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#1 ShadowMoses900
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, I didn't see a thread about it and it is farily recent news, so I'll get it started.

Why Does the 360 Lose Exclusives - IGN

Done by the experts at IGN, they throw out some very interesting ideas. Mainly that MS does not care about exclusives and are going to be more focused on making a centralised media hub next gen and not focused on making 1st party titles, where as Sony is going to continue to grow and become a bigger and bigger publisher with more exclusives.

The Xbox brand seems to do well with just Halo and Gears, that's all it really seems to need. Those 2 along with Fable and Forza are the only exclusives that are successful on 360, the rest such as Alan Wake sell poorly which is why MS stopped making them. The 360 fanbase does not buy very many exclusives, IGN also raised another interesting point: MS already has consumers, the 360 fanbase has no choice but to buy the next Xbox.

This is where their freinds list will be, their gamertags, their achivements, their XBL Gold account etc....they are not going to drop that. The PS3 fanbase won't switch over to Xbox for the same reason. People are too invested in their system as it is. So going into next gen you are going to see the PlayStation brand keep getting more and more exclusives, while the Xbox brand will focus on mainnly multiplats such as COD and special DLC for them, while bringing out big hitters every now and then such as Halo and Gears.

What do you make of this? Do you think this is accurate? Will you be satisfied with only a few exclusives for the next Xbox? One thing is for certain though, neither system really has that much of an advantage over each other, in terms of sales they are neck and neck.

As a gamer what system strategy appeals to you the most?

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Not sure if this has been posted yet, I didn't see a thread about it and it is farily recent news, so I'll get it started.

Why Does the 360 Lose Exclusives - IGN

Done by the experts at IGN, they throw out some very interesting ideas. Mainly that MS does not care about exclusives and are going to be more focused on making a centralised media hub next gen and not focused on making 1st party titles, where as Sony is going to continue to grow and become a bigger and bigger publisher with more exclusives.

The Xbox brand seems to do well with just Halo and Gears, that's all it really seems to need. Those 2 along with Fable and Forza are the only exclusives that are successful on 360, the rest such as Alan Wake sell poorly which is why MS stopped making them. The 360 fanbase does not buy very many exclusives, IGN also raised another interesting point: MS already has consumers, the 360 fanbase has no choice but to buy the next Xbox.

This is where their freinds list will be, their gamertags, their achivements, their XBL Gold account etc....they are not going to drop that. The PS3 fanbase won't switch over to Xbox for the same reason. People are too invested in their system as it is. So going into next gen you are going to see the PlayStation brand keep getting more and more exclusives, while the Xbox brand will focus on mainnly multiplats such as COD and special DLC for them, while bringing out big hitters every now and then such as Halo and Gears.

What do you make of this? Do you think this is accurate? Will you be satisfied with only a few exclusives for the next Xbox? One thing is for certain though, neither system really has that much of an advantage over each other, in terms of sales they are neck and neck.

As a gamer what system strategy appeals to you the most?

ShadowMoses900

I don't see why they wouldn't have a choice?

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IGN... lol.
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, I didn't see a thread about it and it is farily recent news, so I'll get it started.

Why Does the 360 Lose Exclusives - IGN

Done by the experts at IGN, they throw out some very interesting ideas. Mainly that MS does not care about exclusives and are going to be more focused on making a centralised media hub next gen and not focused on making 1st party titles, where as Sony is going to continue to grow and become a bigger and bigger publisher with more exclusives.

The Xbox brand seems to do well with just Halo and Gears, that's all it really seems to need. Those 2 along with Fable and Forza are the only exclusives that are successful on 360, the rest such as Alan Wake sell poorly which is why MS stopped making them. The 360 fanbase does not buy very many exclusives, IGN also raised another interesting point: MS already has consumers, the 360 fanbase has no choice but to buy the next Xbox.

This is where their freinds list will be, their gamertags, their achivements, their XBL Gold account etc....they are not going to drop that. The PS3 fanbase won't switch over to Xbox for the same reason. People are too invested in their system as it is. So going into next gen you are going to see the PlayStation brand keep getting more and more exclusives, while the Xbox brand will focus on mainnly multiplats such as COD and special DLC for them, while bringing out big hitters every now and then such as Halo and Gears.

What do you make of this? Do you think this is accurate? Will you be satisfied with only a few exclusives for the next Xbox? One thing is for certain though, neither system really has that much of an advantage over each other, in terms of sales they are neck and neck.

As a gamer what system strategy appeals to you the most?

gameofthering

I don't see why they wouldn't have a choice?

