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[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Thanks for the info, but why did you post this again? :|
shungokustasu
Same reason why you post. It's a place to post opinions.
Can't argue with that, maybe I'll make you laugh next time.
Well your reputation for well-thought out threads doesn't exactly precede you.[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Whatever. Still doesn't change the fact that based on the responses I get to my posts lately, I feel as if I'm somehow the only person on system wars with an opinion. I guess I'll KEEP ALL OF MY THREADS FOR NOW ON VERY SHORT, because I've learned one thing well in this forum....it is pointless to try to ever get a point across without getting flamed and insulted. AvIdGaMeR444
Yeah, like all those threads that say...
:lol: Lemmings!
...and nothing else! Those are incredibly intelligent. :roll: I'm not saying my threads are smart by any stretch of the imagination, but I do make fairly long posts with my own personal opinions on subjects. I also use facts...PS3 has no rumble...NOT DEBATABLE! PS3 sold same number of units in same time period as 360...NOT DEBATABLE! PS3 is $200 more expensive than premium 360...NOT DEBATABLE. Microsoft trying to steal exclusives away with lots of money....NOT DEBATABLE! But I guess you're right anyway! I need to change my threads and make them well thought out...because God knows there are soooo many of those in system wars with people calling each other names and flaming each other to death. Sorry for having a freaking opinion! Maybe my next thread should just saying ":lol: at the Wii! How kiddy!" without any other substance to it. I'm sure that would be 1,000,000 times better than my posts! :roll:
I'm not familiar with you "history" but, you are certainly making sense in this thread.
[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]Thanks for the info, but why did you post this again? :|
Vyse_The_Daring
Same reason why you post. It's a place to post opinions.
Can't argue with that, maybe I'll make you laugh next time.
looking forward to it.
[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]Maybe the reason everybody says that stuff is because your threads really are pointless and not very well thought out. I mean, jsut look at your Forza 2 thread "Downgrade Confirmed." You know that it's going to be an amazing game and that the jaggies are going to go away with motion yet you keep saying it.MCGSMB
Yet there was another thread earlier with a completely different poster that read something like "147 new Forza 2 pics"...people in that thread were saying "downgrade" right and left and saying how BAD THE PICS LOOKED! But, I guess since I MADE A THREAD ABOUT IT, then people suddenly change their minds. People are out to own me no matter what I say now! It's a fact!
Threads usually derive from logic. How can you logically say that a game looks bad when you haven't seen it played?In system wars, threads derive from logic? :lol: Also, like I said earlier, I was just making another thread similar to the one that had the "147 Forza 2 pics". In the "147 pics" thead, IT WAS GENERALLY AGREED THAT FORZA 2's PICS LOOKED DOWNGRADED! When I made a thread with a Forza 2 pic (the same pic that everyone THOUGHT LOOKED THE WORST IN THE OTHER THREAD) I got bashed hard and got flamed to death. The hypocrisy is overwhelming! THAT is why I'm pissed!
I Doubt it. MS has said themselves that Xbox is a 3 console strategy where they get in the market with Xbox 1, Gain a lot of ground on 360, and then be the market leader with the 3rd Xbox. What they didn't plan for is the colossal F*** UP that is the pathetic PS3. Now they can actually take it this Gen, If they want it.
So competing by getting games now means "afraid"? man just when you think you've seen the most ignorant stuff in here, something else comes up that surprises you. Yea, a company that makes about 4 times more profit and has enough cash to buy Sony outright is afraid of Sony?!!? hahahathemyth01
As far as the gaming industry goes...You'd be a fool to think that MS doesn't consider Sony a threat. This is a gaming forum, we're not talking about the company's other venues.
[QUOTE="MCGSMB"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]Maybe the reason everybody says that stuff is because your threads really are pointless and not very well thought out. I mean, jsut look at your Forza 2 thread "Downgrade Confirmed." You know that it's going to be an amazing game and that the jaggies are going to go away with motion yet you keep saying it.AvIdGaMeR444
Yet there was another thread earlier with a completely different poster that read something like "147 new Forza 2 pics"...people in that thread were saying "downgrade" right and left and saying how BAD THE PICS LOOKED! But, I guess since I MADE A THREAD ABOUT IT, then people suddenly change their minds. People are out to own me no matter what I say now! It's a fact!
Threads usually derive from logic. How can you logically say that a game looks bad when you haven't seen it played?In system wars, threads derive from logic? :lol: Also, like I said earlier, I was just making another thread similar to the one that had the "147 Forza 2 pics". In the "147 pics" thead, IT WAS GENERALLY AGREED THAT FORZA 2's PICS LOOKED DOWNGRADED! When I made a thread with a Forza 2 pic (the same pic that everyone THOUGHT LOOKED THE WORST IN THE OTHER THREAD) I got bashed hard and got flamed to death. The hypocrisy is overwhelming! THAT is why I'm pissed!
And here's "How Not to Make a Flamebait Thread" 101....
"I'll say it again...Microsoft is Afraid of Sony!" - obviously flamebait...why would you feel the need to say it again if you've already posted about this once before? Plus saying that a company is "afraid" of something is a little dumb, seeing as how it's..a company...it doesn't have feelings, so most people are going to assume you're just trying to stir up trouble.
Here's how you might have handled this....
