IGN- Sorry lemmings. GEOW 2 didnt make the nominee list

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[QUOTE="spike6566"] well lets see MGS 4 sold 4mill and LBP sold 1.5mill. so what is your point again?spike6566

Neither of those games sold as many copies as Gears of War 2. It sold over 1.5 million copies it's first week. lol!!That's his point. More people were interested in Gears of War 2, then MGS IV or LBP combined. Which makes the awards seem a little tainted.

Gears of War 2 transcended two million in three days.

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="XanderZane"]

Neither of those games sold as many copies as Gears of War 2. It sold over 1.5 million copies it's first week. lol!!That's his point. More people were interested in Gears of War 2, then MGS IV or LBP combined. Which makes the awards seem a little tainted.

TheAnnihilation

Gears of War 2 transcended two million in three days.

Well...im sure the only problem is the multiplayer. Everything else on the game is awesome. At least 4 million gamers are having fun with itPAL360

It doesn't deserve to be on the list. The online is broken. GeOW2 and R2 are in the same bag, neither should be on a GOTY list if both aren't.

EDIT: And neither deserve to win.Burnsmiesta

[QUOTE="TheAnnihilation"][QUOTE="spike6566"] but mgs4 sold 3mil in the first month. so i guess tht means sales are bad to you?spike6566

Gears of War 2 transcended two million in three days.

Better than Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots' sales.

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]It doesn't deserve to be on the list. The online is broken. GeOW2 and R2 are in the same bag, neither should be on a GOTY list if both aren't.

EDIT: And neither deserve to win.AAllxxjjnn

Well there we have it. GEOW 2 couldnt make it on GS now it cant make it on IGN. looks like 2 exclusive PS3 games and the rest multi plats. Maybe next year 360 exclusive will actually make the list. any how enjoy. spike6566

Strange, i though all worst games of 2008 got nominated (MGS4, LBP, Gears 2 that is)

The last 360 game i would like to see nominated is Gears 2, given Fable 2, Banjo 3, Lost Odyssey, Tales etc are 1000x better games for me than the overhyped, ovescored, linear and last gen in gameplay and level design Gears 2, MGS4, LBP etc

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]It doesn't deserve to be on the list. The online is broken. GeOW2 and R2 are in the same bag, neither should be on a GOTY list if both aren't.

EDIT: And neither deserve to win.spike6566

Well there we have it. GEOW 2 couldnt make it on GS now it cant make it on IGN. looks like 2 exclusive PS3 games and the rest multi plats. Maybe next year 360 exclusive will actually make the list. any how enjoy. http://bestof.ign.com/2008/spike6566

I guess I'll have to take solace in the fact that my console is not stagnating in last place.

I'll wipe my tears with the printout of the latest NPD figures...sniff.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]Well...im sure the only problem is the multiplayer. Everything else on the game is awesome. At least 4 million gamers are having fun with itspike6566

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="PAL360"]Well...im sure the only problem is the multiplayer. Everything else on the game is awesome. At least 4 million gamers are having fun with itPAL360

..but other than the online is great

I think every game on the nominees list innovates in some form or another. Gears 2 didn't really reinvent itself or even up the ante on the third person genre. Its a great game, simple as that, but not one of the best of the year. Not in a year where LBP, MGS4, Fall out 3, GTAIV and L4D all broke ground in their respective genres. Whether it was the play-create-share philosophy of LBP, the octocam in MGS4, the immense lived in worlds of FO3 or GTAIV, and the insanely fun multiplayer in L4D. Theirs just no room for "good but nothing new". Gears unfortunately falls into that category. Its good...sometimes even great...but a little too complacent with taking zero risks. Unless that risk is crappy online multiplayer. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="JediRiff"][QUOTE="spike6566"] well lets see MGS 4 sold 4mill and LBP sold 1.5mill. so what is your point again?hyperboy152000

