IGN Review:Tales of symphonia:Dawn of the New World

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#1 KingBowser91
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Closing Comments
Wii gamers desperate for a role-playing game, particularly those that enjoyed the first Symphonia, might be able to overlook Dawn of the New World's tired gameplay and convoluted story. This was made for those fans and they probably decided long ago to get this sequel. But games have moved beyond these linear adventures. I can't think of much here to recommend to anyone new to this series. The real-time battle system is fun, but slogging through hours and hours of awkward dialogue in an on-rails undertaking isn't. Dawn's visuals are sufficient, but don't look like anything that couldn't have been done on the GameCube. Being the only RPG on the Wii's horizon, this doesn't feel like a relief -- it feels rather depressing.

6.5-Presentation
The menus and overworld map look great, but the original Japanese suffers greatly in its translation to English, making most of the story and dialogue a big mess.

7.0-Graphics
Again, the menus and maps are presented really well, but the in-game graphics are nothing we didn't see on the GameCube. Some of the character animations are good.

5.5-Sound
The original Japanese voice track probably would have been easier to listen to, as the English translation hardly makes sense, anyway. At best, the music is forgettable -- at worst, it's aggravating.

6.5-Gameplay
The real-time battles can be fun, but everything else from the linear quests to the monster hunting feels dated. Haven't we played this game, oh, 100 times before?

7.0-Lasting Appeal
Dawn of the New World is a very long adventure, and there are some extras waiting for you once you've completed it.

6.7-OVERALL

http://wii.ign.com/articles/928/928479p1.html

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#2 tOtalPWNaAe
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flop flop flopty flop:P:P

this game looks good but the score is low

how much did the first score???

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#3 Zenkuso
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Tales of the Abyss was the last tales game I liked, versperia was nice but the characters were terrible.
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#4 bf2nutta
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Is this one of these games where if your a fan of series you'll enjoy it, but if your not it won't interest you at all, In other words this is the game only accesible to fans of the series like Fire Emblam?
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#5 SolidTy
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The original team made Tales of Vesperia, so I'm not too surprised.
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#6 GinoNYC
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What's the hype for it here on SW?
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#7 KingBowser91
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What's the hype for it here on SW? GinoNYC

AA I think.

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#8 GinoNYC
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[QUOTE="GinoNYC"]What's the hype for it here on SW? KingBowser91

AA I think.


.......:D
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#9 KungfuKitten
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Sounds like they dropped the ball on what could/should/would have been amazing.
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Im torn here, I want to rent it to check it out and see if it is all that bad or just dated like a lot of Wii games, but I don't really fancy ruining the memory of the first one :?. I must admit I have been worried about the game since they announced it was a sequel to the Symphonia universe instead of a new world altogether.
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Im torn here, I want to rent it to check it out and see if it is all that bad or just dated like a lot of Wii games, but I don't really fancy ruining the memory of the first one :?. I must admit I have been worried about the game since they announced it was a sequel to the Symphonia universe instead of a new world altogether.SapSacPrime

Well apparently the translation is the biggest culprit. And there have been very few improvements. Imo it sounds like the translation, load times, lack of animation and freedom were all unnecesary. To be fair most those things were part of the first one too but yeah they could have done something about it the reviewer is right about that. Sounds like another Fire Emblem. That game was not optimized either and only got away with it because it was so solid.
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#12 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="GinoNYC"]What's the hype for it here on SW? KingBowser91

AA I think.

there never was any hype when it comes to a score

Just some talk about the score it got from Japan of 34/40, I think that is what it was

Anyways this really upsets me I really enjoied the first and have been looking forward to the sequel....I will still end up getting it though

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#13 jg4xchamp
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Im really ticked....i liked symphonia.....i might rent it to see if i will enjoy it enough to buy it.
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#14 HarlockJC
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From IGN's podcast: 

 

Tales of Symphonia

- Daemon's reviewing the game, says fans of the first game will like it
- Nothing new or original about it
- Bozon thinks it didn't click like the first Tales game
- No overworld, just clicking around
- Slower combat
- Daemon enjoyed the combat, but it's very linear
- Main character is winy, always complains

 

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#15 mdisen2
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[QUOTE="KingBowser91"]

[QUOTE="GinoNYC"]What's the hype for it here on SW? GinoNYC

AA I think.


