If we can be honest for just one moment: The Switch is poised to be another typical nintendo console

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#1 lifelessablaze
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- Huge droughts between big Nintendo titles
- Shovelware to fill the wait/void
- 2 generations behind current hardware

I'm not sure where the praise is coming from, but nothing relevant has been released on this thing since October. Now you may laugh at the Xbone, but at least it has the most popular AAA games on it. The Switch has nothing going for it, in typical Nintendo fashion, when it comes to 3rd party. Well okay, actually I'm wrong, you can play with boxes until the next Zelda.

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Yeah. I knew this buying it.

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You was blaming MS for how poor this gen is the other day.

Do you actually enjoy gaming?

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#5 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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What, this Nintendo console is going to be a Nintendo console? No way!

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#6 Litchie
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Yeah, pretty much. With some more 3rd party support thanks to indie developers. I'm really happy with the Switch so far personally.

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#7  Edited By knight-k
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Agree, not worth the money right now imo.

Zelda and mario aren't enough.

Also I don't like the build of the console, it feels too cheap. Will wait for a redesign a la DS lite.

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TC, you need to inform yourself what Shovelware is and how it is different to some of the best Indies out there.

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#9 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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So let me get this straight.

Nintendo has a quiet 6-12 months and you kick up a fuss.

Didn't it take like 18 months for PS4 to get its first big game (Bloodborne)? oh great, you get to play inferior multiplats amazing whoopdey do.

Meanwhile back in rational land, we have a console that can play most console games, and will have the handheld/touch market.

The switch came out of nowhere, developers wern't ready for it. realistically there was going to be a 2nd year drought.

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I agree. I like the Switch but underneath all the hype and blind fanboyism it's really not that great. I haven't touched mine in weeks. The third party support is lackluster (b-but muh Doom and Skyrim amirite?) I don't care about 99% of indie games, Mario and Zelda aren't enough to keep me going, the hardware is laughably outdated (and they wonder why there's no third party support) the online is just... yeah, the games and controllers are expensive and the fact that it has 32gb storage (25.9ish usable) in 2017/2018 where most games are 50+gb is ridiculous

but hey smash is pretty hype so we got that at least

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They should of released Mario now to keep momentum going....

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It's good if you're 9 years old

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#13 SecretPolice
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"If we can be honest for just one moment: The Switch is poised to be another typical nintendo Handheld"

Fixed that for ya, c'mon, this is tiresome, get it right the first time. :P

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Best console purchase I've made in years. One of the best I've made ever I'd say

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#15  Edited By rafaelmsoares
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But... But... You can play a worse version of 5 years old games on it, it has 3rd party support!

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Going in, I knew I'd only play two games when the Switch was released - Zelda and Mario and I was ok with that. The thing that baffles me is the continued non-info on the VC. That was mainly the reason I got a Switch. I knew eventually, I wouldn't have anything to play so the VC would have been ok....yea.

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#17 DaVillain  Moderator
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At this point, if you know what Nintendo does best, you really shouldn't be complaining about there console method. You buy for there exclusive games and wait a few more months for the exclusive and turn on the console again. Yep, that's the Nintendo way :)

@knight-k said:

Agree, not worth the money right now imo.

Zelda and mario aren't enough.

Also I don't like the build of the console, it feels too cheap. Will wait for a redesign a la DS lite.

Giving the fact there was never a redesign Wii U, I doubt we'll ever see a redesign Switch at all. The Switch is as small for a hybrid as they come really.

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#18 Clefdefa
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So far I like the Switch. Lately I've been disappointed with the PS4 so I bought the Switch to spark some new ... While I played a ton of games on the PS4, they pretty much all left me unsatisfied outside of 3 games ...

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#19  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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Doom, LA Noire, Skyrim, Southpark, Crash Trilogy, Dark Souls Re, the third party support is already unprecedented for a Nintendo console.

