IGN: Why does 360 lose exclusives?

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#101 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] lol You're just pathetic. One day you're trolling. The other day you're not. You're just a stupid cow that pulls the "I waz trollorz" when people call you out on your BS. And lol@rallying behind fellow 360 owners. Your account is dedicated to your PS3. I can actually enjoy all consoles and their games because I'm not some dumbass fanboy.freedomfreak

Funny being called pathetic by a guy with girls always in his sig. Must make up for being lonely I guess....

I enjoy all consoels too, Gears 3 is one of the best games I ever played.

Oh, judging people by their avatars and sigs now? Guess you're a basement dwelling virgin since your avatar is a dark elf. YOUR gamertag doesn't even have GeoW3 in it. Much like your PSN ID doesn't have BF3 in it. But keep running your mouth like you always do.

I don't have Gears 3, I played it at my friends house. BF3 I actually played it on PC, not my PC though. I have Bad Company 2.

I seem to have struck a nerve there, anything you want to talk about?

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#103 ShadowMoses900
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Colin brought up a really good point, which I believe is the main reason for the Xbox 360's success. The 360 is trying to be the center of the living room device and that relies on XBL being at the center of everything. The XBL experience is compelling enough to get people to buy any game on Xbox 360, not just exclusives and that's what drives the Xbox 360's success. Their is no doubt that Sony has developed/published a much larger, diverse and arguably a better lineup of games than Microsoft but PSN lacks in the social aspect of an online service that keeps people engaged with each other. Microsoft doesn't care about exclusives if they can offer a better overall experience around XBL and it worked this generation. I also agree with another point, Sony needs to launch the PS4 before the Xbox 720. Sony needs a headstart to capture the hardcore because they'll be able to establish a strong core market by providing great exclusive games. Nonstop-Madness

I do not know if Sony will release PS4 before 720, I don't think they will. But who knows, anything is possible really.

The strategies for next gen are quite interesting.

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#105 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Funny being called pathetic by a guy with girls always in his sig. Must make up for being lonely I guess....

I enjoy all consoels too, Gears 3 is one of the best games I ever played.

ShadowMoses900

Oh, judging people by their avatars and sigs now? Guess you're a basement dwelling virgin since your avatar is a dark elf. YOUR gamertag doesn't even have GeoW3 in it. Much like your PSN ID doesn't have BF3 in it. But keep running your mouth like you always do.

I don't have Gears 3, I played it at my friends house. BF3 I actually played it on PC, not my PC though. I have Bad Company 2.

I seem to have struck a nerve there, anyt hing you want to talk about?

Oh yes, at a friend's house. Forgot. You didn't struck a nerve. That comment does prove you're running out of things to say. The equivalent of "u mad". Tsk tsk tsk.
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#107 Zeviander
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Losing what now? Doesn't the 360 have like 2 less AA+ exclusive games on Gamespot?
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#109 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] Ok none can provide any proof that they get paid to give 10's, its my word against yours. But when it comes to seeing if Greg is a sony fanboy you don't need google, you have your own eyes to see, are you really google searching to see if he is a fanboy? Do you have the ability to think and realize things by yourself ? or whatever link you find on google is fact? TheGuardian03

Glad you admitted that you were making a basless claim, there is no reason to think IGN is bribed.

I don't see how Greg Miller is a Sony fanboy, he just has an opinion like everyone else. I don't agree with him all the time either like you might believe (I felt he overexagerated the Star Hawk and Twisted Metal reivew) but that's just HIS opinion. He has a right to it, at no point did I say "oh he's just a dumb fanboy".

Using your logic you would be calling the people that give Halo and Gears high scores fanboys too. What if Halo 4 comes out and it get's a 10, does that mean they are just being fanboys too? Lol see your logic is flawed. People have different opinions, if you don't like it then go put a helmet on.

It is his opinion but its an opinion of a fanboy, he is biased. Those people who give Halo or gears high scores i wouldn't call fanboys because i don't know the reviewer, but i do know Greg and he is a Sony Fanboy. I'm starting to think you don't know what a fanboy is, you just say this is his opinion, yes its his opnion but an opinion of a fanboy. Why do cows defend the PS3? because they are fanboys, that's not hard to understand. You don't need a link from google to see through someones bias, greg is a sony fanboy and most people can see it.

Bias exists in all forms of media, wether it be movies, news, or video game reivews. However regardless of wether or not you think a particular reviewer is a fanboy, it still does not change the fact that they have an opinion. If you don't like their opinion then that's you business, just ignore it.

There are some publications I find to be a bit to nit picky, like Edge, I find them to have a very "white glove" kind of attitude when it comes to games. But that is their opinion and they have every right to it. I don't think it makes them fanboys or non credible. It's just their opinion.

