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#51 horrowhip
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If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

bignice12

I personaly didn't say it was "so bad". But you cant deny that with a KB/M you can play an RTS much more effeciently w/ hot keys and stuff. Not to mention that WIC is shipping with an SDK and map editor, so we will have a huge variety in mods and maps.

Basically what i'm saying is PC is dominant for RTS games and 360 version is nowhere close to it.

Yeah, well catlin has never played a PC RTS so he wouldn't know and he is just trying to defend his system.

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#52 Chaos_HL21
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If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

LOTR:BFME2 PC - 8.3

LOTR:BFME2 X360 - 8.3

Command & Conquer 3 PC - 9.0

Command & Conquer 3 X360 - 8.7

catlin_czirr

I think RTS can work on the 360 (and can be good), but are better on the PC because they are meant to be played with a keyboard and mouse.

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#53 tag_001
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If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

LOTR:BFME2 PC - 8.3

LOTR:BFME2 X360 - 8.3

Command & Conquer 3 PC - 9.0

Command & Conquer 3 X360 - 8.7

catlin_czirr

Anyone who has ever played RTS games in there life knows it controls better on PC than on consoles even though they are still doing a decent job of porting them over.

Just look at Pros playing Starcraft and try to explain to me how it would be possible on consoles. RTS are still really good on consoles nowadays but you have to be pretty fanboish to ignore the fact that a M&Kb is just way better for RTS just like controllers are way better for fighting games.

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#54 catlin_czirr
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[QUOTE="bignice12"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

horrowhip

I personaly didn't say it was "so bad". But you cant deny that with a KB/M you can play an RTS much more effeciently w/ hot keys and stuff. Not to mention that WIC is shipping with an SDK and map editor, so we will have a huge variety in mods and maps.

Basically what i'm saying is PC is dominant for RTS games and 360 version is nowhere close to it.

Yeah, well catlin has never played a PC RTS so he wouldn't know and he is just trying to defend his system.

Uhhh I have company of heroes installed on my PC as we speak, a great game.
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#55 Zeliard9
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Haha, I like their summaries for the game:

9.5 Presentation
Hmm, we're trying to think of one area in which the game's presentation isn't faultless. Ok, so maybe the watercolour slides won't be to everybody's liking.

9.5 Graphics
This game is bound to sell at least a million high end video cards. Eye-watering. Gorgeous. Even better, it scales well!

9.0 Sound
Great moody music with awesome sound effects. The unit chatter when you zoom right in is a great touch.

9.0 Gameplay
Revolutionary RTS action - fast, immersive yet still deep, provided you crank the difficulty up.

9.5 Lasting Appeal
Ten hours for the singleplayer campaign, and years of online action ahead.IGN

Sounds good. The demo is great. I'm glad to see the full version apparently doesn't let up on the greatness.

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#56 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="bignice12"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

catlin_czirr

I personaly didn't say it was "so bad". But you cant deny that with a KB/M you can play an RTS much more effeciently w/ hot keys and stuff. Not to mention that WIC is shipping with an SDK and map editor, so we will have a huge variety in mods and maps.

Basically what i'm saying is PC is dominant for RTS games and 360 version is nowhere close to it.

Yeah, well catlin has never played a PC RTS so he wouldn't know and he is just trying to defend his system.

Uhhh I have company of heroes installed on my PC as we speak, a great game.

Ok.... instal C&C3 and then compare the PC to the 360 version. The PC version handles much much better. It's not that its "bad" on the 360, its just nowhere near as good.

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#57 JTH_22
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This game's been on my radar for awhile but I wasn't planning on buying it because I like RTS on the PC better but my computer can't handle the newer RTS too well so I may end up getting this for my 360if it keeps getting positive marks.
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#58 Lonelynight
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="bignice12"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

catlin_czirr

I personaly didn't say it was "so bad". But you cant deny that with a KB/M you can play an RTS much more effeciently w/ hot keys and stuff. Not to mention that WIC is shipping with an SDK and map editor, so we will have a huge variety in mods and maps.

Basically what i'm saying is PC is dominant for RTS games and 360 version is nowhere close to it.

Yeah, well catlin has never played a PC RTS so he wouldn't know and he is just trying to defend his system.

Uhhh I have company of heroes installed on my PC as we speak, a great game.

Then how would it work on a console? That game needs serious micro maneging

and on topic, I don't see why they say revolutionize RTS, its gameplay is similar to Ground Control 2 right? Correct me if I'm wrong

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#59 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="bignice12"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

Lonelynight

I personaly didn't say it was "so bad". But you cant deny that with a KB/M you can play an RTS much more effeciently w/ hot keys and stuff. Not to mention that WIC is shipping with an SDK and map editor, so we will have a huge variety in mods and maps.

Basically what i'm saying is PC is dominant for RTS games and 360 version is nowhere close to it.

Yeah, well catlin has never played a PC RTS so he wouldn't know and he is just trying to defend his system.

Uhhh I have company of heroes installed on my PC as we speak, a great game.

