IGN Gran Turismo 5 Real Pics No BullShots

[QUOTE="bryn8150"]

you have a point, its not a helicopter sim, but werent we promised graphics that rivaled, or were better than reality?

isnt this the game that was going to blow forza away graphically.

sorry but with the exception of highly detailed cars i was expecting more than cardboard cut-out trees in the year 2010?.

people who were expecting graphices that were better than reality need to be made aware of this thats all.

yes because

this looks sooo realistic. :roll:

give me a break, the mountains look like it was ripped from the de_dust map of Counter-Strike, seriously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQa3ScM61E

Forza 3 doesn't even have detail outside of the track. Just gray spots.

@ 0:48

Uhh those screens look actually pretty good in my eyes, I guess i have the brain damage. The only thing that looks bad in those screens is a few cases of low quality shadows and textures in the background.

So i take it everybody thinks Polyphony should spend all their time and resources focusing on making the background look really nice? :roll:

IGN has real pics of GT5 up on its website. forget thise Bullshots that have been distributed.

the cars look Phenominal as Polyphony's work always does, but the trees and Environments, well ill leave that up to you to decide.

after all the hype about this game blowing Forza 3 away in the graphics department these pics tell a decidely different story.

what do YOU GUYS think?

P.S And NO i didnt scour the Internet looking for the WORST GT5 images i could find. these are the latest images from actual gameplay.

link 1

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/857/857126/imgs_5.html

link 2

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/images/gran-turismo-5-20100616063751654.html?page=mediaFull

link 3

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/images/gran-turismo-5-20100616063810091.html?page=mediaFull

link 4

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/images/gran-turismo-5-20100616063818481.html?page=mediaFull

link 5

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/857126/gran-turismo-5/images/gran-turismo-5-20100616063829387.html?page=mediaFull

bryn8150

So? Grid a 2008 game....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQa3ScM61E

Forza 3 doesn't even have detail outside of the track. Just gray spots.

@ 0:48

SupraGT

Uhh those screens look actually pretty good in my eyes, I guess i have the brain damage. The only thing that looks bad in those screens is a few cases of low quality shadows and textures in the background.

So i take it everybody thinks Polyphony should spend all their time and resources focusing on making the background look really nice? :roll:

Jesus_on_fire

But all the cool kids are doin' it.

Posting pictures of racing games that use polygon based crowds, backgrounds and foliage isin't allowed. Everybody knows 2D sprites are way better. Please stop.

Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.LookAnDrolL

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.windsquid9000

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.windsquid9000

LMAO blind fanboyism for the loss , GT5 simply looks better then any racing game period there is only about 100 gameplay videos out now that show that ,stop wasting peoples time.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.da-KGB-

Only blind lemmings and hermits , look at there post history and they have never said a good thing about the PS3 but facts are facts and obviously its a little hard for them to swallow that yes GT5 is in a league of its own when it comes to visuals in a racing game.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.TheSterls

LMAO blind fanboyism for the loss , GT5 simply looks better then any racing game period there is only about 100 gameplay videos out now that show that ,stop wasting peoples time.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"][QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.TheSterls

LMAO blind fanboyism for the loss , GT5 simply looks better then any racing game period there is only about 100 gameplay videos out now that show that ,stop wasting peoples time.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] If something's worth doing, it's worth overdoing :Pwindsquid9000

LMAO blind fanboyism for the loss , GT5 simply looks better then any racing game period there is only about 100 gameplay videos out now that show that ,stop wasting peoples time.

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

LMAO blind fanboyism for the loss , GT5 simply looks better then any racing game period there is only about 100 gameplay videos out now that show that ,stop wasting peoples time.

da-KGB-

I know it looks great for a console game, but TheSterls seems to be under the impression that it destroys every racer on every platform (including the PC).

btw, the highlighted features are true for all versions, and I forgot to add particle variety/physics.

[QUOTE="Snagal123"]

So this confirms Dirt 2 is the best looking racing game on all platforms.