I think Greg Miller gives honest reviews which is why I like watching him. I don't agree with him on everything, no one would agree with someone else on everything, but I do trust his reviews and find most of them to be helpful.

Of course your own opinion matters more than that of a reviewer.

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#110 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Funny being called pathetic by a guy with girls always in his sig. Must make up for being lonely I guess....

I enjoy all consoels too, Gears 3 is one of the best games I ever played.

ShadowMoses900

Oh, judging people by their avatars and sigs now? Guess you're a basement dwelling virgin since your avatar is a dark elf. YOUR gamertag doesn't even have GeoW3 in it. Much like your PSN ID doesn't have BF3 in it. But keep running your mouth like you always do.

I don't have Gears 3, I played it at my friends house. BF3 I actually played it on PC, not my PC though. I have Bad Company 2.

I seem to have struck a nerve there, anything you want to talk about?

Oh of course, you played them at friend's houses. And the way you go on and on about BF3 made it sound like you had it yourself. You're very opinionated about games you don't actually own.

There is so much fakeboy in you

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#111 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Losing what now? Doesn't the 360 have like 2 less AA+ exclusive games on Gamespot? Zeviander

It is losing at the e-peen tournament going on here on SW

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#112 Frostbite24
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The only thing reading this thread has taught me is that Shadow doesn't have that part of the brain that tells you when you been owned.....countless times by multiple users. His ability to pretend like those solid arguments against his ignorance aren't completely damning against his intelligence is astonishing.

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#113 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="rjdofu"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Glad you admitted that you were making a basless claim, there is no reason to think IGN is bribed.

I don't see how Greg Miller is a Sony fanboy, he just has an opinion like everyone else. I don't agree with him all the time either like you might believe (I felt he overexagerated the Star Hawk and Twisted Metal reivew) but that's just HIS opinion. He has a right to it, at no point did I say "oh he's just a dumb fanboy".

Using your logic you would be calling the people that give Halo and Gears high scores fanboys too. What if Halo 4 comes out and it get's a 10, does that mean they are just being fanboys too? Lol see your logic is flawed. People have different opinions, if you don't like it then go put a helmet on.

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Greg is not a Sony fanboy??? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: my side... :lol::lol::lol:

Greg just loves his PS3, so much he sleeps with it, no no he is far from a sony fanboy.

Yeah, more like a lover, or a Sony slave :lol:
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#114 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Oh, judging people by their avatars and sigs now? Guess you're a basement dwelling virgin since your avatar is a dark elf. YOUR gamertag doesn't even have GeoW3 in it. Much like your PSN ID doesn't have BF3 in it. But keep running your mouth like you always do.freedomfreak

I don't have Gears 3, I played it at my friends house. BF3 I actually played it on PC, not my PC though. I have Bad Company 2.

I seem to have struck a nerve there, anyt hing you want to talk about?

Oh yes, at a friend's house. Forgot. You didn't struck a nerve. That comment does prove you're running out of things to say. The equivalent of "u mad". Tsk tsk tsk.

Not mad at all friend. Today is a great day.

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#115 Lems_R_Tools
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i love how all the Tools (aka Lems) are getting butthurt over this article. They know its true and they have no counter argument so they have to resort to "LOL IGN" or " they is biased":roll:

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#117 rjdofu
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The only thing reading this thread has taught me is that Shadow doesn't have that part of the brain that tells you when you been owned.....countless times by multiple users. His ability to pretend like those solid arguments against his ignorance aren't completely damning against his intelligence is astonishing.

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#118 Frostbite24
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i love how all the Tools (aka Lems) are getting butthurt over this article. They know its true and they have no counter argument so they have to resort to "LOL IGN" or " they is biased":roll:

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I like your username.
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#119 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't have Gears 3, I played it at my friends house. BF3 I actually played it on PC, not my PC though. I have Bad Company 2.

I seem to have struck a nerve there, anyt hing you want to talk about?

ShadowMoses900

Oh yes, at a friend's house. Forgot. You didn't struck a nerve. That comment does prove you're running out of things to say. The equivalent of "u mad". Tsk tsk tsk.

Not mad at all friend. Today is a great day.

This is your cue. Time to bail out.
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#120 kidsareAjoke
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The 360 fanbase does not buy very many exclusives. Straight up lie i bought xbox360 because of exclusive games because i have a gaming pc to play superior multplats. people like me got f*cked over
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#121 TheDidact
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i love how all the Tools (aka Lems) are getting butthurt over this article. They know its true and they have no counter argument so they have to resort to "LOL IGN" or " they is biased":roll:

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#122 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="Bruce_Benzing"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes laugh at something instead of giving it a response because you can't debunk it. You are using the same logic as people who dismiss evolution, they often say "lol evolution" as a means to dismiss it because they can't argue against it.

ShadowMoses900

You can't argue against flawed Logic. The article is based solely off of blind speculation that both companies will employ the very same stratedy that they employed this gen. Why would Sony use the same business model next gen, if the business model this gen has been a huge financial strain on the company?

The strain came from over priced system, if PS3 was the same price as 360 at launch it would have been a different story. Sony's stratgey seems to be pretty solid, it is neck and neck with the 360 after all despite it's bad early years.

MS has a good strategy too, but that is not the point. The point is you should ask a question, what strategy do you as a gamer prefer? MS or Sony? Not saying either answer is wrong, it's just a preference.

And it is not an article it is a video. I don't think you even clicked the link.... :(

Actually i'm definitely getting the Nextbox and if the ps4 rocks the house I'll end up getting that too...It's all good from where I sit
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#124 ShadowMoses900
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Losing what now? Doesn't the 360 have like 2 less AA+ exclusive games on Gamespot? Zeviander

Did you watch the video? Probably not.

It is referring to mainly current times, and the strategies each company is focusing on. MS does not feel the need to make new IP's or many exclusives in genearl because they don't need to. They do well by making Halo and Gears occasionaly and getting timed DLC for COD. Their strategy for next gen will be to focus on making the Xbox into a home media hub and continue their trend of Halo, Gears, Forza, Timed DLC etc....

That is what they are talking about. The strategy, and what one do gamers prefer. However many people are too invested in their systems as it is, so MS knows the next Xbox will sell regardless.

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#125 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I don't have Gears 3, I played it at my friends house. BF3 I actually played it on PC, not my PC though. I have Bad Company 2.

I seem to have struck a nerve there, anyt hing you want to talk about?

Oh yes, at a friend's house. Forgot. You didn't struck a nerve. That comment does prove you're running out of things to say. The equivalent of "u mad". Tsk tsk tsk.

I just played Uncharted 4 at a friends house, you better believe me. lol

I don't even need proof. You played it at a friends house,so it must.be true.
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#126 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="Lems_R_Tools"]

i love how all the Tools (aka Lems) are getting butthurt over this article. They know its true and they have no counter argument so they have to resort to "LOL IGN" or " they is biased":roll:

TheDidact

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

Regardless of his obviously fanboy user name, he is correct. People that pefer 360 seem to be very sensitive about this thread, they are getting upset over nothing.

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#127 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Oh yes, at a friend's house. Forgot. You didn't struck a nerve. That comment does prove you're running out of things to say. The equivalent of "u mad". Tsk tsk tsk.

I just played Uncharted 4 at a friends house, you better believe me. lol

I don't even need proof. You played it at a friends house,so it must.be true.

I might have believed Shadow's claim except he went too far and said he had a friend. :lol: We're not idiots here, did he really think we'd fall for that?
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#128 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] I just played Uncharted 4 at a friends house, you better believe me. lol

I don't even need proof. You played it at a friends house,so it must.be true.

I might have believed Shadow's claim except he went too far and said he had a friend. :lol: We're not idiots here, did he really think we'd fall for that?

rofl
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#129 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I was trolling in that thread, it obviously wasn't serious. If you couldn't tell that then just LOL at you.

You are just as bad as I am sometimes, you're just doing the bro fists because 360 is your primary gaming console and this thread for whatever reason makes you upest, so you are rallying behind your fellow 360 gamers.

Not that I care though, none of you are actually discussing what the video link was about. You are just ganging up on me instead, don't shoot the messenger. If you can't argue with the source then that's your fault not mine.

ShadowMoses900

lol You're just pathetic. One day you're trolling. The other day you're not. You're just a stupid cow that pulls the "I waz trollorz" when people call you out on your BS. And lol@rallying behind fellow 360 owners. Your account is dedicated to your PS3. I can actually enjoy all consoles and their games because I'm not some dumbass fanboy.

Funny being called pathetic by a guy with girls always in his sig. Must make up for being lonely I guess....

:lol: :lol:

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#130 TopTierHustler
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You're becoming increasingly fanboyish and I don't think you realize it.

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#131 spiderluck
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[QUOTE="TheDidact"][QUOTE="Lems_R_Tools"]

i love how all the Tools (aka Lems) are getting butthurt over this article. They know its true and they have no counter argument so they have to resort to "LOL IGN" or " they is biased":roll:

ShadowMoses900

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

Regardless of his obviously fanboy user name, he is correct. People that pefer 360 seem to be very sensitive about this thread, they are getting upset over nothing.