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#20 BenjaminBanklin
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Well, yeah. The only lesson they learned from the Wii U is they should have made it a handheld and killed the 3DS.

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@xantufrog said:

Best console purchase I've made in years. One of the best I've made ever I'd say

Same. It changes the way I game, and I honestly can't go back. It's a game changer. I've owned/own pretty much every system ever made.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Doom, LA Noire, Skyrim, Southpark, Crash Trilogy, Dark Souls Re, the third party support is already unprecedented for a Nintendo console.

"Buh buh it can't play Assassins cred #123123 or shooter #123123123213"!

Gotta love the console crowd "Lol if you like inferior versions then go switch" ... peasants have been doing this from day 1. If "Inferior version/port" is a bad thing, and your playing on console, your a massive hypocrit.

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@n64dd said:
@xantufrog said:

Best console purchase I've made in years. One of the best I've made ever I'd say

Same. It changes the way I game, and I honestly can't go back. It's a game changer. I've owned/own pretty much every system ever made.

My gf hates now when I play consoles that take up the TV because she's used to me playing on the Switch. She's begging me to go back to my Switch games.

If only MGSurvive had released on Switch. Le sigh.

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Good thing it's not my primary gaming device, I mainly just use it as a handheld. And when I do play it, I enjoy it. Heaven forbid it should fail to supplant anyone's need for an XB1, PS4, or monster PC gaming rig.

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#26 Bread_or_Decide
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@lamprey263 said:

Good thing it's not my primary gaming device, I mainly just use it as a handheld. And when I do play it, I enjoy it. Heaven forbid it should fail to supplant anyone's need for an XB1, PS4, or monster PC gaming rig.

One purchase should do all things. That's the rule. God forbid one thing not be all the thing.

Meanwhile, most of us, in secret, when no one is looking....will game on at least one other device. GASP!

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@jpls2003 said:

I agree. I like the Switch but underneath all the hype and blind fanboyism it's really not that great. I haven't touched mine in weeks. The third party support is lackluster (b-but muh Doom and Skyrim amirite?) I don't care about 99% of indie games, Mario and Zelda aren't enough to keep me going, the hardware is laughably outdated (and they wonder why there's no third party support) the online is just... yeah, the games and controllers are expensive and the fact that it has 32gb storage (25.9ish usable) in 2017/2018 where most games are 50+gb is ridiculous

but hey smash is pretty hype so we got that at least

Then why would you buy it in its first year? Anyone who buys a console in its first year and complains about droughts deserves to get tricked over and over again because they're fools. I'm literally 21, and I know not to buy a console that early. Hell, I figured it out in high school. I hope you're 16 or under, because if not, then you're a fool.

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#28 Xabiss
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@lifelessablaze said:

- Huge droughts between big Nintendo titles

- Shovelware to fill the wait/void

- 2 generations behind current hardware

I'm not sure where the praise is coming from, but nothing relevant has been released on this thing since October. Now you may laugh at the Xbone, but at least it has the most popular AAA games on it. The Switch has nothing going for it, in typical Nintendo fashion, when it comes to 3rd party. Well okay, actually I'm wrong, you can play with boxes until the next Zelda.

The answer to this is easy..... WRONG! They have plenty of games still coming out this year and the Switch is doing fine.

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#29  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@luxuryheart said:
@jpls2003 said:

I agree. I like the Switch but underneath all the hype and blind fanboyism it's really not that great. I haven't touched mine in weeks. The third party support is lackluster (b-but muh Doom and Skyrim amirite?) I don't care about 99% of indie games, Mario and Zelda aren't enough to keep me going, the hardware is laughably outdated (and they wonder why there's no third party support) the online is just... yeah, the games and controllers are expensive and the fact that it has 32gb storage (25.9ish usable) in 2017/2018 where most games are 50+gb is ridiculous

but hey smash is pretty hype so we got that at least

Then why would you buy it in its first year? Anyone who buys a console in its first year and complains about droughts deserves to get tricked over and over again because they're fools. I'm literally 21, and I know not to buy a console that early. Hell, I figured it out in high school. I hope you're 16 or under, because if not, then you're a fool.