Santesyu

Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.LookAnDrolL

[QUOTE="da-KGB-"][QUOTE="windsquid9000"]3D trees that flow in the wind, destructible environments, deferred lighting, exponentially better shadowing (color and sharpness varies greatly depending on the lighting conditions), vehicle reflections that reflect everything (all elements of the environment, the crowd, the opposing cars, the reflections of the opposing cars, etc.), far superior damage modeling, more detailed environments (technically speaking),visual tire deformation, polygonal crowds, and so on... GT5 wins in car models, though (as far as polygons are concerned)

windsquid9000

I know it looks great for a console game, but TheSterls seems to be under the impression that it destroys every racer on every platform (including the PC).

btw, the highlighted features are true for all versions, and I forgot to add particle variety/physics.

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]Dirt 2 is not even needed, GRID already looks better than GT5.Kokuro_Kun

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] If something's worth doing, it's worth overdoing :Pwindsquid9000

LMAO blind fanboyism for the loss , GT5 simply looks better then any racing game period there is only about 100 gameplay videos out now that show that ,stop wasting peoples time.

The lighting in Grid and Dirt looks overused and a bit ridiculous the lighting in GT5 looks far more realstic and you're assement of damaged modeling isnt really accurate of GT5 as it isnt out . GT5 also features very realistic reflections along with better textures . Also the crowds if i remeber correctly even from the demo in GT5 used polygons.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="windsquid9000"] If something's worth doing, it's worth overdoing :PLookAnDrolL

LMAO blind fanboyism for the loss , GT5 simply looks better then any racing game period there is only about 100 gameplay videos out now that show that ,stop wasting peoples time.

Its going to be painfully obvious to you in a few month's but you can deny it all you want its not like you ever planed on playing it anyways.

Whats crazy to me is, people think GT5 will be somr graphics king. The Ps3 still only has 512mb of ram, there is no way in hell, that Gt5 will look bettrr the dirt2 pc, just no way I honestly dont think it is possible due to hardware contraints. IMO The GT is already outdated, many great racing games have came and gone sice its hayday

Whats crazy to me is, people think GT5 will be somr graphics king. The Ps3 still only has 512mb of ram, there is no way in hell, that Gt5 will look bettrr the dirt2 pc, just no way I honestly dont think it is possible due to hardware contraints. IMO The GT is already outdated, many great racing games have came and gone sice its hayday

Advid-Gamer

Um it is possible and it becomes painfully obvious in pretty much every video yous se. Dirt 2 on pc is just a console port with added assets and no the diffrences between the two versions is not vast. GT5 is a exclusive belt from the ground up with a much lager budget.

The lighting in Grid and Dirt looks overused and a bit ridiculous the lighting in GT5 looks far more realstic

That's your opinion on the styIe of the lighting. The quality is superior.

and you're assement of damaged modeling isnt really accurate of GT5 as it isnt out.

According to ISR's coverage of GT5, vehicle damage is limited and you can't even total your car.

GT5 also features very realistic reflections

The reflections are decent, but they don't seem to reflect as much and they're of a lower resolution.

along with better textures.

GT5's textures are just decent and at times are poor.

Also the crowds if i remeber correctly even from the demo in GT5 used polygons.

You are correct

TheSterls

[QUOTE="bryn8150"]

you have a point, its not a helicopter sim, but werent we promised graphics that rivaled, or were better than reality?

isnt this the game that was going to blow forza away graphically.

sorry but with the exception of highly detailed cars i was expecting more than cardboard cut-out trees in the year 2010?.

people who were expecting graphices that were better than reality need to be made aware of this thats all.

SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="bryn8150"]

you have a point, its not a helicopter sim, but werent we promised graphics that rivaled, or were better than reality?

isnt this the game that was going to blow forza away graphically.

sorry but with the exception of highly detailed cars i was expecting more than cardboard cut-out trees in the year 2010?.

people who were expecting graphices that were better than reality need to be made aware of this thats all.

supra_800hp

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Whats crazy to me is, people think GT5 will be somr graphics king. The Ps3 still only has 512mb of ram, there is no way in hell, that Gt5 will look bettrr the dirt2 pc, just no way I honestly dont think it is possible due to hardware contraints. IMO The GT is already outdated, many great racing games have came and gone sice its hayday

