If you were undecided, after today's news, would you still consider buying a X1?

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#51 Gaming-Planet
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I liked it better when consoles were just meant for gaming without having to go through all of the hassel Microsoft has shoved down our throats with.

Pop in and a play. The way gaming was meant to be.

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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]I wish these posters would stop sucking up MS and realize wtf they're doing. We heard nothing but bad news for the last 4 months or so and nothing but good news from Sony. Why would you support this? Is it because you invested in the 360? Or is this just System Wars trolling?NathanDrakeSwag

After getting ripped off from online fees for so many years there is no turning back for some of them.

:lol: They've invested too much to turn back now LOL If they did, they would finally feel ripped off they would LOL
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]I wish these posters would stop sucking up MS and realize wtf they're doing. We heard nothing but bad news for the last 4 months or so and nothing but good news from Sony. Why would you support this? Is it because you invested in the 360? Or is this just System Wars trolling?NathanDrakeSwag

After getting ripped off from online fees for so many years there is no turning back for some of them.

hi pot.
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[QUOTE="Sali217"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]And where did I say I was happy with either company doing it? See this is the problem Sony fans can not answer the question so they just try to insult or act like MS is the devil. Go ahead and try to pretend only MS is doing it though but Sony said before the MS event that they have no idea what will happen to the PS4 used games because they are leaving it all up to publishers.

Rage010101

You think I wont drop Sony right off of my radar if they do the same thing!? Hell yeah I will. If both companies do this I will go buy a WiiU within the next week! The only reason I don't have one now is in hopes of a price drop come E3.

Like I was saying I hope both consoles do not do it. It appears so far that both companies are going to change their used game policy to some degree and it is crazy we still do not have answers. The answers for both companies have been either the wrong answers gamers want to hear or just very vague. I just do not understand the Sony fanboys believing that nothing will change with used games considering Sony's answers. The publisher one for example either Sony is completely incompetent since they have no idea what is going on with their used games for their own product and are just leaving it all up to other companies or the other choice they are lying out their ass and just do not want to come clean.

Sony doesn't have an always online policy... it was confirmed months ago and then again this week. they are not going to be able to do the same thing as ms.. as you can play games offline with ps4 no check in required. At most they will have online pass type stuff from select publishers, which is like it is now. It was also confirmed that sony is not going to be doing any digital market place for used games. Used game sales are like they are now. Stop trying to assume the worst because you want PS4 to be just as bad as xbone so you can justify it to yourself.

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#55 NathanDrakeSwag
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="Sali217"] You think I wont drop Sony right off of my radar if they do the same thing!? Hell yeah I will. If both companies do this I will go buy a WiiU within the next week! The only reason I don't have one now is in hopes of a price drop come E3.

Midnightshade29

Like I was saying I hope both consoles do not do it. It appears so far that both companies are going to change their used game policy to some degree and it is crazy we still do not have answers. The answers for both companies have been either the wrong answers gamers want to hear or just very vague. I just do not understand the Sony fanboys believing that nothing will change with used games considering Sony's answers. The publisher one for example either Sony is completely incompetent since they have no idea what is going on with their used games for their own product and are just leaving it all up to other companies or the other choice they are lying out their ass and just do not want to come clean.

Sony doesn't have an always online policy... it was confirmed months ago and then again this week. they are not going to be able to do the same thing as ms.. as you can play games offline with ps4 no check in required. At most they will have online pass type stuff from select publishers, which is like it is now. It was also confirmed that sony is not going to be doing any digital market place for used games. Used game sales are like they are now. Stop trying to assume the worst because you want PS4 to be just as bad as xbone so you can justify it to yourself.

That is all lems can do now is hope M$ drags Sony down with them. It is sad they would rather see other companies follow suit instead of switching consoles or complaining to M$ about their anti-consumer policies.

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#56 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="Keiji993"]I wish these posters would stop sucking up MS and realize wtf they're doing. We heard nothing but bad news for the last 4 months or so and nothing but good news from Sony. Why would you support this? Is it because you invested in the 360? Or is this just System Wars trolling?NathanDrakeSwag

After getting ripped off from online fees for so many years there is no turning back for some of them.

 

Im not getting ripped, there was only one online network that got hacked and exposed millions of peoples personal and financial information

(including my own ) open to hackers.

PSN

Il pay £40 per year for security thanks very much...