Yep. When I buy day one, I know I'm prepared to wait. There are other perks to being a day one buyer and it's not having a hundred games to play within the first year. That said, Switch has had the best day one.

The other complaints are strange, controllers and games are always expensive. Extra storage is NOT expensive because they let you use third-party storage. (A Brilliant move, they saw how that killed the Vita.)

The rest of his complaints are idiotic, why even buy a Switch then if mario and zelda don't tickle your pickle? Did he expect Far Cry 5 on the thing? We're slowly seeing two trends 1)Third parties playing catch up and 2)third parties aiming for day n date release on switch along with other consoles.

Soon both will line up and every game will need a Switch version. Because their dirty little secret is that every game can be downgraded and still work, and graphics aren't that much of an upgrade from last gen once you remove all the little bells and whistles that distract gamers.

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I always get a kick when people start off by saying, “If we can be honest....” lol. Anyway I can’t really say that I agree with any of that. I’m not really seeing either this huge drought of games nor am I seeing all of this alleged shovelware. Not really sure about this whole two generations behind thing either. Sure the Switch isn’t as straight up powerful as the Xbox One or PS4 but I don’t think I’d say that it’s two generations behind. Personally I’m very happy with the Switch, there’s currently a pretty good number of games that I want to get for it still and the ones that are scheduled to come out for it in the next year or so look to be quite good and nicely spread out. Third party support is already much better for it and will only continue to pick up as the Switch continues to sell very well.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@n64dd said:
@xantufrog said:

Best console purchase I've made in years. One of the best I've made ever I'd say

Same. It changes the way I game, and I honestly can't go back. It's a game changer. I've owned/own pretty much every system ever made.

My gf hates now when I play consoles that take up the TV because she's used to me playing on the Switch. She's begging me to go back to my Switch games.

If only MGSurvive had released on Switch. Le sigh.

The Switch sickness. You want everything on the switch now.

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What drought though...?
Have barely put the thing down since release.

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#33  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@n64dd said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@n64dd said:
@xantufrog said:

Best console purchase I've made in years. One of the best I've made ever I'd say

Same. It changes the way I game, and I honestly can't go back. It's a game changer. I've owned/own pretty much every system ever made.

My gf hates now when I play consoles that take up the TV because she's used to me playing on the Switch. She's begging me to go back to my Switch games.

If only MGSurvive had released on Switch. Le sigh.

The Switch sickness. You want everything on the switch now.

I'm willing to bet 90% of these games can play on Switch. Who cares if you can't see the butt crack on everyone's ass. There's no reason Persona 5 can't be on the Switch. Hell, MGSV was on PS3, so was GTAV. Most games this gen don't look any better or worse than those two games.

I can't wait for south park on Switch. These games off the TV, never gets old.

Fary Cry 5...switch that shiz!

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@luxuryheart said:
@jpls2003 said:

I agree. I like the Switch but underneath all the hype and blind fanboyism it's really not that great. I haven't touched mine in weeks. The third party support is lackluster (b-but muh Doom and Skyrim amirite?) I don't care about 99% of indie games, Mario and Zelda aren't enough to keep me going, the hardware is laughably outdated (and they wonder why there's no third party support) the online is just... yeah, the games and controllers are expensive and the fact that it has 32gb storage (25.9ish usable) in 2017/2018 where most games are 50+gb is ridiculous

but hey smash is pretty hype so we got that at least

Then why would you buy it in its first year? Anyone who buys a console in its first year and complains about droughts deserves to get tricked over and over again because they're fools. I'm literally 21, and I know not to buy a console that early. Hell, I figured it out in high school. I hope you're 16 or under, because if not, then you're a fool.

Yep. When I buy day one, I know I'm prepared to wait. There are other perks to being a day one buyer and it's not having a hundred games to play within the first year. That said, Switch has had the best day one.

