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#101 KungfuKitten
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I haven't 'forgotten' ME3 and I don't think this generation of gamers ever will. I understand that journalists don't have to worry much about getting scammed cause they get send review copies.

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#102 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="Doctor-Mindjack"]IGn, really are Ignorant aren't you. All you need are these two here:

You are not telling the whole story here........ EA didn't force Origin to write ultima IX so idiotic it insulted the fanbase..... EA forced them to release the game way too early, thats EA's fault..........but the writing atrocity was Origin's.
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#103 dream431ca
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I'll tell you the real reason EA went down...Peter Moore. Remember him? He came from MS XBOX division to the head of EA. Now EA has fallen over the years.

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#105 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="dracolich55"] Just so you know, DA:O was after EA xD And ME2>ME1, ME1 felt like it was trying to be an RPG when it was in reality a TPS with adventure game elements. At least ME2 realized that mass effect is a TPS series with RPG elements. And when Microsoft published Biowares games there games were even worse. KOTOR was the only good thing. Jade Empire and Never-Winter Knights were fairly medicore. In fact before KOTOR, there last "Amazing" title was Baldurs Gate 2 in 2000 LOL ME3 even with its bad ending is still an enjoyable.dracolich55

they had been working on dragon age years before they were bought by EA, it was released when they were bought yes, but they worked in it like 3 years before it. ME 1 > ME 2, although ME 2 is still pretty good but i guess thats opinion, lets say ME 2 is a great game, that would make 1 great game of all the games released under EA, when before they were constantly releasing quality.

nwn and jade empire are great games rofl, and kotor and baldurs gate too. me 3 is mediocre, even if it has some great moments, it has some very terrible design flaws

so tell me, what great games has bioware released besides ME 2 since they were bought by EA? and compare that number with the ones pre EA

So? Jade Empire and NWN came before EA as well and were pretty meh. No one can deny that, there were better hack n slash games and honestlt as far as co-op goes Diablo 2 was still king. Hell, it STILL is king. No, ME2 was better than ME1. ME1 was trying to be an RPG when it should have focused itself on being a TPS with RPG elements in the first place. Its like trying to be Uncharted a plat former when its really just a TPS. Baldurs Gate and KOTOR are amazing, BG2 is my 2nd favourite game of all time. BUT Jade Empire was pretty weaksauce and NWN felt like Bioware was going for some combination of BG2 and Diablo 2, and that didn't exactlt turn out well, now did it? Not saying NWN and Jade Empire are not fun games, they are fun but they arn't anything amazing. DA2 is probably the second worse Bioware game, the worst is easily Jade Empire.

you dont get it do you?

jade empiure and nwn are great games, if you don't like it doesn't matter, its clear you don't even played them so why are u talking about them as if you know them? they are not even hack and slash games....

me 2 against me 1 is a matter of personal taste. period. so to not drag this into a me 1 vs me 2 lets just say both are great. me 3 is still mediocre.

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#106 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="dracolich55"] Just so you know, DA:O was after EA xD And ME2>ME1, ME1 felt like it was trying to be an RPG when it was in reality a TPS with adventure game elements. At least ME2 realized that mass effect is a TPS series with RPG elements. And when Microsoft published Biowares games there games were even worse. KOTOR was the only good thing. Jade Empire and Never-Winter Knights were fairly medicore. In fact before KOTOR, there last "Amazing" title was Baldurs Gate 2 in 2000 LOL ME3 even with its bad ending is still an enjoyable.dracolich55

they had been working on dragon age years before they were bought by EA, it was released when they were bought yes, but they worked in it like 3 years before it. ME 1 > ME 2, although ME 2 is still pretty good but i guess thats opinion, lets say ME 2 is a great game, that would make 1 great game of all the games released under EA, when before they were constantly releasing quality.

nwn and jade empire are great games rofl, and kotor and baldurs gate too. me 3 is mediocre, even if it has some great moments, it has some very terrible design flaws

so tell me, what great games has bioware released besides ME 2 since they were bought by EA? and compare that number with the ones pre EA

So? Jade Empire and NWN came before EA as well and were pretty meh. No one can deny that, there were better hack n slash games and honestlt as far as co-op goes Diablo 2 was still king. Hell, it STILL is king. No, ME2 was better than ME1. ME1 was trying to be an RPG when it should have focused itself on being a TPS with RPG elements in the first place. Its like trying to be Uncharted a plat former when its really just a TPS. Baldurs Gate and KOTOR are amazing, BG2 is my 2nd favourite game of all time. BUT Jade Empire was pretty weaksauce and NWN felt like Bioware was going for some combination of BG2 and Diablo 2, and that didn't exactlt turn out well, now did it? Not saying NWN and Jade Empire are not fun games, they are fun but they arn't anything amazing. DA2 is probably the second worse Bioware game, the worst is easily Jade Empire.