Sony fanboys making all this fuss about kinnect breaching rights and privacy....and they dont seem to see the irony???

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#57 always_explicit
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]Like I was saying I hope both consoles do not do it. It appears so far that both companies are going to change their used game policy to some degree and it is crazy we still do not have answers. The answers for both companies have been either the wrong answers gamers want to hear or just very vague. I just do not understand the Sony fanboys believing that nothing will change with used games considering Sony's answers. The publisher one for example either Sony is completely incompetent since they have no idea what is going on with their used games for their own product and are just leaving it all up to other companies or the other choice they are lying out their ass and just do not want to come clean.

NathanDrakeSwag

Sony doesn't have an always online policy... it was confirmed months ago and then again this week. they are not going to be able to do the same thing as ms.. as you can play games offline with ps4 no check in required. At most they will have online pass type stuff from select publishers, which is like it is now. It was also confirmed that sony is not going to be doing any digital market place for used games. Used game sales are like they are now. Stop trying to assume the worst because you want PS4 to be just as bad as xbone so you can justify it to yourself.

That is all lems can do now is hope M$ drags Sony down with them. It is sad they would rather see other companies follow suit instead of switching consoles or complaining to M$ about their anti-consumer policies.

 

Haha your such a fanboy I bet even if Sony did crash and burn this generation you would still blame Microsoft.

Theres nothing anti consumer about DRM...its the way DRM is used that can be an issue. Microsoft are being relitively relaxed about who can and cant play games. If you playing with friends you can still do so...from your console or someone elses. The only thing you cant do is with much freedom is rent games....this is clearly an oppertunity for microsoft to develop their own Xbox Live rental initiative.

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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"]

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]Like I was saying I hope both consoles do not do it. It appears so far that both companies are going to change their used game policy to some degree and it is crazy we still do not have answers. The answers for both companies have been either the wrong answers gamers want to hear or just very vague. I just do not understand the Sony fanboys believing that nothing will change with used games considering Sony's answers. The publisher one for example either Sony is completely incompetent since they have no idea what is going on with their used games for their own product and are just leaving it all up to other companies or the other choice they are lying out their ass and just do not want to come clean.

NathanDrakeSwag

Sony doesn't have an always online policy... it was confirmed months ago and then again this week. they are not going to be able to do the same thing as ms.. as you can play games offline with ps4 no check in required. At most they will have online pass type stuff from select publishers, which is like it is now. It was also confirmed that sony is not going to be doing any digital market place for used games. Used game sales are like they are now. Stop trying to assume the worst because you want PS4 to be just as bad as xbone so you can justify it to yourself.

That is all lems can do now is hope M$ drags Sony down with them. It is sad they would rather see other companies follow suit instead of switching consoles or complaining to M$ about their anti-consumer policies.


It is sad and also confusing.
Whenever I hear/read the excuse that PS4 is going to do the same thing as XB1, I am always bewildered. These people have no concept of speaking to the market with their money. What matters more is blind loyalty- being satisfied with whatever shit flavored soup MS serves them, and doing so at any cost to the gaming industry. System wars is far less important than gaming itself.

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#59 Duckyindiana
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

How do you feel about M$ blocking rentals?

Sali217

How do you feel about 8/10?

8 out of 10 is a pretty good score.

It's a Great score but according to some cows around here it's an insult to ND :roll:

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#60 Sali217
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]I wish these posters would stop sucking up MS and realize wtf they're doing. We heard nothing but bad news for the last 4 months or so and nothing but good news from Sony. Why would you support this? Is it because you invested in the 360? Or is this just System Wars trolling?always_explicit

After getting ripped off from online fees for so many years there is no turning back for some of them.

 

Im not getting ripped, there was only one online network that got hacked and exposed millions of peoples personal and financial information

(including my own ) open to hackers.

PSN

Il pay £40 per year for security thanks very much...

Sony fanboys making all this fuss about kinnect breaching rights and privacy....and they dont seem to see the irony???

I have a friend who got his information stolen from XBL, the only difference is that Microsoft didn't shutdown the service to protect their customers when these things happened.
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#61 DrRockso87
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I... kinda still consider it. No way in hell I'm purchasing one Day 1, year 1, or anytime soon really. Really turned off by the console and expecting plenty of "exclusives" to arrive on PC. But still, there's some interesting tech that I'd like to see more of like illuminati. So, I guess so?

