IGN: Top 100 Greatest RPGs of All Time (#100-40) (UPDATED) (Lol Mass Effect)

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#302 TilxWLOC
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

there's no doby that red and blue were the most influential pokemon games but still, gen 2 and gen 5 blow it out of the water

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And Gen 3 and Gen 4. I'll stop being annoying now.

I, MOSTLY, agree with you, except for Leafgreen and Firered (Which I attempted a "speed" run of recently, 6:09, Blastoise only), and possibly some other things, but Gen 4 was the worst. It had the worst environments and Pokemon in the entire series, no Fire types? Really? Oh, and I hate the character design in that game, that's more personal, but hey... and the art direction-- and the UI (also goes for FFX).

As for the Final Fantasy debate going on, I disagree with everyone, the pacing is terrible in all of the Final Fantasy games (that I played) and there is a ton of filler for story or just grinding, with one exception, III, I still can't finish IV because of how much it drags on. Other than that not bad, except for X, that UI started off alright, but as the game progressed it started to wear me down, didn't beat that one either (got to the ship).

On an unrelated note, after all of the Youtube comments I've left lately it is nice to not have a limit so I can punctuate and spell freely.

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#304 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

there's no doby that red and blue were the most influential pokemon games but still, gen 2 and gen 5 blow it out of the water

TilxWLOC

And Gen 3 and Gen 4. I'll stop being annoying now.

I, MOSTLY, agree with you, except for Leafgreen and Firered (Which I attempted a "speed" run of recently, 6:09, Blastoise only), and possibly some other things, but Gen 4 was the worst. It had the worst environments and Pokemon in the entire series, no Fire types? Really? Oh, and I hate the character design in that game, that's more personal, but hey... and the art direction-- and the UI (also goes for FFX).

As for the Final Fantasy debate going on, I disagree with everyone, the pacing is terrible in all of the Final Fantasy games (that I played) and there is a ton of filler for story or just grinding, with one exception, III, I still can't finish IV because of how much it drags on. Other than that not bad, except for X, that UI started off alright, but as the game progressed it started to wear me down, didn't beat that one either (got to the ship).

On an unrelated note, after all of the Youtube comments I've left lately it is nice to not have a limit so I can punctuate and spell freely.

I think out of the good gens Gen 4 had the worst Pokemon and the lack of Fire types is almost offensive (although I like them for their designs mostly, Fire is a terrible defensive type). Luckily Platinum fixed that. As for Sinnoh it's my second favorite region after Hoenn and is creeping up on it as my favorite. It's large, beautifully varied, has awesome snow sections and caves in the mountain and had a great sea route. I think I might go buy Platinum some time soon and sink some serious hours into it.
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#305 TheWalkingGhost
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So, pretty much anyone could find somthing they could disagree with - some more, some less.

But that's to be expected... Everyone has their own preferences and opinions.

But, because of that (and this is really nice illustration of how the opinions can differ), I "really can't wait" until some fool will try pass of his judgments as superior just because some reviewers agreed with him about some game. :roll:

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The only fool in here is you. Mostly because only a moron would think critical reviews don't play into anything. I hate to break it to you, but reviews weigh more than some morons rantings on a forum, if we left it up to fans all game lists would be dominated by COD and Halo. BTW, I can't wait until some fool misreads a comment and tries to troll another poster over something they didn't understand in the first place...We have a winner. Nobody did what you are crying about. FF8 deserves to be on the list, and it's critical acclaim backs up as I promise you it means more than you do to IGN. Saying it should be left off because you hate it is moronic. No superior claims here, just a simple fact. Not that you seem to grasp such things.
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#306 lightleggy
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FFVII will sadly be in the top 5 definitely...mark my words. no game has ever been that overrated.
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#307 lightleggy
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oh well, that was unexpected. the top 5 isnt actually that bad.
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#308 TheWalkingGhost
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]FFVII will sadly be in the top 5 definitely...mark my words. no game has ever been that overrated.

Explain this please. I don't get the onslaught of FF7 hate all of a sudden. Not the greatest RPG ever, but deserving of praise none the less.
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]FFVII will sadly be in the top 5 definitely...mark my words. no game has ever been that overrated.

Explain this please. I don't get the onslaught of FF7 hate all of a sudden. Not the greatest RPG ever, but deserving of praise none the less.

the game is overrated to a very high degree its a reaction to the fact for years we saw list after list dominated by ff7 because of votes by gamers whom ff7 was the first and last jrpg they ever played. hence they wouldn't know quality jrpgs.
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#310 oakengroves
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A terrible, garbage, list that shows how subjective and ridiculous it is to make a list of the "top 100 RPGs."
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#311 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]FFVII will sadly be in the top 5 definitely...mark my words. no game has ever been that overrated.

Explain this please. I don't get the onslaught of FF7 hate all of a sudden. Not the greatest RPG ever, but deserving of praise none the less.

no lol its the most overrated game ever, I just hate how it gets a tremendous amount of undeserved praise and how square refuses to move forward (they always have to include something about FF7 in other games...just look at lightning, she was literally conceived as a "female version of cloud") simply because it was the first FF for PS1 and the first to be in "3D": everything about FF7 is overrated.
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#312 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]FFVII will sadly be in the top 5 definitely...mark my words. no game has ever been that overrated.