IGN explains why. You buy the 360, you buy XBL Gold every year, this is where your friends are at, this is where your achievments are at. When the 720 comes out, MS will no doubt drop all support for the 360, meaning if you primary game on 360 you won't be getting any more games.

The only way you can is if you get the 720, you arn't going to let your XBL Gold go to waste, you arn't going to lose all your friends or achievements, you are too invested in your system and MS knows it. They know their consumers will buy it to play the next COD or Halo with their friends.

Sony has a similar strategy with their PS3, trophies, friends etc....only difference is that Sony is focused on making exclusives and becoming a big publisher where as MS is focused on making the Xbox brand a home media hub first and a game system second.

MS does not need to make many exclusives for the Xbox brand to be successful, they just need to keep getting timed DLC for COD (and other games) and throw out Halo and Gears every once in a while. Sony strategy is having more exclusives while keeping the same multiplats.

Both of these strategies have worked out for them well this gen, as evident by the fact that they are neck and neck in sales. The question is what will happen next gen? Do you think consumers will be satisfied with MS lack of exclusives? Or do you think consumers don't care about exclusives as much as Sony thinks?

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, I didn't see a thread about it and it is farily recent news, so I'll get it started.

Why Does the 360 Lose Exclusives - IGN

Done by the experts at IGN, they throw out some very interesting ideas. Mainly that MS does not care about exclusives and are going to be more focused on making a centralised media hub next gen and not focused on making 1st party titles, where as Sony is going to continue to grow and become a bigger and bigger publisher with more exclusives.

The Xbox brand seems to do well with just Halo and Gears, that's all it really seems to need. Those 2 along with Fable and Forza are the only exclusives that are successful on 360, the rest such as Alan Wake sell poorly which is why MS stopped making them. The 360 fanbase does not buy very many exclusives, IGN also raised another interesting point: MS already has consumers, the 360 fanbase has no choice but to buy the next Xbox.

This is where their freinds list will be, their gamertags, their achivements, their XBL Gold account etc....they are not going to drop that. The PS3 fanbase won't switch over to Xbox for the same reason. People are too invested in their system as it is. So going into next gen you are going to see the PlayStation brand keep getting more and more exclusives, while the Xbox brand will focus on mainnly multiplats such as COD and special DLC for them, while bringing out big hitters every now and then such as Halo and Gears.

What do you make of this? Do you think this is accurate? Will you be satisfied with only a few exclusives for the next Xbox? One thing is for certain though, neither system really has that much of an advantage over each other, in terms of sales they are neck and neck.

As a gamer what system strategy appeals to you the most?

gameofthering

I don't see why they wouldn't have a choice?

we never had a choice... i never asked for this!

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lolgnfreedomfreak

Yes laugh at something instead of giving it a response because you can't debunk it. You are using the same logic as people who dismiss evolution, they often say "lol evolution" as a means to dismiss it because they can't argue against it.

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As a gamer, Sony's strategy appeals more. However, that being said, with the amount of fun I've had playing Halo, Gears, Forza, and all the tiny masterpieces of arcade games, plus the multiplats, plus the PC+360 only multiplats (The Witcher 2), I see no reason to switch. Halo has been the only game I've ever had on a console that literally held my attention the entire gen. At the beginning of this gen Halo 2 was still alive and kicking, and then Halo 3 came along with a revolution in Forge mode, adding literally endless possibilities for custom matches. Halo Reach expanded on this and added a great file browser so you could find new things super easy. And with Halo 4 coming soon, I'll be set for another 2-3 years on a game I can play with my friends over and over. There isn't anything on PS3 like it. Also add in the fact that another game that fits that description, Minecraft, is also available on 360, and not PS3. IMO, I prefer more solid games that I can play for thousands of hours over a few new 10 hor single-player games. Thats all PS3 has. Uncharted, Infamous, God of War, etc are all great games but once they're finished, they're finished. No more wow factor. I'm also jumping back into PC gaming soon, and between PC and 360/720, I can't see myself needing anymore games to occupy my time, esspecially with all the MMOs, strategy, indie, and infinite titles on PC. TL;DR: I prefer replayabillity of Halo and Gears over 100 PS3 10-hour single playthrough games.
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]lolgnShadowMoses900

Yes laugh at something instead of giving it a response because you can't debunk it. You are using the same logic as people who dismiss evolution, they often say "lol evolution" as a means to dismiss it because they can't argue against it.

Ill remember that next time you brush off sonys dire financial situation.
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IGN are experts? lolTheGuardian03

The biggest name in the industry says hi. It's IGN.

They are number 1 for a reason, wether you like it or not. If they weren't credible the masses woudn't go to them for reviews/news, which by the way, IGN always get's first.