TheSterls

Um it is possible and it becomes painfully obvious in pretty much every video yous se. Dirt 2 on pc is just a console port with added assets and no the diffrences between the two versions is not vast. GT5 is a exclusive belt from the ground up with a much lager budget.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Whats crazy to me is, people think GT5 will be somr graphics king. The Ps3 still only has 512mb of ram, there is no way in hell, that Gt5 will look bettrr the dirt2 pc, just no way I honestly dont think it is possible due to hardware contraints. IMO The GT is already outdated, many great racing games have came and gone sice its hayday

Um it is possible and it becomes painfully obvious in pretty much every video yous se. Dirt 2 on pc is just a console port with added assets and no the diffrences between the two versions is not vast. GT5 is a exclusive belt from the ground up with a much lager budget.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Um it is possible and it becomes painfully obvious in pretty much every video yous se. Dirt 2 on pc is just a console port with added assets and no the diffrences between the two versions is not vast. GT5 is a exclusive belt from the ground up with a much lager budget.

gaming25

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"] K, NP we will see there is no use of us arguing now. I have been a console gamer my whole life, I got a gaming pc maybe 1.5 years ago now, Once you have had a gaming rig for a while, console graphic discussions even though I was a console gamer become a joke. People that know nothing about hardware still think the ps3 does miracles, sorry but there are no miracles only optimization and that can only go so far.Advid-Gamer

Um no you are just a fanboy and the statement in bold kind ofproves that. Regardless facts are facts and there is no racing game on pc that currently holds a candle to GT5.

http://e3.gamespot.com/best-of-e3-2010/special-achievement/index.html?page=2

It looks like relaible sources may agree with me.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

Whats crazy to me is, people think GT5 will be somr graphics king. The Ps3 still only has 512mb of ram, there is no way in hell, that Gt5 will look bettrr the dirt2 pc, just no way I honestly dont think it is possible due to hardware contraints. IMO The GT is already outdated, many great racing games have came and gone sice its hayday

Advid-Gamer

Um it is possible and it becomes painfully obvious in pretty much every video yous se. Dirt 2 on pc is just a console port with added assets and no the diffrences between the two versions is not vast. GT5 is a exclusive belt from the ground up with a much lager budget.

Um ive had a GTX285 since may of last year. I think that qualifes my rig as a gaming rig. Are there pc games that look better then console titles? Absoultely but to think that every pc game looks better just because its on pc simply isnt true and i have my own eyes to verify that time and time again. I give credit where credit is due and GT5 is simply the best looking racing game on the market.

Find me GT5 screenshots, not bullshots that have an environment that looks as detailed as this. I will admit that the car models in GT5 do look better, but thats all it has going for it, and the car models in DiRT 2 are not that far behind. The last screenshot also show how good the reflections of the world are on the car. DiRT 2 looks better and this is only DX9.

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Um it is possible and it becomes painfully obvious in pretty much every video yous se. Dirt 2 on pc is just a console port with added assets and no the diffrences between the two versions is not vast. GT5 is a exclusive belt from the ground up with a much lager budget.

TheSterls

Um ive had a GTX285 since may of last year. I think that qualifes my rig as a gaming rig. Are there pc games that look better then console titles? Absoultely but to think that every pc game looks better just because its on pc simply isnt true and i have my own eyes to verify that time and time again. I give credit where credit is due and GT5 is simply the best looking racing game on the market.

2. As I explained earlier, pretty much everything in DiRT 2 and GRID is of a higher quality than corresponding elements in GT5. You can't tell me all of that means nothing because GT5's cars have more polygons and the lights illuminate the dust kicked up by cars.

3. Multiple people sharing an opinion doesn't make it a fact (referring to your previous post).

[QUOTE="Jesus_on_fire"]

Uhh those screens look actually pretty good in my eyes, I guess i have the brain damage. The only thing that looks bad in those screens is a few cases of low quality shadows and textures in the background.

So i take it everybody thinks Polyphony should spend all their time and resources focusing on making the background look really nice? :roll:

windsquid9000

But all the cool kids are doin' it.

What version is that?

