If you played System Shock 2 you would know that it is the best FPS of all time.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Yes that is true, in future if i play todays games i will feel like "wow how could i think this was good", games get better and better. If i want play a shooter it is no way in hell i go back and play Quake1 when i can play Modern warfare2 today for an example. I did like Quake1..but not anymore.

Skittles_McGee

Not in all areas. Sure graphics get better, but some games get casualized (Not a bad thing if they're still fun but it's worse than when they used to be filled with depth) Stories have generally been getting worse as well.

Are we talking about stories here? Because I can come up with a huge list of games with deeper stories than today's games. :P

If we're talking about gameplay, some games are evolving while others are being stripped of parts.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]

Unless you played it back in the days and fell in love with it, it is trash today. All old games is trash, people play old games because of nostalgia but to all other that didnt play them when they came it is pure garbage.

aroxx_ab

I don't hate any1 because their opinion/taste in games, i don't play games to be "cool"...hey i even own a Wii and that is so far from cool you can get. I don't see the point in dig up and waste time with old inferior games when it is more new and better games. So my opinion is "elitsism"- thinking?.. hmm ok

So my opinion is "elitsism"- thinking?.. hmm ok

aroxx_ab

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]

Not in all areas. Sure graphics get better, but some games get casualized (Not a bad thing if they're still fun but it's worse than when they used to be filled with depth) Stories have generally been getting worse as well.

tagyhag

Are we talking about stories here? Because I can come up with a huge list of games with deeper stories than today's games. :P

If we're talking about gameplay, some games are evolving while others are being stripped of parts.

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Gameplay video

By the people who made Bioshock. Except System Shock 2 is sooooo much better.

Hint: It's better than Killzone 2.

Fried_Shrimp

I do agree that with all the technological advancements that we have today, narrating a story has improved dramatically (I'm looking at you Heavy Rain) I just hope that the occasional gem of a game with a fantastic story doesn't eventually fade away.tagyhag

'Tis rather great, isn't it? It has aged beautifully, also.

Kid thinks avatar is the best movie of 2009, leave him alone.greatmax1

As an overall game yes it is one of the best.

As an FPS it is piss poor imo, the 'shooting' wasnt the core point of the game.

Best FPS of all time is probably Half-Life

I'd play it given the chance... Have wanted to play it since before I knew what BioShock was... Alas I have never been able to get a copy at a reasonable price. :(

Respect the classics, that's all I can say. Go ahead and play new games exclusively, it doesn't bother me, but I'll tell you; games like SS2, Quake and Planescape did more for the game industry than you'll ever know.Im_single

Gameplay video

By the people who made Bioshock. Except System Shock 2 is sooooo much better.

Hint: It's better than Killzone 2.

Fried_Shrimp

I wouldn't call it FPS, more like first person RPG. Otherwise, it's among the best games out there. BTW Dead Space reminded me quite a lot of SS2.

I just recently played it for the first time a few months back.

I was surprised by how well the atmosphere held up today. The story was good. Shodan's "performance" is quite possibly onE of the most memorable and epic ones I ever heard from a game. "Look at you, hacker" is so awesome it's a Bioshock 2 achievement.

That being said the ending was piss poor. Worse then the ending of Bioshock. 10 second crappy cutscene, then the WTF She's still alive. Bam. credits.

I also couldn't stand the weapon degradation. Those future guns sure did break easy. I was always using the power that could stop the gun degradation.

I did like the way you "built" your character, and the way the you could choose level and charge your powers.

The gun play was less then steller, even compared to it's contemporaries. If the game hadn't been so very atmospheric with a memorable story and antagonist I wouldn't have bothered with it.

I hate the term "dumbing down" being synonymous with making more accesible. For all intents and purposes System Shock 2 was NOT a blockbuster. Ken Levine and company loved the game, but knew what did not resonate with gamers. That was the overcomplicated inventory managmenet, and the gun degradtion and poor way of switching powers, etc. The UI if you will. Overcomplicated and cumbersome isn't more difficult or rewarding. It's just annoying. Even if it is "deeper", it to me wasn't fun.

All of that was fixed in Bioshock, and though that game isn't "horror", the Atmosphere is also very very well done. The story is almost as good. The gunplay/powers are far better.

SS2 paved the way no doubt, but I can't be arsed to say I liked it better then Bioshock. Except for maybe Shodan. Perhaps if I played it at release I would feel different. The games a classi( no doubt. But it's not my favorite FPS.

Yeah, I agree it was a Fantastic game, it kills all shooters on the Wii, as well as PS3 and Xbox.:P

Too bad it needed to be dumbed down for consoles to get the sales up...but that worked.

Same thing happened to the Deus Ex franchise.

SolidTy

Now we're talking! However, I think that System Shock 1 was a lot more groundbreaking game for its time than System Shock 2. Shame that so few people played it. It's still influential up to this day.

P.S. Why do I always get HTML errors when quoting you? :?

SS2 was a great game but Doom3 and HL2 were better. Just my opinion...that is all....

[QUOTE="Im_single"]Respect the classics, that's all I can say. Go ahead and play new games exclusively, it doesn't bother me, but I'll tell you; games like SS2, Quake and Planescape did more for the game industry than you'll ever know.dog_dirt