if you own both X360 & PS3: Which version of DMC4 you'll be getting?

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#101 beast667
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]tho the ps3 verison you get to install the game somewhat, making load times 2x as fast on the ps3, if u don't install it on the ps3 the load times are going to be around 2 min each because of the blu-ray speed and size. the dvd drive ron the 360 expect 6-10 seconds load times in big locations and less then one every where else.-Spock-

Installing doesn't make the loading two times faster; it eliminates it altogether. And installing 5GB of data on the HDD isn't an option - it's a requirement, so you will never, ever see any loading.

it completely gets rid of loading? sweet! i thought it just made them faster. :D
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[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]tho the ps3 verison you get to install the game somewhat, making load times 2x as fast on the ps3, if u don't install it on the ps3 the load times are going to be around 2 min each because of the blu-ray speed and size. the dvd drive ron the 360 expect 6-10 seconds load times in big locations and less then one every where else.LibertySaint

Installing doesn't make the loading two times faster; it eliminates it altogether. And installing 5GB of data on the HDD isn't an option - it's a requirement, so you will never, ever see any loading.

not from what i've been reading because it still needs to load info off of the disc it doesn't install the whole game. plus look at pc games there, they still load...so yeah and the load times are to be expected also (and also i do believe you don't have to install parts, it still reads the disc for the data but because of all that load times are huge, the hdd use just elimates lots othe time.) because look at past games on eahc console (cod4 takes what 4 seconds to load a map on the 360 takes about 2 minutes on the ps3. same with AC when it does have load times, i know from experince i own both console and my brothers have the diffrent verisons of the game which i use to test) and the speed of each console drivers. the ps3 blu-ray drive is slower, add the extra space of the blu-ray disc, all the space not used that is being searched for the needed data takes up load time. on the 360, thanks to the size, this only good thing about dvd 9, is the faster load times, the data can be found faster. and the 360's drive is faster the ps3s, i believe teh ps3 drive goes around 4x a normal drive and the 360's goes at 12x to 24x mattering the use.

5GB is a hell of a lot of data though (over half a DVDs worth), and it's a well known fact that data loads much faster from an HDD or memory stick than it does from a disc. Yes, things will still load from the DMC4 game disc, but that will happen in the background while you play, and in combination with the HDD data. It's the transitions - going from chapter to chapter, indoor environments to outdoor environments, loading a cutscene etc etc - that will be non-existent in the PS3 version, since those are the things that will benefit mostly from the fast HDD data access. Just look at Ninja Gaiden Sigma for example - long loads before the install; zero loads after the install. And no loads in the HDD-bound demo either. Many sites have already stated that DMC4 on PS3 = no loading screens.

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#103 lawlessx
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most fans will buy the ps3 version because of the controller
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#104 axes03
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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Mystery_Writer

you mean this?

Poor Cows and their inferior console

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#105 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]tho the ps3 verison you get to install the game somewhat, making load times 2x as fast on the ps3, if u don't install it on the ps3 the load times are going to be around 2 min each because of the blu-ray speed and size. the dvd drive ron the 360 expect 6-10 seconds load times in big locations and less then one every where else.-Spock-

Installing doesn't make the loading two times faster; it eliminates it altogether. And installing 5GB of data on the HDD isn't an option - it's a requirement, so you will never, ever see any loading.

not from what i've been reading because it still needs to load info off of the disc it doesn't install the whole game. plus look at pc games there, they still load...so yeah and the load times are to be expected also (and also i do believe you don't have to install parts, it still reads the disc for the data but because of all that load times are huge, the hdd use just elimates lots othe time.) because look at past games on eahc console (cod4 takes what 4 seconds to load a map on the 360 takes about 2 minutes on the ps3. same with AC when it does have load times, i know from experince i own both console and my brothers have the diffrent verisons of the game which i use to test) and the speed of each console drivers. the ps3 blu-ray drive is slower, add the extra space of the blu-ray disc, all the space not used that is being searched for the needed data takes up load time. on the 360, thanks to the size, this only good thing about dvd 9, is the faster load times, the data can be found faster. and the 360's drive is faster the ps3s, i believe teh ps3 drive goes around 4x a normal drive and the 360's goes at 12x to 24x mattering the use.