.......:D

I don't think ANYONE thought this game would get AA. A sure, but not AA. 

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#16 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="KingBowser91"]

[QUOTE="GinoNYC"]What's the hype for it here on SW? HarlockJC

AA I think.

there never was any hype when it comes to a score

Just some talk about the score it got from Japan of 34/40, I think that is what it was

Anyways this really upsets me I really enjoied the first and have been looking forward to the sequel....I will still end up getting it though

No this was about the only "hardcore" game the sheep would hype and yes the hype is AA.

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#17 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="KingBowser91"]

 

AA I think.

Ragnarok1051

there never was any hype when it comes to a score

Just some talk about the score it got from Japan of 34/40, I think that is what it was

Anyways this really upsets me I really enjoied the first and have been looking forward to the sequel....I will still end up getting it though

No this was about the only "hardcore" game the sheep would hype and yes the hype is AA.

Do you have a link? Because I post on here more than most and I can not think of a hype thread. I have seen posts talking about the game but not talking about a hype score. I have not even seen a hype tread on any game for the Wii in a long time. Which is kinda sad because there really is no game expet maybe Animal Crossing big enoght to hype this year. Just seen many threads of showing pictures of games that won't even come out until next year some time.

 

 

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#18 JLF1
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I don't think ANYONE thought this game would get AA. A sure, but not AA.

mdisen2

It was called one of the Wii games to get this fall and the hype comes from ToS. ToS was AA so a lot of Nintendo fans expected this to score the same. It was never officially hyped but that's only because they didn't want threads full "FLOP" claims.

EDIT: I was one of them.
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#19 SapSacPrime
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No this was about the only "hardcore" game the sheep would hype and yes the hype is AA.

Ragnarok1051

Is that just because you say it is? because I have not seen any hype for a score for this game, it just seems like you are dying for an excuse to claim somebody got owned :roll:.

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#20 locopatho
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Wow how sickening. This was the Wii's biggest game for Christmas, imo. O well more to spend on 360 games.
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#21 JLF1
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From IGN's podcast:

 

Tales of Symphonia

- Daemon's reviewing the game, says fans of the first game will like it
- Nothing new or original about it
- Bozon thinks it didn't click like the first Tales game
- No overworld, just clicking around
- Slower combat
- Daemon enjoyed the combat, but it's very linear
- Main character is winy, always complains

 

HarlockJC

Are they trying to make the game generic?
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#22 Oscar-Wilde
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

From IGN's podcast:

 

Tales of Symphonia

- Daemon's reviewing the game, says fans of the first game will like it
- Nothing new or original about it
- Bozon thinks it didn't click like the first Tales game
- No overworld, just clicking around
- Slower combat
- Daemon enjoyed the combat, but it's very linear
- Main character is winy, always complains

 

JLF1


Are they trying to make the game generic?

Besides the no overworld it seems to be a lot like Tales of Phantasia and Tales of Abyss, which imply the series as a whole it's very average and that's about right. 

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Im torn here, I want to rent it to check it out and see if it is all that bad or just dated like a lot of Wii games, but I don't really fancy ruining the memory of the first one :?. I must admit I have been worried about the game since they announced it was a sequel to the Symphonia universe instead of a new world altogether.SapSacPrime
just make a coppy if the old memory
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#24 HarlockJC
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Im torn here, I want to rent it to check it out and see if it is all that bad or just dated like a lot of Wii games, but I don't really fancy ruining the memory of the first one :?. I must admit I have been worried about the game since they announced it was a sequel to the Symphonia universe instead of a new world altogether.SapSacPrime

What is kind of neat is that it works with the old one. There will be extras in the game if you have beat the first one.

