If you buy a game on Xbox 360 or PC, you support Microsoft either way.

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#1 bphan
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Man I can't believe no one thought of this angle before. Microsoft is a genius. They pretty much own 95% of the OS market. Gaming on PC is an advantage that is spouted daily against Microsoft's competitors like Apple and Linux. Do you think Microsoft cares that games are going to PC as well. They are rooting for it. They're pretty much the leaders of the newly formed PC Gaming Alliance. If you buy a game on 360: you directly support Microsoft. If you buy it for PC: you indirectly support them. Either way Microsoft wins. Bwhahahahaah. Genius.
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I think that about sums it up.

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Man I can't believe no one thought of this angle before. Microsoft is a genius. They pretty much own 95% of the OS market. Gaming on PC is an advantage that is spouted daily against Microsoft's competitors like Apple and Linux. Do you think Microsoft cares that games are going to PC as well. They are rooting for it. They're pretty much the leaders of the newly formed PC Gaming Alliance. If you buy a game on 360: you directly support Microsoft. If you buy it for PC: you indirectly support them. Either way Microsoft wins. Bwhahahahaah. Genius. bphan

Well of course you are since you'll need a copy of Windows to play a PC game or an Xbox console to play a 360 game. However unless the PC game you bought was made by Microsoft's own game studio they don't see any of the profits. They only make profits on 360 games and PC game that only they make.

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#4 Hewkii
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you help microsoft by gaming on a PC literally as much as if you buy a computer for surfing the web.
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#5 bphan
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you help microsoft by gaming on a PC literally as much as if you buy a computer for surfing the web.Hewkii

Not true. I don't think you understand where I'm getting at. An argument I use against people considering an Apple computer or Linux OS is Gaming on a PC, and since Microsoft Windows is pretty much synonymous with PC gaming. This is an extremely important benefit to Microsoft in general. You can surf the web on any computer regardless of OS so its not benefitting Microsoft as much as PC gaming is.

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#6 deactivated-587acdd100f19
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I support Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony and so should all gamers. If there were only one or two gaming companies prices for everything would probably sky rocket.
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Man I can't believe no one thought of this angle before. bphan

You're not by a long shot. This argument has been de-bunked a thousand times, let it die.

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#8 Hewkii
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Not true. I don't think you understand where I'm getting at. An argument I use against people considering an Apple computer or Linux OS is Gaming on a PC, and since Microsoft Windows is pretty much synonymous with PC gaming. This is an extremely important benefit to Microsoft in general. You can surf the web on any computer regardless of OS so its not benefitting Microsoft as much as PC gaming is.

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walk into a store, ask a clerk for a computer that you can surf the web with. guess what they're going to say?

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#9 AdrianWerner
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Not really. Whether you buy a PCgame or not makes no diffrence to Microsoft. They aren't getting money from it either way. Of course most games use Windows, but everyone has it anyway and it doesn't matter for MS if Windows user does buy games or not
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#10 RazMaTaz-1
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lets face it, theres more piraters out there then legit game buyers for PC, so either way, they lose out.
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EVen though lots of people will claim they dont use windows...ie...Linex,apple ext....most "i would say"98% of the pc world uses Windows. So yes, everyone supports MS in some way.
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I think majority of the people who have windows received it from piracy. The games they play on it has nothing to do with MS. It's like saying buying games for your PS3 is helping Nvidia...

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EVen though lots of people will claim they dont use windows...ie...Linex,apple ext....most "i would say"98% of the pc world uses Windows. So yes, everyone supports MS in some way.FunkyHeadHunter

No royalty, no transaction, nothing goes to M$ when I'm gaming on my PC. The OS is just a product for me to play my games.

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lets face it, theres more piraters out there then legit game buyers for PC, so either way, they lose out.RazMaTaz-1
Oh really? Prove it.
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#15 bphan
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I think majority of the people who have windows received it from piracy. The games they play on it has nothing to do with MS. It's like saying buying games for your PS3 is helping Nvidia...

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It is actually in a way, but I won't explain it to you. When you're older you'll understand.

