IGN s grudge match KZ2 vs Halo 3!

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#101 Floppy_Jim
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Well, they're both great shooters and these comparisons are getting old. I wouldn't call them boring or overrated, I mean, they aren't Final Fantasy games.

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#102 RotaryRX7
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Well no matter what Halo 3 scored better and KZ2 will not even come close to Halo 3 sales. Lets see KZ2 pass 1 billion online games like Halo 3 has. Halo is so much better then KZ2 is so many ways. Halo has a better story- A story for Halo that was able to inspire novels and comic books even. If KZ2 had a bad story it would be a improvement since there was no story. I played through the entire KZ2 game and never once knew why I was attacking their planet. Halo has better Setting in the game- Halo has multiple different areas through out the game from forest, alien , broken down building, and more. KZ2 has pretty much the same look through out the entire game. Halo has better main guy. Master Chief is memorable and has become a game icon. Sev is beyond forgettable. Sev is boring. Halo has better bad guys- There is the flood and the convenant. With those two factions there is multiple models for each. KZ2 is copy and past the same black out fit with red eyes again and again (yawn). Halo has better vehicles- There is so many different vehicles in Halo. Not only that you can car jack them. KZ2 has only one vehicle and it is a tank and even then it has bad controls. Halo has better online- Halo has so much detail and data and stat tracking. Also so much user friendly. I think the online part was KZ2 best part but still not Halo lvl. Graphics technology wise KZ2 wins- KZ2 does win in the graphics area. I could really go one but you get the point. To compare Killzone to Halo is laughable though.rybe1025
To take anything you said as fact is laughable... One word folks, SUBJECTIVE. It's all opinion and preference. FACT is, both are great, successful titles that millions will enjoy. :)
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#103 killerfist
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[QUOTE="killerfist"] No it wasn't implied. How the **** should I know? And yes, you need to put IMO after every ****ing statement. Especially if it's about Halo 3.Aljosa23

No I don't. That totally deflates the purpose of a message board.

If people are that offended by my opinion, why don't they prove me wrong?

I don't need to prove you wrong. It's HALO 3!
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#104 Keltoid
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Well, they're both great shooters and these comparisons are getting old. I wouldn't call them boring or overrated, I mean, they aren't Final Fantasy games.

*Waits for Aljosa23*

Floppy_Jim
I second that. *Waits for Aljosa23 after he gets done with Floppy_Jim*
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#105 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Well, they're both great shooters and these comparisons are getting old. I wouldn't call them boring or overrated, I mean, they aren't Final Fantasy games.

*Waits for Aljosa23*

Keltoid
I second that. *Waits for Aljosa23 after he gets done with Floppy_Jim*

Just because I'm already here...I third that:o
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#106 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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I don't need to prove you wrong. It's HALO 3!killerfist
And I don't need to post IMO. :|

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#107 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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[QUOTE="Keltoid"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Well, they're both great shooters and these comparisons are getting old. I wouldn't call them boring or overrated, I mean, they aren't Final Fantasy games.

*Waits for Aljosa23*

killerfist

I second that. *Waits for Aljosa23 after he gets done with Floppy_Jim*

Just because I'm already here...I third that:o

Final Fantasy is the pinnacle of gaming. It trumps your casualized games like KZ2 and Halo 3. FFXIII will have true next-gen textures, lighting, and non-linear enviornments like your silly lawlz-worthy shooters.

:twisted:

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#108 Keltoid
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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="Keltoid"] I second that. *Waits for Aljosa23 after he gets done with Floppy_Jim*Aljosa23

Just because I'm already here...I third that:o

Final Fantasy is the pinnacle of gaming. It trumps your casualized games like KZ2 and Halo 3. FFXIII will have true next-gen textures, lighting, and non-linear enviornments like your silly lawlz-worthy shooters.

:twisted:

...you forgot "IMO" :lol:
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#109 killerfist
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="killerfist"] Just because I'm already here...I third that:oKeltoid

Final Fantasy is the pinnacle of gaming. It trumps your casualized games like KZ2 and Halo 3. FFXIII will have true next-gen textures, lighting, and non-linear enviornments like your silly lawlz-worthy shooters.

