If there is one thing this acquisition (of Bethesda) has made absolutely clear............

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#1 StrongDeadlift
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Is that absolutely ANYTHING is on the table. There are no "rules" anymore. There is no conventional logic or wisdom we can use as precedent for what is practical and what is not.

Remember those rumors several months ago of MS buying Sega, or CDProjekt Red (that have actually been floating around for years, Phil's trips to Poland and Japan, Insiders reporting that "talks" have happened between both companies, etc.....) etc.......where everyone was naysaying that "it would never happen, MS would never spend that much money, they're too big" yea..........throw all of that shit out the window.

Microsoft could buy Sega.

Microsoft could buy CDProjekt Red.

The debate has been ended on whether or not Publishers are on the table for acquisition. (I mean, it already went out the window when Microsoft openly floated the $4 billion WB acquisition)

The debate has also been ended on using the SIZE of a potential acquisition (both financial size, and actual studio size) as the basis for whether or not an acquisition will happen or not.

This officially proves that there is nothing that is "off the table" when it comes to Microsoft.

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#2 Sagemode87
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Stings, doesn't it. Sorry.

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I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

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@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

RARE is what is what it is because that is the path they want to take. Besides, RARE is grossly overstated as a developer.

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#5  Edited By Pedro
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@Sagemode87 said:

Stings, doesn't it. Sorry.

Seems like that Bethesda acquisition is stinging you more. 😎

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#6 hardwenzen
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

RARE is what is what it is because that is the path they want to take. Besides, RARE is grossly overstated as a developer.

Maybe that's the case. I am watching Obsidian, if they find themselves in the same hole RARE is in, MS is clearly the reason.

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@Sagemode87 said:

Stings, doesn't it. Sorry.

Lol, the Playstation brand is so strong it's going to take a lot to knock it down.

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#8  Edited By hardwenzen
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@Sagemode87 said:

Stings, doesn't it. Sorry.

"now that all the cards are on the table" lol Bethesda isn't there. And if they've done something as insane as acquiring Bethesda, something tells me there's more "wtf" things incoming.

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@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

I want that to happen for no reason other than to hear Cows REEEEEEEEEE. 🤣

Not really, From Software is an amazing studio. And the Souls games are some of the only games I chase platinum trophies for. But Cows REEEEEEEEEEE-ing is a fun plus too 🤣

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@StrongDeadlift said:
@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

I want that to happen for no reason other than to hear Cows REEEEEEEEEE. 🤣

Not really, From Software is an amazing studio. And the Souls games are some of the only games I chase platinum trophies for. But Cows REEEEEEEEEEE-ing is a fun plus too 🤣

My main issue is the change of direction we might see. For example; there literally no way in hell MS won't force a difficulty slider in a Souls game owned by MS. Fromsoft's track record has been flawfless (yes, even DkS2. Worse than the others, but still superior to most rpg's) since 2009. I don't want A N Y T H I N G to change.

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All the more reason to a.) play on an open platform like PC and b.) play more independent games.

You can't buy a company unless it's for sale, and publicly-traded companies are more or less always for sale, while privately-owned companies are only on sale if they want to be.

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@Sagemode87 said:

Stings, doesn't it. Sorry.

All the cards weren't on the table though....they still aren't.

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@StrongDeadlift said:

Is that absolutely ANYTHING is on the table. There are no "rules" anymore. There is no conventional logic or wisdom we can use as precedent for what is practical and what is not.

Remember those rumors several months ago of MS buying Sega, or CDProjekt Red (that have actually been floating around for years, Phil's trips to Poland and Japan, Insiders reporting that "talks" have happened between both companies, etc.....) etc.......where everyone was naysaying that "it would never happen, MS would never spend that much money, they're too big" yea..........throw all of that shit out the window.

Microsoft could buy Sega.

Microsoft could buy CDProjekt Red.

The debate has been ended on whether or not Publishers are on the table for acquisition. (I mean, it already went out the window when Microsoft openly floated the $4 billion WB acquisition)

The debate has also been ended on using the SIZE of a potential acquisition (both financial size, and actual studio size) as the basis for whether or not an acquisition will happen or not.

This officially proves that there is nothing that is "off the table" when it comes to Microsoft.

Were there any rumors first of M$ buying Bethesda or was this sudden? If you hear a rumor, chances are that's all it is because I do not think these big companies will be announcing any big plans until it's all ready to go. If they planned to acquire anyone else, you'll probably never get wind of it until it was already done.

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

RARE is what is what it is because that is the path they want to take. Besides, RARE is grossly overstated as a developer.

Sure bud, Rare wanted to make avatars and Kinect Sports for years.