Then how would it work on a console? That game needs serious micro maneging

and on topic, I don't see why they say revolutionize RTS, its gameplay is similar to Ground Control 2 right? Correct me if I'm wrong

It is...but I think they were refering to the online portion of the game there.

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#60 InsaneBasura
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It will always be best on 360 no matter how much hermits pay for their video card, extra RAM, etc. 360 has achievements.

JiveT

Stop it with the joke posts!

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#61 horrowhip
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part of the awesomeness of this game is also the Observation Mode in Multiplayer. The game picks cinematic camera angles at the points of interest to create an amazing viewing experience. It is literally fun to watch this game.

Oh and these.....

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#62 Zeliard9
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Then how would it work on a console? That game needs serious micro maneging

and on topic, I don't see why they say revolutionize RTS, its gameplay is similar to Ground Control 2 right? Correct me if I'm wrong

Lonelynight

Company of Heroes would be tough to make for consoles, not only because of the micromanagement, but also because it's also a true graphical beast. Would probably need a downgrade in that area. But console gamers are getting a Warhammer RTS, which should end up being quite good.

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#63 Lonelynight
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It is...but I think they were refering to the online portion of the game there.

cobrax75

Ok, thanks

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#64 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="bignice12"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"]

If RTS games are SOOO bad on 360 then explain this to me?

Zeliard9

I personaly didn't say it was "so bad". But you cant deny that with a KB/M you can play an RTS much more effeciently w/ hot keys and stuff. Not to mention that WIC is shipping with an SDK and map editor, so we will have a huge variety in mods and maps.

Basically what i'm saying is PC is dominant for RTS games and 360 version is nowhere close to it.

Yeah, well catlin has never played a PC RTS so he wouldn't know and he is just trying to defend his system.

Uhhh I have company of heroes installed on my PC as we speak, a great game.

Then how would it work on a console? That game needs serious micro maneging

and on topic, I don't see why they say revolutionize RTS, its gameplay is similar to Ground Control 2 right? Correct me if I'm wrong

Company of Heroes would be tough to make for consoles, not only because of the micromanagement, but also because it's also a true graphical beast. Would probably need a downgrade in that area. But console gamers are getting a Warhammer RTS, which should end up being quite good.

their getting the "other" warhammer RTS...not the 40k series from Relic.....

basiclly they are getting the bad one.

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#65 XlpranksterlX
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Glad for this game.
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#66 Zero_Fate_
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part of the awesomeness of this game is also the Observation Mode in Multiplayer. The game picks cinematic camera angles at the points of interest to create an amazing viewing experience. It is literally fun to watch this game.

Oh and these.....

horrowhip

lol VRAM overload.

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#67 Lonelynight
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But console gamers are getting a Warhammer RTS, which should end up being quite good.

Zeliard9

What game?

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#68 JTH_22
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]

Then how would it work on a console? That game needs serious micro maneging

and on topic, I don't see why they say revolutionize RTS, its gameplay is similar to Ground Control 2 right? Correct me if I'm wrong

Zeliard9

Company of Heroes would be tough to make for consoles, not only because of the micromanagement, but also because it's also a true graphical beast. Would probably need a downgrade in that area. But console gamers are getting a Warhammer RTS, which should end up being quite good.

I'm keeping an eye on that one myself too. Warhammer: Battle March, I need more money for games :( .

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#69 Zero_Fate_
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

But console gamers are getting a Warhammer RTS, which should end up being quite good.

Lonelynight

What game?

An updated version of Mark of Chaos.

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#70 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]

But console gamers are getting a Warhammer RTS, which should end up being quite good.

Lonelynight

What game?

It's a remake of Mark of Chaos.

Here's more info.

Never played the original Mark of Chaos. Haven't heard great things about it, but I've also never played a poor Warhammer RTS, and I've played all the recent ones.

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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="JiveT"]

best on 360

catlin_czirr

what? how about no. Dx10 + better controls = best on PC.

How about just for a DX10 card = $500 and a 360 = $300....

lol...an 8800GTS will max out this game....and its $250.

Yeah.... but consolites forget the PC hardware prices go down rather quickly. Infact, in November with the release of the 9000 series, the 8800 GTS will cost around $150 and the GTX will cost$200.

Even if it dropps down to $50 your still gonna end up spending more than the cost of a 360 when you add in the other hardware such as a new proc, mobo, PSU, RAM etc.

whether it costs more or not, its still better. stop trying to bring price into this

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#72 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

part of the awesomeness of this game is also the Observation Mode in Multiplayer. The game picks cinematic camera angles at the points of interest to create an amazing viewing experience. It is literally fun to watch this game.

Oh and these.....

Zero_Fate_

lol VRAM overload.

nah.... thats the power of DX10 and the geForce 8800 at work.

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#73 Zero_Fate_
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nah.... thats the power of DX10 and the geForce 8800 at work.

horrowhip

Is that picture maxed?