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#16 f50p90
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Unless microsoft is your daddy I don't see why anyone would care
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#17 deactivated-59d151f079814
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No... Microsoft doesn't get any money from PC games.. ONly the ones that tailor to the windows live function which are very few. PC is a open platform (one of the reasons why its so good), meaning it does not have to pay microsoft loyalities.
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#18 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I think majority of the people who have windows received it from piracy. The games they play on it has nothing to do with MS. It's like saying buying games for your PS3 is helping Nvidia...

Cute_Red_Panda

I find that highly doubtful........

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You can own a BMW M5, that doesn't mean you should support the crappy dealership you bought it from.
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[QUOTE="FunkyHeadHunter"]EVen though lots of people will claim they dont use windows...ie...Linex,apple ext....most "i would say"98% of the pc world uses Windows. So yes, everyone supports MS in some way.Cute_Red_Panda

No royalty, no transaction, nothing goes to M$ when I'm gaming on my PC. The OS is just a product for me to play my games.

yeah there is some money going to MS cuz they had to buy the pc with the os on it to make the game

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I don't play many PC games, but when I do I play under wine. All my personal boxes/laptops run Linux (Debian based mainley), But I do have to use Windows at work. The last time I actually contributed to MS was when I didn't have a choice, I had to buy a laptop with Vista pre-installed, but I did wipe it off right away.

MS wont be on top forever, Open Source and Apple are gaining ground on MS at a very fast rate, and soon MS will have to fight for survival.

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#22 bphan
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I don't play many PC games, but when I do I play under wine. All my personal boxes/laptops run Linux (Debian based mainley), But I do have to use Windows at work. The last time I actually contributed to MS was when I didn't have a choice, I had to buy a laptop with Vista pre-installed, but I did wipe it off right away.

MS wont be on top forever, Open Source and Apple are gaining ground on MS at a very fast rate, and soon MS will have to fight for survival.

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Gaining ground? bwhahahahah....ridiculous.

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[QUOTE="GTASA_Cartel"]

I don't play many PC games, but when I do I play under wine. All my personal boxes/laptops run Linux (Debian based mainley), But I do have to use Windows at work. The last time I actually contributed to MS was when I didn't have a choice, I had to buy a laptop with Vista pre-installed, but I did wipe it off right away.

MS wont be on top forever, Open Source and Apple are gaining ground on MS at a very fast rate, and soon MS will have to fight for survival.

bphan

Gaining ground? bwhahahahah....ridiculous.

As a PC gamer, he is pretty correct.. Though Microsoft still holds the monopoly for being the pc gamers platform.. Unfortantely they were doing fine intill they released the dog crap that is called Vista..

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MS only sees the money from the OS though and if it's OEM I believe they take a hit on it. I have a bunch of PC games, only a few were published by MGS.
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[QUOTE="bphan"][QUOTE="GTASA_Cartel"]

I don't play many PC games, but when I do I play under wine. All my personal boxes/laptops run Linux (Debian based mainley), But I do have to use Windows at work. The last time I actually contributed to MS was when I didn't have a choice, I had to buy a laptop with Vista pre-installed, but I did wipe it off right away.

MS wont be on top forever, Open Source and Apple are gaining ground on MS at a very fast rate, and soon MS will have to fight for survival.

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Gaining ground? bwhahahahah....ridiculous.

As a PC gamer, he is pretty correct.. Though Microsoft still holds the monopoly for being the pc gamers platform.. Unfortantely they were doing fine intill they released the dog crap that is called Vista..


Yeah, I'm getting pretty tired of Vista. Only OS I ever used where security updates made it run slower.
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How does microsoft profit if I install Ut2004 on my linux box? I don't get it.
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#28 lawlessx
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does microsoft get part of the profits if the game is being brought for the PC?
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Man I can't believe no one thought of this angle before. Microsoft is a genius. They pretty much own 95% of the OS market. Gaming on PC is an advantage that is spouted daily against Microsoft's competitors like Apple and Linux. Do you think Microsoft cares that games are going to PC as well. They are rooting for it. They're pretty much the leaders of the newly formed PC Gaming Alliance. If you buy a game on 360: you directly support Microsoft. If you buy it for PC: you indirectly support them. Either way Microsoft wins. Bwhahahahaah. Genius. bphan

Hm?? It's headed by intel, btw microsoft doesn't make any money off of any games unless they publish.

