IGN: Revengence will ruin Metal Gear Solid.

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#1 BigBoss255
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http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/121/1214596p1.html

Discuss.

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#2 ActionRemix
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Kojima really wants to get out of the series, as evidenced by MGS4 closing all loose ends...and Revengeance.
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#3 foxhound_fox
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Spin. Off.
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#4 funsohng
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Not. Even. Metal. Gear. Solid. Game. Geez....
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#5 peterw007
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That's like saying Mario Tennis will ruin the core Mario games.

It's completely nonsensical.

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#6 DrTrafalgarLaw
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lolIGN :lol:

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#7 mccoyca112
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Its ign so people don't care what they say. I agree that the...mindset of mg might change with people. I mean it could for me. Why think of snake or bigboss as the ultimate badass, when raiden can manhandle rays without breaking a sweat? Then again...people now enjoy mega over the top stuff like this; Not that mgs was ever a far cry away from that feel.

And in truth, that guy is even more butthurt than I(honestly) was. The article just reeks of bitterness

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#8 Naylord
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The IGN article sums up how I feel completely.

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#9 Bread_or_Decide
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A little dramatic about this game BURYING the franchise. Good grief man. RELAX. I can see what he says about Raiden treating a metal gear like it's nothing but he's wearing a super ninja suit and we assume he can do kick arse stuff with it. This will ensure that the next time Snake faces off against a metal gear he has to bring more to the table.
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#10 IPWNDU2
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The game looks like complete ass I agree

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#11 Bread_or_Decide
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The only problem with Rising is that it looks like they put a Metal Gear skin on top of Bayonetta. I'm tired of swiping at enemies ten times just to kill them. A sword that actually slices would have been refreshing.
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#12 WomanDog
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Same people who said zelda needed to learn 10 things from skyrim, then gave it a 10 and called the best game of the year same with dark souls to skyrim. Cant spell ign without the n

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#13 SteveTabernacle
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How do you overglorified looney tunes characters keep falling for the same old IGN flamebait articles?
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#14 glez13
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Damn, those poor people at IGN must be desperate. They practically write about any random stuff they can think of.

Damn I suppose Mario Strikers ruined the Mario franchise. :roll:

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#15 Bread_or_Decide
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How do you overglorified looney tunes characters keep falling for the same old IGN flamebait articles?SteveTabernacle
It's an opinion piece.
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#16 SteveTabernacle
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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"]How do you overglorified looney tunes characters keep falling for the same old IGN flamebait articles?Bread_or_Decide
It's an opinion piece.

It's a dumbass flamebait article designed to give the site a cheap heat bump in clicks and therefore ad revenue from all the people still not smart enough to use a browser with adblock. Opinions can be stupid, and this one is.
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#17 ShadowMoses900
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It's not actually part of MGS, it's just a side thing. I do have to admit though, I am feeling only so so with Revengence. But we'll wait and see...

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#18 rasengan2552
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This is no different than what Gamespot did with the Zelda review.

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#19 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"]How do you overglorified looney tunes characters keep falling for the same old IGN flamebait articles?SteveTabernacle
It's an opinion piece.

It's a dumbass flamebait article designed to give the site a cheap heat bump in clicks and therefore ad revenue from all the people still not smart enough to use a browser with adblock. Opinions can be stupid, and this one is.

Yep, ^^this man^^ get's it. IGN does this kind of stuff all the time, it's just to earn money from ad revenue and hits. Don't take it seriously people...

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#20 SaltyMeatballs
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Not even gonna click the link. Another one of THOSE articles from IGN :roll:
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#21 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Is revengeance even a word?

Edit: Apparently it is. What a silly sounding word.

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#22 SteveTabernacle
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This is the same site that claims to have journalistic integrity because they called out bethesda for releasing a broken game on PS3, yet gave said broken game a 9.5, and still have that review up even now. Why does anyone even go there?
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#23 Mozelleple112
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Seriously, they are right.

Revengeance trailer: looks like 7.5/10 game

Rising 2010: looks like a 9.5/10 game

MGS4 : 10/10 game

Metal Gear standard: AAA+ for main entries, AA-AAA for spin offs.

Revengeance is a shame on the series.

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#24 SteveTabernacle
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Seriously, they are right.Mozelleple112
Seriously, they are not. IGN is the Rick Perry of gaming websites, ignorant and proud of it.
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#25 ActionRemix
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]Seriously, they are right.SteveTabernacle
Seriously, they are not. IGN is the Rick Perry of gaming websites, ignorant and proud of it.

I don't understand the hate for IGN lol. Just a month ago Zelda drones were bashing Tom McShea because he didn't agree with IGN's claim of Greatest Zelda of ALL TIME.
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#26 SteveTabernacle
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I don't understand the hate for IGN lol..ActionRemix
Then their is nothing I can do for you.
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[QUOTE="Mozelleple112"]Seriously, they are right.SteveTabernacle
Seriously, they are not. IGN is the Rick Perry of gaming websites, ignorant and proud of it.

NEW IGN sucks!!! Old IGN (pre early 2010) was absolutely amazing.
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#28 ycole11
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Same people who said zelda needed to learn 10 things from skyrim, then gave it a 10 and called the best game of the year same with dark souls to skyrim. Cant spell ign without the n

WomanDog

Very true.

