IGN-"Killing Samus" Agree/Disagree?

In this article by IGN they feel that Other M destroyed the character of Samus we enivnisoned in the past during the cutscenes. So do you agree or disagree with the assessment?

IGN's QQ up in hurr.

could you give me the rundown of what other m did to samus? I keep hearing that they ruined her, but I don't know what they didohthemanatee

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Well this isint IGN as a whole agreeing with this. This is 1 person who works there. Since the person who actually reviewed the game liked the way she was handeled. I personally also like how she was handeled.

this is the first time that i'm interested in the metroid series, I played it on the nes and super nes but it never stood out to me. I haven't played the other M yet but giving her a voice actually made it interesting for me

Well since they also think the new Dante is a good idea I wouldnt listen to them much.

could you give me the rundown of what other m did to samus? I keep hearing that they ruined her, but I don't know what they didohthemanatee

Its kinda hard to jsut ask since there are those who grossly exaggerate. This is a situation that its best to play and see it.

Well this isint IGN as a whole agreeing with this. This is 1 person who works there. Since the person who actually reviewed the game liked the way she was handeled. I personally also like how she was handeled.

finalfantasy94

Yeah, and you also like how Ninja Theory is handling the new DmC. You truly are a... unique individual, finalfantasy... :?

What's the complaining about?

Those aren't the same people complaining about Sonic's leg length are they?

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Well this isint IGN as a whole agreeing with this. This is 1 person who works there. Since the person who actually reviewed the game liked the way she was handeled. I personally also like how she was handeled.

Master_ShakeXXX

Yeah, and you also like how Ninja Theory is handling the new DmC. You truly are a... unique individual, finalfantasy... :?

Well must be alot of other unique individuals out there too. I also take the term unique as a complement so thank you sir.

I enjoyed the game gameplay wise but Samus portrayal in the other M wasn't that good. They ditched the cool and claim Samus Aran and gave us another run of the mill over emotional female character (the ones we're use to seeing in a lot of anime)

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Willy105

Theres no "mutual" option? Anywho, I will say that Other M had some very questionable story elements, however, I am honestly getting sick of the stereotypical sexism that I see in connotation to her character. Its really annoying.

Im a hardcore Metroid fan just like many but I will not exaggerate like most and say that Other M destroyed Samus's character because it didn't. I am also getting sick of the vocal "professional" journalist who flat out nip-pick the smallest details and explode them into exaggerated problems and under-meanings.Its funny that no one has yet to prove any true evidence behind their claims other than the typical, "but thats not how WEimagined Samus..."

I can easily understand people not liking the direction, story and so much of what the game was trying to do, but to claim that Samus was ruinedis just down right stupid.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Well this isint IGN as a whole agreeing with this. This is 1 person who works there. Since the person who actually reviewed the game liked the way she was handeled. I personally also like how she was handeled.

Master_ShakeXXX

Yeah, and you also like how Ninja Theory is handling the new DmC. You truly are a... unique individual, finalfantasy... :?

Theres no "mutual" option? Anywho, I will say that Other M had some very questionable story elements, however, I am honestly getting sick of the stereotypical sexism that I see in connotation to her character. Its really annoying.

Im a hardcore Metroid fan just like many but I will not exaggerate like most and say that Other M destroyed Samus's character because it didn't. I am also getting sick of the vocal "professional" journalist who flat out nip-pick the smallest details and explode them into exaggerated problems and under-meanings.Its funny that no one has yet to prove any true evidence behind their claims other than the typical, "but thats not how WEimagined Samus..."

I can easily understand people not liking the direction, story and so much of what the game was trying to do, but to claim that Samus was ruinedis just down right stupid.

mexicangordo

I dont understand this line may you please explain.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Well this isint IGN as a whole agreeing with this. This is 1 person who works there. Since the person who actually reviewed the game liked the way she was handeled. I personally also like how she was handeled.

finalfantasy94

Yeah, and you also like how Ninja Theory is handling the new DmC. You truly are a... unique individual, finalfantasy... :?

Well must be alot of other unique individuals out there too. I also take the term unique as a complement so thank you sir.

Take it any way you want to. I know what I meant by it ;)

I like what they did to Samus and I like even more what they are doing to Dante. Give one reason why that's bad...

I'm just gonna pretend it never happened

Disagree. I'm fine with Samus having a personality that makes her seem very human.

Don't agree at all. I didn't think of Samus as a butch **** in the first place.

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Theres no "mutual" option? Anywho, I will say that Other M had some very questionable story elements, however, I am honestly getting sick of the stereotypical sexism that I see in connotation to her character. Its really annoying.

Im a hardcore Metroid fan just like many but I will not exaggerate like most and say that Other M destroyed Samus's character because it didn't. I am also getting sick of the vocal "professional" journalist who flat out nip-pick the smallest details and explode them into exaggerated problems and under-meanings.Its funny that no one has yet to prove any true evidence behind their claims other than the typical, "but thats not how WEimagined Samus..."

I can easily understand people not liking the direction, story and so much of what the game was trying to do, but to claim that Samus was ruinedis just down right stupid.

finalfantasy94

I dont understand this line may you please explain.

