IGN: Revengence will ruin Metal Gear Solid.

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#51 Riverwolf007
Member since 2005 • 26023 Posts

or it could make the game more accessible to new fans that will go back and play the old games.

mgs fanboys don't own the series and the people that do own it are welcome to do anything they want to with it.

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#52 Swift_Boss_A
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The one valid point in there is that this game will innately demote the struggles on Snake. I don't ever remember Snake running on walls on slashing people in tiny pieces. Gosh, Raiden is just so much more badass than Snake NAPK1NS

That's irrelevant. As an MGS fan playing as Raiden wil not make me think any lesser of playing as Snake and his struggle. If people were that naive then chances are they already considered Raiden more bad-ass from the cutscenes in MGS4.

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#53 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]The one valid point in there is that this game will innately demote the struggles on Snake. I don't ever remember Snake running on walls on slashing people in tiny pieces. Gosh, Raiden is just so much more badass than Snake Swift_Boss_A

That's irrelevant. As an MGS fan playing as Raiden wil not make me think any lesser of playing as Snake and his struggle. If people were that naive then chances are they already considered Raiden more bad-ass from the cutscenes in MGS4.

I'm not sure its irrelevant. And I think Raiden's crouching tiger tactics have seen a spruce up since MGS4 - this **** looks crazy. Much more stylized.

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#54 Ballroompirate
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IGN writes some ****** articles

Plus the MGS series has been meh besides MGS1 and MGS3

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#55 Swift_Boss_A
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I'm not sure its irrelevant. And I think Raiden's crouching tiger tactics have seen a spruce up since MGS4 - this **** looks crazy. Much more stylized.

NAPK1NS

I understand but that's why it's not MGS but MGR. One a stealth series the other an action game. Why can't they co-exist? Do gamer play action games and suddenly feel they can't play slower paced games anymore? It's not like the case with DmC where gamers are essentially getting a game in the same genre but slower and sluggish then what they are used to. Kojima didn't deny MGS5 because of the fans but surely the fans should be content with MGS4 and let the Metal Gear series try different genre's now.

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#56 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]

I'm not sure its irrelevant. And I think Raiden's crouching tiger tactics have seen a spruce up since MGS4 - this **** looks crazy. Much more stylized.

Swift_Boss_A

I understand but that's why it's not MGS but MGR. One a stealth series the other an action game. Why can't they co-exist? Do gamer play action games and suddenly feel they can't play slower paced games anymore? It's not like the case with DmC where gamers are essentially getting a game in the same genre but slower and sluggish then what they are used to. Kojima didn't deny MGS5 because of the fans but surely the fans should be content with MGS4 and let the Metal Gear series try different genre's now.

Hey, don't look at me. I agree. Both look cool for different reasons and will likely succeed for different reasons. I was just trying to offer a different flavor of thought beyond, lolIGNsucks.
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#57 Phazevariance
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Seeing as the metal gear solid games were boring, i really don't think it matters. On top of that, a spinoff game can't ruin a main series game.

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#58 xYamatox
Member since 2005 • 5180 Posts

A little dramatic about this game BURYING the franchise. Good grief man. RELAX. I can see what he says about Raiden treating a metal gear like it's nothing but he's wearing a super ninja suit and we assume he can do kick arse stuff with it. This will ensure that the next time Snake faces off against a metal gear he has to bring more to the table.Bread_or_Decide

This is the exact OPPOSITE of what I want in a Metal Gear game. I want stealth, not Metal Gear: Halo Warfare. It's bad enough we're getting Metal Gaiden May Cry, but if this game influences any future core Metal Gear Solid game, my faith in the video game industry will officially be ruined.

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#59 heretrix
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... I can definitely tell you didn't actually read the article. He's not arguing that spin-offs ruin series, brah. NAPK1NS

It's a friggin IGN article, of course I didn't read it.I just typed something so that it wasn't a total waste coming here.

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#60 koospetoors
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The title itself shows that this is just yet another lousy attempt to get attention, reminds of the "Dark Souls kicks Skyrim's ass in every way imaginable" article they did a while back.

Doesn't sound worth reading though...

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#61 BigBoss255
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[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]

Just more overreacting over a spinoff. And I don't get the complaints about Raiden being able to pick up that Metal Gear Ray. Did they skip the part in MGS4 where Raiden stops Outer Heaven with one hand? There was also that time where he was swinging those gekkos around.

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Hey look, a good point the haters will ignore

That's one part of the game and all MGS fans said it was stupid. Why would we want to play a game based on a part we hated?.
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#62 max-Emadness
Member since 2009 • 1781 Posts

That's like saying Mario Tennis will ruin the core Mario games.

It's completely nonsensical.

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i agree
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#63 meetroid8
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Were we ever expecting to get another stealth oriented MGS game again anyway?
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#64 timmy00
Member since 2006 • 15360 Posts

Isn't that a bit much to say?

Jeez some people are overreacting with Revengence.

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#65 ddlcpc
Member since 2007 • 887 Posts

jst finished watching the interview between kojima and platinum games and honestly not excited about the games as was with the previuos MG.... but still gonna buy the game as a side track until next MGS hopefully by kojim....

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#66 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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I'm not sure about this game ruining the franchise but I certainly agree with the part about all of Snakes efforts and achievements over the course of all the games have been made to look like childs play compared to Raiden that can now flip a Metal Gear Ray over his head and slice through it like butter. A god mode character like that doesn't really fit in the universe of MGS.

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#67 DarkLink77
Member since 2004 • 32731 Posts

MGS was ruined with MGS4. People need to stop whining about Rising and move the f*ck on.

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#68 travisstaggs
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MGS was ruined with MGS4. People need to stop whining about Rising and move the f*ck on.

DarkLink77
Exactly what I was about to say.
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#69 LustForSoul
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There's no Solid in the game and has barely anything to do with MGS. Raiden had like one cutscene in the whole goddamn series. How could anyone agree to that? Also, Platinumgames are one of the best japanese devs. There's no way they will screw this up. SPIN OFF.
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#70 NoirLamia
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It won't ruin MGS because it is MGR, not MGS ;)

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#71 Goyoshi12
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Of course it will! I mean, it's not like Revengence is a spin off or a completely different take on the Metal Gear series than it's MGS counterpart so of course it will affect the tride and true series that fans have loved over the years that it does not even coincide with. -___-

IGN needs to get their head out of their @$$ before I shove my foot up it. :evil:

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#72 finalfantasy94
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nope for some simple easy to understand reasons. Its a spin off so its meant to feel different. Its not meant to represent the core mechanics from the main series.In other words its meant to be its own thing just able to be in the same universe with the worlds characters. Its being handeld by devs who are known to give good games at least to some. I mean for all I didint like bayonetta I still liked the gameplay.

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#73 finalfantasy94
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MGS was ruined with MGS4. People need to stop whining about Rising and move the f*ck on.

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agree execpt the MGS4 comment loved the game second best mgs imo. I dont get why people dont get what the hell a spin off is. Without spin offs things like mario tennis,kart and paper mario would never ever exist.