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#29 SteveTabernacle
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NEW IGN sucks!!! Old IGN (pre early 2010) was absolutely amazing.Mozelleple112
I hated old IGN as well. Matt by himself made that site unbearably awful.
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#30 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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IGN is prtty much a site that is fanboycentric in how it has become.

The basic concpts of IGN I have nothing agains, but the overall lack of direction or same standards across the platforms, makes it seem like a place run by fanboys, not to mention thier godaweful reviews (granted, it is more a case of the reviewers themselves and not the site, but they shuould have a review standard, the UC3 review has to have gone down as the worst ever review written by someone who was supposedly a professional).

I find it really amuzing how both X-com and Syndicate got completely Butchered, and all IGn could say was "everything changes" it is not bad to reinvent series.

And then they write this for MG Revengence? Yeah double standard much?

When that is all said and done, not many of us knows alot about revengence, and they atleast had the curtisy of making it a spinoff, and not a replacement for the main series. I will wait and see how the game turns out before I cry bloody murder. If it ends up as a mindless hack&slash then I WILL cry it tho.

Seems nearly all the deep and great classical series are being remade as mindbumbing shallow would be games, for the ADHD crowd. pretty much like Hollywood and thier remake mania. In nearly all cases the originals were better in every way.

But for now? its just the weekl IGn flamebait to attract visits, nothing else.

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#31 fabz_95
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It looks awful from the latest trailer but I won't judge it until I play it.
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#32 Wanderer5
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Just more overreacting over a spinoff. And I don't get the complaints about Raiden being able to pick up that Metal Gear Ray. Did they skip the part in MGS4 where Raiden stops Outer Heaven with one hand? There was also that time where he was swinging those gekkos around.

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#33 SteveTabernacle
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Just more overracting over a spinoff. And I don't get the complaints about Raiden being able to pick up that Metal Gear Ray. Did they skip the part in MGS4 where Raiden stops Outer Heaven with one hand? There was also that time where he was swinging those gekkos around.

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Seriously, body slamming a MG Ray is no biggy compared to stopping a super air craft carrier, and that was in a main entry game that he did insane stuff. MGS4 Raiden was super OP, this one is no different.
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#34 The_Pacific
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I agree. Revengance looks so ridiculous. I'd be upset if I were interested in the MGS series..
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#35 razgriz_101
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Is it me or is it just so funny watching the numptys go into meltdown over a spinoff.

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#36 DivineSword  Moderator
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The game looks like crap, though not sure if it will play like crap!

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#37 PatchMaster
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Just more overreacting over a spinoff. And I don't get the complaints about Raiden being able to pick up that Metal Gear Ray. Did they skip the part in MGS4 where Raiden stops Outer Heaven with one hand? There was also that time where he was swinging those gekkos around.

Wanderer5

Hey look, a good point the haters will ignore

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#38 dommeus
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Revengence will not ruin MGS, because it isn't a MGS game. How many times...

EDIT: Besides, MSG4 already ruined MGS.

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#39 chocolate1325
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It's not even part of the main series its a spin off or side game.

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#40 Led_poison
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IGN game score 10
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#41 heretrix
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NO, that's like saying Metal Gear Acid is going to ruin MGS.

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#42 bonesawisready5
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How can it ruin it when it isn't Metal Gear Solid? Geez, IGN should be familiar with spin offs.
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#43 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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http://uk.games.ign.com/articles/121/1214596p1.html

Discuss.

BigBoss255

I think they make a fair enough point, but I laughed when they said the battle's with Metal Gear were highly anticipated and extremely challenging. Aside from MGS1, the battle's with Metal Gear were a joke. In MGS2, Snakeliterally takes out like 20 Metal Gears. And I don't remember any Meal Gear battle from part 3 or 4. So it couldn't have been that epic of exciting.

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#44 Kingpin0114
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I really hope this game does really well. People are not even giving this a chance. Plus it's a spin-off.

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#45 Gxgear
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I respect their right to voice their opinions, even the IGNorant ones.

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#46 NAPK1NS
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The one valid point in there is that this game will innately demote the struggles on Snake. I don't ever remember Snake running on walls on slashing people in tiny pieces. Gosh, Raiden is just so much more badass than Snake
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#47 NAPK1NS
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NO, that's like saying Metal Gear Acid is going to ruin MGS.

heretrix
The one valid point in there is that this game will innately demote the struggles on Snake. I don't ever remember Snake running on walls on slashing people in tiny pieces. "Gosh, Raiden is just so much more badass than Snake." All real MGS players will know that Raiden is a sissy, though. NAPK1NS

NO, that's like saying Metal Gear Acid is going to ruin MGS.

heretrix
... I can definitely tell you didn't actually read the article. He's not arguing that spin-offs ruin series, brah.
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#48 Swift_Boss_A
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News flash to IGNorant site. Metal Gear RISING is not MGS!

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#49 skrat_01
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It's an opinion piece. Also: "The game's concept and gameplay are what will damage the brand." Hah, and they are implying MGS4 had refined, great gameplay? Or that ACID wasn't a odd spinoff card game?
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#50 lamprey263
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it won't ruin MGS, it might make people realize though that they were lying to themselves when they said they liked MGS4