When a dev does interviews they always go to IGN first, at E3 IGN had WAY more interviews with devs and far earlier, this is because IGN is the big dog in the industry. IGN is certainly more of an expert than you, they get paid to do this for a living, you do not, you are not an expert. So what makes you credible and not IGN?

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]lolgnShadowMoses900

Yes laugh at something instead of giving it a response because you can't debunk it. You are using the same logic as people who dismiss evolution, they often say "lol evolution" as a means to dismiss it because they can't argue against it.

You can't argue against flawed Logic. The article is based solely off of blind speculation that both companies will employ the very same stratedy that they employed this gen. Why would Sony use the same business model next gen, if the business model this gen has been a huge financial strain on the company?

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To be honest, I'm perfectly fine with my 360 library.
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As a gamer, Sony's strategy appeals more. However, that being said, with the amount of fun I've had playing Halo, Gears, Forza, and all the tiny masterpieces of arcade games, plus the multiplats, plus the PC+360 only multiplats (The Witcher 2), I see no reason to switch. Halo has been the only game I've ever had on a console that literally held my attention the entire gen. At the beginning of this gen Halo 2 was still alive and kicking, and then Halo 3 came along with a revolution in Forge mode, adding literally endless possibilities for custom matches. Halo Reach expanded on this and added a great file browser so you could find new things super easy. And with Halo 4 coming soon, I'll be set for another 2-3 years on a game I can play with my friends over and over. There isn't anything on PS3 like it. Also add in the fact that another game that fits that description, Minecraft, is also available on 360, and not PS3. IMO, I prefer more solid games that I can play for thousands of hours over a few new 10 hor single-player games. Thats all PS3 has. Uncharted, Infamous, God of War, etc are all great games but once they're finished, they're finished. No more wow factor. I'm also jumping back into PC gaming soon, and between PC and 360/720, I can't see myself needing anymore games to occupy my time, esspecially with all the MMOs, strategy, indie, and infinite titles on PC. TL;DR: I prefer replayabillity of Halo and Gears over 100 PS3 10-hour single playthrough games.Plagueless

IMO I prefer Sony exclusives, I am the opposite. Halo and Gears are only 10 hour games to me, I don't pay for XBL so as you can see owning those games is pretty pointelss. However if a campaign is good I will replay it multiple times (I beat Uncharted 2 like over 10 times), and PS3 has plenty of great online games aswell. So just for me, I personally prefer the PS3 library. I haven't found anything on 360 as good as Uncharted or MGS4 or LBP.

But to each his own.

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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]IGN are experts? lolShadowMoses900

The biggest name in the industry says hi. It's IGN.

They are number 1 for a reason, wether you like it or not. If they weren't credible the masses woudn't go to them for reviews/news, which by the way, IGN always get's first.

When a dev does interviews they always go to IGN first, at E3 IGN had WAY more interviews with devs and far earlier, this is because IGN is the big dog in the industry. IGN is certainly more of an expert than you, they get paid to do this for a living, you do not, you are not an expert. So what makes you credible and not IGN?

This right here is the EXACT REASON they aren't credible. IGN is a site where everyone goes to see the maistream games get praised.

Remember the old nicknam, 9GN? That's because IGN is always afraid they'll lose that mainstream audience if they review a popular game poorly, and so EVERY mainstream game gets a 9 or higher.

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lolIGNorant

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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]lolgnShadowMoses900

Yes laugh at something instead of giving it a response because you can't debunk it. You are using the same logic as people who dismiss evolution, they often say "lol evolution" as a means to dismiss it because they can't argue against it.

lol Wth...
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Enjoy ME1 from 2007 on November 6 Moses, I'll be busy playing the GOTY contender Halo 4.
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]lolgnBruce_Benzing

Yes laugh at something instead of giving it a response because you can't debunk it. You are using the same logic as people who dismiss evolution, they often say "lol evolution" as a means to dismiss it because they can't argue against it.

You can't argue against flawed Logic. The article is based solely off of blind speculation that both companies will employ the very same stratedy that they employed this gen. Why would Sony use the same business model next gen, if the business model this gen has been a huge financial strain on the company?

The strain came from over priced system, if PS3 was the same price as 360 at launch it would have been a different story. Sony's stratgey seems to be pretty solid, it is neck and neck with the 360 after all despite it's bad early years.

MS has a good strategy too, but that is not the point. The point is you should ask a question, what strategy do you as a gamer prefer? MS or Sony? Not saying either answer is wrong, it's just a preference.