5GB is a hell of a lot of data though (over half a DVDs worth), and it's a well known fact that data loads much faster from an HDD or memory stick than it does from a disc. Yes, things will still load from the DMC4 game disc, but that will happen in the background while you play, and in combination with the HDD data. It's the transitions - going from chapter to chapter, indoor environments to outdoor environments, loading a cutscene etc etc - that will be non-existent in the PS3 version, since those are the things that will benefit mostly from the fast HDD data access. Just look at Ninja Gaiden Sigma for example - long loads before the install; zero loads after the install. And no loads in the HDD-bound demo either. Many sites have already stated that DMC4 on PS3 = no loading screens.

okay good, we are on the same page then, you are saying no loads, but are also saying loading for say big areas with lots of things that won't be on the hdd. and thats what i'm saying its not going to elimate the load time all toghter just make them better. it will stream data yep, but that will also be on teh 360, so you will be seeing potentially the same load times on teh 360 and ps3. remember 20gb hdd on the 360 only has 13 usable by the user, 2 used by the console it self and the rest for games (5gbs ;) funny huh). so data streaming off the 360s disc will go onto the 360's hdd, but will not say it just caches it. similar to the oblvion ps3 verison, but on a greater scale of streaming.

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[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]tho the ps3 verison you get to install the game somewhat, making load times 2x as fast on the ps3, if u don't install it on the ps3 the load times are going to be around 2 min each because of the blu-ray speed and size. the dvd drive ron the 360 expect 6-10 seconds load times in big locations and less then one every where else.LibertySaint

Installing doesn't make the loading two times faster; it eliminates it altogether. And installing 5GB of data on the HDD isn't an option - it's a requirement, so you will never, ever see any loading.

not from what i've been reading because it still needs to load info off of the disc it doesn't install the whole game. plus look at pc games there, they still load...so yeah and the load times are to be expected also (and also i do believe you don't have to install parts, it still reads the disc for the data but because of all that load times are huge, the hdd use just elimates lots othe time.) because look at past games on eahc console (cod4 takes what 4 seconds to load a map on the 360 takes about 2 minutes on the ps3. same with AC when it does have load times, i know from experince i own both console and my brothers have the diffrent verisons of the game which i use to test) and the speed of each console drivers. the ps3 blu-ray drive is slower, add the extra space of the blu-ray disc, all the space not used that is being searched for the needed data takes up load time. on the 360, thanks to the size, this only good thing about dvd 9, is the faster load times, the data can be found faster. and the 360's drive is faster the ps3s, i believe teh ps3 drive goes around 4x a normal drive and the 360's goes at 12x to 24x mattering the use.

This is wrong on so many levels first there is a big difference between x4 bd(ps3) and x12 dvd (360)

x4 bd is 18mb/second

x12 dvd is 16mb/second

so nope sonys drive is better and faster than the 360 and the only reason some multiy plat games load a small bit faster on the 360 is mainly due to the facted that they were MADE on the 360 then ported to the ps3 this will chancge with time as more and more devs chose ps3 as the lead platform (why do you think ps3 exclusive games have next to no loading times)

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#107 inertk
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PS3 version obviously.

No loading FTMFW + I see the playstation controller being necessary for Devil May Cry. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of playing it on the PS3. Urgh.

Edit: Lolmygod. You people must have tunnel vision if the only visual difference between the two versions you point out is that one. Either that or....

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#108 mushi799
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ps3 - no loading

nuff said

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#109 blazinpuertoroc
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Al3x_n90

you mean this?

right...no rgb, and on component cables but i guess that's one of the few things keeping the 360 fanboys going :)

its like that because it on HDMI with out the rgb setting on the tv gametrailers uses makes ps3 games look very washed out,....Gametrailers isnt the place to get comparison from...

anyways the ps3 version will have exclusive content along with an optional full 5gb download meaning absolutely no load times at all and DMC is made for a ps controller so yeah im getting it for ps3...

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#110 Meu2k7
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PC Version.
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#111 micky4889
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ps3 version
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#112 AIH_PSP
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PS3 because who play non-shooter games on a 360?
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#113 Sunamaru
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I would get the PS3 version, because I just got a PS3 nad eager to play it.
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#114 OGTiago
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360, but I don't own a ps3 anymore.
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#115 the_dark-knight
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...axes03

you mean this?

Poor Cows and their inferior console

You also failed to mention that the 360 version has screen tearing and is NOT better looking. That is motion-blur in the pic there

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#116 thirstychainsaw
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x4 bd is 18mb/second

x12 dvd is 16mb/second

so nope sonys drive is better and faster than the 360 and the only reason some multiy plat games load a small bit faster on the 360 is mainly due to the facted that they were MADE on the 360 then ported to the ps3 this will chancge with time as more and more devs chose ps3 as the lead platform (why do you think ps3 exclusive games have next to no loading times)

micky4889

Too bad the PS3 only has a 2X Blu-Ray drive :|

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#117 tubbyc
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I would go with the PS3 version, but I'll give it a miss since I didn't like DMC all that much. I'll be happy with Ninja Gaiden 2.