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="bryn8150"]

you have a point, its not a helicopter sim, but werent we promised graphics that rivaled, or were better than reality?

isnt this the game that was going to blow forza away graphically.

sorry but with the exception of highly detailed cars i was expecting more than cardboard cut-out trees in the year 2010?.

people who were expecting graphices that were better than reality need to be made aware of this thats all.

supra_800hp

It looks great, but not the technical powerhouse it was once claimed. Looks like an average car game graphically now. I mean, even PGR4 looks comparable:

GT5 looks amazing for consoles, and it looks far better than any pc game running on any 4 year old$300 computer :P

Gosh, you guys mean the PS3, even with all the support Sony can give, isn't a super computer capable of real-life graphics? Well haha to all those that thought it would look anything like the bullshots and well done to those who knew what to expect and aren't dissapointed.

Fact 1 - DiRT 2 on PC running max details (DX11) at 1920 x 1080 (1080p) native blows any console racer you will see this gen out of the water.

Fact 2 - Details on cars has nothing to do with the technicl graphical achievement and so is irrelevant when discussing technical graphics. It is however part of the artstyle andshould bediscussed as such.

Fact 3 - Dress it up as you will but those screens are not as impressive as anything we have seen so far from the PD marketing team.

Even so this will be a great game i'm sure but the wait and cost certainly isn't justified in the graphics.

Gosh, you guys mean the PS3, even with all the support Sony can give, isn't a super computer capable of real-life graphics? Well haha to all those that thought it would look anything like the bullshots and well done to those who knew what to expect and aren't dissapointed.

Fact 1 - DiRT 2 on PC running max details (DX11) at 1920 x 1080 (1080p) native blows any console racer you will see this gen out of the water.

Fact 2 - Details on cars has nothing to do with the technicl graphical achievement and so is irrelevant when discussing technical graphics. It is however part of the artstyle andshould bediscussed as such.

Fact 3 - Dress it up as you will but those screens are not as impressive as anything we have seen so far from the PD marketing team.

Even so this will be a great game i'm sure but the wait and cost certainly isn't justified in the graphics.

Gosh, you guys mean the PS3, even with all the support Sony can give, isn't a super computer capable of real-life graphics? Well haha to all those that thought it would look anything like the bullshots and well done to those who knew what to expect and aren't dissapointed.

Fact 1 - DiRT 2 on PC running max details (DX11) at 1920 x 1080 (1080p) native blows any console racer you will see this gen out of the water.

Fact 2 - Details on cars has nothing to do with the technicl graphical achievement and so is irrelevant when discussing technical graphics. It is however part of the artstyle andshould bediscussed as such.

Fact 3 - Dress it up as you will but those screens are not as impressive as anything we have seen so far from the PD marketing team.

Even so this will be a great game i'm sure but the wait and cost certainly isn't justified in the graphics.

Gran Turismo 5 looks great.Its nothing special in terms of poly count,i would even say that Forza 3 has higher but their lighting is second to none thats why it looks so realistic.

[QUOTE="1080pOnly"]

Gosh, you guys mean the PS3, even with all the support Sony can give, isn't a super computer capable of real-life graphics? Well haha to all those that thought it would look anything like the bullshots and well done to those who knew what to expect and aren't dissapointed.

Fact 1 - DiRT 2 on PC running max details (DX11) at 1920 x 1080 (1080p) native blows any console racer you will see this gen out of the water.

Fact 2 - Details on cars has nothing to do with the technicl graphical achievement and so is irrelevant when discussing technical graphics. It is however part of the artstyle andshould bediscussed as such.

Fact 3 - Dress it up as you will but those screens are not as impressive as anything we have seen so far from the PD marketing team.

Even so this will be a great game i'm sure but the wait and cost certainly isn't justified in the graphics.

tommyas

I can and I just did. Not my fault PD took sooooo long to get this game out that 3 entire generations of PC hardware have surpassed it. My thoughts are that if you are going to make 'photo-realism' claims for your game and you want to tell me its the best looking racer ever then you better well be right. This time they were wrong and should be pulled up on it.

Have we all forgoten that GT5 is a Driving simulator and not a tree simulator? Do people really stop in the middle of a race to count leaves?

When I look at GT5 vs any other race I look at the cars, interiors of the cars and the track itself, mainly because that's what I'll be zooming by all the time.

But I guess Foliage really matters to a lot of people here.