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#51 ParadiddleFill
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it really pisses me off when people say PSN sucks

i have XBL and PSN and let me tell you that PSN is missing in-game messaging and that is about it, you pay 50 bucks a year for XBL and its the biggest rip off ever

if AC6 really is exclusive, than its no biggy i have a 360, just makes my 360 purchase all the more worth it

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why do you have live if you feel its a ripoff?

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]in this instance, Insomniac has proven that a flying game with 32 players is possible on PSN. It could be better...but the fact remains it can be done, and probably be done sufficiently well. Forza_2

Yeah, but they would most likely need dedicated servers which we don't know if Namco-Bandai wants that.

yea well...yea. I wonder how much it costs to run those things.

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#53 rocafelon1001
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it really pisses me off when people say PSN sucks

i have XBL and PSN and let me tell you that PSN is missing in-game messaging and that is about it, you pay 50 bucks a year for XBL and its the biggest rip off ever

if AC6 really is exclusive, than its no biggy i have a 360, just makes my 360 purchase all the more worth it

R-Dot-Yung

You've got to be kidding. When was the last time you were on live?

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#54 MonkeyMan8708
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Ace Combat 6 is going to rock so hard. I like those games. And I'm going to play it with this:

Seriously, I can't wait for that game.

FearlessSpirit

I have never played an Ace game before...but this really makes me want to :o

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#56 Socrates88
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]in this instance, Insomniac has proven that a flying game with 32 players is possible on PSN. It could be better...but the fact remains it can be done, and probably be done sufficiently well. Forza_2

Yeah, but they would most likely need dedicated servers which we don't know if Namco-Bandai wants that.

They doing it for Tekken 5....

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#58 raidenseven
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are us cows forgeting were getting warhawkistayonfireboy

if crimson skies is announced for 360.... PS3 cant hold a candle to flight games of the 360 :)

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#59 Forza_2
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because i have no choice, i need to play my games with online multiplayer, MS beat me, they win

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Have you had enough time to check all of its functionalities ?

Yes, that's a question.

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#60 Zero-G_basic
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I don't think he was saying it sucked. I think he meant how easy it is for 3rd parties to have online up and running with the slightest of ease on Xbox LIVE. Where as if you are making a online structure for a game on PS3 you have to build the structure and set up the servers. Sure it's nice the Sony covers 1st/2nd Party games and Published game by them. But if you don't fit in that criteria your are pretty much on your own.
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#61 raidenseven
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a quick question.... are the clips with the people on the ground mean their is going to be ground missions on AC:6?

or are those just going to be clips for cutscenes in the game, ecause it looks like MGS4 in those cutscenes :P

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#62 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

because i have no choice, i need to play my games with online multiplayer, MS beat me, they win

Forza_2

Have you had enough time to check all of its functionalities ?

Yes, that's a question.

I doubt he even has live

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#63 Socrates88
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I don't think he was saying it sucked. I think he meant how easy it is for 3rd parties to have online up and running with the slightest of ease on Xbox LIVE. Where as if you are making a online structure for a game on PS3 you have to build the structure and set up the servers. Sure it's nice the Sony covers 1st/2nd Party games and Published game by them. But if you don't fit in that criteria your are pretty much on your own.Zero-G_basic

Just like PC? Do't act like it's a bad thing Sony is doing. They giving freedom to the developers as if they making a online for PC.

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#64 raidenseven
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I came a little late, but I want to add one thing....

ACE COMBAT OWNS!! NO console flight game holds a candle to it in my opinion.

Aterfire

i know its sci fi (thats my cup of tea) but i love crimson skies out of all flight games... i know its arcady but that was the fun of it!

anyway, i hope ace combat 6 is a really good game cause i would love to frag in the air.

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#65 Zero-G_basic
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[QUOTE="Zero-G_basic"]I don't think he was saying it sucked. I think he meant how easy it is for 3rd parties to have online up and running with the slightest of ease on Xbox LIVE. Where as if you are making a online structure for a game on PS3 you have to build the structure and set up the servers. Sure it's nice the Sony covers 1st/2nd Party games and Published game by them. But if you don't fit in that criteria your are pretty much on your own.Socrates88

Just like PC? Don't act like it's a bad thing Sony is doing. They giving freedom to the developers as if they making a online for PC.