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#30 jangojay
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does microsoft get part of the profits if the game is being brought for the PC?lawlessx

No, unless they publish it.

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#31 Tiefster
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does microsoft get part of the profits if the game is being brought for the PC?lawlessx

I don't think so. I could be wrong though since I know MS is making other software like drivers pay a pretty hefty fee ($300+ to be an approved driver I think for 1 year). Even though Windows is pretty closed there's nothing stopping me from making my own game and having it available for download for free.
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#32 rimnet00
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They own 95% of the OS market that plays PC games. Not 95% of the PC market. Anyways, aside from that, ya... they are primarily a software company that stretched passed supporting PC gaming, to launching thier own console. Not much more to it then that, aside from them taking something that works on the PC, and trying to put it into a cheaper box. That's why the XBox is essentially a cheap PC that is locked down.
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wasnt this obvious
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Way to try and ride on the PC's coat tails ya hobos.

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#35 bphan
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Way to try and ride on the PC's coat tails ya hobos.

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wasnt this obviousNSR34GTR

Some people are still having a hard time understanding so I guess not.

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Man I can't believe no one thought of this angle before. Microsoft is a genius. They pretty much own 95% of the OS market. Gaming on PC is an advantage that is spouted daily against Microsoft's competitors like Apple and Linux. Do you think Microsoft cares that games are going to PC as well. They are rooting for it. They're pretty much the leaders of the newly formed PC Gaming Alliance. If you buy a game on 360: you directly support Microsoft. If you buy it for PC: you indirectly support them. Either way Microsoft wins. Bwhahahahaah. Genius. bphan

that strtegy is actually all but genius because the 2 systems literally eat from each others napkin, you see, when you give people the option to chose between the 360 and pc you actually give them the option NOT to chose the 360, MS pretty much shot in their own foot

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[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

Way to try and ride on the PC's coat tails ya hobos.

bphan

wasnt this obviousNSR34GTR

Some people are still having a hard time understanding so I guess not.

How do I support Microsoft by not giving them my money?

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Man I can't believe no one thought of this angle before. Microsoft is a genius. They pretty much own 95% of the OS market. Gaming on PC is an advantage that is spouted daily against Microsoft's competitors like Apple and Linux. Do you think Microsoft cares that games are going to PC as well. They are rooting for it. They're pretty much the leaders of the newly formed PC Gaming Alliance. If you buy a game on 360: you directly support Microsoft. If you buy it for PC: you indirectly support them. Either way Microsoft wins. Bwhahahahaah. Genius. bphan

MS realizes ZERO financial benefit from the purchase of PC Games. ZERO. The only way they see money is if they publish the game.

That being said, MS is trying to strangle the PC market in many ways. As for gaming, one of the biggest problems is by keeping DX proprietary. The good thing is, OpenGL is still around and being advanced and can always be used to program games, and is just as, if not more powerful than anything DX offers. If MS were to collapse tomorrow, PC Games could always be made in OpenGL if they were no longer able to create them in DX. That's the bottom line. Also, MS doesn't see a penny for games developed in DX, there's no royalty involved. The day MS tries to charge for DX is the day all games start coming out in the OpenGL API. This isn't an option with the 360.

MS has no control over the direction of the games that come to the platform. It's open.

As for competition, Linux is getting better and better every year, becoming much more user friendly and far more stable than a MS product. MAC is also getting more and more games released on the platform which will only continue to grow in the coming years.

Overall, MS only has a sliver of the PC Gaming market, as many PC Gamer will buy Windows, but that's a one time purchase. Than you have to figure that every computer bought comes with a MS OS. This is a sale for MS reguardless if someone plays games on it or not.

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I support Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony and so should all gamers. If there were only one or two gaming companies prices for everything would probably sky rocket.Ghost_Dub

The irony is how much money you spent on consoles..