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#118 Big_T-Mac
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well it would be pretty foolish of me to get the ps3 version when i only have a 360. with that said i obviously prefer the comfortability of a standard controller only the 360 can offer.
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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Mystery_Writer

you mean this?

Ummm based on those screenshots which one is supposed to be better?

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#120 kage_53
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PC Version.Meu2k7
I can't believe you're actually going to trust Capcom when it comes to PC ports.
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#121 MisterShak
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Firstly, I'm not even sure I'll be getting DMC4... it just hasn't sold me yet. Beyond that, I'd probably go with the 360 version because it doesn't have a 20-30 min wait time (according to GS) before you play like the PS3 version. Beyond that... I only have a 360 to play it on. And oh yeah, one of the screens above kinda shows that the 360 version looks better.
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#122 Anoch20
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PS3, the PS3 controller is smaller and it's easier to put more combos together, and I'm used to playing DMC on that controller type. I have a dualshock 3 so I won't be missing forced feedback.
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#123 jackvegas21
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I'm pretty sure there'll be demos for both, but I gotta go with the PS3 vrsion for now.
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#124 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]tho the ps3 verison you get to install the game somewhat, making load times 2x as fast on the ps3, if u don't install it on the ps3 the load times are going to be around 2 min each because of the blu-ray speed and size. the dvd drive ron the 360 expect 6-10 seconds load times in big locations and less then one every where else.micky4889

Installing doesn't make the loading two times faster; it eliminates it altogether. And installing 5GB of data on the HDD isn't an option - it's a requirement, so you will never, ever see any loading.

not from what i've been reading because it still needs to load info off of the disc it doesn't install the whole game. plus look at pc games there, they still load...so yeah and the load times are to be expected also (and also i do believe you don't have to install parts, it still reads the disc for the data but because of all that load times are huge, the hdd use just elimates lots othe time.) because look at past games on eahc console (cod4 takes what 4 seconds to load a map on the 360 takes about 2 minutes on the ps3. same with AC when it does have load times, i know from experince i own both console and my brothers have the diffrent verisons of the game which i use to test) and the speed of each console drivers. the ps3 blu-ray drive is slower, add the extra space of the blu-ray disc, all the space not used that is being searched for the needed data takes up load time. on the 360, thanks to the size, this only good thing about dvd 9, is the faster load times, the data can be found faster. and the 360's drive is faster the ps3s, i believe teh ps3 drive goes around 4x a normal drive and the 360's goes at 12x to 24x mattering the use.

This is wrong on so many levels first there is a big difference between x4 bd(ps3) and x12 dvd (360)

x4 bd is 18mb/second

x12 dvd is 16mb/second

so nope sonys drive is better and faster than the 360 and the only reason some multiy plat games load a small bit faster on the 360 is mainly due to the facted that they were MADE on the 360 then ported to the ps3 this will chancge with time as more and more devs chose ps3 as the lead platform (why do you think ps3 exclusive games have next to no loading times)

really, thats note what i read and thast not what real world tests show, i.e AC, cod4, graw 2, tony hawks games on the ps3 all load slower then if they were on the 360, just watch comparison videos, do the test yourself (like i have) and it proves that it isn't what u say. Look it up blu-ray drive goes at 4xn dvd on 360 goes at 12x, yeas one can take in more data, but it needs TO FIND THAT DATA ON the disc first...you need to learn the basics. ps i'm not sure about the drive speeds exactly but i know the 360's is somewhere around 12 or 24 x, the ps3 mabe be 2x, 4x, or 8 x, i don't remember.

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#125 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="Al3x_n90"][QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...blazinpuertoroc

you mean this?

right...no rgb, and on component cables but i guess that's one of the few things keeping the 360 fanboys going :)

its like that because it on HDMI with out the rgb setting on the tv gametrailers uses makes ps3 games look very washed out,....Gametrailers isnt the place to get comparison from...

anyways the ps3 version will have exclusive content along with an optional full 5gb download meaning absolutely no load times at all and DMC is made for a ps controller so yeah im getting it for ps3...

man i lol at fanboys to much, learn2bermaticore and accept facts and look up the facts if unsure don't just take it in. dang...it does have loading, learn to look it up, and the content is on the 360 too dang...ppl...lolz. oh btw i'll be getting both verison because i'll be renting both :D

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#126 LibertySaint
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[QUOTE="axes03"][QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...the_dark-knight

you mean this?

