If we just had PS4 this generation wouldn't we have been fine?

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#1 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Without ps4 xbox one was gonna do charging for used games and all this other crap and like ps4 had none of that.

I think if ps4 was alone this gen I think we would have been perfectly fine maybe gotten more games and more just good stuff. Xbox is like holding gaming back and they said like if you don't like the xbox one get a 360 that was their president ffs. I mean you can't say that stuff if your a president you have to be upping your game and saying everyone should buy the new product not some old piece of junk.

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#2 Fedor  Online
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No, monopolies are always bad for consumers.

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#3 DaVillain  Moderator
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Then Sony will be like Nvidia, lack of competition. PS4 base and upgrade to PS4 Pro, Sony could have got away with $800 Pro if that was the case.

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#4 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@fedor said:

No, monopolies are always bad for consumers.

but a sony monopoly might be like one of those good ones where they just are trying so hard to please everyone and bring peace to gaming I wouldn't minded seeing that monopoly be peaceful and very humble

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#5 Fedor  Online
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@ProtossRushX: Of course you wouldn't mind, Sony could be the most corrupt company in existence and you'd still support them. Monopolies are bad, end of.

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#6 lundy86_4
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Your lack of general knowledge should disallow you from making threads. The threads largely shit, and you proposing a literal market monopoly does nothing to dissuade that judgement.

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#7  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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Your obsession with xbox is fascinating, but it doesn't make require multiple crappy threads.

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#8  Edited By JasonOfA36
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Seriously? Fucking seriously? Talk about blind fanboys.

And they call Nintendo fans Sheeps.

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#9 DaVillain  Moderator
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@lundy86_4 said:

Your lack of general knowledge should disallow you from making threads. The threads largely shit, and you proposing a literal market monopoly does nothing to dissuade that judgement.

Would you rather we go back to 500 post thread rules?

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@davillain-: Nah... It wouldn't preclude people like TC. Realistically, i'd like users to utilize that filter between the brain and the mouth, but it may be too much for some lol.

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#11 ahmedkhan1994
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Yeah if you want Sony to be justified in charging $600+ for a console again....

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

Your obsession with xbox is fascinating, but it doesn't make multiple crappy threads.

If only you could say that to the rest of the Cows here lol.

@lundy86_4 said:

@davillain-: Nah... It wouldn't preclude people like TC. Realistically, i'd like users to utilize that filter between the brain and the mouth, but it may be too much for some lol.

Good point. TBH, I do enjoy Protoss Xbox One love stories lol.

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@lundy86_4 said:

@davillain-: Nah... It wouldn't preclude people like TC. Realistically, i'd like users to utilize that filter between the brain and the mouth, but it may be too much for some lol.

Hell yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#14 robert_sparkes
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For me no as ive enjoyed halo5 and gears 4 and put endlessly hours into them. The PS4 doesn't have that great shooter to satisfy me. All comes down to preference.

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@davillain- said:
@lundy86_4 said:

@davillain-: Nah... It wouldn't preclude people like TC. Realistically, i'd like users to utilize that filter between the brain and the mouth, but it may be too much for some lol.

Good point. TBH, I do enjoy Protoss Xbox One love stories lol.

Protoss can definitely be entertaining, but when we border literal "Dumbest Shit This Year" as a thread, we may need to step back.

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Ps1/Ps2 days were great, the peak of gaming I would say. But we need a check & balance, Sony got overconfident from those era and released ps3. Great console with great promise but man, the price at launch was hurting me.

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#19 Archangel3371  Online
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No because they would have monopolized the market and who knows what they would have done then.

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#20 lundy86_4
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So, what's the bet? TC responds once, twice, or thrice in this thread.

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#21 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@sakaixx said:

Ps1/Ps2 days were great, the peak of gaming I would say. But we need a check & balance, Sony got overconfident from those era and released ps3. Great console with great promise but man, the price at launch was hurting me.

yeah maybe your right they got a bit cocky during ps3 launch they told people to work 2 jobs an stuff and it was just absurd

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#22 FinalFighters
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God No.

One Corporation leading a industry is never a good thing.

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#23 AcidTango
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No. I will bet you that if the PS4 was the only console this gen, Sony would of made it more expensive and never lower the price of the system. And it would probably be the same for their games and online service as well.