:twisted:

...you forgot "IMO" :lol:

Bah, beat me to it:P
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#110 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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...you forgot "IMO" :lol:Keltoid
Pshh, opinions are for n00bz.

My opinion is fact! :twisted:

Everything I say is my opinion darn it! I don't feel the need to type out "IMO" after every statement. :(

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#111 Keltoid
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[QUOTE="Keltoid"] ...you forgot "IMO" :lol:Aljosa23

Pshh, opinions are for n00bz.

My opinion is fact! :twisted:

Everything I say is my opinion darn it! I don't feel the need to type out "IMO" after every statement. :(

I hear ya loud and clear my friend.
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#112 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Biotic2099"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Biotic2099"] ur telling me good fps's didnt release b4 Halo 3. Since the advent of the fps genre, there werent any amazing fps b4 Halo 3? Games that released around Halo 3s timeline is IRRELEVANT. The bar was still there and Halo 3 performed very well.

Well answer my question. What games did it compete against prior to its release?

irrelevant. The bar was there and Halo 3 did excellent. You seem to ahve an impression that scores can vary if similar games release around the same time. Games are judged based on their own merit. Halo 3 got what it deserved.

The bar was there with what?:. Yeah and if Similar games release around the same time better games can affect other ones scores
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#113 -SAMCRO
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[QUOTE="ermacness"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Both are overrated and boring games.

*Gets Flame Shield*

I'm ready for ya!

Nah KZ2 is really fun IMO and Halos are all the same so i agree with you on that.

There is nothing similar between Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3..

Are you serious??!?!!!:| On the gameplay side, there's little evolution between the three Halos

[/QUOT Are you serious? Halo 1 basic shooter stuff. Halo 2: Dual wield, Energy sword so many differnet weapons, customisable armoe, play as an elite, two seperate storylines, boss battles, better graphics improved vehicles, different enemy, (Brute) longer story mode, extensive banshee use, multiplayer integraed as a vital piece, in game secrets to find and many others. Halo 3, too lazy to list
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#114 Toriko42
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Pretty good but I know Halo 3 is a far superior game to Killzone 2 anyways. I can play Halo anyday.
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#115 Biotic2099
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Biotic2099"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Well answer my question. What games did it compete against prior to its release?

irrelevant. The bar was there and Halo 3 did excellent. You seem to ahve an impression that scores can vary if similar games release around the same time. Games are judged based on their own merit. Halo 3 got what it deserved.

The bar was there with what?:. Yeah and if Similar games release around the same time better games can affect other ones scores

the bar was there with (insert great fps before september 25 2007). God knows you can name at least one. And I personally disagree with the second point. A game is judged on its own merits and not what is released alongside it.
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#116 DragonfireXZ95
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I will say one thing, for Killzone 2 having such a linear environment... The AI sure does suck. I started a campaign on Veteran, and the enemy loves to run out into the open while being fired upon. It's pretty sad. Both of the campaigns aren't all that good, but so far I'm enjoying Killzone 2's campaign more. The multiplayer in KZ2 is looking to be better also.
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#117 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

rorskarch

Where did he say that those were facts? Nice job stating the obvious.

he said "to compare killzone to halo is laughable."... :|

And where is the word fact? :| Im not seeing it. Soo comparing Killzone to halo is laughable to him. End of story. IMO is not needed at the end of every ****ing statement.
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#119 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Biotic2099"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Biotic2099"] irrelevant. The bar was there and Halo 3 did excellent. You seem to ahve an impression that scores can vary if similar games release around the same time. Games are judged based on their own merit. Halo 3 got what it deserved.

You said it had competetion so show me what game? The bar was there with what?:. Yeah and if Similar games release around the same time better games can affect other ones scores

the bar was there with (insert great fps before september 25 2007). God knows you can name at least one. And I personally disagree with the second point. A game is judged on its own merits and not what is released alongside it.

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#120 kidonre
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:lol: that guys name is hilary
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#121 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Immortalzxx"]

Halo 3 is the superior game,

Cows need to get over it and move on now and just be glad that KZ2 didnt flop

Biotic2099

And lems need to get over the fact that not everyone thinks the same.

we realize that the nay sayers are a vocal minority and that the pro halo 3 crowd is in the millions.

hhhhhhsssss, no. no, sorry, that doesnt make any sense. :( sales=quality, my brain hurts :cry:
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#122 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Where did he say that those were facts? Nice job stating the obvious.