 

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#25 AdamPA1006
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Last chance to save my Wii, trading it in now...
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#26 surrealnumber5
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there was never any hype because SW does not let sheep hype. so if you want to claim flop and you are itching to do so kick your self in the rear for not letting sheep state their opinions without massive flaming
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#27 HarlockJC
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there was never any hype because SW does not let sheep hype. so if you want to claim flop and you are itching to do so kick your self in the rear for not letting sheep state their opinions without massive flaming surrealnumber5

there is not enough so called sheep on here left to hype a game or for another group to claim ownage on anyways....Sure some will try but most sheep I think have moved to Unions. 

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#28 beerm_basic
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gutted.

This was the only game on the wii i was keeping my eye on and it looks like i may not bother

"the main character is winy and always complains" - sounds like my dad

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#29 farnham
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Last chance to save my Wii, trading it in now...AdamPA1006
you are aware of the fact that team symphonia is making the next title on the wii exclusively right..? this was just a quickly thrown out sequel.. the next one will be the reall tales wii

 

that sad


GT 7.9 is pretty okay for me.. especially considering its rushed dev cycle 

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#30 EddyPee
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Buh buh t3h IGNorance ;_;

Seriously though, it should have been better, especially as the first ToS was IMO the best of the lot (and my best game of all time).

But it never had any hype, so it seems that the lonely plains of flopland are still only wandered by disgruntled lemmings and bitter cows.

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#31 farnham
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Buh buh t3h IGNorance ;_;

Seriously though, it should have been better, especially as the first ToS was IMO the best of the lot (and my best game of all time).

But it never had any hype, so it seems that the lonely plains of flopland are still only wandered by disgruntled lemmings and bitter cows.

EddyPee

 

its sad really... the reason why this game is not the true symphonia sequel it could have been is that the symphonia team was split in half.. one developed vesperia and the other did dawn of a new world

 

but seriously.. two games simulataneously made and both games in a 7~8 range.. thats not shabby at all..

 

cant wait for the next tales wii game 

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#32 EddyPee
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[QUOTE="EddyPee"]

Buh buh t3h IGNorance ;_;

Seriously though, it should have been better, especially as the first ToS was IMO the best of the lot (and my best game of all time).

But it never had any hype, so it seems that the lonely plains of flopland are still only wandered by disgruntled lemmings and bitter cows.

farnham

its sad really... the reason why this game is not the true symphonia sequel it could have been is that the symphonia team was split in half.. one developed vesperia and the other did dawn of a new world

but seriously.. two games simulataneously made and both games in a 7~8 range.. thats not shabby at all..

cant wait for the next tales wii game

Me neither, hope it's better than this. I mean, ToS is the only Tales game I've ever played, but after I played it, Tales became my favourite series ever (which tells you how I feel about ToS). I might rent this game, to see whether I like it or not; I just don't want my hopes dashed before my eyes ;_;.

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At this point everyone should really not be making fun of the Wii, it's gotten to the point of kicking someone when they're down, this kind of stuff is a worrying trend. It's not really Nintendo's fault, it just seems like so many 3rd party developers "think" games on the Wii should be generic and basically unimproved.

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#34 farnham
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well at least as a fan it has good things

 

- good story (according to GT)

- complex characters (albeit only 2 main characters)

- motion capturing 

- 200 characters to collect  

 

At this point everyone should really not be making fun of the Wii, it's gotten to the point of kicking someone when they're down, this kind of stuff is a worrying trend. It's not really Nintendo's fault, it just seems like so many 3rd party developers "think" games on the Wii should be generic and basically unimproved.

RuprechtMonkey

 

uh the wii is definately not down

 

its the undesputed no.1 in the gaming industry with no sign of slowing down 

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At this point everyone should really not be making fun of the Wii, it's gotten to the point of kicking someone when they're down, this kind of stuff is a worrying trend. It's not really Nintendo's fault, it just seems like so many 3rd party developers "think" games on the Wii should be generic and basically unimproved.