Yes it's good to give them the freedom but it also leaves them bill when it comes to maintaining the servers. Where as if you make an xbox live game all you do is implement the on-line in the game and Microsoft take care of the rest leaving the cost and concern of server maintenance on microsoft. So that leaves microsoft with the bigger advantage because 3rd party developers aren't footing the bill. Also why there are more demos on LIVE than PSN seeing as Developers also have to foot that cost too.
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#66 Socrates88
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[QUOTE="Socrates88"]

[QUOTE="Zero-G_basic"]I don't think he was saying it sucked. I think he meant how easy it is for 3rd parties to have online up and running with the slightest of ease on Xbox LIVE. Where as if you are making a online structure for a game on PS3 you have to build the structure and set up the servers. Sure it's nice the Sony covers 1st/2nd Party games and Published game by them. But if you don't fit in that criteria your are pretty much on your own.Zero-G_basic

Just like PC? Don't act like it's a bad thing Sony is doing. They giving freedom to the developers as if they making a online for PC.

Yes it's good to give them the freedom but it also leaves them bill when it comes to maintaining the servers. Where as if you make an xbox live game all you do is implement the on-line in the game and Microsoft take care of the rest leaving the cost and concern of server maintenance on microsoft. So that leaves microsoft with the bigger advantage because 3rd party developers aren't footing the bill. Also why there are more demos on LIVE than PSN seeing as Developers also have to foot that cost too.

Now you care about companies budget? Give me a freaking break. Xbox360 has the install base now. It will all change when PS3 takes over. If theirs money to be made on the PS3 developers WILL make servers for Sony.

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#67 Zero-G_basic
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[QUOTE="Zero-G_basic"][QUOTE="Socrates88"]

[QUOTE="Zero-G_basic"]I don't think he was saying it sucked. I think he meant how easy it is for 3rd parties to have online up and running with the slightest of ease on Xbox LIVE. Where as if you are making a online structure for a game on PS3 you have to build the structure and set up the servers. Sure it's nice the Sony covers 1st/2nd Party games and Published game by them. But if you don't fit in that criteria your are pretty much on your own.Socrates88

Just like PC? Don't act like it's a bad thing Sony is doing. They giving freedom to the developers as if they making a online for PC.

Yes it's good to give them the freedom but it also leaves them bill when it comes to maintaining the servers. Where as if you make an xbox live game all you do is implement the on-line in the game and Microsoft take care of the rest leaving the cost and concern of server maintenance on microsoft. So that leaves microsoft with the bigger advantage because 3rd party developers aren't footing the bill. Also why there are more demos on LIVE than PSN seeing as Developers also have to foot that cost too.

Now you care about companies budget? Give me a freaking break. Xbox360 has the install base now. It will all change whenPS3 takes over. If theirs money to be made on the PS3 developers WILL make servers for Sony.

That's if PS3 takes over and the way it looks now i highly doubt that. Also I don't care what costs the companies have to spend i'm just saying there is a greater incentive on Microsoft's platform than on Sony's. So unless sony is on top this Gen. expect this pattern we are seeing now continue. Also 3rd party's will make servers but they may not be of the same calibur as sony dedicated ones.
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#69 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

because i have no choice, i need to play my games with online multiplayer, MS beat me, they win

R-Dot-Yung

Have you had enough time to check all of its functionalities ?

Yes, that's a question.

I doubt he even has live

than your a fool, my bro graduated middle school and with his money we are replacing our crapped 360 with an Elite, i had posted this in the 360 forums asking for advice

so take your self righteous lemming booty outa my sight, ignorance

I dont think you have Live get over it son

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#70 F1sTDaCuffS
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"It's too bad that Sony lost one of its consistently solid franchises to Microsoft, but that's what you get when your online initiative sucks. Ace Combat 6: Fires of Liberation should deliver some great moments on Xbox Live, and the closer the developers can get to 32 players the better."The gameplay that we got a chance to check out felt like clas-sicc Ace Combat fare, but the build was still early, and it was tough pay attention to anything other than the awesome water effects from a few thousand feet up. We'll have more on Ace Combat 6 as soon as we can get a build into the office and check it out first-hand.