AAllxxjjnn

he said "to compare killzone to halo is laughable."... :|

And where is the word fact? :| Im not seeing it. Soo comparing Killzone to halo is laughable to him. End of story. IMO is not needed at the end of every ****ing statement.

no, you are just pointlessly trying to defend him. he is telling other people that to compare the two is laughable. and you shouldnt assume that he it is his opinion. ;) honestly :roll: ....
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#123 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="rorskarch"]

he said "to compare killzone to halo is laughable."... :|

rorskarch

And where is the word fact? :| Im not seeing it. Soo comparing Killzone to halo is laughable to him. End of story. IMO is not needed at the end of every ****ing statement.

no, you are just pointlessly trying to defend him. he is telling other people that to compare the two is laughable. and you shouldnt assume that he it is his opinion. ;) honestly :roll: ....

You shouldn't assume he feels that what he is saying is "fact". Honestly. :roll: The whole putting "IMO" at the end of everything is stupid.

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#124 moose_knuckler
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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Both are overrated and boring games.

*Gets Flame Shield*

I'm ready for ya!

Readys rocket lauchair (what now?) :P. On-topic, I really think it's amazing how we're still able to compare an FPS that heading toward two years old and still able to debate which one is king and I still give the crown to Halo 3, not because I'm not a huge fan of the Killzone series to begin with (lol it is good though don't get me wrong) but the fun that Halo 3 offers after hours upon hours. I do like the amount of heart-pounding moments K2 offer though, it's almost like it never stops until the credits roll or in the lobby of multiplayer.
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#125 Avian005
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It looks like Halo 3 won that grudge match. In some of the catagories, it sounded like the Killzone 2 fan was just making up really lame excuses.

They're both great games, but Halo 3 is superior.

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#126 SpinoRaptor24
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I'd choose Halo 3 over KZ2 anyday. But then again I'm a Halo fanboy.
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#127 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Immortalzxx"]

Halo 3 is the superior game,

Cows need to get over it and move on now and just be glad that KZ2 didnt flop

Biotic2099

And lems need to get over the fact that not everyone thinks the same.

we realize that the nay sayers are a vocal minority and that the pro halo 3 crowd is in the millions.

Uh what? Are you using sales to state the quality of a game.

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#128 barneyalfonso
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i played kz2 for 2 months and got bored of it. I played halo 3 for 1 month and got bored of it. But halo 3 has SP replay value (coop). So halo wins, but both got boring easlily. It's just that halo is the lesser of the 2 boring games.
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#129 ChartTopper93
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Animal-Mother

Story-I should not have to go to outside sources to find something as simple as why I am attacking the alien world. That is just stupid imo to need to read a website or play another game to know what is going on in KZ2. I am not saying the story needs to be the next catcher in the rye but at least a little something would have been nice.

Setting- For me in KZ2 it just all looked the same pretty much. There was no real contrast from one area to the next.

Eniemes- Fine Halo enemies bore you. You have to admit at least Bungie has a variety. There is no variety at all in KZ2.

Main guy- Fine then explain to me w3hat is going to make Sev a icon in gaming like Master Chief. What is so appeling about him then?? I found him dull.

Veihicles- That is not opinion. There is far more vehicles in Halo and offer you more abilites such as car jacking.

Online- Can be opinion which is more fun for a person. It is fact though Halo has far more info for online that KZ2 does not offer and Halo is more user friendly.

To your story point your right in a sense. But Playing the other two games doesnt hurt. Enemies. Well I saw variety In Killzone 2. Sub machine gunners. Snipers, tactitians, Grenadiers. Main guy. Well Master cheif was awesome because he wore a suit of armor. Right? I like sev, because he's not going through the war without anything effecting him. He's feeling the stress of it. Vehicles- Are an opinion it's what you like more. and online your right.

ur going to love Halo ODST then

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#130 themyth01
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It's funny how the guy supposed to be defending KZ2 has to agree that it can't compete against Halo 3 in gameplay.

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#131 krp008
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That was probably one of the worst fanboy flame battles ive ever witnessed... The Halo 3 fanboy has nothing to say about anything and the KZ2 fanboy says everything is better than H3...