And it is not an article it is a video. I don't think you even clicked the link.... :(

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I watched the video a few days ago and was thinking about posting it but it wasn't an interesting video in the first place. You also did some terrible paraphrasing.
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Top ten selling games of 2011 according to the NPD.

1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)

2. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)

3. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)

4. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)

5. Madden NFL 12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2)

6. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC)

7. Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)

8. Gears of War 3 (360)

9. Just Dance 2 (Wii)

10. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360, PS3, PC)

Where's Uncharted 3? Where's LBP2?

M$ is in the business of making their games division profitable... If a title doesn't sell they don't support it. It sucks for gamers but this is a business. And with soooo many 3rd parties making games for All systems, why invest in an IP? At least that's what M$ is thinking.

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IGN is by far one of the most biased and corrupt website around here. PS3 just have 3 more exclusive than 360. thats it. console wise most exclusive are on wii. eitherway PC has most exclusive both quality and quantity wise.SNIPER4321

Proof?

Also you last point is subjective. Best exclusives is a matter of opinion. Some people can prefer Halo over Uncharted, that is fine, I prefer Killzone over Halo, that is also fine.

The point is we are talking about now, the PS3 has more coming out for it than 360. MS can be successful without many exclusives, the point is though is what strategy do you prefer? Let's pretend that you were a console gamer, what do you feel appeals to your taste the most?

Sony is aiming at being a big publisher, MS is aimed at making Xbox into a home media hub with things like HBO, Twitter etc....as well as games and movies too.

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:lol: collin an greg are such big playstation fanboys. its hilarious that people actually take them seriously
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Enjoy ME1 from 2007 on November 6 Moses, I'll be busy playing the GOTY contender Halo 4.TheDidact

I have Mass Effect 1 on my 360.....I don't care about Halo 4. If you do then cool for you, hope it's awesome.

I care more about Black Ops 2 than anyother game this year honeslty.

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:lol: collin an greg are such big playstation fanboys. its hilarious that people actually take them seriously mems_1224
Well Playstation fanboys do, evidentally...

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[QUOTE="Plagueless"]As a gamer, Sony's strategy appeals more. However, that being said, with the amount of fun I've had playing Halo, Gears, Forza, and all the tiny masterpieces of arcade games, plus the multiplats, plus the PC+360 only multiplats (The Witcher 2), I see no reason to switch. Halo has been the only game I've ever had on a console that literally held my attention the entire gen. At the beginning of this gen Halo 2 was still alive and kicking, and then Halo 3 came along with a revolution in Forge mode, adding literally endless possibilities for custom matches. Halo Reach expanded on this and added a great file browser so you could find new things super easy. And with Halo 4 coming soon, I'll be set for another 2-3 years on a game I can play with my friends over and over. There isn't anything on PS3 like it. Also add in the fact that another game that fits that description, Minecraft, is also available on 360, and not PS3. IMO, I prefer more solid games that I can play for thousands of hours over a few new 10 hor single-player games. Thats all PS3 has. Uncharted, Infamous, God of War, etc are all great games but once they're finished, they're finished. No more wow factor. I'm also jumping back into PC gaming soon, and between PC and 360/720, I can't see myself needing anymore games to occupy my time, esspecially with all the MMOs, strategy, indie, and infinite titles on PC. TL;DR: I prefer replayabillity of Halo and Gears over 100 PS3 10-hour single playthrough games.ShadowMoses900

IMO I prefer Sony exclusives, I am the opposite. Halo and Gears are only 10 hour games to me, I don't pay for XBL so as you can see owning those games is pretty pointelss. However if a campaign is good I will replay it multiple times (I beat Uncharted 2 like over 10 times),andPS3 has plenty of great online games aswell. So just for me, I personally prefer the PS3 library. I haven't found anything on 360 as good as Uncharted or MGS4 or LBP.

But to each his own.

You're ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it? XBL isn't required to play Halo, did I ever mention ONLINE in my post? All those games (Halo, Gears, Minecraft, etc) are also sporting a feature that nearly ZERO PS3 games have: local multiplayer. You ever heard of a LAN party? Yea well it's a lot easier with 4 Xboxs and a few Halo copies. Every bit of the games can be played splitscreen, making a great party game/great way for a bunch of people to enjoy a game.

Meanwhile, PS3 exclusives are all ether single player, or don't have this option, so in order to play co-op, your frind not only has to own the game, but own the system and innternet as well. In college (like me) not everyone has that luxury. Splitscreen/multiple player capability is a godsend.

