awful, MS finally got a hold of the RRoD and e74 error rates when jasper chip of the 360 released and the Slim. But again from 2006-2009 MS's 360's sale percentages were increased by many re-buys... Also lets not forget that the 360 sales from 2011 vs 2012 dropped 40% overall, which tells you that between everyone that wants a 360 has one, and their consoles are more reliable lasting longer without issue. Out of all the PS3 users that I know 98% of them still on their 1st one.

lets also ignore the YLOD of the ps3 in which sony offers you to pay 200 dollars to get it fixed, atleast ms offers 3 year warranty and pays all shipping costs to fix rrod, sony basiclly forces you to rebuy the console, cows conviently ignore this fact. also in before ylod was less significant when all early models of both ps3 and 360 where built to break cause of the old chips and build

YLOD is a heck of alot smaller issue then the RRoD ever was, and lets not forget all the Error types and other hardware issues that MS does not cover after the 1st year and or 3rd year making someone pay MS $100-$150 to have it repaired. My household alone has seen three RRoD's, which two were covered by the 3 year RRoD while the last one was not covered, and latest one had an E79 error that is also not covered, Lets not forget that Slim model of the 360 does not have the same warranty as the older 360's with the 3 year RRoD and E74. after your 1st year is up your done unless you bought the extended warranty.

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#144 Bruce_Benzing
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Lets not forget the re-buy's that the 360 has had in the last 6 years...... Which most likely counts for a good chunk of MS's total sales count for 360's. From almost everyone that I know that plays on 360 as their primary platform they all have at least bought one replacement. And a few are on their 2nd or 3rd which MS didn't cover the problem. 04dcarraher

Yes and that accurately depicts the whole installed base of the 360. :roll: Evertyone that I know is on their 2nd or 3rd PS3. See I can play that same game too...

awww someone in denial?

Lets ignore the RRoD rates from 2005-2009, lets ignore the E74 and E79 or other error rates,lets ignore the things that MS does not cover after the 1st or 3rd year, lets ignore impulse buying habits of many people that cant wait weeks to get their xbox repaired. The last time I sent a 360 off to be replaced the UPS store clerk there said he gets 40+ of them a week on average, if you think about it... that's awful, MS finally got a hold of the RRoD and e74 error rates when jasper chip released and the better with the Slim. But again from 2006-2009 MS's 360's sale percentages were increased by many re-buys... Also lets not forget that the 360 sales from 2011 vs 2012 dropped 40% overall, which tells you that between everyone that wants a 360 has one, and their recent console models are more reliable lasting longer without issue. Out of all the PS3 users that I know 98% of them still on their 1st one.

So refuting your obvious unproven claims that 'all of your friends are on there 2nd or 3rd 360' is denial and then you post more made up stories. Nice job making things up....

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#145 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"] Yes and that accurately depicts the whole installed base of the 360. :roll: Evertyone that I know is on their 2nd or 3rd PS3. See I can play that same game too...

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awww someone in denial?

Lets ignore the RRoD rates from 2005-2009, lets ignore the E74 and E79 or other error rates,lets ignore the things that MS does not cover after the 1st or 3rd year, lets ignore impulse buying habits of many people that cant wait weeks to get their xbox repaired. The last time I sent a 360 off to be replaced the UPS store clerk there said he gets 40+ of them a week on average, if you think about it... that's awful, MS finally got a hold of the RRoD and e74 error rates when jasper chip released and the better with the Slim. But again from 2006-2009 MS's 360's sale percentages were increased by many re-buys... Also lets not forget that the 360 sales from 2011 vs 2012 dropped 40% overall, which tells you that between everyone that wants a 360 has one, and their recent console models are more reliable lasting longer without issue. Out of all the PS3 users that I know 98% of them still on their 1st one.

So refuting your obvious unproven claims that 'all of your friends are on there 2nd or 3rd 360' is denial and then you post more made up stories. Nice job making things up....

:lol: You cant handle the truth!
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#146 tormentos
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Discuss.

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So Mario Kart is better than Halo... It sold 33 million copies...
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#147 RyanShazam
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If the amove succeeded Sony would have gone "Casual" It's that fact that it flopped which is why they didn't lol