IMO. Honestly, it isnt even an opinion, Halo 3's story is leagues ahead of KZ2's and KZ2 shoudnt even be said in the same sentence as H3 in terms of multiplayer. But of course KZ2's graphics are better.

The Halo franchise, time and time again, has proven that it can stand the test of time, and Bungie, time and time again, has proven that they are one of the greatest game developers ever.

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#132 finalfantasy94
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That was probably one of the worst fanboy flame battles ive ever witnessed... The Halo 3 fanboy has nothing to say about anything and the KZ2 fanboy says everything is better than H3...

IMO. Honestly, it isnt even an opinion, Halo 3's story is leagues ahead of KZ2's and KZ2 shoudnt even be said in the same sentence as H3 in terms of multiplayer. But of course KZ2's graphics are better.

The Halo franchise, time and time again, has proven that it can stand the test of time, and Bungie, time and time again, has proven that they are one of the greatest game developers ever.

krp008

Saying Halos 3 story is better then KZ2 isint saying much. Since nethier is all that good in the story department. Also both MP for the games are fun. Halo is more arcady and you can make maps. KZ2 is more grounded and has a deep class system. SO yea you can mention both in the MP department. IN the end both MP are good mainly since both have a different feel to them.

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#133 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] And where is the word fact? :| Im not seeing it. Soo comparing Killzone to halo is laughable to him. End of story. IMO is not needed at the end of every ****ing statement.AAllxxjjnn

no, you are just pointlessly trying to defend him. he is telling other people that to compare the two is laughable. and you shouldnt assume that he it is his opinion. ;) honestly :roll: ....

You shouldn't assume he feels that what he is saying is "fact". Honestly. :roll: The whole putting "IMO" at the end of everything is stupid.

the fact that, again, he said "to compare killzone to halo is laughable." is an obvious indication that he is talking to everyone one else and telling them that they should not be compared because of the sheer difference in quality.
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#134 Rikusaki
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Halo 3 Released in 2007 - 9.5

Killzone 2 Released in 2009 - 9.0

Remember, standards change with time. You simply can not compare the scores directly like that. It's a horrible argument.

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#135 AAllxxjjnn
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Halo 3 Released in 2007 - 9.5

Killzone 2 Released in 2009 - 9.0

Remember, standards change with time. You simply can not compare the scores directly like that. It's a horrible argument.

Rikusaki
They change if anything comes along to up those standards. What upped the standards and how? No FPS on consoles since Halo has managed to even match it's score.
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#136 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

[QUOTE="rorskarch"] no, you are just pointlessly trying to defend him. he is telling other people that to compare the two is laughable. and you shouldnt assume that he it is his opinion. ;) honestly :roll: ....rorskarch

You shouldn't assume he feels that what he is saying is "fact". Honestly. :roll: The whole putting "IMO" at the end of everything is stupid.

the fact that, again, he said "to compare killzone to halo is laughable." is an obvious indication that he is talking to everyone one else and telling them that they should not be compared because of the sheer difference in quality.

So, to HIM people comparing Killzone to Halo is laughable.
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#137 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

Halo 3 Released in 2007 - 9.5

Killzone 2 Released in 2009 - 9.0

Remember, standards change with time. You simply can not compare the scores directly like that. It's a horrible argument.

AAllxxjjnn

They change if anything comes along to up those standards. What upped the standards and how? No FPS on consoles since Halo has managed to even match it's score.

Games don't get high scores like that if they don't bring something new or different to the table. Many great games were released in that time period. They don't have to be just FPS games to be influential to the FPS genre.

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#138 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="djsifer01"] Nah KZ2 is really fun IMO and Halos are all the same so i agree with you on that.ermacness

There is nothing similar between Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3..

Are you serious??!?!!!:| On the gameplay side, there's little evolution between the three Halos

There are many subtle changes that make each game unique.
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#139 jmdude
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Interesting. I'll watch.

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#140 rorskarch
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That was probably one of the worst fanboy flame battles ive ever witnessed... The Halo 3 fanboy has nothing to say about anything and the KZ2 fanboy says everything is better than H3...

IMO. Honestly, it isnt even an opinion, Halo 3's story is leagues ahead of KZ2's and KZ2 shoudnt even be said in the same sentence as H3 in terms of multiplayer. But of course KZ2's graphics are better.

The Halo franchise, time and time again, has proven that it can stand the test of time, and Bungie, time and time again, has proven that they are one of the greatest game developers ever.

krp008

wait, you say this is the worst fanboy argument ever and then you contribute to it with more fanboyism :?

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#141 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] You shouldn't assume he feels that what he is saying is "fact". Honestly. :roll: The whole putting "IMO" at the end of everything is stupid.

AAllxxjjnn

the fact that, again, he said "to compare killzone to halo is laughable." is an obvious indication that he is talking to everyone one else and telling them that they should not be compared because of the sheer difference in quality.

So, to HIM people comparing Killzone to Halo is laughable.

dude, what you are arguing for is so pointless. yes obviously in his mind, to him. i mean, to who else could it be. for HIM to believe other people who compare killzone 2 to halo 3 is laughable and then to say it to everyone means that he sees it as a fact that everyone should accept. i dont even know why youre defending him...

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#142 halflifewinergs
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lol half life 1# says **** halo and killzone2 look at pic is proof http://i44.tinypic.com/15nvtqt.jpg
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#143 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="rorskarch"] the fact that, again, he said "to compare killzone to halo is laughable." is an obvious indication that he is talking to everyone one else and telling them that they should not be compared because of the sheer difference in quality.rorskarch

So, to HIM people comparing Killzone to Halo is laughable.

dude, what you are arguing for is so pointless. yes obviously in his mind, to him. i mean, to who else could it be. for HIM to believe other people who compare killzone 2 to halo 3 is laughable and then to say it to everyone means that he sees it as a fact that everyone should accept. i dont even know why youre defending him...

I'm just saying, pointing out that what he wrote is opinion is pointless because it is completely and utterly obvious. He never claimed anything in his post was fact. It's assumed that he was stating his personal preference. I'm not even defending anything he wrote....
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#144 ahahahefrewrewr
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Ooops wrong pic this is what half life 1# has to say about halo LOL, literally does have **** halo on the wall. http://i41.tinypic.com/nbyucy.jpg
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#145 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

WOW you think a 360 shooter is better then a PS3 shooter what a shocker.

obamanian

I actually think Killzone 2 is one of the worst and most unimaginative shooters i have played in general, on any system

Seems like they should hire some better artists and level designers, than just make a better engine

that title goes to cod4, cod2 with a new paint job. halo3 is like cod4 a short sp game which offers nothing over the previous games and then a great mp game which makes the game worthless to people who don't care for online.
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#146 david_lck
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

WOW you think a 360 shooter is better then a PS3 shooter what a shocker.

obamanian

I actually think Killzone 2 is one of the worst and most unimaginative shooters i have played in general, on any system

Seems like they should hire some better artists and level designers, than just make a better engine

Hm i doubt you have ever played Killzone 2, try finishin the game and play its online mode first before talkin smack about an amazing game. :roll:

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#147 ___gamemaster__
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many dislikes Killzone 2 because of not noob friendly controls and its hard to aim unlike resistance 2 and COD. But its very good though. It is very challenging and fun.

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#148 AHZaahahahetewt
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the ign editor says halo 3 is the number 1 played xbox live game, because it's a good game, no it's the most played because xbox360 lacks good exclusive first person shooters. halo 3's about only one of the only halfway decent, but totally ruined by aim assist. halo 3 being most played is proof xbox360 lacks good shooters,
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#149 rorskarch
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[QUOTE="rorskarch"]

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] So, to HIM people comparing Killzone to Halo is laughable.AAllxxjjnn

dude, what you are arguing for is so pointless. yes obviously in his mind, to him. i mean, to who else could it be. for HIM to believe other people who compare killzone 2 to halo 3 is laughable and then to say it to everyone means that he sees it as a fact that everyone should accept. i dont even know why youre defending him...

I'm just saying, pointing out that what he wrote is opinion is pointless because it is completely and utterly obvious. He never claimed anything in his post was fact. It's assumed that he was stating his personal preference. I'm not even defending anything he wrote....

how is it obvious?
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#150 spencer_119
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interesting grudge