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#74 coolviper2003
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best on 360

JiveT
Wow, just wow. I hope you're not serious. :roll: If you are then get off your fanboy horse for a moment and acknowledge for at least a moment that the PC version is better.
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#75 Lonelynight
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whether it costs more or not, its still better. stop trying to bring price into this

xboxrox11

Thats probably because the only arguement he can use

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#76 Zeliard9
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their getting the "other" warhammer RTS...not the 40k series from Relic.....

basiclly they are getting the bad one.

cobrax75

Oh damn it's not even the same series. Nevermind then. ;P

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part of the awesomeness of this game is also the Observation Mode in Multiplayer. The game picks cinematic camera angles at the points of interest to create an amazing viewing experience. It is literally fun to watch this game.

Oh and these.....

horrowhip

I had that happen to me once, in the beta I was getting ready to counterattact and retake one CP with my team mates, when I noticed I couldn't see my units any more because of smoke, I zoomed out to see the best looking mushroom cloud I seen in a game. Only problem was my units were not turned to dust and lost the match. But it was one of the best way to go (out with a bang)

One thing I love about the game is the trailers. I love the Magnum PI and the GC 2007 one (with a battle in New York).

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#78 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

nah.... thats the power of DX10 and the geForce 8800 at work.

Zero_Fate_

Is that picture maxed?

it may be.... It's also an old build.

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#79 smokeydabear076
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Wow that is higher than I had anticipated.
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#80 cobrax75
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

nah.... thats the power of DX10 and the geForce 8800 at work.

Zero_Fate_

Is that picture maxed?

its deffinelty not DX10....

DX10 is noticably better....mostly cause of the light beams.

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#81 horrowhip
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Here is another nuke Picture from May 9, 2006

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#82 Lief_Ericson
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Damn my comp will never run this looks like i'll have to wait until Howie's gets it and just play it there
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#83 user_nat
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I expect it to get 8.5 here.. I didn't particularly like the beta.
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#84 Zero_Fate_
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[QUOTE="Zero_Fate_"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

nah.... thats the power of DX10 and the geForce 8800 at work.

cobrax75

Is that picture maxed?

its deffinelty not DX10....

DX10 is noticably better....mostly cause of the light beams.

The smoke looks better and the lighting but thats about the only difference.

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#85 smokeydabear076
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Oh, it is a 9.3 not a 9.4 still a surprise though.
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#86 cobrax75
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Oh, it is a 9.3 not a 9.4 still a surprise though.smokeydabear076

different reviews apparently....there are 2 up their now.

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#87 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]Oh, it is a 9.3 not a 9.4 still a surprise though.cobrax75

different reviews apparently....there are 2 up their now.

yeah.... They put up their AU review and their US review on the same URL on accident and then changed them.

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#88 Zeliard9
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World in Conflict in DX10 (remember these aren't even in full resolution):

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As the PC continues it's winning streak, Hermits everywhere wonder why console sheep still think that the PC is dying....
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#90 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="JiveT"]

best on 360

cobrax75

what? how about no. Dx10 + better controls = best on PC.

How about just for a DX10 card = $500 and a 360 = $300....

lol...an 8800GTS will max out this game....and its $250.

Wheres is it 250 at?Cheapest ive seen is 280 on newegg,260 after rebate.
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#91 horrowhip
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As the PC continues it's winning streak, Hermits everywhere wonder why console sheep still think that the PC is dying....mikemil828

meh... we gave up wondering. We just don't care anymore.

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#92 waynehead895
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best on 360

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I'm a lem and that's just wrong.

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#93 WhySoCry
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="catlin_czirr"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="JiveT"]

best on 360

catlin_czirr

what? how about no. Dx10 + better controls = best on PC.

How about just for a DX10 card = $500 and a 360 = $300....

lol...an 8800GTS will max out this game....and its $250.

Yeah.... but consolites forget the PC hardware prices go down rather quickly. Infact, in November with the release of the 9000 series, the 8800 GTS will cost around $150 and the GTX will cost$200.

Even if it dropps down to $50 your still gonna end up spending more than the cost of a 360 when you add in the other hardware such as a new proc, mobo, PSU, RAM etc.

And play the inferior version? LOGIC PEOPLE, LOGIC.

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#94 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="mikemil828"]As the PC continues it's winning streak, Hermits everywhere wonder why console sheep still think that the PC is dying....horrowhip

meh... we gave up wondering. We just don't care anymore.

I remember them saying it back when the N64 came out. PC gaming will not die.

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#95 Nova_Mongoose
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So according to IGN

MP3>WIC?

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#96 funnymario
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I want my gaming PC now :evil:
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#97 horrowhip
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So according to IGN

MP3>WIC?

Nova_Mongoose

man that statement was just pointless... MP3 got a 9.7

That means that 99% of games are gonna score less than it. 9.3 is still great and MP3 is a great game.

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#98 Wasdie  Moderator
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I will be buying that game the day it comes out. I should preorder it now...
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#99 cobrax75
Member since 2007 • 8389 Posts

I will be buying that game the day it comes out. I should preorder it now...Wasdie

you should...the preorder version has a piece of the berlin wall in the box.

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#100 JiveT
Member since 2005 • 8619 Posts

This game is not exclusive to hermits. The superior 360 version should be here before the first snowfall. Achievements and all.