The other complaints are strange, controllers and games are always expensive. Extra storage is NOT expensive because they let you use third-party storage. (A Brilliant move, they saw how that killed the Vita.)

The rest of his complaints are idiotic, why even buy a Switch then if mario and zelda don't tickle your pickle? Did he expect Far Cry 5 on the thing? We're slowly seeing two trends 1)Third parties playing catch up and 2)third parties aiming for day n date release on switch along with other consoles.

Soon both will line up and every game will need a Switch version. Because their dirty little secret is that every game can be downgraded and still work, and graphics aren't that much of an upgrade from last gen once you remove all the little bells and whistles that distract gamers.

Ok, maybe I am an idiot for buying during its release month, I'll agree.

It had a pretty crap day one. Zelda was the only good game.

I know controllers are expensive, but 80 quid for two joycons is stupid. If they didn't have the useless HD rumble and infrared gimmicks they'd be cheaper and I wouldn't be complaining.

I have an SD card, and I don't mind buying them, but still, my point stands. 32GB built in is damn ridiculous. You're pretty much asking your consumers to go out and spend extra cash just so they can play games that don't fit on the damn console.

Mario and Zelda did indeed tickle my pickle, my nickle. Problem is, two games I'm interested in one year later isn't enough.

Well, I didn't expect Far Cry 5, but that'd be rather nice, actually.

I applaud devs that release on Switch on day one with the other systems, but the catchup is stupid. Nobody wants to pay 60 quid for Skyrim or Doom a few months/years after release, no matter how good the game is or how much content is in the game.

There's nothing necessarily wrong with downgraded versions, and it's not much of a turnoff for me, but if I was given the option to play a game at 720p30fps or 1080p60fps on another system I think I know which one I'd pick, and for the general public a system that plays shittier versions of games that perform better on other systems is a bit of a turnoff. (but hey, consoles still sell amirite /s)

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#35 freedomfreak
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@davillain- said:

Giving the fact there was never a redesign Wii U, I doubt we'll ever see a redesign Switch at all. The Switch is as small for a hybrid as they come really.

The Switch is the WiiU's redesign.

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What platform has had ever had a more solid list of games after being on the market for just one year?

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#37 so_hai
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Which of the consoles from Nintendo are you classing as typical - they almost have nothing in common with one another?

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It has some of the best titles this generation after a year on the market. Maybe wait until we actually see some of your speculation come true.

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#39  Edited By DkMarcusDk
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@themajormayor: oh cmon 9 year olds aint gonna play wolfenstien or doom. And definitely not finish The puzzles in Zelda BOTW.

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The main reason more games aren't on Switch (and wont' be on Switch) is storage, and costs associated with storage. Switch games have to be kept small. Games that can be ported in the 10GB-15GB range are fine. Anything that is 30GB is a gamble. Games that are over 50GB you might as well forget about coming to Switch.

Switch has very limited internal memory, adding a small amount of memory is cheap. Adding 1TB of memory is expensive (or basically impossible if you want to expand using SD memory, if you want 512GB congrats your memory card cost almost as much as the Switch itself). Some of these games are 50GB or more, so it is completely cost prohibitive for them to use a 64GB catridge. So what's a gamer to do?

Hell, the excuse for Wii-U was that you could use an external HDD. I remember some deranged Wii-U apologist calling me "cheap" because I said it was stupid to have to buy an external HDD separately just to fit games on your console. Now with Switch you don't even have that option!

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#41  Edited By AzatiS
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Give sheep the usual titles and they dont care about anything else. You remember few years back the epic praise of Wii U and its "amazing games" ? The "best console ever " ? The " PS4 has no games" ? Oh, i remember the sheep all over the place ! Someone was telling em back then to chill out because we had more years to come but they were laughing and dissing on him big time. Who that was ?! Wait, was it Azatis again ?!! lolol. Fun times