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#16  Edited By StrongDeadlift
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https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/klobrille-microsoft-is-preparing-investors-on-pote-33502911/

I told you all a month ago when Sony was running around to eveyone who would listen, throwing money around like crazy for timed exclusive deals, I told you that Sony was spooked. I told you that Sony was REACTING to something. I told you that Microsoft must have done something big behind the scenes that Sony knew about, and was reacting to.

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And still Xbox will have the worst library, like it has every gen since the original Xbox.

it'll also come last in sales, which I believe it also has done every single gen since the first Xbox.

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#18 StrongDeadlift
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

RARE is what is what it is because that is the path they want to take. Besides, RARE is grossly overstated as a developer.

Sure bud, Rare wanted to make avatars and Kinect Sports for years.

I rebutted this thoroughly 2 years ago

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ebil-microsoft-killed-rare-cuz-they-hate-gaemz-33431782/

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#19  Edited By BassMan
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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

RARE is what is what it is because that is the path they want to take. Besides, RARE is grossly overstated as a developer.

Rare was one of the best developers back in the day, but they went for shit once acquired by MS. They were put making Xbox Avatars, Kinect games, etc.. That is some of the worst mismanagement of talent I have ever seen. Hopefully MS has learned their lessons and don't **** up all these newly acquired studios. We don't need any more closures like what happened to Lionhead.

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#20  Edited By Ant_17
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My limit is if ms buys capcom or Banco, I'm done with gaming. No way I'm playing tekken and resident evil on an xbox controller.

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@Ant_17 said:

My limit is if ms buys capcom or Banco, I'm done with gaming. No way I'm playing tekken and president evil on an xbox controller.

Then don't. Play it on a Playstation controller.

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@StrongDeadlift said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

I swear if they buy fromsoft and transform it into RARE, i will quit gaming.

RARE is what is what it is because that is the path they want to take. Besides, RARE is grossly overstated as a developer.

Sure bud, Rare wanted to make avatars and Kinect Sports for years.

I rebutted this thoroughly 2 years ago

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/ebil-microsoft-killed-rare-cuz-they-hate-gaemz-33431782/

Rare made some of the best games in the industry before MS acquired them. This whole revisionist history from Xbots that Rare was never good is laughable.

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#23 Ant_17
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@eoten: they will become exclusives at some point.

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#24  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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This has obviously already begun, and whatever it started with will cause a frenzy of acquisitions, mergers, asset stripping etc.

Basically the race to the bottom is catching up to gaming. None of this is good news, if Sony starts buying devs and publishers as well, if Valve or Tencent joins the trend etc.

The only people cheering this on will be clueless fanboys in the end.

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@Ant_17 said:

@eoten: they will become exclusives at some point.

You can buy adapters to use PS controllers on Xbox and vice versa.

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@BassMan said:

Rare was one of the best developers back in the day, but they went for shit once acquired by MS. They were put making Xbox Avatars, Kinect games, etc.. That is some of the worst mismanagement of talent I have ever seen. Hopefully MS has learned their lessons and don't **** up all these newly acquired studios. We don't need any more closures like what happened to Lionhead.

😐😑 I accept your silliness.

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@StrongDeadlift: that’s all they know monopoly, in 10 years gaming will change

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#28  Edited By deactivated-60c3d23d2738e
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Xbros don't play fromsoft games. We can't play the same level a hundred times just to get a sack of jewels. We are the fps gods stemming from og Xbox. I love playing fps multiplayer games on ps, it's like duck hunt. Fps you can pick up, play for a sec, then go so what needs to be done in the day. We aren't basement dwelling saps asking mom for hot pockets while we are on our 150th hour playing the same game over and over and over. It is the definition of insanity.

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@sleepnsurf said:

Xbros don't play fromsoft games. We can't play the same level a hundred times just to get a sack of jewels. We are the fps gods stemming from og Xbox. I love playing fps multiplayer games on ps, it's like duck hunt. Fps you can pick up, play for a sec, then go so what needs to be done in the day. We aren't basement dwelling saps asking mom for hot pockets while we are on our 150th hour playing the same game over and over and over.

cringe

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2020 is something else.

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@X_CAPCOM_X: Back to Reddit with cringe kid.

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> FPS gods

- Plays on console

> Jokes on investing a lot of time into a game

- Actual skilled FPS players spend hundreds if not thousands of hrs on the same game

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@Pedro said:
@BassMan said:

Rare was one of the best developers back in the day, but they went for shit once acquired by MS. They were put making Xbox Avatars, Kinect games, etc.. That is some of the worst mismanagement of talent I have ever seen. Hopefully MS has learned their lessons and don't **** up all these newly acquired studios. We don't need any more closures like what happened to Lionhead.

😐😑 I accept your silliness.

Its not silly. Canning Perfect Dark 2, which they already had a lot of things built for, to then be in charge of creating avatar clothing is ridiculous. Its the kind quality troll threads i'd expect to see on reddit, but its the actual reality.