Here is the link

IGN knows PSN sucks, PC and 360 gamers know it sucks, I know it sucks. Hell, the only people in denial are the cows:|

Vandam500

i did'nt realize what the difference was until i played cod 3 on psn. for free service on the psn you can keep it. its junk, now i know why i pay 50 dollars a year to xbla. you 100% right on the money with PSN ITS COPLETE GARBAGe. i wasted 680 dollars on a horrible system ps3:cry:. but, i do have my elite:D

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#71 Vyse_The_Daring
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[QUOTE="rocafelon1001"]By the time PSN "catches up" to what XBL is right now, XBL will still be a million miles ahead of PSN.Dreams-Visions

XBL most certainly has the more solid foundation. If XBL gets dedicated servers or some such to address the ocassional lag issue, it'll be untouchable.

it just has the better conceptual foundation.

Someone on this forum said that MS was looking into have dedicated servers. Is it true or were they lying?

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#72 NobuoMusicMaker
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"'The whole package (game included) will retail for $149.99.' And 10 dollars for each plane, we'll make 10 planes available. And 5 dollars per extra map because we only made one map available for the game. We plan to release 12 more maps. And you have to pay 20 dollars a month to use Ace Combat peripherals on Xbox Live."

Enjoy your microtransactions.

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#73 ParadiddleFill
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"'The whole package (game included) will retail for $149.99.' And 10 dollars for each plane, we'll make 10 planes available. And 5 dollars per extra map because we only made one map available for the game. We plan to release 12 more maps. And you have to pay 20 dollars a month to use Ace Combat peripherals on Xbox Live."

Enjoy your microtransactions.

NobuoMusicMaker

jelous much?

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#74 miss_kitt3n
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Resistance=40 players
Socom Confrontation=32 players
Haze(PS3)= 24 players

Halo 3= 16 players with reduced graphics quality.

PSN is OK.

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#75 Acenso
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It doesn't suck. But its the same as PS2. It can be good, but unlike 360. The devs have to go out and spend extra time and money to make it good. Pretty much only 1st party and a few 3rd will have good online. All MS did, was making it extremely easy for devs to use and make thier set up. They took the stress of developer's hands to say.

PS3 online...Well when Cows are copying Gametags now for what you are playing and they are not even offical ones. Kind of tells you the state of it now? Doesn't?

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#76 p2rus
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dedicated servers ftw

edit: wow i didnt know it was 150 bucks

jesus

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#77 miss_kitt3n
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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

"'The whole package (game included) will retail for $149.99.' And 10 dollars for each plane, we'll make 10 planes available. And 5 dollars per extra map because we only made one map available for the game. We plan to release 12 more maps. And you have to pay 20 dollars a month to use Ace Combat peripherals on Xbox Live."

Enjoy your microtransactions.

ParadiddleFill

jelous much?

Jelous of being Milked?... :lol:

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#78 ParadiddleFill
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Resistance=40 players
Socom Confrontation=32 players
Haze(PS3)= 24 players

Halo 3= 16 players with reduced graphics quality.

PSN is OK.

miss_kitt3n

delta force had 64 players on xbox whats your point?

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#79 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

"'The whole package (game included) will retail for $149.99.' And 10 dollars for each plane, we'll make 10 planes available. And 5 dollars per extra map because we only made one map available for the game. We plan to release 12 more maps. And you have to pay 20 dollars a month to use Ace Combat peripherals on Xbox Live."

Enjoy your microtransactions.

miss_kitt3n

jelous much?

Jelous of being Milked?... :lol:

jelous that its not coming out on the ps3

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#80 Socrates88
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Resistance=40 players
Socom Confrontation=32 players
Haze(PS3)= 24 players

Halo 3= 16 players with reduced graphics quality.