yea but mgs4 sold roughly 3 million of that in its first month

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I think every game on the nominees list innovates in some form or another. Gears 2 didn't really reinvent itself or even up the ante on the third person genre. Its a great game, simple as that, but not one of the best of the year. Not in a year where LBP, MGS4, Fall out 3, GTAIV and L4D all broke ground in their respective genres. Whether it was the play-create-share philosophy of LBP, the octocam in MGS4, the immense lived in worlds of FO3 or GTAIV, and the insanely fun multiplayer in L4D. Theirs just no room for "good but nothing new". Gears unfortunately falls into that category. Its good...sometimes even great...but a little too complacent with taking zero risks. Unless that risk is crappy online multiplayer. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I think every game on the nominees list innovates in some form or another. Gears 2 didn't really reinvent itself or even up the ante on the third person genre. Its a great game, simple as that, but not one of the best of the year. Not in a year where LBP, MGS4, Fall out 3, GTAIV and L4D all broke ground in their respective genres. Whether it was the play-create-share philosophy of LBP, the octocam in MGS4, the immense lived in worlds of FO3 or GTAIV, and the insanely fun multiplayer in L4D. Theirs just no room for "good but nothing new". Gears unfortunately falls into that category. Its good...sometimes even great...but a little too complacent with taking zero risks. Unless that risk is crappy online multiplayer. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I think every game on the nominees list innovates in some form or another. Gears 2 didn't really reinvent itself or even up the ante on the third person genre. Its a great game, simple as that, but not one of the best of the year. Not in a year where LBP, MGS4, Fall out 3, GTAIV and L4D all broke ground in their respective genres. Whether it was the play-create-share philosophy of LBP, the octocam in MGS4, the immense lived in worlds of FO3 or GTAIV, and the insanely fun multiplayer in L4D. Theirs just no room for "good but nothing new". Gears unfortunately falls into that category. Its good...sometimes even great...but a little too complacent with taking zero risks. Unless that risk is crappy online multiplayer. c1o2d3y

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I think every game on the nominees list innovates in some form or another. Gears 2 didn't really reinvent itself or even up the ante on the third person genre. Its a great game, simple as that, but not one of the best of the year. Not in a year where LBP, MGS4, Fall out 3, GTAIV and L4D all broke ground in their respective genres. Whether it was the play-create-share philosophy of LBP, the octocam in MGS4, the immense lived in worlds of FO3 or GTAIV, and the insanely fun multiplayer in L4D. Theirs just no room for "good but nothing new". Gears unfortunately falls into that category. Its good...sometimes even great...but a little too complacent with taking zero risks. Unless that risk is crappy online multiplayer. c1o2d3y

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]I think every game on the nominees list innovates in some form or another. Gears 2 didn't really reinvent itself or even up the ante on the third person genre. Its a great game, simple as that, but not one of the best of the year. Not in a year where LBP, MGS4, Fall out 3, GTAIV and L4D all broke ground in their respective genres. Whether it was the play-create-share philosophy of LBP, the octocam in MGS4, the immense lived in worlds of FO3 or GTAIV, and the insanely fun multiplayer in L4D. Theirs just no room for "good but nothing new". Gears unfortunately falls into that category. Its good...sometimes even great...but a little too complacent with taking zero risks. Unless that risk is crappy online multiplayer. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="c1o2d3y"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Neither did MGS4. How did it reinvent itself and up the ante on the third person/stealth genre? Oh yeh, it didn't. The control scheme is different, that's it. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Neither did MGS4. How did it reinvent itself and up the ante on the third person/stealth genre? Oh yeh, it didn't. The control scheme is different, that's it. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="c1o2d3y"] You can play through the game as a stealth game or just run and gun it Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Not only was that in MGS3, but just like in MGS3 the run and gun is pretty average compared to other TPS games and the stealth is average compared to other stealth games. AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Not true. Octocam alone is a revelation. Took away all the tedious manual camo you had to do in MGS3. The action set pieces were the best in the series and with a seamless cut from cinema to in-game you were always in the moment when you went into the action. The limitless options of how to mess with soldiers and thier many varied reactions are a real step for smart A.I. Not to mention the huge war torn environments and your ability to interact (or not) with your surroundings in a meaningful way is also new for the stealth genre. When you earned the trust of the rebels you kept it for the whole game unless you kill one of their men. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] MGS3 did not allow you to run and gun. Heck some areas were littered with so many soldiers you'd never survive if you got caught. Average stealth? Chapter 3 is a love letter to the stealth genre and a nod to a scene in Metal Gear 2:Solid Snake. Chapter 1 and 2 puts Snake in environments he's never been in before with a level of detail never before seen in the series. The game responds to the player. The smarter you play it the more you get out of it.Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] And i obviously love playing smart, because Crysis rewards you in the same way and that's one of my favorite games. I addressed act III in my last post.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Their was just so much to discover in MGS4. So many toys to play with. You under rate its accomplishments almost criminally. Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] And yet so many others overrate it's 'accomplishments' criminally. What's my motivation for using such toys? It's not like it's more rewarding than just cutting the guys throat. I used a playboy once. And then shot everyone. And i felt like i would have had more fun sneaking up on them and cutting their throats or playing it as an action game, despite the, still, clunky controls and terrible cover system.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]It doesn't deserve to be on the list. The online is broken. GeOW2 and R2 are in the same bag, neither should be on a GOTY list if both aren't.