Jade Empire is both brilliant and disappointing. Really the story for the most part and the themes of the game, as well as the setting were amazing. However, the game was very short and Bioware dropped the ball BIGTIME on the moral system. The Closed Fist alignment was told to be morally grey, a liberatrian philosphy of self advancement, however, in practice it may very well be the most evil playthrough in an RPG. NWN is the worst Bioware game, by far. Its easily their worst story. The best thing about the game was the mod tools. People who praise Bioware's old games while bashing the new ones are pretty ignorant. In fact, if you compare Bioware games now to their old games you will find that Bioware games under EA have far better character development, far more multidimensional characters, riskier plotlines and storytelling, put more involvement of the characters into the plot, writers making the characters be more and more human, and not afraid to get dark and have unhappy endings than bioware games before EA (although BGII has its dark moments). Really Bioware has TAKEN MORE RISKS under EA with their writing. And they are more likely now to go outside their formula. As for ME1, I keep telling people....the simpe fact is that the RPG elements and the action elements clash in that game, weakening both the action AND the RPG. We excuse it because it was one of the first this gen to make the mistake, Than Alpha Protocol not only makes the same mistake but makes it worse, they rightfully get destroyed by critics for it. ME2 and ME3 doesn't make the same mistake.
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#107 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

they had been working on dragon age years before they were bought by EA, it was released when they were bought yes, but they worked in it like 3 years before it. ME 1 > ME 2, although ME 2 is still pretty good but i guess thats opinion, lets say ME 2 is a great game, that would make 1 great game of all the games released under EA, when before they were constantly releasing quality.

nwn and jade empire are great games rofl, and kotor and baldurs gate too. me 3 is mediocre, even if it has some great moments, it has some very terrible design flaws

so tell me, what great games has bioware released besides ME 2 since they were bought by EA? and compare that number with the ones pre EA

Krelian-co

So? Jade Empire and NWN came before EA as well and were pretty meh. No one can deny that, there were better hack n slash games and honestlt as far as co-op goes Diablo 2 was still king. Hell, it STILL is king. No, ME2 was better than ME1. ME1 was trying to be an RPG when it should have focused itself on being a TPS with RPG elements in the first place. Its like trying to be Uncharted a plat former when its really just a TPS. Baldurs Gate and KOTOR are amazing, BG2 is my 2nd favourite game of all time. BUT Jade Empire was pretty weaksauce and NWN felt like Bioware was going for some combination of BG2 and Diablo 2, and that didn't exactlt turn out well, now did it? Not saying NWN and Jade Empire are not fun games, they are fun but they arn't anything amazing. DA2 is probably the second worse Bioware game, the worst is easily Jade Empire.

you dont get it do you?

jade empiure and nwn are great games, if you don't like it doesn't matter, its clear you don't even played them so why are u talking about them as if you know them? they are not even hack and slash games....

me 2 against me 1 is a matter of personal taste. period. so to not drag this into a me 1 vs me 2 lets just say both are great. me 3 is still mediocre.

No.... Jade Empire is flawed in several areas....especially the morality system. NWN is Bioware's worst story to date. There is nothing special about the game other than that players can make their own adventures. And wrong, ME3 is a great game with a weak ending. The other 98% of the game is awesome. Nevermind that it destroys the first two games in many areas.
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#108 ChubbyGuy40
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And wrong, ME3 is a great game with a weak ending. The other 98% of the game is awesome. Nevermind that it destroys the first two games in many areas.texasgoldrush

Yeah lets just forget the lame graphics, weak sound, and poor Gears combat with tacked on stats.

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#110 texasgoldrush
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]And wrong, ME3 is a great game with a weak ending. The other 98% of the game is awesome. Nevermind that it destroys the first two games in many areas.ChubbyGuy40

Yeah lets just forget the lame graphics, weak sound, and poor Gears combat with tacked on stats.

When do graphics make the game? The graphics are good enough. Weak sound? Ummm...no. Nevermind the top notch soundtrack and the incredible voice acting. Sorry, but nothing is "tacked"....each class plays very differently.
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#111 texasgoldrush
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Probably the same reason people hate IGN, they suck. I bet they're just sucking up to EA because of Diana Allers one of their staff is a character in Mass Effect 3. What a pointless waste of disc space. If only they gave us the option to throw her out the airlock.

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Then don't recruit her, its that simple. Hell, she can actually DIE if you don;t recruit her....
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#112 dracolich55
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[QUOTE="dracolich55"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

they had been working on dragon age years before they were bought by EA, it was released when they were bought yes, but they worked in it like 3 years before it. ME 1 > ME 2, although ME 2 is still pretty good but i guess thats opinion, lets say ME 2 is a great game, that would make 1 great game of all the games released under EA, when before they were constantly releasing quality.

nwn and jade empire are great games rofl, and kotor and baldurs gate too. me 3 is mediocre, even if it has some great moments, it has some very terrible design flaws

so tell me, what great games has bioware released besides ME 2 since they were bought by EA? and compare that number with the ones pre EA

Krelian-co

So? Jade Empire and NWN came before EA as well and were pretty meh. No one can deny that, there were better hack n slash games and honestlt as far as co-op goes Diablo 2 was still king. Hell, it STILL is king. No, ME2 was better than ME1. ME1 was trying to be an RPG when it should have focused itself on being a TPS with RPG elements in the first place. Its like trying to be Uncharted a plat former when its really just a TPS. Baldurs Gate and KOTOR are amazing, BG2 is my 2nd favourite game of all time. BUT Jade Empire was pretty weaksauce and NWN felt like Bioware was going for some combination of BG2 and Diablo 2, and that didn't exactlt turn out well, now did it? Not saying NWN and Jade Empire are not fun games, they are fun but they arn't anything amazing. DA2 is probably the second worse Bioware game, the worst is easily Jade Empire.

you dont get it do you?

jade empiure and nwn are great games, if you don't like it doesn't matter, its clear you don't even played them so why are u talking about them as if you know them? they are not even hack and slash games....

me 2 against me 1 is a matter of personal taste. period. so to not drag this into a me 1 vs me 2 lets just say both are great. me 3 is still mediocre.

I get it very much, thank you very much. This isn't opinion, its fact. Jade Empire and NWN are clearly not as good as other Bioware games. And Jade Empire is hack-n-slash, actually.
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#113 Shenmue_Jehuty
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[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

i'll just leave this here

-This is for buying out some of the best game companies and turning them to mediocrity.
-This is for having some of the worst customer service in the gaming industry.
-This is for deliberately holding back game content for the sole purpose of making customers pay more for it later as DLC.
-This is for strictly enforcing copyrights on content that you did not even create.
-This is for taking the Need for Speed franchise and completely ruining it.
-This is for supporting the S.O.P.A.
-This is for overworking some of your employees with no benefeits, demolishing any creative talent they have.
-This is for making terms of use that allow you to backstab your customers any time you see fit.
-This is for releasing the same things every year, an increasingly large number being the only difference.
-This is for forcing your customers to stay online to even play several games you publish at all.
-This is for backstabbing Valve, preventing the developers you publish for from releasing their games via Steam for the sole purpose of promoting your own platform.
-This is for overhyping your games and not delivering the content you promised.
-This is for increasing the funding of media review organizations to get better reviews of your games.
-This is for monopolizing the entire gaming industry and crushing all that oppose you.

Miroku32

This just ends the entire thread.

agreed, I second this

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#114 svaubel
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They shouldnt have asked EA why people hate EA.

Go watch the Jimquisition he does good job at explaining things.

Oh and IGN is total fail.

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#115 VendettaRed07
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The same reason people hate the Miami Heat

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#116 Krelian-co
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[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"]And wrong, ME3 is a great game with a weak ending. The other 98% of the game is awesome. Nevermind that it destroys the first two games in many areas.ChubbyGuy40

Yeah lets just forget the lame graphics, weak sound, and poor Gears combat with tacked on stats.

and lets not forget the incredibly annoying fecth quests, galactic eaveasdroping or awesome plot holes