PSN is OK.

miss_kitt3n

It's at an infant stage. People expect a product to be top-notch from Sony. I guess that what you get from being number 1 for all these years. Either your the best or worst. There is no in between.

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#81 DementedDragon
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I guess it sucks because it's free and the developers have to set the games up themselves. The fact that Warhawk (which seems similar) is having online really makes that IGN 'diss' obsolete in my eyes.
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#82 flashattackfina
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ParadiddleFill Ace Combat is coming to ps3they said it is a timed exclusive
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#83 Socrates88
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I guess it sucks because it's free and the developers have to set the games up themselves. The fact that Warhawk (which seems similar) is having online really makes that IGN 'diss' obsolete in my eyes.DementedDragon

Being a Warhawk beta tester, I can truly say it works great too. Gameplay could use a little bit of work. 8/10 if I had to reveiw it.

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Please explain to me why it sucks. I know it may suck for developers because it's not as easy as XBL but how the hell does it "suck" for gamers? :|
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#85 RazMaTaz-1
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I aint fussed, i just want Ace Combat 6. I own all 3 consoles neway :P
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#86 ParadiddleFill
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Please explain to me why it sucks. I know it may suck for developers because it's not as easy as XBL but how the hell does it "suck" for gamers? :|munu9

not alot of devs will spend time on psn because they have to do all the work, making alot of ps3 games offline

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#87 ParadiddleFill
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ParadiddleFill Ace Combat is coming to ps3they said it is a timed exclusiveflashattackfina

link me? cause im pretty sure its not a timed exclusive

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[QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

"'The whole package (game included) will retail for $149.99.' And 10 dollars for each plane, we'll make 10 planes available. And 5 dollars per extra map because we only made one map available for the game. We plan to release 12 more maps. And you have to pay 20 dollars a month to use Ace Combat peripherals on Xbox Live."

Enjoy your microtransactions.

ParadiddleFill

jelous much?

I'm jealous of Nobuo's abiltiy to grossly exagerate things. I wish I had that kind of hyperbole skill.

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#89 munu9
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[QUOTE="munu9"]Please explain to me why it sucks. I know it may suck for developers because it's not as easy as XBL but how the hell does it "suck" for gamers? :|ParadiddleFill

not alot of devs will spend time on psn because they have to do all the work, making alot of ps3 games offline

Okay, but how does it suck now? PSN has great online games with no lag :| All the basics to play a really fun mutliplayer. And did I mention it's free?

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The latest Official Xbox Mag has a whopping great preview of Ace Combat 6 for the 360, and also the not-very-unexpected-at-all-really news that it's exclusive for the 360. Well...it's a timed exclusive. I'm of the opinion that a timed exclusive isn't really an exclusive at all, but then I'm also of the opinion a man can wear sandals and socks if the weather permits, so make of that what you will.

In the end, while the 360 version gets all the glory in first place, both consoles get Ace Combat 6, Namco makes twice as much money, everyone's happy.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/exclusive/oxm-says-ace-combat-6-is-360-timed-exclusive-250945.php

ParadiddleFill here you go

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#91 NobuoMusicMaker
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[QUOTE="miss_kitt3n"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

"'The whole package (game included) will retail for $149.99.' And 10 dollars for each plane, we'll make 10 planes available. And 5 dollars per extra map because we only made one map available for the game. We plan to release 12 more maps. And you have to pay 20 dollars a month to use Ace Combat peripherals on Xbox Live."

Enjoy your microtransactions.

ParadiddleFill

jelous much?

Jelous of being Milked?... :lol:

jelous that its not coming out on the ps3

No not really jealous about not getting microtransactioned.

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#92 p2rus
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"]

[QUOTE="munu9"]Please explain to me why it sucks. I know it may suck for developers because it's not as easy as XBL but how the hell does it "suck" for gamers? :|munu9

idk yxbox live ppl dont get that "no lag" thing cause theyve all been playing geow will the shotgun host

not alot of devs will spend time on psn because they have to do all the work, making alot of ps3 games offline

Okay, but how does it suck now? PSN has great online games with no lag :| All the basics to play a really fun mutliplayer. And did I mention it's free?