What's to get upset about...really??...This view does not take into account that a huge number of new IP's always appear for the most part at the beginning of a new gen....I can smell Destiny and yes even Samaritan and I'm sure a slew of others ...MS loves money and will do what is necessary to maintain that flow of greenbacks
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#132 k2theswiss
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people is already sold on the 360. So late in this gen that anyone really want a 360 would already gotten one. exclusives don't matter to me. What matters is great games
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#133 kidsareAjoke
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people is already sold on the 360. So late in this gen that anyone really want a 360 would already gotten one. exclusives don't matter to me. What matters is great gamesk2theswiss
Xbox would have no reason to exist if you could buy all it's games on pc same with nintendo and sony.
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#134 kidsareAjoke
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Why did i buy xbox 11-15-2001 launch day? HALO which was exclusive in 2001.
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#135 TilxWLOC
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Funny being called pathetic by a guy with girls always in his sig. Must make up for being lonely I guess....

Obviously_Right

:lol: :lol:

It is funny since this ShadowMoses thinks DoA is for losers because it has girls in it.

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#137 Obviously_Right
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[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Funny being called pathetic by a guy with girls always in his sig. Must make up for being lonely I guess....

TilxWLOC

:lol: :lol:

It is funny since this ShadowMoses thinks DoA is for losers because it has girls in it.

DoA is for losers:?

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#138 kidsareAjoke
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[QUOTE="kidsareAjoke"]Xbox's real fanbase are pc gamers because xbox was originally revealed in a pc gaming magazine. i didnt buy xbox360 for multiplat call of duty 2 i bought it because of exclusives like perfect dark zero and kameo. Exclusives are everything to the original xbox fanbase and microsoft consoles would of been dead 10 years ago without exclusives.

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#139 Zeviander
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MS does not feel the need to make new IP's or many exclusives in genearl because they don't need to.ShadowMoses900
How many new Sony IPs this gen were AAA-rated and 5+ million sellers? Microsoft doesn't need new IP to be financially successful. And in business, financial successes, not winning fanboy wars, is the name of the game.
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#141 JohnnyCageMK
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So what we learned from this thread is shadowmoses doesn't like girls.
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#142 kidsareAjoke
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original xbox totally owns 360 because it had so many new exclusive ips never seen before by companys i havent even heard of before.kidsareAjoke
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#143 Obviously_Right
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So what we learned from this thread is shadowmoses doesn't like girls.JohnnyCageMK

1. He never said that.

2. I didn't know you were a homophobe Johnny, you fit the XBL gamer stereotype perfectly.

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#144 Badosh
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Funny being called pathetic by a guy with girls always in his sig. Must make up for being lonely I guess....

I enjoy all consoels too, Gears 3 is one of the best games I ever played.

ShadowMoses900
lol
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#145 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]MS does not feel the need to make new IP's or many exclusives in genearl because they don't need to.Zeviander
How many new Sony IPs this gen were AAA-rated and 5+ million sellers? Microsoft doesn't need new IP to be financially successful. And in business, financial successes, not winning fanboy wars, is the name of the game.

There are many AAA rated games, though the industry does not use AAA to refer to a games score, that's what SW is wrong about. And many PS3 games do sell quite well, read this: Quick Question: Why do people think PS3 exclusives don't sell...

Go to page 1. Sony is quite successful with their exclusives wether Xbox fanboys like it or not.

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#146 Badosh
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I didn't know you were a homophobe Johnny, you fit the XBL gamer stereotype perfectly.Obviously_Right
1. He never said that. 2. Why are you defending shadow?
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#147 Eddie-Vedder
Member since 2003 • 7810 Posts

Poor lems they can't go more then a couple of hours with ownage finding them.

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#148 Vari3ty
Member since 2009 • 11111 Posts

I'm not really seeing the big deal about the 360 losing Mass Effect as an exclusive. The game came out in 2007, any money that was to made by having it exclusive Microsoft has made. Since they probably sold the rights to the game to EA, they managed to make a bit more money off of it in the process. I don't think anyone really cares about Microsoft losing the exclusivity, except maybe PS3 only gamers who will now have an opportunity to play the game.

Besides, didn't the game launch on the PC also? In that case it was never an exclusive to begin with.

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#149 ShadowMoses900
Member since 2010 • 17081 Posts

[QUOTE="JohnnyCageMK"]So what we learned from this thread is shadowmoses doesn't like girls.Obviously_Right

1. He never said that.

2. I didn't know you were a homophobe Johnny, you fit the XBL gamer stereotype perfectly.

I am not homosexual but I just ignore people who make gay jokes or suggest things like that. It is imature and I am a person that supports gay rights, they should live life free from discrimination.

The reason why I do not like games like DOA is because how they protray girls, the reason people buy that game is to watch cartoon boobs bounce. I love women, I find them to be a gift from God for men to fall in love with and enjoy, but I also respect them.

This is the same reason why I do not like porn, it is not realistic and they treat the girls like dirt. Women do not like to be treated like that in those videos. GS is full of immature people though, mostly kids who have no experience, so they do not know this.

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#150 kidsareAjoke
Member since 2012 • 292 Posts
without exclusive games like halo xbox would of been dead 10 years ago lock thread.