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#101 ManicAce
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Why even have the decimals really. Why not just go ...7,8,9... etc. Personally I think the 100 point system is the most fun, but if that's too much to handle then might as well do the more realistic 5 star system.
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#102 LOXO7
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I wouldn't mind seeing a 1000 point scale. Counting up from .01, .02, .03...
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#103 Indie_Hitman
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Now it's just matter of time before integer scores and then my work on the internet will be done...
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#104 WTA2k5
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Great, now we're going to get more 9.0's for even more games that don't really deserve it.

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#105 Wasdie  Moderator
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Good. What's the difference between a 9.3 and a 9.4? Nothing.

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#106 abuabed
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That's much better, old rating system is a complete waste since you can't tell the difference between 9.8 & 9.9.

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#107 SapSacPrime
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:x I hate the .5 scale it is awful, the .1 difference is an easier way to indicate which games are better on which system if nothing else. Not only that but it also leads to nab sites giving out too many 10's in one generation... :P.

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#108 Indie_Hitman
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:x I hate the .5 scale it is awful, the .1 difference is an easier way to indicate which games are better on which system if nothing else. Not only that but it also leads to nab sites giving out too many 10's in one generation... :P.

SapSacPrime
No, the source of the large abundance in 9s and 10s is due to the horribly skewed score system. An integer system would help to fix this problem.
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#109 lbjkurono23
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:x I hate the .5 scale it is awful, the .1 difference is an easier way to indicate which games are better on which system if nothing else. Not only that but it also leads to nab sites giving out too many 10's in one generation... :P.

SapSacPrime

Only three games have scored a 10 this gen, using that scale(GS) :P

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#110 foxhound_fox
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:x I hate the .5 scale it is awful, the .1 difference is an easier way to indicate which games are better on which system if nothing else. Not only that but it also leads to nab sites giving out too many 10's in one generation... :P.

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Not really. The main problem is the system being weighted more towards the high end for "average" than the true middle around 5.0. Its why Eurogamer gives out so many lower scores compared to most sites... they actually have a balanced scale that properly represents the positions on the scale. And why games like MGS4 received a 8/10.

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#111 Microsoft1234
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meh the gaming review industry is also completely messed up, it really doesn't matter anyways.
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#112 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]:x I hate the .5 scale it is awful, the .1 difference is an easier way to indicate which games are better on which system if nothing else. Not only that but it also leads to nab sites giving out too many 10's in one generation... :P.foxhound_fox
Not really. The main problem is the system being weighted more towards the high end for "average" than the true middle around 5.0. Its why Eurogamer gives out so many lower scores compared to most sites... they actually have a balanced scale that properly represents the positions on the scale. And why games like MGS4 received a 8/10.

You understand why Eurogamer gave MGS4 8/10. :-3

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#113 Episode_Eve
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

:x I hate the .5 scale it is awful, the .1 difference is an easier way to indicate which games are better on which system if nothing else. Not only that but it also leads to nab sites giving out too many 10's in one generation... :P.

Indie_Hitman

No, the source of the large abundance in 9s and 10s is due to the horribly skewed score system. An integer system would help to fix this problem.

Please explain this integer system to me, friend. I'm cornfussed :? :P.

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#114 muzik_mafia
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Meh. Much preference towards the 100 point scale.

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#115 subrosian
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Why not ditch these stupid systems and just have the Five Star system, that actually makes sense.Episode_Eve

This. You don't need to be any more accurate than an out-of-five scale for the purpose of scoring a game (which is to provide a rough idea of the game's quality to those who don't read the review, not sum up the absolute minutae of a game in a single number).

I like the 5 star scale, but I also like some diversity in review systems. Eurogamer does well with their 1-10 scale, for example, fully utilizing it. So maybe not every single publication should use it; that's just my take. There are some credible sites that use 5 stars, the most notable being Giant Bomb and G4. It's great how they don't translate their scale into 1-100% themselves, because it doesn't make sense.

What is a problem I believe, is aggregate sites like Metacritic and GameRankings using their scores in averages--it doesn't correlate. I think that's a reason Adam Sessler (since he's the editor-in-chief) doesn't want G4 reviews on those sites. I haven't seen any G4 reviews on MC in a while, and knowing Sessler's views on reviews, I've come up with that educated guess :P.