EDIT: And neither deserve to win.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]Neither did Resistance 2...spike6566

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Diviniuz"] Probably the worst line in Fallout 3 or maybe I just listened to it so much that it just annoying for me.GodofBigMacs

No, The War has Changed one is actually great, especially with the commotion going on in the background, with your fellow militiamen getting shot down by PMC's like it's a cakewalk, just exemplifying how his speech is actually true. It greatly paints a picture of how nanotechnology has transformed our society, and was a perfect intro.

Anyway, I wrote down the speech after analyzing it on Youtube *ahem*

*cues MGS Love Theme*

War... has changed...

It's no longer about nations, ideologies, or ethnicity.

It's an endless series of proxy battles, fought by mercenaries, and machines.

War... and its consumption of life... has become a well-oiled machine...

War has changed...

ID-tagged soldiers carry ID-tagged weapons, use ID-tagged gear...

Nanomachines inside their bodies enhance and regulate their abilities.

Genetic control, information control, emotion control, battlefield control.

Everything is monitored, and kept under control.

War... has changed...

The age of deterrance... has become the age of control...

All in the name of averting catastrophe from weapons of mass destruction.

And he, who controls the battlefield, controls history.

War... has changed...

When the battlefield is under total control...

War... becomes routine...

Thats because it was a decent single player campaign game thats it. Graphics were sub-par alittle better than the first. Sony always will and has produced the best games and its only going to get better. MS will never get a GOTY as long as Sony is around.

GeoW2 deserved to be on that list. Even though all that Epic did was - make the lighting a better and make the environments brighter - slap on a few texture layers on the character models - amp up the physics (biggest change in the whole game - tweak a few weapons But if its not broken why fix it ??? GeoW was awesome, GeoW2 is awesome. Im a cow but I have to admit that GeoW2 deserves to be on that list more than R2.Nonstop-Madness

[QUOTE="cuddlesofwar"][QUOTE="spike6566"]Well there we have it. GEOW 2 couldnt make it on GS now it cant make it on IGN. looks like 2 exclusive PS3 games and the rest multi plats. Maybe next year 360 exclusive will actually make the list. any how enjoy. http://bestof.ign.com/2008/spike6566

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]GeoW2 deserved to be on that list. Even though all that Epic did was - make the lighting a better and make the environments brighter - slap on a few texture layers on the character models - amp up the physics (biggest change in the whole game - tweak a few weapons But if its not broken why fix it ??? GeoW was awesome, GeoW2 is awesome. Im a cow but I have to admit that GeoW2 deserves to be on that list more than R2.djsifer01