Explain this please. I don't get the onslaught of FF7 hate all of a sudden. Not the greatest RPG ever, but deserving of praise none the less.

the game is overrated to a very high degree its a reaction to the fact for years we saw list after list dominated by ff7 because of votes by gamers whom ff7 was the first and last jrpg they ever played. hence they wouldn't know quality jrpgs.

you know I think I actually agree with what you said, for the first time ever. you couldnt have explain it better.
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]FFVII will sadly be in the top 5 definitely...mark my words. no game has ever been that overrated.

Explain this please. I don't get the onslaught of FF7 hate all of a sudden. Not the greatest RPG ever, but deserving of praise none the less.

no lol its the most overrated game ever, I just hate how it gets a tremendous amount of undeserved praise and how square refuses to move forward (they always have to include something about FF7 in other games...just look at lightning, she was literally conceived as a "female version of cloud") simply because it was the first FF for PS1 and the first to be in "3D": everything about FF7 is overrated.

And all you did was say no and laugh. You provided no information as why it is overrated with no valid reasons why the praise is wrong other than lol no and yes it is.
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#315 TheWalkingGhost
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]Explain this please. I don't get the onslaught of FF7 hate all of a sudden. Not the greatest RPG ever, but deserving of praise none the less.lightleggy
the game is overrated to a very high degree its a reaction to the fact for years we saw list after list dominated by ff7 because of votes by gamers whom ff7 was the first and last jrpg they ever played. hence they wouldn't know quality jrpgs.

you know I think I actually agree with what you said, for the first time ever. you couldnt have explain it better.

 He didn't answer the question either. Neither of you said anything. Refer to TexasGoldRush's posts to learn how to answer a question. I don't agree with him, but atleast he explained what he thought was wrong with the game.
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#316 bowserjr123
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As everyone else has been saying, pretty bad list other than a couple choices (FF6 and Chrono Trigger at 1/2 respectively). I don't get how they put Mario and Luigi Partners in Time over Superstar Saga and BIS, Pokemon Red/Blue with no mention of Gold/Silver, Paper Mario 2 with no mention of the first one, and Xenoblade being that low.

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#317 Shinobishyguy
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Is this an ordered list? :?

Xenoblade / Mass Effect 2 > Tales of Symphonia / Skies of Arkadia / Thousand Year Door????

What the hell is wrong with IGN?

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Xenoblade is considered by many to be one of the greatest jrpg's in a long time so it's no stretch that is on there.

Mass effect 2 is overrated as hell though I'll agree

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#318 WilliamRLBaker
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I need to give chrono trigger a try sometime in the near future.

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got a ds or 3ds? chronotrigger got a very nice rerelease on the ds with new dungeons a new ending new monsters and a tweaked translation.
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#319 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] the game is overrated to a very high degree its a reaction to the fact for years we saw list after list dominated by ff7 because of votes by gamers whom ff7 was the first and last jrpg they ever played. hence they wouldn't know quality jrpgs.

you know I think I actually agree with what you said, for the first time ever. you couldnt have explain it better.

 He didn't answer the question either. Neither of you said anything. Refer to TexasGoldRush's posts to learn how to answer a question. I don't agree with him, but atleast he explained what he thought was wrong with the game.

dont have to explain goldrush already laid out everything to you.
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#320 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] the game is overrated to a very high degree its a reaction to the fact for years we saw list after list dominated by ff7 because of votes by gamers whom ff7 was the first and last jrpg they ever played. hence they wouldn't know quality jrpgs.

you know I think I actually agree with what you said, for the first time ever. you couldnt have explain it better.

 He didn't answer the question either. Neither of you said anything. Refer to TexasGoldRush's posts to learn how to answer a question. I don't agree with him, but atleast he explained what he thought was wrong with the game.

Plot filled with cliches. cookie cutted character more plotholes than a swiss cheese (some of them were "fixed" in one of the later expansions tho..) a crying baby as its protagonist. a very bad antagonist who barely appears in the game and still for some weird reason is hailed as the best villain ever. bad graphics even for its time and the fact that the game was dominating every single list in existance for the past 13 years just adds a "stop f*cking mentioning ff7..." factor. and dont say "it dominated those lists because it was great!" thats like saying that twilight is a good movie because it wins every MTV award its nominated for.
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#321 texasgoldrush
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As everyone else has been saying, pretty bad list other than a couple choices (FF6 and Chrono Trigger at 1/2 respectively). I don't get how they put Mario and Luigi Partners in Time over Superstar Saga and BIS, Pokemon Red/Blue with no mention of Gold/Silver, Paper Mario 2 with no mention of the first one, and Xenoblade being that low.

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Xenoblade is very overrated, and really the Last Story is better (as well as Lost Odyssey before it). Really Xenoblade's success is that it isn't a lackluster console JRPG like almost all other console JRPGs released this gen. But really can it stand with those SNES and PS1 greats? Absolutely not.