I feel so sorry for you. You see, I don't care how goo UC2 is, if you had the luxury of games that last years or games that have amazing online components, you would NEVER play a campaign 10 times in 3 years. Ps3 does not have lots of great online games either. The ones that are, are multiplat and can be played elsewhere (Borderlands 2 for example)

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:lol: collin an greg are such big playstation fanboys. its hilarious that people actually take them seriously mems_1224

Never took Greg "Sony Drone" Miller seriously, especially with the Uncharted 3 review. I guess that TC and the two IGN playstation tools are jelly of the 360.

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Top ten selling games of 2011 according to the NPD.

1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)

2. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)

3. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)

4. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)

5. Madden NFL 12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2)

6. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC)

7. Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)

8. Gears of War 3 (360)

9. Just Dance 2 (Wii)

10. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360, PS3, PC)

Where's Uncharted 3? Where's LBP2?

M$ is in the business of making their games division profitable... If a title doesn't sell they don't support it. It sucks for gamers but this is a business. And with soooo many 3rd parties making games for All systems, why invest in an IP? At least that's what M$ is thinking.

OhSnapitz

That´s pretty much how it goes,and when this year end there won´t be any PS3 exclusive in the top best selling games of the year..again.

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[QUOTE="gameofthering"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Not sure if this has been posted yet, I didn't see a thread about it and it is farily recent news, so I'll get it started.

Why Does the 360 Lose Exclusives - IGN

Done by the experts at IGN, they throw out some very interesting ideas. Mainly that MS does not care about exclusives and are going to be more focused on making a centralised media hub next gen and not focused on making 1st party titles, where as Sony is going to continue to grow and become a bigger and bigger publisher with more exclusives.

The Xbox brand seems to do well with just Halo and Gears, that's all it really seems to need. Those 2 along with Fable and Forza are the only exclusives that are successful on 360, the rest such as Alan Wake sell poorly which is why MS stopped making them. The 360 fanbase does not buy very many exclusives, IGN also raised another interesting point: MS already has consumers, the 360 fanbase has no choice but to buy the next Xbox.

This is where their freinds list will be, their gamertags, their achivements, their XBL Gold account etc....they are not going to drop that. The PS3 fanbase won't switch over to Xbox for the same reason. People are too invested in their system as it is. So going into next gen you are going to see the PlayStation brand keep getting more and more exclusives, while the Xbox brand will focus on mainnly multiplats such as COD and special DLC for them, while bringing out big hitters every now and then such as Halo and Gears.

What do you make of this? Do you think this is accurate? Will you be satisfied with only a few exclusives for the next Xbox? One thing is for certain though, neither system really has that much of an advantage over each other, in terms of sales they are neck and neck.

As a gamer what system strategy appeals to you the most?

ShadowMoses900

I don't see why they wouldn't have a choice?

IGN explains why. You buy the 360, you buy XBL Gold every year, this is where your friends are at, this is where your achievments are at. When the 720 comes out, MS will no doubt drop all support for the 360, meaning if you primary game on 360 you won't be getting any more games.

The only way you can is if you get the 720, you arn't going to let your XBL Gold go to waste, you arn't going to lose all your friends or achievements, you are too invested in your system and MS knows it. They know their consumers will buy it to play the next COD or Halo with their friends.

Sony has a similar strategy with their PS3, trophies, friends etc....only difference is that Sony is focused on making exclusives and becoming a big publisher where as MS is focused on making the Xbox brand a home media hub first and a game system second.

MS does not need to make many exclusives for the Xbox brand to be successful, they just need to keep getting timed DLC for COD (and other games) and throw out Halo and Gears every once in a while. Sony strategy is having more exclusives while keeping the same multiplats.

Both of these strategies have worked out for them well this gen, as evident by the fact that they are neck and neck in sales. The question is what will happen next gen? Do you think consumers will be satisfied with MS lack of exclusives? Or do you think consumers don't care about exclusives as much as Sony thinks?

That didn't really stop my friends from going from 360 to PS3 :P They went from playing COD on 360 to COD on PS3...

I don't think achievements/trophies are enough to prevent people from switching.

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#31 ShadowMoses900
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:lol: collin an greg are such big playstation fanboys. its hilarious that people actually take them seriously mems_1224

You are a big 360 fanboy, I guess I should just laugh you off then as well right?

They have jobs in the industry, you do not. This is a fact and I think it makes them more credible and knowledgable than you. Of course you do not have to agree with someone, but just calling them fanboys is silly.

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#32 Plagueless
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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

Top ten selling games of 2011 according to the NPD.

1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)

2. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)

3. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)

4. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)

5. Madden NFL 12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2)

6. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC)

7. Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)

8. Gears of War 3 (360)

9. Just Dance 2 (Wii)

10. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360, PS3, PC)

Where's Uncharted 3? Where's LBP2?

M$ is in the business of making their games division profitable... If a title doesn't sell they don't support it. It sucks for gamers but this is a business. And with soooo many 3rd parties making games for All systems, why invest in an IP? At least that's what M$ is thinking.

Nanomage

That´s pretty much how it goes,and when this year end there won´t be any PS3 exclusive in the top best selling games of the year..again.

If Halo 4 could crack the top 5 the world would explode.
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#33 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]As a gamer, Sony's strategy appeals more. However, that being said, with the amount of fun I've had playing Halo, Gears, Forza, and all the tiny masterpieces of arcade games, plus the multiplats, plus the PC+360 only multiplats (The Witcher 2), I see no reason to switch. Halo has been the only game I've ever had on a console that literally held my attention the entire gen. At the beginning of this gen Halo 2 was still alive and kicking, and then Halo 3 came along with a revolution in Forge mode, adding literally endless possibilities for custom matches. Halo Reach expanded on this and added a great file browser so you could find new things super easy. And with Halo 4 coming soon, I'll be set for another 2-3 years on a game I can play with my friends over and over. There isn't anything on PS3 like it. Also add in the fact that another game that fits that description, Minecraft, is also available on 360, and not PS3. IMO, I prefer more solid games that I can play for thousands of hours over a few new 10 hor single-player games. Thats all PS3 has. Uncharted, Infamous, God of War, etc are all great games but once they're finished, they're finished. No more wow factor. I'm also jumping back into PC gaming soon, and between PC and 360/720, I can't see myself needing anymore games to occupy my time, esspecially with all the MMOs, strategy, indie, and infinite titles on PC. TL;DR: I prefer replayabillity of Halo and Gears over 100 PS3 10-hour single playthrough games.Plagueless

IMO I prefer Sony exclusives, I am the opposite. Halo and Gears are only 10 hour games to me, I don't pay for XBL so as you can see owning those games is pretty pointelss. However if a campaign is good I will replay it multiple times (I beat Uncharted 2 like over 10 times),andPS3 has plenty of great online games aswell. So just for me, I personally prefer the PS3 library. I haven't found anything on 360 as good as Uncharted or MGS4 or LBP.

But to each his own.

You're ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it? XBL isn't required to play Halo, did I ever mention ONLINE in my post? All those games (Halo, Gears, Minecraft, etc) are also sporting a feature that nearly ZERO PS3 games have: local multiplayer. You ever heard of a LAN party? Yea well it's a lot easier with 4 Xboxs and a few Halo copies. Every bit of the games can be played splitscreen, making a great party game/great way for a bunch of people to enjoy a game.

Meanwhile, PS3 exclusives are all ether single player, or don't have this option, so in order to play co-op, your frind not only has to own the game, but own the system and innternet as well. In college (like me) not everyone has that luxury. Splitscreen/multiple player capability is a godsend.

I feel so sorry for you. You see, I don't care how goo UC2 is, if you had the luxury of games that last years or games that have amazing online components, you would NEVER play a campaign 10 times in 3 years. Ps3 does not have lots of great online games either. The ones that are, are multiplat and can be played elsewhere (Borderlands 2 for example)

Wow....someone is PMSing today.

Calm down francis, take a deep beath and go outside for a bit.

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Exclusives are overrated. If your MS, why would you make a whole bunch of forgettable titles like Sony? They cost millions to make and your not gonna make any money back. That's business. Sonys exclusives are overrated and so is Microsofts. The best games are third party games and those are better on Xbox. Sony even knows their exclusives suck. They have bundled Uncharted 3 with a ps3 for a year now. Sad. Also, there's an Assassins Creed 3 ps3 bundle coming next month. If Sonys exclusives are so great, why not bundle a ps3 with Playstation AllStars or LBP Karting? I will tell you why. Nobody wants that shiit. It's sad when you bundle uncharted 3 for a year. It means you're not proud of anything else you're developing.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]:lol: collin an greg are such big playstation fanboys. its hilarious that people actually take them seriously ShadowMoses900

You are a big 360 fanboy, I guess I should just laugh you off then as well right?

They have jobs in the industry, you do not. This is a fact and I think it makes them more credible and knowledgable than you. Of course you do not have to agree with someone, but just calling them fanboys is silly.

Just because someone has a job in a particular industry doesn't make them unbiased about it. :roll: In fact, they probably have a bigger chance of bias, seeing as how they play everything and whatever appeals to their personal taste more will get a better score.
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Wow....someone is PMSing today.

Calm down francis, take a deep beath and go outside for a bit.