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#24 Vaidream45
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Nope. Monopoly is bad.

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#25  Edited By AJStyles
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The gaming industry is at its best when Sony is in a dominating lead. A Sony monopoly is a good thing.

You guys are crazy if you actually think it would be a bad thing having ALL the games on 1 console.

A monopoly would only be a bad thing when you have a bad company running it like Nintendo or Microsoft.

That’s when it would be bad. Microsoft wanted to ruin gaming with the xbone. Nintendo is just terrible at hardware.

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Read the first sentence, and was about to punch out a debatable reply about how MS's used games system was going to work, and how it might not be all that bad considering gaming has largely went digital anyway.

Then I read the rest of that drivel, and thought better of it.

OP must have amazing drugs, or was dropped as a baby.

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#27  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@ajstyles: the fact that you don't think Sony would squeeze you like a lemon if given the chance is sad. Want to know why MS has such a skeezy reputation? Because they've enjoyed an unprecedented level of market dominance outside of gaming for decades. They've had to be reined in by antitrust laws. Now give that power to some other greedy faceless corporation in, say, the video game market. Sony doesn't know you,they don't like you,they don't want to spend money on you. They just want you to spend money on them. And if they have no competition they can get that done with the bare minimum.

The PS4 dominated this generation because Sony had someone else to outdo. Who knows what they'd shovel at us if there wasn't a bar to pass

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@ajstyles said:

The gaming industry is at its best when Sony is in a dominating lead. A Sony monopoly is a good thing.

You guys are crazy if you actually think it would be a bad thing having ALL the games on 1 console.

A monopoly would only be a bad thing when you have a bad company running it like Nintendo or Microsoft.

That’s when it would be bad. Microsoft wanted to ruin gaming with the xbone. Nintendo is just terrible at hardware.

If Sony's not paying you, you're stupid.

Not trying to sling personal insults here bud, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and posts like a duck well... Ya know.

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#29 BlueIon
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I have to agree with all the people that said a Monopoly would be bad. I just can’t see how no competition would benefit anyone...any company would just take advantage of that if they got the chance, and leave the gamer worse off IMO.

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@ProtossRushX said:

Without ps4 xbox one was gonna do charging for used games and all this other crap and like ps4 had none of that.

I think if ps4 was alone this gen I think we would have been perfectly fine maybe gotten more games and more just good stuff. Xbox is like holding gaming back and they said like if you don't like the xbox one get a 360 that was their president ffs. I mean you can't say that stuff if your a president you have to be upping your game and saying everyone should buy the new product not some old piece of junk.

I disagree with this completely. If there wasn't competition for Sony, I do not think you would have had these exclusives that you have had.

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#31 Ibacai
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It would be foolish to think Sony would have been as good without any competition. That is the number one reason we get so many amazing experiences....competition.

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#32 pyro1245
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Damn that is some terrible writing in the OP. Did you even read it to make sure it wasn't garbled nonsense? Ugh.

Anyway.....

I wouldn't want Sony to be in charge unless they adopt consumer-friendly ideas like Game Pass and Play Anywhere on Xbox. You cows prattle on about exclusives and that's fine, but Sony's platform is archaic. The reason it sells is first and foremost because it's cheap.

No, on the contrary, maybe Sony will improve to keep up with their competition. We can only hope.

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@ajstyles said:

The gaming industry is at its best when Sony is in a dominating lead. A Sony monopoly is a good thing.

You guys are crazy if you actually think it would be a bad thing having ALL the games on 1 console.

A monopoly would only be a bad thing when you have a bad company running it like Nintendo or Microsoft.

That’s when it would be bad. Microsoft wanted to ruin gaming with the xbone. Nintendo is just terrible at hardware.

And yet the NES and SNES minis make the PS Classic look like a pos. DS and 3DS dominated the PSP and PS Vita. Meanwhile, the Switch provides AAA gaming on the go at only 12W compared to the power hungry, roach fuelled jet engine PS4.

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@babyjoker1221 said:
@ajstyles said:

The gaming industry is at its best when Sony is in a dominating lead. A Sony monopoly is a good thing.

You guys are crazy if you actually think it would be a bad thing having ALL the games on 1 console.