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#40 blackdreamhunk
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look at age of conan for exmple it was only a pc game tittle however ms now wants it on concole. Then there is the witcher and some other games ms is looking to put on concole. look at spore for exmple

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Man I can't believe no one thought of this angle before. Microsoft is a genius. They pretty much own 95% of the OS market. Gaming on PC is an advantage that is spouted daily against Microsoft's competitors like Apple and Linux. Do you think Microsoft cares that games are going to PC as well. They are rooting for it. They're pretty much the leaders of the newly formed PC Gaming Alliance. If you buy a game on 360: you directly support Microsoft. If you buy it for PC: you indirectly support them. Either way Microsoft wins. Bwhahahahaah. Genius. bphan

You do realise they don't make money off of games for the PC unless Microsoft makes them themselves.

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I own a PC with Windows, plus lots of games, and don't support Microsoft in any way. :wink:
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That being said, MS is trying to strangle the PC market in many ways. As for gaming, one of the biggest problems is by keeping DX proprietary. The good thing is, OpenGL is still around and being advanced and can always be used to program games, and is just as, if not more powerful than anything DX offers. If MS were to collapse tomorrow, PC Games could always be made in OpenGL if they were no longer able to create them in DX. That's the bottom line. Also, MS doesn't see a penny for games developed in DX, there's no royalty involved. The day MS tries to charge for DX is the day all games start coming out in the OpenGL API.mismajor99
Do you talk to many people in the industry? DX is one of the biggest reasons Windows is the de facto gaming platform right now. In today's environment... when it comes to making a game, having a standardized target to aim for is a good thing, however much we may dislike it (read: look at the console development situation from a PC gamer's perspective, we're whiny spoiled brats). I mean.. they remove DirectSound in Vista and toss it back out to OpenAL, and look at what kind of hell's been raised over that.
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pc gamers still need a operating system that means ms will still make alot of money off pc gamers. in order for sony to compete they should make their own operating system. why because in the long run pc games will only get better and ms will cash in. In a competive market every little edge helps
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pc gamers still need a operating system that means ms will still make alot of money off pc gamers. in order for sony to compete they should amke their own operating system. why because in the long run pc games willonly get better and ms will cash in. In a competive market every little edge helpsblackdreamhunk

False claim.. Even if you are not a pc gamer chances are you will have a pc with windows xp on it at the very least.

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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]pc gamers still need a operating system that means ms will still make alot of money off pc gamers. in order for sony to compete they should amke their own operating system. why because in the long run pc games willonly get better and ms will cash in. In a competive market every little edge helpssSubZerOo

False claim.. Even if you are not a pc gamer chances are you will have a pc with windows xp on it at the very least.

guess what windows xp is a mirco soft product they still have your money. I think micro soft is smart for joining the pc game alinace that's if they get it going. Just like blue ray helped sony ps3 the operating system will help ms.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]pc gamers still need a operating system that means ms will still make alot of money off pc gamers. in order for sony to compete they should amke their own operating system. why because in the long run pc games willonly get better and ms will cash in. In a competive market every little edge helpsblackdreamhunk

False claim.. Even if you are not a pc gamer chances are you will have a pc with windows xp on it at the very least.

guess what windows xp is a mirco soft product they still have your money. I think micro soft is smart for joining the pc game alinace that's if they get it going. Just like blue ray helped sony ps3 the operating system will help ms.

thats a terrible comparison.

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#48 Perception1
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]pc gamers still need a operating system that means ms will still make alot of money off pc gamers. in order for sony to compete they should amke their own operating system. why because in the long run pc games willonly get better and ms will cash in. In a competive market every little edge helpsblackdreamhunk

False claim.. Even if you are not a pc gamer chances are you will have a pc with windows xp on it at the very least.

guess what windows xp is a mirco soft product they still have your money. I think micro soft is smart for joining the pc game alinace that's if they get it going. Just like blue ray helped sony ps3 the operating system will help ms.

I think you have absolutely no clue what your talking about.

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#50 Bubblehash
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Microsoft only got my money to surf the web. Nvidia, Patriot, and Intel got my money for gaming. Hell even Sony got some of my money for PC gaming. I bought a Sony DVD-ROM drive and a Sony DVD-RW drive.;)