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#93 SergeantSnitch
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Uh oh, now I guess IGN is teh bias...

Cows are running out of "bias-free" havens.

D0013ER



That's because they ARE teh bias...Every website out there on the internet is biased against the PS3 because the ENTIRE media hates the PS3. All they do is report the BAD news. The only site that ISN'T biased is the Sony Protection Group site and even they sometimes post biased information.



I'm kidding.

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#94 ParadiddleFill
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The latest Official Xbox Mag has a whopping great preview of Ace Combat 6 for the 360, and also the not-very-unexpected-at-all-really news that it's exclusive for the 360. Well...it's a timed exclusive. I'm of the opinion that a timed exclusive isn't really an exclusive at all, but then I'm also of the opinion a man can wear sandals and socks if the weather permits, so make of that what you will.

In the end, while the 360 version gets all the glory in first place, both consoles get Ace Combat 6, Namco makes twice as much money, everyone's happy.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/exclusive/oxm-says-ace-combat-6-is-360-timed-exclusive-250945.php

ParadiddleFill here you go

flashattackfina

did you even read your own source nowhere in the article did it state that it was a confirmed Timed Exclusive

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#95 shaggymcp
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while I will be getting both Warhawk and Ace combat 6, I can honestly say I think warhawk will destroy AC6 interms of fun and gameplay, its a no brainer.
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#96 ferrarimanf355
Member since 2005 • 1884 Posts

Ace Combat 6 is going to rock so hard. I like those games. And I'm going to play it with this:

Seriously, I can't wait for that game.

FearlessSpirit

I never played an Ace Combat game before, yet I want that stick. Hopefully, it's compatible with the rumored Crimson Skies sequel, because if it is, I'll happily pay the $150 for the AC6 LCE. :)

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#97 DMC4ALL
Member since 2007 • 25 Posts
[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="miss_kitt3n"][QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]

"'The whole package (game included) will retail for $149.99.' And 10 dollars for each plane, we'll make 10 planes available. And 5 dollars per extra map because we only made one map available for the game. We plan to release 12 more maps. And you have to pay 20 dollars a month to use Ace Combat peripherals on Xbox Live."

Enjoy your microtransactions.

NobuoMusicMaker

jelous much?

Jelous of being Milked?... :lol:

jelous that its not coming out on the ps3

No not really jealous about not getting microtransactioned.

Those designer pants and tv's in home say differently

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#98 DMC4ALL
Member since 2007 • 25 Posts
The latest Official Xbox Mag has a whopping great preview of Ace Combat 6 for the 360, and also the not-very-unexpected-at-all-really news that it's exclusive for the 360. Well...it's a timed exclusive. I'm of the opinion that a timed exclusive isn't really an exclusive at all, but then I'm also of the opinion a man can wear sandals and socks if the weather permits, so make of that what you will.

In the end, while the 360 version gets all the glory in first place, both consoles get Ace Combat 6, Namco makes twice as much money, everyone's happy.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/exclusive/oxm-says-ace-combat-6-is-360-timed-exclusive-250945.php

ParadiddleFill here you go

flashattackfina

so any 360 fanboy who uses OXM as a source = self ownage, but it isn't when a cow does it?

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#99 TyrantDragon55
Member since 2004 • 6851 Posts

Resistance=40 players
Socom Confrontation=32 players
Haze(PS3)= 24 players

Halo 3= 16 players with reduced graphics quality.

PSN is OK.

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16 players for Halo 3 is a design choice, and what exactly is wrong with it's graphics? Haze is coming to the Xbox 360, Perfect Dark Zero has 32 players, and Huxley has 200 players.

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#100 Kook18
Member since 2006 • 4257 Posts

Ace Combat 6 is going to rock so hard. I like those games. And I'm going to play it with this:

FearlessSpirit
yeah, if you're a righty :cry: