Just saw the 4th Sticky on the SW page, my bad Mods.
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Cows and Lemmings really are the most desperate to win here (and the most unlikely too). I mean it in regards to how both the PC and Wii get discredited just so they can win, its silly.
Dont you think its silly to say a games an exclusive when it really is not? Theres no denying that a game thats on the 360 and not on the PS3 is an advantage, but still, its not an exclusive. You dont need a 360 to play it, thats where it ends. If anything, instead of trying to change rules and make up words you should beg MS to get you guys more exclusives.
Which reminds, does anyone remember when some guys (forgot who it was) made a thread along the lines of Console IR pointer graphics king? What i found funny were the amount of cows/lems laughing, saying fail for excluding the competition when in fact they do the exact same pointless thing.
So... what happened to the wii? Its not a console anymore?
gamedude00
Not a "real" one, it is like the Pinocchio of consoles. :P
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If anything, instead of trying to change rules and make up words you should beg MS to get you guys more exclusives...
shutdown_202
What word did I make up?
It's a cop-out for cows to use two systems against the 360.
fourseamer4
This is so wrong and backwards it isn't funny.
Lems are the ones using multiplats in a debate clearly about exclusives to boost their crappy 2009 lineup.
Scratch the terms "console exclusive" and "company exclusive" from your vocabulary.
[QUOTE="fourseamer4"]
It's a cop-out for cows to use two systems against the 360.
Silverbond
This is so wrong and backwards it isn't funny.
Lems are the ones using multiplats in a debate clearly about exclusives to boost their crappy 2009 lineup.
Scratch the terms "console exclusive" and "company exclusive" from your vocabulary.
Lems aren't the ones screaming "I'll play itz on mah supa-uber PC so noo need for 360." But if it was on the PS3 as well you wouldn't hear cows say that.the pc is the best gaming platform and you want to ignore it? the next vote would be no more wii, and after that countless threads will pop up on how great pc/wii imaginary games are better then the "real consoles" gamessurrealnumber5
Not ignore it, just give it its own section, after all it isn't a console.
I really really wish my console would stop losing to the PC. Boo hoo hoo, cry cry, etc
10thwonder
qq, the PC is kicking ass and shares libraries with the 360 and PS3. You don't get to pretend that the PC doesn't exist just because you don't own one, just so you can win.
Deal with it.
[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
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If anything, instead of trying to change rules and make up words you should beg MS to get you guys more exclusives...
10thwonder
What word did I make up?
Console Wars, its in your poll title. Sorry, i didnt give you an answer to the question.
No GS should not make a Console Wars just so lemmings can feel better.
You also said somwhere that the Wii isnt a real console? whys that?
[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="fourseamer4"]
It's a cop-out for cows to use two systems against the 360.
fourseamer4
This is so wrong and backwards it isn't funny.
Lems are the ones using multiplats in a debate clearly about exclusives to boost their crappy 2009 lineup.
Scratch the terms "console exclusive" and "company exclusive" from your vocabulary.
Lems aren't the ones screaming "I'll play itz on mah supa-uber PC so noo need for 360." But if it was on the PS3 as well you wouldn't hear cows say that.Nah. Instead lems are screaming, "It's teh consloe exclusive!!!11!!!"
And then cows proceed with the laughter.
So you want to change the rules so your consoles can get the benefit of winning? Now that is INSANELY pathetic.
well cows say multiplat games are exclusives now, i think thats about as twisting of the rules as one can get, MLB any one?So you want to change the rules so your consoles can get the benefit of winning? Now that is INSANELY pathetic.
JangoWuzHere
[QUOTE="10thwonder"]
[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
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If anything, instead of trying to change rules and make up words you should beg MS to get you guys more exclusives...
shutdown_202
What word did I make up?
Console Wars, its in your poll title. Sorry, i didnt give you an answer to the question.
No GS should not make a Console Wars just so lemmings can feel better.
You also said somwhere that the Wii isnt a real console? whys that?
Console and Wars already exist in the dictionary, I didn't make them up, look for yourself.
And the Wii is a console, just not one on par with the 360 and PS3 in terms of hardware and processing power, IIRC I read somewhere that it had about the same processing power as an original Xbox, which is why games like Ghostbusters, and COD WaW are "dumbed down" to make them available to Wii owners.
well cows say multiplat games are exclusives now, i think thats about as twisting of the rules as one can get, MLB any one?[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]
So you want to change the rules so your consoles can get the benefit of winning? Now that is INSANELY pathetic.
surrealnumber5
People always jump on the cows for that too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taito_Type_X#Taito_Type_X.C2.B2 "Taito Type X2" arcade games console = Windows XP based X86 + DX9c GPU based PC.I know this is System Wars, but I really wish that there was a Console Wars section on this site, where debates were left between consoles, so that games like Alan Wake, Gears, Mass Effect 2, etc, could be considered exclusives to compare to the great PS3 exclusives that exist and are coming soon, I don't own a high-end PC which is why I feel this way. (*Puts on flame suit*)
10thwonder
well cows say multiplat games are exclusives now, i think thats about as twisting of the rules as one can get, MLB any one?[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]
So you want to change the rules so your consoles can get the benefit of winning? Now that is INSANELY pathetic.
surrealnumber5
Not really, there was a huge thread on it not too long ago and we decided it wasnt (although there are still some cows clinging on to it). But it wouldnt have gone over so easily if the PS3 didnt already have 2 AAAEs.
Voice from the future: NGS2 is not an exclusive so dont even try it cows when it scores AAA (which we all know it will).
[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Nah. Instead lems are screaming, "It's teh consloe exclusive!!!11!!!"
And then cows proceed with the laughter.
opex07
The most recent attempt at trying to claim a game was console exclusive was MLB09, and wasn't being argued by 360 fans.
Mass Effect. Splinter Cell. Alan Wake. :|
And cows argued it being a company exclusive which is just as wrong console exclusive.
[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
[QUOTE="10thwonder"]
What word did I make up?
10thwonder
Console Wars, its in your poll title. Sorry, i didnt give you an answer to the question.
No GS should not make a Console Wars just so lemmings can feel better.
You also said somwhere that the Wii isnt a real console? whys that?
Console and Wars already exist in the dictionary, I didn't make them up, look for yourself.
And the Wii is a console, just not one on par with the 360 and PS3 in terms of hardware and processing power, IIRC I read somewhere that it had about the same processing power as an original Xbox, which is why games like Ghostbusters, and COD WaW are "dumbed down" to make them available to Wii owners.
I get what your trying to say but the Wii being weak doesnt make it any less of a console or with the competition, as long as it produces games and as so far this year, its ahead of the 360.
And you couldnt have picked to worser examples with those games. COD WAW on the Wii scored the same as the other versions whilst Ghostbusters on the Wii scored the highest.
so basically people/lems (not looking at you TC) want to change the rules to make their system (the 360)look better in comparison to the competition? it shouldnt happen. when a game isnt exclusive its not exclusive, simple as that.
and then lems say cows "hide" behind the PC, and that they need two systems to "combat" one, which is such a load of BS.
[QUOTE="10thwonder"]
[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
Console Wars, its in your poll title. Sorry, i didnt give you an answer to the question.
No GS should not make a Console Wars just so lemmings can feel better.
You also said somwhere that the Wii isnt a real console? whys that?
Console and Wars already exist in the dictionary, I didn't make them up, look for yourself.
And the Wii is a console, just not one on par with the 360 and PS3 in terms of hardware and processing power, IIRC I read somewhere that it had about the same processing power as an original Xbox, which is why games like Ghostbusters, and COD WaW are "dumbed down" to make them available to Wii owners.
I get what your trying to say but the Wii being weak doesnt make it any less of a console or with the competition, as long as it produces games and as so far this year, its ahead of the 360.
And you couldnt have picked to worser examples with those games. COD WAW on the Wii scored the same as the other versions whilst Ghostbusters on the Wii scored the highest.
Wait a minute, I thought Ghost Busters and COD WAW for the 360 was scored the highest. Didn't you mean sales?[QUOTE="opex07"]
[QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Nah. Instead lems are screaming, "It's teh consloe exclusive!!!11!!!"
And then cows proceed with the laughter.
Silverbond
The most recent attempt at trying to claim a game was console exclusive was MLB09, and wasn't being argued by 360 fans.