RuprechtMonkey
This...seriously all of the wii bashing threads are doing nothing but beating a dead horse. Yes we know that the wii's line-up for the rest of 08 is pathetic. We don't need a million threads about it.
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#36 VendettaRed07
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dear god wii... Just when i think the situation you are in cant get any worse, it does
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#37 samusarmada
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Disappointing. I enjoyed Symphonia but was only half looking forward to this. I was only going to buy it if it had steller reviews so Im probably going to give it a miss.
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#38 RuprechtMonkey
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[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

At this point everyone should really not be making fun of the Wii, it's gotten to the point of kicking someone when they're down, this kind of stuff is a worrying trend. It's not really Nintendo's fault, it just seems like so many 3rd party developers "think" games on the Wii should be generic and basically unimproved.

farnham

uh the wii is definately not down

its the undesputed no.1 in the gaming industry with no sign of slowing down

In the sales dept? Absoutely, I wasn't saying anything anything about its general popularity, it sells like nothing else and doesn't look to be slowing down anytime soon in that dept - especially with the Holidays around the corner. I don't care about sales personally, though, not sure why you do either.

I was commenting on the quality of the games it has been getting as of late. Instead of turning a blind eye and screaming "Wii is number 1" after every mediocre game released by a 3rd party dev people should start holding these developers accountable for the apparent lack of effort they're putting into their "big" releases.

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Sounds like if you want a decent tales game on wii you're going to have to wait for that mothership Tales game
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#40 KingBowser91
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[QUOTE="RuprechtMonkey"]

At this point everyone should really not be making fun of the Wii, it's gotten to the point of kicking someone when they're down, this kind of stuff is a worrying trend. It's not really Nintendo's fault, it just seems like so many 3rd party developers "think" games on the Wii should be generic and basically unimproved.

Shinobishyguy

This...seriously all of the wii bashing threads are doing nothing but beating a dead horse. Yes we know that the wii's line-up for the rest of 08 is pathetic. We don't need a million threads about it.

so true

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#41 110million
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I called this ages ago, not being made by the main team, plus that horrid voice acting (especially when Tales titles since Abyss have had some of the best) was not going to spell out a good forumla, I liked Symphonia, but after Abyss and Vesperia it felt lacking, so I wasn't too hyped for the sequel.
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#42 CleanPlayer
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I have to get this game, I loved Tales of Symphonia. I don't care what the score is.
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#43 Robio_basic
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Can't say I'm really surprised that "Tales of Generic Game: Dawn of the Same Old Crap" scored what it did. This series is really getting old.

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Yet another game that was good on the Gamecube now have turn bad on the Wii. I was really looking forward to playing Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World on my dorm mate Wii but I guess he won't be getting this after he founds out about it. It is too bad because I dearly love Tales of Symphonia.:(
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#45 Shinobishyguy
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Yet another game that was good on the Gamecube now have turn bad on the Wii.-DarthMaul-

You act like thats the case for every sequal on the wii.

Last I checked SMG > SMS, SSBB is arguable better than Melee, and Metroid prime 3 is better than metroid prime 2.

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#46 KingBowser91
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Yet another game that was good on the Gamecube now have turn bad on the Wii. I was really looking forward to playing Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World on my dorm mate Wii but I guess he won't be getting this after he founds out about it. It is too bad because I dearly love Tales of Symphonia.:( -DarthMaul-

IMO first party games are getting better except Super Paper Mario.

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#47 -TheSecondSign-
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Well now I know to get Vesperia.

So many 360 games. Are PS3 owners feeling as strained and desperate as I am?! :cry:

Farcry 2, Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead, Gears 2, Fable 2, Tales of Vesperia, the Holiday Season has hardly started yet.

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#48 glitchgeeman
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Well I'm a bit divided here. Tales of Symphonia was definitely the best RPG of last gen no contest, and to see the best Tales game of the entire franchise (Abyss, Legendia, and Vesperia only wish they were as good as Symphonia) fail in its sequel is a bit disheartening. Ah well, it was probably made specifically for the fans who wanted a sequel so I'll probably be at least renting, if just to see what happens to my favorite female ninja. :P
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#49 SMR-Venom
Member since 2007 • 6500 Posts

Gametrailers Review: 7.9/10

Perhaps not as bad as people are making it out to be?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/42581.html

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#50 MarloStanfield
Member since 2008 • 2409 Posts

this was so oboviously a flop.

A remixed soundtrack, not made by a main tales team, bad graphics, furries

everything about this game screamed second rate spinoff from day one