A monopoly would only be a bad thing when you have a bad company running it like Nintendo or Microsoft.

That’s when it would be bad. Microsoft wanted to ruin gaming with the xbone. Nintendo is just terrible at hardware.

If Sony's not paying you, you're stupid.

Not trying to sling personal insults here bud, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and posts like a duck well... Ya know.

Are you trying to say its quacknight lol.

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@i_p_daily said:
@babyjoker1221 said:
@ajstyles said:

The gaming industry is at its best when Sony is in a dominating lead. A Sony monopoly is a good thing.

You guys are crazy if you actually think it would be a bad thing having ALL the games on 1 console.

A monopoly would only be a bad thing when you have a bad company running it like Nintendo or Microsoft.

That’s when it would be bad. Microsoft wanted to ruin gaming with the xbone. Nintendo is just terrible at hardware.

If Sony's not paying you, you're stupid.

Not trying to sling personal insults here bud, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and posts like a duck well... Ya know.

Are you trying to say its quacknight lol.

LOL you never know.

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@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:
@babyjoker1221 said:
@ajstyles said:

The gaming industry is at its best when Sony is in a dominating lead. A Sony monopoly is a good thing.

You guys are crazy if you actually think it would be a bad thing having ALL the games on 1 console.

A monopoly would only be a bad thing when you have a bad company running it like Nintendo or Microsoft.

That’s when it would be bad. Microsoft wanted to ruin gaming with the xbone. Nintendo is just terrible at hardware.

If Sony's not paying you, you're stupid.

Not trying to sling personal insults here bud, but if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and posts like a duck well... Ya know.

Are you trying to say its quacknight lol.

LOL you never know.

Its not him, I was just making a joke, this AJ is a cow alt just not quackers lol.

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lol such a delusional cow.

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#38 sealionact
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Just curious....who is "The president" of Xbox?

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#39 remiks00
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I see cows haven't changed one bit. Moo on. #thankyousony

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#41  Edited By Kali-B1rd
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Would of been fine without it too.

3rd place system with only 2 good games.

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#42  Edited By Sevenizz
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No Forza, Halo, Cuphead, Gears, or Ori? Are you mad? Nothing interests me on the ps4, the Switch has one game I’d buy and I wouldn’t buy a console for just one game. I’d probably just play WoW on pc and ignore console gaming altogether.

I wouldn’t own a console if ps4 was the only option.

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@ProtossRushX: Man, cows are so lucky to have such an intelligent piece of mind as representative for Sony fans.

Keep up the good work.

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Warning...

Explosive cow manure. lol :P

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So only four short lived games a year split between niches? No.

Competition should be between game developers, not systems, but when you are trying to trap simple minded people into one ecosystem you need to force exclusivity to bait them.

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#46 svaubel
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If we only had PS4 this gen? I would have been PC-only gamer. I can still count how many PS4 games I have on one hand even after all these years, compared to over 30 games each for the Switch and Xbone.

Competition is good. Monopolies are bad, duh.

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#47 pmanden
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Xbox owners disagree with you. And there are millions and millions of them.

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#48 henrythefifth
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There would be no xbox games? Well, there arent any xbox games, so things would be pretty much the same!

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#49 rrjim1
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@henrythefifth said:

There would be no xbox games? Well, there arent any xbox games, so things would be pretty much the same!

So it looks like your blind in one eye and can't see out of the other!

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#50  Edited By mrbojangles25
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The question you should ask yourself, immediately following the one posed by the thread, is this: would PS4 even be half as good as it is now if it was the only thing on the market? If it had no competition.

No, of course it wouldn't be nearly as good. WTF kind of thread is this?

@henrythefifth said:

There would be no xbox games? Well, there arent any xbox games, so things would be pretty much the same!

Ooohoooooo snap!!!!

@PinchySkree said:

So only four short lived games a year split between niches? No.

Competition should be between game developers, not systems, but when you are trying to trap simple minded people into one ecosystem you need to force exclusivity to bait them.

QFT man, should be between devs not systems. Let the developers and publishers choose exclusivity. Hell if it was up to me I'd make it illegal to incentivize developers to go to one system or the other; that's not honest competition, that's paying for an advantage, aka cheating.