ShadowMoses900

So that's your response when someone totally shreds your weak attempt at an argument?

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]:lol: collin an greg are such big playstation fanboys. its hilarious that people actually take them seriously ShadowMoses900

You are a big 360 fanboy, I guess I should just laugh you off then as well right?

They have jobs in the industry, you do not. This is a fact and I think it makes them more credible and knowledgable than you. Of course you do not have to agree with someone, but just calling them fanboys is silly.

no, they are giant fanboys. them being employed in the industry is irrelevant. i've read enough of their articles and reviews and heard them on enough podcasts to know their opinions mean absolutely nothing because they are sony fanboys no matter what. people who are credible and knowledgeable are not completely biased like they are. ign only has two decent editors and they're both on the pc team. and im not a 360 fanboy, its not my fault its been the best console this gen
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[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

IMO I prefer Sony exclusives, I am the opposite. Halo and Gears are only 10 hour games to me, I don't pay for XBL so as you can see owning those games is pretty pointelss. However if a campaign is good I will replay it multiple times (I beat Uncharted 2 like over 10 times),andPS3 has plenty of great online games aswell. So just for me, I personally prefer the PS3 library. I haven't found anything on 360 as good as Uncharted or MGS4 or LBP.

But to each his own.

ShadowMoses900

You're ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it? XBL isn't required to play Halo, did I ever mention ONLINE in my post? All those games (Halo, Gears, Minecraft, etc) are also sporting a feature that nearly ZERO PS3 games have: local multiplayer. You ever heard of a LAN party? Yea well it's a lot easier with 4 Xboxs and a few Halo copies. Every bit of the games can be played splitscreen, making a great party game/great way for a bunch of people to enjoy a game.

Meanwhile, PS3 exclusives are all ether single player, or don't have this option, so in order to play co-op, your frind not only has to own the game, but own the system and innternet as well. In college (like me) not everyone has that luxury. Splitscreen/multiple player capability is a godsend.

I feel so sorry for you. You see, I don't care how goo UC2 is, if you had the luxury of games that last years or games that have amazing online components, you would NEVER play a campaign 10 times in 3 years. Ps3 does not have lots of great online games either. The ones that are, are multiplat and can be played elsewhere (Borderlands 2 for example)

Wow....someone is PMSing today.

Calm down francis, take a deep beath and go outside for a bit.

:lol::lol::lol:

typical response when your argument falls apart.

And with that, I rest my case:cool:

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"Done by the experts at IGN...." First time I've heard "IGN" and "experts" in the same sentence. :lol:
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#41 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="gameofthering"] I don't see why they wouldn't have a choice?

gameofthering

IGN explains why. You buy the 360, you buy XBL Gold every year, this is where your friends are at, this is where your achievments are at. When the 720 comes out, MS will no doubt drop all support for the 360, meaning if you primary game on 360 you won't be getting any more games.

The only way you can is if you get the 720, you arn't going to let your XBL Gold go to waste, you arn't going to lose all your friends or achievements, you are too invested in your system and MS knows it. They know their consumers will buy it to play the next COD or Halo with their friends.

Sony has a similar strategy with their PS3, trophies, friends etc....only difference is that Sony is focused on making exclusives and becoming a big publisher where as MS is focused on making the Xbox brand a home media hub first and a game system second.

MS does not need to make many exclusives for the Xbox brand to be successful, they just need to keep getting timed DLC for COD (and other games) and throw out Halo and Gears every once in a while. Sony strategy is having more exclusives while keeping the same multiplats.

Both of these strategies have worked out for them well this gen, as evident by the fact that they are neck and neck in sales. The question is what will happen next gen? Do you think consumers will be satisfied with MS lack of exclusives? Or do you think consumers don't care about exclusives as much as Sony thinks?

That didn't really stop my friends from going from 360 to PS3 :P They went from playing COD on 360 to COD on PS3...

I don't think achievements/trophies are enough to prevent people from switching.

Ya it's not so cut and dry, but it will be interesting to see. But you would be surprised at how many people care a lot about trophies/achievements.

I don't know why the Xbox guys are getting so upset....they are acting like this thread slapped them in the face, and for no reason at all.

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Top ten selling games of 2011 according to the NPD.

1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)

2. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)

3. Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)

4. Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)

5. Madden NFL 12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PS2)

6. Call of Duty: Black Ops (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PC)

7. Batman: Arkham City (360, PS3, PC)

8. Gears of War 3 (360)

9. Just Dance 2 (Wii)

10. Assassin's Creed: Revelations (360, PS3, PC)

Where's Uncharted 3? Where's LBP2?