Metacritic is actually bad for the gaming industry, that's why people who are conscientious about their impact on developers want no dice with it. The aggregation of review score data, and the focus on numerical reviews over actual game content / quality just leads to a hamburger-ization of the gaming world. You wind up with a bunch of big budget games trying to mass-appeal themselves into AAA scores, and a bunch of low-budget games trying to cash-in by copying whatever social game was successful. Metacritic perpetuates that, they only way they would ever get an ounce of respect for me after all of the horrible things that have come about because of them, from firings to entire studios being liquidated, is if they posted a public apology and took down their site.

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#116 DA_B0MB
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Personally I'm a fan of Game Informer's .25 increment rating system.
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#117 Indie_Hitman
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

:x I hate the .5 scale it is awful, the .1 difference is an easier way to indicate which games are better on which system if nothing else. Not only that but it also leads to nab sites giving out too many 10's in one generation... :P.

No, the source of the large abundance in 9s and 10s is due to the horribly skewed score system. An integer systemwould help to fix this problem.

Please explain this integer system to me, friend. I'm cornfussed :? :P.

Whole numbers :P ie: 1, 2, 3 ...etc
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#118 foxhound_fox
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You understand why Eurogamer gave MGS4 8/10. :-3

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Well, I did read the review and the review guidelines... and I wasn't surprised given what they said regarding the game. I find it interesting how people just expect everyone to give highly hyped games perfect scores across the board and then criticize them for not doing it.

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#119 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]You understand why Eurogamer gave MGS4 8/10. :-3foxhound_fox
Well, I did read the review and the review guidelines... and I wasn't surprised given what they said regarding the game. I find it interesting how people just expect everyone to give highly hyped games perfect scores across the board and then criticize them for not doing it.

I did a thread on the subject when it was still fresh and pwned some n00bs. It's always nice seeing people who don't bash Eurogamer for giving MGS4 an 8/10 because they understand why they did it.

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#120 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Stupid yet again.. they need to go to the 5 star program.. In which the lowest one is half a star difference.. Furthermore these scales should not be done like grades at a school.. It should be 1 star = trash.. it should equate to the entire gambit of crap games below a 6 or 7 score that very few people should simply not buy.. 2 stars should mean average.. 3 good.. 4 great.. and 5 excellent.. Furthermore I have yet to see any REAL logical reason in the difference between a game thats 8.0 or 8.5.. This is at best a guestimation system, and as such they should use a 5 star system like this.. Especially when more then half of the point system more or less is in the region of garbage.. What the hell kind of sense does that make?
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#121 AAllxxjjnn
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Everyone should just go with the 5 star scale.
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#122 donalbane
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Everyone should just go with the 5 star scale. AAllxxjjnn
Yes I agree.
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#123 iBear-
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]You understand why Eurogamer gave MGS4 8/10. :-3Hexagon_777

Well, I did read the review and the review guidelines... and I wasn't surprised given what they said regarding the game. I find it interesting how people just expect everyone to give highly hyped games perfect scores across the board and then criticize them for not doing it.

I did a thread on the subject when it was still fresh and pwned some n00bs. It's always nice seeing people who don't bash Eurogamer for giving MGS4 an 8/10 because they understand why they did it.

thumbs up 4 pwning n00bs

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#124 iBear-
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I don't think the scale matters as much as the way they grade. More sites should be hard asses like eurogamer

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#125 -The-G-Man-
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I like Game Informer's .25 increments the most
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#126 VendettaRed07
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

good. WTF is the difference between 7.8 and 7.9?

blue_hazy_basic

0.1 :P So will we be seeing even more 9.0's, 9.5's and 10's from IGN?

But there is a difference between a 7.8, and an 8, or a 7.8 and a 7.5..... 7.5= good.. 7.8= pretty good, almost great but not quite, and 8.0= Great... I dont understand why they have to take away the possibilities of scores.. Seriously if you want to give a 7.5 or an 8.0 then just give it one.. Theres NO REASON for them to deny their reviews a little bit more flexibility with there scores...

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#127 siddhu33
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The best system is one with no review score whatsoever.

Failing that, then it would be the 5 point scale (Giantbomb), followed by the 10 point scale (Eurogamer, EDGE)

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#128 VendettaRed07
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I like Game Informer's .25 increments the most-The-G-Man-

Yeah, exactly that would be perfect... Id even be fine with that.. .5 is just to big a difference imo

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#129 Indie_Hitman
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I don't think the scale matters as much as the way they grade. More sites should be hard asses like eurogamer

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Yeah! Though I think they gave Fable 2 a 10... :S But other than that, Yeah!
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#130 deactivated-5c8e4e07d5510
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Good. People pay WAY too much attention to review scores. The point of reviews is to read them, not glance at the score.