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#62 Clock-w0rk
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The only correct answer is "no."

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#63 LASer354
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It'd have to have a bunch of exclusives I'm interested in for me to want one.

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#64 BPoole96
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Most likely not but it also depends on Sony's position on all this controversy
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#65 OneInchMan99
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Absolutely. ShoulderOfOrion

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::?

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#66 clone01
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They could buy exclusive rights to any game and I wouldn't go near this console. I'd stop gaming before buying one.

NathanDrakeSwag
Cool. Stop gaming, then. No one will miss you.
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#67 LASer354
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

They could buy exclusive rights to any game and I wouldn't go near this console. I'd stop gaming before buying one.

clone01
Cool. Stop gaming, then. No one will miss you.

You know you would.
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#68 shawn30
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]we know you would you dumb fanboy :lol:CanYouDiglt

How do you feel about M$ blocking rentals?

About the same as SOny doing it. Keep dry humping your framed pic of Kaz and believing leaving their used game policy up to publishers means their used games practice has not changed.

LMAO!!! Byt yeah, still buying the X1 day 1 :)
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#69 blackace
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They could buy exclusive rights to any game and I wouldn't go near this console. I'd stop gaming before buying one.

NathanDrakeSwag
What if they bought all of Sony's 1st Party Developers? lmao!! You'd buy it in a heart beat. There's still a chance I will buy both consoles. I can't say there isn't a chance if the price is right and the policies are changed.
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#70 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

They could buy exclusive rights to any game and I wouldn't go near this console. I'd stop gaming before buying one.

LASer354
Cool. Stop gaming, then. No one will miss you.

You know you would.

Aww shucks, you're right.
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#71 blackace
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[QUOTE="The__Kraken"]

The only correct answer is "no."

Clock-w0rk

The answer is never no for a true gamer. Depends on a lot of things. Price. Games. Policy changes. Fees. Used Games. etc... Bias fanboys will immediately say no (or yes) of course. I'd say maybe. Gotta wait and see what transpires. It's a maybe for both the PS4 and XBox One at this point.
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#72 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="The__Kraken"]

The only correct answer is "no."

blackace

The answer is never no for a true gamer. Depends on a lot of things. Price. Games. Policy changes. Fees. Used Games. etc... Bias fanboys will immediately say no (or yes) of course. I'd say maybe. Gotta wait and see what transpires. It's a maybe for both the PS4 and XBox One at this point.

I think no or yes at this point is fair. Are you gonna be a maybe forever because of policy change or price? If MS changes its policy then sure but as of today my mind is made up. I won't stand behind anti consumer policies ever. The thing could cost 10 bucks but I wouldn't support it especially with how many gaming alternatives exist these days.

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i love everything about xbone and will buy it in a heart beat if it was not for there greedy drm bs system. i want to own the games i buy and not rent them til the end of next gen. if ms does not allow full time offline gaming for the games u BUY then the answer is NO there is no way in hell i will buy xbone and pay 60 dollars per game to rent it.

maybe i will consider this if all games are 9.99 or lower. but renting games and paying full price for this is crazy.:evil:

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[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="The__Kraken"]

The only correct answer is "no."

blackace

The answer is never no for a true gamer. Depends on a lot of things. Price. Games. Policy changes. Fees. Used Games. etc... Bias fanboys will immediately say no (or yes) of course. I'd say maybe. Gotta wait and see what transpires. It's a maybe for both the PS4 and XBox One at this point.

Personally, I'm proud to say that I'm NOT a "true gamer". I'm casual as hell, this video game $*** is total fluff, and I have absolutely no problem quitting entirely. There are far better things I could be doing, and there's not a chance in hell of me bothering with the X1.
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#75 SoldatKnight
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Nope. I'll miss Halo but won't put up with the system as it is.:(

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Nope.
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#77 The_Pacific
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:lol: no.
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#78 blackace
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I liked it better when consoles were just meant for gaming without having to go through all of the hassel Microsoft has shoved down our throats with.

Pop in and a play. The way gaming was meant to be.