Poor Cows and their inferior console

You also failed to mention that the 360 version has screen tearing and is NOT better looking. That is motion-blur in the pic there

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Mmmm.....screen tearing :)

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lol never seen that before, really? i'm gonna look it up, eitehr its true or thats just the device that recorded the video thats doing that,

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#127 Steakdinner
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360, honestly , i like the controller more, ive always disliked the control stick placements of the dualshocks. That and of the 3 games i have on PS3, all suffer from noticable screen tearing. Im just weary of buying fast action games for it, although ive heard the 360 has screen tearing, a couple of pics without labeling WHICH version it is isnt going to convince me til i read a review.
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#128 loudharley
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If i get the game at all ill get it on the 360 simply because i just love the 360s controller.I have both systems and i find that the ps3 controller is a little harder for me to use.I like the 360s analog placement and triggers.To be honest though i dont know if ill be getting the game period seeing as how ive never played the originals.
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#129 panquecas
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probably x360, i only use my ps3 to watch blu ray movies since there are no games that i really want to buy and the first ps3 game i buy wont be a multiplat for sure.

i'm not saying ps3 games are bad but i don't feel like spending 60/70 euros to play resistence and uncharted and since there are no stores to rent games, i'll just wait for them to cost 30 euros.

can someone tell me when batman begins is coming to blu ray?

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#130 Shadow2k6
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PS3. Too use to dualshocks for DMC anyways plus I need some more PS3 games.
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#131 funni_lov3
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im not even sure i will, dmc3 was......hard.....incredibly.
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#132 nicenator
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PS3 i think. Makes more sense to me since im used to that control scheme for DMC.
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#133 Always-Honest
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the 360 version will have less dancing edges and shadows, but the pS3 version will have HD install...

so it's a tough choice.. but maybe i won't buy it at all.

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#134 SeptimusV_basic
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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Mystery_Writer

you mean this?

You do notice the zoom and the brightness are not exactly the same right?

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#135 james28893
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[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...tm0054

you mean this?

Ummm based on those screenshots which one is supposed to be better?

360 has slightly more creases on the belt, um that's it...

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#137 karram
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360 because the rumble.
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#138 james28893
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360 because the rumble.ma7moud93

The Dualshock 3 is coming out soon though.

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#139 envybianchi
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I'll be getting it on the PS3 since I've played all 3 games on PS2.
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#140 jbisco25
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360 (only version I can get)Mad_Rhetoric

same here.

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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Mystery_Writer

you mean this?

These sort of issues aren't really anything to do with the way the PS3 is rendering the image per se, more so the awful scaling techniques it uses in place of a true hardware scaler. I can imagine these are 960x1080 internally and horizontally scaled to 1080 by the ps3. Which is why the look a lot softer than the 360 and some of the texture detail is blurred. I can imagine they'd look identical if they were both rendered at 1280x720. You can see it in pretty much all the 360/PS3 comparison vids

Have a look at the far detail in this shot, namely the vertical slats on the dark wall up high. The clock face, the posters etc.

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#142 karram
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[QUOTE="ma7moud93"]360 because the rumble.james28893

The Dualshock 3 is coming out soon though.

I want to play the game once it is released.
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#143 def_mode
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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Mystery_Writer

you mean this?

cut the crap out fanboy.

why should they worry about that when ur only going to see it for no more than 3 seconds

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#144 GnR-SLaSh
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[QUOTE="UnrealSin_X"]PS3 version since it's said to better than the 360's in some ways...Mystery_Writer

you mean this?

Good luck noticing that, friend. =]

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#145 jachichorro
Member since 2004 • 3058 Posts

I'm getting it for the 360:

-gamerpoints;

-better controller;

-better graphics.

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#146 Angry_Clown
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ps3 version of course(looks better, runs better) o and that screenshot, well, in comparisons they don't enable the rgb option on the ps3 and they don't enable the full white, or what's it called,either, so...anyway they use component cables, y'all should play with hdmi cables at 1080i or 1080p ;)Al3x_n90
oh snap man. i still have to wait till we move so i can get a HDTV, hoping or something that can go to 1080i

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#147 tmacscores91
Member since 2008 • 1526 Posts
gettin it for the PS3, no laods times...that says it all
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#148 Thornorway
Member since 2003 • 184 Posts

Will get mine if i get it at all on the 360 cause:

- The controller is alot better

- Achievementpoints

- No installing on the HD