Disagree. I'm fine with Samus having a personality that makes her seem very human.

princemarth23

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Willy105

everyone should listen to this. it makes sense

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Theres no "mutual" option? Anywho, I will say that Other M had some very questionable story elements, however, I am honestly getting sick of the stereotypical sexism that I see in connotation to her character. Its really annoying.

Im a hardcore Metroid fan just like many but I will not exaggerate like most and say that Other M destroyed Samus's character because it didn't. I am also getting sick of the vocal "professional" journalist who flat out nip-pick the smallest details and explode them into exaggerated problems and under-meanings.Its funny that no one has yet to prove any true evidence behind their claims other than the typical, "but thats not how WEimagined Samus..."

I can easily understand people not liking the direction, story and so much of what the game was trying to do, but to claim that Samus was ruinedis just down right stupid.

mexicangordo

I dont understand this line may you please explain.

I see where you are coming from adn I agree.

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Willy105

>Different opinion than my own = they are bad

how they portrayed her was fine.. if she would have been a badass..would have been fine too.

dont care either way.

Theres no "mutual" option? Anywho, I will say that Other M had some very questionable story elements, however, I am honestly getting sick of the stereotypical sexism that I see in connotation to her character. Its really annoying.

Im a hardcore Metroid fan just like many but I will not exaggerate like most and say that Other M destroyed Samus's character because it didn't. I am also getting sick of the vocal "professional" journalist who flat out nip-pick the smallest details and explode them into exaggerated problems and under-meanings.Its funny that no one has yet to prove any true evidence behind their claims other than the typical, "but thats not how WEimagined Samus..."

I can easily understand people not liking the direction, story and so much of what the game was trying to do, but to claim that Samus was ruinedis just down right stupid.

mexicangordo

One thing's for Sure, Metroid Other M split the fans from "Fans" to Fans.

No, her character was no different than it was in fusion. If they wanted lara croft in power armor, they played the wrong game.

Just think if this characterization happened to another character, Master Chief or Gordon Freeman for example, I doubt many of the people saying it's ok would agree then. I'm not one of those who are saying that she shouldn't have character because I think she should, I just disagree with making her such a cliche female protagonist.

Just think if this characterization happened to another character, Master Chief or Gordon Freeman for example, I doubt many of the people saying it's ok would agree then. I'm not one of those who are saying that she shouldn't have character because I think she should, I just disagree with making her such a cliche female protagonist.

marq4porsche

Take Master Chief out of that cause Master Chief had so much more narritive than Samus before Metroid Other M.

Besides there's so much more to the Halo Story Line that I would have never known if I never read the Halo Books or Read Halsey's Journal in the Special Editions of Reach.

[spoiler] like Everyone on Nobel Team except for Jorge is not a Real Spartan [/spoiler]

No I don't agree.

I loved her personality and how much character she had. It was nice to see her relation with other characters and I enjoyed her relationship with Adam ((Like the Father Figure)) it was a touching moment.

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Willy105

That's the truth.

But you see what I'm getting at. It has nothing to do with her being a female, it has to do with her being such a badass character and in this portrayal of her they made her very emotional, even to the point where she can't fight a boss that's been in like every Metroid game before.

this is the first time that i'm interested in the metroid series, I played it on the nes and super nes but it never stood out to me. I haven't played the other M yet but giving her a voice actually made it interesting for me

da_illest101

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Willy105

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Willy105

How would you guys feel if Link started talking???bonzibuddyxxx

How would you guys feel if Link started talking???bonzibuddyxxx

Totally depends on the Character that Nintendo Gives him.

Heck Link is pretty much different in every game. I think in Wind Waker he was a bit cowardly.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

Yeah, they totally ruined her character. She is now three dimensional. Why does she have to be three dimensional? She's a girl!!!! Amirite?

I miss the good IGN.....

Vaasman

Where in Other M is Samus "Whining"?

You mean the Times where it's a FLASHBACK to where she said that she was "Young and Naive"?

or the Time where she

[spoiler] wanted to sacrifice HERSELF instead of Adam sacrificing his? [/spoiler]

I didn't see her Whine be like "WAH! Adam, Daddy! I want to use my Missiles! Wah! *sucks thumb*"

not ONCE did I see that.

You can't ever please anyone with a few changes.:P I found Samus to be a corny as hell but not to the point where I'd mute everything. I thought her voice was good but the script wasn't handled correctly.

This is really an opinion sort of thing. If the next game has a better script then it won't really matter anymore.

Oh dear God, and that's why i consider IGN the worst of the 4 grand gaming sites (GS, IGN, GT, GB), hell, i think i enjoy much more GamesRadar articles than IGN, they are just really bad.

And no, i'm not agree with them at all, Other M was more of a private Samus diary only for herself.

I personally didn't like the way it was presented, but I thought it was a fair try by Nintendo/Team Ninja. The one thing I keep shaking my head at personally is the people who throw out the "orders" complaint. They seem to forget that in Metroid Fusion, she also took orders, from a COMPUTER! She had greater freedom in execution in that title, but the concept was the same, right down to the near chewing out when she forced open the fourth level doors. One last thing, though mostly unrelated: my memory is fuzzy, but wasn't Master Chief taking ORDERS from Cortana during Halo: CE? If Samus is submissive for taking them, being female, wouldn't that also mean that Master Chief is a whipped dog under Cortana's leash?

they didn't kill samus. they killed fans' idea of who samus was.