Gaming-Planet
Me too. M$ & Sony has lots of apps for movie and TV on their systems. Neither the PS3 or XBox 360 is catering to games only. The PS3 was market as a Blu-Ray movie player when it initially launched. So it's not just Microsoft shoving these crazy apps down our throat. Both companies have done it in the past and will do it in the future. Sony has it's own picture company. You think they won't be pushing their films on the PS4? lol!!
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#79 moistsandwich
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I will get an X1 after a few price drops and a hardware revision, when they have more than a handful of exclusives.... so most likely not for a few years. If there is any chance a game will come out on another platform, I'll buy it for THE OTHER platform.

I won't deny myself some good gaming to make a point. But I'll do things in a way to afford MS as little of my money as possible. I'm done paying for XBOX Live as well. Might get myself a PS Plus membership though.

We'll see what E3 brings about... hopefully Sony won't disappoint.

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[QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

[QUOTE="The__Kraken"]

The only correct answer is "no."

blackace

The answer is never no for a true gamer. Depends on a lot of things. Price. Games. Policy changes. Fees. Used Games. etc... Bias fanboys will immediately say no (or yes) of course. I'd say maybe. Gotta wait and see what transpires. It's a maybe for both the PS4 and XBox One at this point.


Don't try to attack the integrity of people who reject ths DRM bullshit by hurling around the term "true gamer." How about this: I care about video games as a business, and I will not let it get ruined by this DRM and online check in garbage. I could easily say that views like mine are those of a "true gamer."

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#81 moistsandwich
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Nope. I'll miss Halo but won't put up with the system as it is.:(

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^ this

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#82 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

ActicEdge

The answer is never no for a true gamer. Depends on a lot of things. Price. Games. Policy changes. Fees. Used Games. etc... Bias fanboys will immediately say no (or yes) of course. I'd say maybe. Gotta wait and see what transpires. It's a maybe for both the PS4 and XBox One at this point.

I think no or yes at this point is fair. Are you gonna be a maybe forever because of policy change or price? If MS changes its policy then sure but as of today my mind is made up. I won't stand behind anti consumer policies ever. The thing could cost 10 bucks but I wouldn't support it especially with how many gaming alternatives exist these days.

Maybe is a good answer when you don't have ALL THE ANSWERS yet. That's the smartest answer of all. Once all the answers (price, online fees, policies, launch titles, etc..) are ALL out in the open, then I can make a definitely answer. Everyone is different. I just choose a more reliable and smarter approach, that's all.
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#83 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]MrGeezer
The answer is never no for a true gamer. Depends on a lot of things. Price. Games. Policy changes. Fees. Used Games. etc... Bias fanboys will immediately say no (or yes) of course. I'd say maybe. Gotta wait and see what transpires. It's a maybe for both the PS4 and XBox One at this point.

Personally, I'm proud to say that I'm NOT a "true gamer". I'm casual as hell, this video game $*** is total fluff, and I have absolutely no problem quitting entirely. There are far better things I could be doing, and there's not a chance in hell of me bothering with the X1.

Different strokes for different folks.
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#84 Keiji993
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Looks like MS has a new friend

online only

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#85 Sali217
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I really like everything about the xbox one (even the TV stuff) EXCEPT for their used games and online policies. I won't support a company that wants to trample all over my first sale rights and treats me the consumer like a thief.
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I'' wait until E3, but unlikely.
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#87 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Clock-w0rk"]

X_CAPCOM_X

The answer is never no for a true gamer. Depends on a lot of things. Price. Games. Policy changes. Fees. Used Games. etc... Bias fanboys will immediately say no (or yes) of course. I'd say maybe. Gotta wait and see what transpires. It's a maybe for both the PS4 and XBox One at this point.


Don't try to attack the integrity of people who reject ths DRM bullshit by hurling around the term "true gamer." How about this: I care about video games as a business, and I will not let it get ruined by this DRM and online check in garbage. I could easily say that views like mine are those of a "true gamer."