Mass Effect. Splinter Cell. Alan Wake. :|
Do you have any links to threads made to argue that those games are exclusive, because I have yet to see one other than Alan Wake and that's only because the PC version was thought to be dropped.[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="opex07"]
The most recent attempt at trying to claim a game was console exclusive was MLB09, and wasn't being argued by 360 fans.
opex07
Mass Effect. Splinter Cell. Alan Wake. :|
Do you have any links to threads made to argue that those games are exclusive, because I have yet to see one other than Alan Wake and that's only because the PC version was thought to be dropped.Right here. Have fun reading through all 740 posts.
[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]Wait a minute, I thought Ghost Busters and COD WAW for the 360 was scored the highest. Didn't you mean sales?I get what your trying to say but the Wii being weak doesnt make it any less of a console or with the competition, as long as it produces games and as so far this year, its ahead of the 360.
And you couldnt have picked to worser examples with those games. COD WAW on the Wii scored the same as the other versions whilst Ghostbusters on the Wii scored the highest.
Nubiitking
Na for WAW all platforms scored 8.5. For Ghostbusters the PS3 and 360 version scored 7.5 and the Wii version scored 8.0. Anyway im confused what i was talking about now and with that im done.
Honestly, all i would say is dont take this place so seriously. I mean even if they cant be seen as exclusives this place is all just for fun.
Peace homie.
[QUOTE="gamedude00"]
So... what happened to the wii? Its not a console anymore?
10thwonder
Not a "real" one, it is like the Pinocchio of consoles. :P
That must make the other consoles worse if they are selling less :shock:
I get what your trying to say but the Wii being weak doesnt make it any less of a console or with the competition, as long as it produces games and as so far this year, its ahead of the 360.
And you couldnt have picked to worser examples with those games. COD WAW on the Wii scored the same as the other versions whilst Ghostbusters on the Wii scored the highest.
shutdown_202
I recognize the Wii as a console, and the two games I listed were the first two to spring to mind (I agree that they probably were thetwo worst examples I could have picked looking back on the scores they got), I just meant that you can't get direct ports of games offered on the 360 or PS3 onto the Wii without making compromises in terms of graphics, not gameplay.
"Should the rules change just to benefit the 360?" Nah.Floppy_JimCouldn't have said it any better... With that said, who cares? :? Seriously... a great game no matter what system it's available on is great nonetheless. If we want to compare console exclusives and whatnot that's fine, but if it's on PC and PS3/360 only, it's not exclusive to that one platform the way I see it. Does that mean playing the game on PC over the console is that big a deal? Not unless the game is totally and completely unplayable for one system.
[QUOTE="10thwonder"]
[QUOTE="gamedude00"]
So... what happened to the wii? Its not a console anymore?
AmayaPapaya
Not a "real" one, it is like the Pinocchio of consoles. :P
That must make the other consoles worse if they are selling less :shock:
It's cheaper to buy a marionette than it is a real person :D
Do you have any links to threads made to argue that those games are exclusive, because I have yet to see one other than Alan Wake and that's only because the PC version was thought to be dropped.[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Mass Effect. Splinter Cell. Alan Wake. :|
Silverbond
Right here. Have fun reading through all 740 posts.
That thread isn't about the specific titles you listed, the TC was clearly comparing both libraries due to both the PS3 and 360 having PC(360/PS3) titles being included in their lists. The last game I know of to have its own specific thread was MLB09, having a thread about multiply titles that mention multiplats isn't the same thing.If you want to compare games so that Mass Effect 2 etc. count, you can just compare ALL games on both systems. The games they share with each other will negate each other and the games that are left will decide the outcome. It's up to you, I see no rules preventing such comparison.
However, if you are comparing EXCLUSIVES you cannot include multiplats just to change the outcome to your liking, it's simply not logical.
You can Play MGS4 on a PS3 or not play it at all, same for Killzone 2, and coming up next Heavy Rain (more or less the Ps3's answer to Alan wake) will be only available for Ps3. A game is exclusive when people are forced to shell out a certain amount of money to buy a particular platform in order to play (X,Y or Z Game), If you can choose to upgrade a PC into a gaming rig to play alan wake and LOL at the 360s sitting on the shelves collecting dust as you pass by, Im afraid that doesn't kind of fit the definition of exclusive now does it?
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