M$ is in the business of making their games division profitable... If a title doesn't sell they don't support it. It sucks for gamers but this is a business. And with soooo many 3rd parties making games for All systems, why invest in an IP? At least that's what M$ is thinking.

OhSnapitz
Top Selling Games of 2012 According to Future NPD: 1. Call of Duty:Black Ops 2 (360, PS3, Wii U, PC) 2. Halo 4 (360) 3. Just Dance 4 (Wii, 360, PS3, Wii U) 4. Borderlands 2 (360, PS3, PC) 5. Assassin's Creed 3 (360, PS3, PC) 6. Madden 13 (360, PS3, Wii, Wii U, Vita, PC) 7. Medal of Honor: Warfighter (360, PS3, PC) 8. Diablo 3 (PC) 9. New Super Mario Bros U (Wii U) 10. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3) Where's PS All Stars? LBP Karting?
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#44 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

You're ignorance truly is bliss, isn't it? XBL isn't required to play Halo, did I ever mention ONLINE in my post? All those games (Halo, Gears, Minecraft, etc) are also sporting a feature that nearly ZERO PS3 games have: local multiplayer. You ever heard of a LAN party? Yea well it's a lot easier with 4 Xboxs and a few Halo copies. Every bit of the games can be played splitscreen, making a great party game/great way for a bunch of people to enjoy a game.

Meanwhile, PS3 exclusives are all ether single player, or don't have this option, so in order to play co-op, your frind not only has to own the game, but own the system and innternet as well. In college (like me) not everyone has that luxury. Splitscreen/multiple player capability is a godsend.

I feel so sorry for you. You see, I don't care how goo UC2 is, if you had the luxury of games that last years or games that have amazing online components, you would NEVER play a campaign 10 times in 3 years. Ps3 does not have lots of great online games either. The ones that are, are multiplat and can be played elsewhere (Borderlands 2 for example)

Plagueless

Wow....someone is PMSing today.

Calm down francis, take a deep beath and go outside for a bit.

:lol::lol::lol:

typical response when your argument falls apart.

And with that, I rest my case:cool:

What argument? It was just a childish tantrume filled with insults because someone had a different opinion. This is why SW is the worst community.

Nothing you said was objective.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Wow....someone is PMSing today.

Calm down francis, take a deep beath and go outside for a bit.

Bruce_Benzing

So that's your response when someone totally shreds your weak attempt at an argument?

That's why a lot of people don't bother with him. Last thread he bailed on was the one about DayZ.
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#46 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="Plagueless"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

The biggest name in the industry says hi. It's IGN.

They are number 1 for a reason, wether you like it or not. If they weren't credible the masses woudn't go to them for reviews/news, which by the way, IGN always get's first.

When a dev does interviews they always go to IGN first, at E3 IGN had WAY more interviews with devs and far earlier, this is because IGN is the big dog in the industry. IGN is certainly more of an expert than you, they get paid to do this for a living, you do not, you are not an expert. So what makes you credible and not IGN?

TheGuardian03

This right here is the EXACT REASON they aren't credible. IGN is a site where everyone goes to see the maistream games get praised.

Remember the old nicknam, 9GN? That's because IGN is always afraid they'll lose that mainstream audience if they review a popular game poorly, and so EVERY mainstream game gets a 9 or higher.

Exactly. Also IGN has some of the biggest PS fanboys, lol at giving Uncharted 3 a 10 that was a fanboy review with so much hyperbole, IGN gets paid to give AAA scores and 10's and some of their reviewes are just terrible. IGN has zero credibility just like TC.

So because a reviewer gives Uncharted 3 a 10 that makes him a fanboy and biased? Well what about GS? They gave it a 9, that's just a point less, are they fanboys too? What about all the other reviewers that gave the games 9's and 10's? Fanboys as well? Your logi makes no sense.

Also prove the bold.

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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Wow....someone is PMSing today.

Calm down francis, take a deep beath and go outside for a bit.

freedomfreak

So that's your response when someone totally shreds your weak attempt at an argument?

That's why a lot of people don't bother with him. Last thread he bailed on was the one about DayZ.

Oh another graduate from the Kuri School of Internet Debate.....

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SM, you are hyping black ops 2 to be best FPS ever because PS3 has no exclusive coming out???SNIPER4321
if so thats pretty pathetic seeing as how the ps3 has the inferior version anyways :lol:
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#50 ShadowMoses900
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SM, you are hyping black ops 2 to be best FPS ever because PS3 has no exclusive coming out???SNIPER4321

I am hyping Black Ops 2 because it looks amazing. PS3 has LBP karting and All Stars but Black Ops 2 looks to be the best game this year, hands down.