That's your opinion. i don't like the DRM BS either, but I can't judge it until the system is complete and has launched. A lot can change between now and the launch day. For some reason gamers don't seem to understand that. Especially bias fanboys who seem to take certain things as FACT and other things as FAKE. I've always learned to never jump to conclusions. Best advice Mother taught me.
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#88 ActicEdge
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Maybe is a good answer when you don't have ALL THE ANSWERS yet. That's the smartest answer of all. Once all the answers (price, online fees, policies, launch titles, etc..) are ALL out in the open, then I can make a definitely answer. Everyone is different. I just choose a more reliable and smarter approach, that's all.blackace

Its MS hiding all this shit not me. They can't hinge my maybe when they are the pure reason it is. You're trying so hard to seem reasonable because you've already decided you want an X1. Me, every system is worth owning at some point but I won't own one with anti consumer policies. So sorry my standards outstrip wanting to play video games :roll:

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#89 blackace
Member since 2002 • 23576 Posts

[QUOTE="blackace"] Maybe is a good answer when you don't have ALL THE ANSWERS yet. That's the smartest answer of all. Once all the answers (price, online fees, policies, launch titles, etc..) are ALL out in the open, then I can make a definitely answer. Everyone is different. I just choose a more reliable and smarter approach, that's all.ActicEdge

Its MS hiding all this shit not me. They can't hinge my maybe when they are the pure reason it is. You're trying so hard to seem reasonable because you've already decided you want an X1. Me, every system is worth owning at some point but I won't own one with anti consumer policies. So sorry my standards outstrip wanting to play video games :roll:

I haven't decided anything yet. I'm leaning more to the PS4, but still waiting for Sony to answer all the hard questions. My stand is still maybe for both systems. I could easily just pass on both and continue to play my PS3 and XBox 360 for another 2 years. I have lots of unplayed games.
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#90 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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BIG Halo fan--I think Halo for is in the top five games this gen. Rumors of Killer Instinct and Battletoads, two more of my favorites. At this point I will NOT buy the console even if the games look enticing. I've said it numerous times that I simply can't see ms going through with all this. It's just plain ol suicide. And let's say they do drop a lot of the shenanigans. Even then the Xbox division has just become so untrustworthy. Microsoft is taking a huge gamble on this. They are going off the monetary proof of COD sales, subscriptions, and dlc that gamers will buy into it. However, I think the line was crossed and people are now realizing what they've done to the brand.
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#91 pcgamingowns
Member since 2013 • 1223 Posts

Get rid of required kinect.

Get rid of the blocking of used games

Get rid of the always online.

 

The only way ill buy a microsoft console again.

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#92 mane_basic
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ok i can't c the big deal i guess since i never bought a use game i never traded in my games and my xbox is always connect so nothing changes for me so no biggie

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#93 Sali217
Member since 2012 • 1301 Posts

ok i can't c the big deal i guess since i never bought a use game i never traded in my games and my xbox is always connect so nothing changes for me so no biggie

mane_basic
Until 10 years from now when they shut down the authentication servers. bye bye old game library.
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#94 lunatic0495
Member since 2005 • 134 Posts

What was said today concerns me because I don't see how MS can or will do this without knowing full well that Sony will be doing it to.  If Sony's stance or practice isn't the same and in fact better MS is basically digging their own grave.  

MS came out and put it all out there yet Sony still hasn't given us a concrete answer.  That is what concerns me.

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#95 ziggyww
Member since 2012 • 907 Posts
[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] How do you feel about 8/10?mems_1224


Awesome, it contributed greatly to the 96 score on Metacritic

Meta what? This is gamespot buddy.

you just lost...you do know that right?
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#96 LASer354
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Awesome, it contributed greatly to the 96 score on Metacriticziggyww
Meta what? This is gamespot buddy.

you just lost...you do know that right?

Only Gamespot counts on here.
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#97 vaderhater
Member since 2003 • 3972 Posts

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

How do you feel about M$ blocking rentals?

NathanDrakeSwag

About the same as SOny doing it. Keep dry humping your framed pic of Kaz and believing leaving their used game policy up to publishers means their used games practice has not changed.

Sony already confirmed they won't be doing it. Any 3rd parties who do it on PS4 will only make themselves look bad because of it not being required. M$ are requiring it.

Sony hasnt confirmed shit. All sony has done is shown how the console looks like a blurry square FFS.

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#98 TigerSuperman
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Not that I have a choice. BTW, for the record a bookmark this, all the stuff out is completely wrong. In 3 days you will get different answers oficially then what's spreading. I will however, say that 2 of the statements spreading are partially true but mostly fabricated.
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#99 Master_Live
Member since 2004 • 20550 Posts
I'm getting older, maybe is time for me to stop gaming.
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#100 clr84651
Member since 2010 • 5643 Posts

The only correct answer is "no."

The__Kraken

This^

Let the idiotic gamers buy X1.Â