"Sony is Serious Competition for Microsoft" - not flamebait, you could still get your point across this way without sounding like a troll.
I Doubt it. MS has said themselves that Xbox is a 3 console strategy where they get in the market with Xbox 1, Gain a lot of ground on 360, and then be the market leader with the 3rd Xbox. What they didn't plan for is the colossal F*** UP that is the pathetic PS3. Now they can actually take it this Gen, If they want it.
Nugtoka
I doubt that's going to happen. With multiple killer-apps releasing, Home, and a possible price drop. This same thing happened to the PS2 during it's respective life cycle. Don't declare a winner yet.
Why wouldn't MS be scared of the company that dominated the last two generations (especially now that MS launched first)?
I don't think there's anything wrong with a little fear since it promotes strong competition from all sides. MS is trying fairly hard which is pretty good for us consumers. Sony and Nintendo are keeping their cards for 2008 mainly I'm guessing since neither have anything too big this year, but that's allright since PS2 is still going strong.
[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]Maybe the reason everybody says that stuff is because your threads really are pointless and not very well thought out. I mean, jsut look at your Forza 2 thread "Downgrade Confirmed." You know that it's going to be an amazing game and that the jaggies are going to go away with motion yet you keep saying it.D0013ER
Yet there was another thread earlier with a completely different poster that read something like "147 new Forza 2 pics"...people in that thread were saying "downgrade" right and left and saying how BAD THE PICS LOOKED! But, I guess since I MADE A THREAD ABOUT IT, then people suddenly change their minds. People are out to own me no matter what I say now! It's a fact!
Threads usually derive from logic. How can you logically say that a game looks bad when you haven't seen it played?In system wars, threads derive from logic? :lol: Also, like I said earlier, I was just making another thread similar to the one that had the "147 Forza 2 pics". In the "147 pics" thead, IT WAS GENERALLY AGREED THAT FORZA 2's PICS LOOKED DOWNGRADED! When I made a thread with a Forza 2 pic (the same pic that everyone THOUGHT LOOKED THE WORST IN THE OTHER THREAD) I got bashed hard and got flamed to death. The hypocrisy is overwhelming! THAT is why I'm pissed!
And here's "How Not to Make a Flamebait Thread" 101....
"I'll say it again...Microsoft is Afraid of Sony!" - obviously flamebait...why would you feel the need to say it again if you've already posted about this once before? Plus saying that a company is "afraid" of something is a little dumb, seeing as how it's..a company...it doesn't have feelings, so most people are going to assume you're just trying to stir up trouble.
Here's how you might have handled this....
"Sony is Serious Competition for Microsoft" - not flamebait, you could still get your point across this way without sounding like a troll.
That's true...and I agree. But regardless of the thread's title and theme, the subject matter makes plenty of sense...and if you're a smart person not easily ruffled by "internet emotions", you'd understand by reading the OP.
hmm lets see. Well yeah MS is a bigger company then SONY. The thread was about the gaming industry. SONY still owns the gaming industry cause of the PS2. 360 has got a year head start on the Wii and PS3. The PS3 is not failing at all. Its just not flying off the shelves cause of just 1 problem. The price.If the PS3 was about 450, I think they would have sold about 5 million by now. They all fear each other. Maybe the mac and PS3 should team up for whatever reason. Im loving all the competition cause they are just giving us more fun stuff.
Whoever loses, or wins, we win!
[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]Maybe the reason everybody says that stuff is because your threads really are pointless and not very well thought out. I mean, jsut look at your Forza 2 thread "Downgrade Confirmed." You know that it's going to be an amazing game and that the jaggies are going to go away with motion yet you keep saying it.D0013ER
Yet there was another thread earlier with a completely different poster that read something like "147 new Forza 2 pics"...people in that thread were saying "downgrade" right and left and saying how BAD THE PICS LOOKED! But, I guess since I MADE A THREAD ABOUT IT, then people suddenly change their minds. People are out to own me no matter what I say now! It's a fact!
Threads usually derive from logic. How can you logically say that a game looks bad when you haven't seen it played?In system wars, threads derive from logic? :lol: Also, like I said earlier, I was just making another thread similar to the one that had the "147 Forza 2 pics". In the "147 pics" thead, IT WAS GENERALLY AGREED THAT FORZA 2's PICS LOOKED DOWNGRADED! When I made a thread with a Forza 2 pic (the same pic that everyone THOUGHT LOOKED THE WORST IN THE OTHER THREAD) I got bashed hard and got flamed to death. The hypocrisy is overwhelming! THAT is why I'm pissed!
And here's "How Not to Make a Flamebait Thread" 101....
"I'll say it again...Microsoft is Afraid of Sony!" - obviously flamebait...why would you feel the need to say it again if you've already posted about this once before? Plus saying that a company is "afraid" of something is a little dumb, seeing as how it's..a company...it doesn't have feelings, so most people are going to assume you're just trying to stir up trouble.
Here's how you might have handled this....
"Sony is Serious Competition for Microsoft" - not flamebait, you could still get your point across this way without sounding like a troll.
How to make a thread no one will read 101....
"Gee, I think that maybe Microsoft is trying to using its money and resources to try and seal some once exclusive PS3 games and make them multiplat so that it increases its sales more. "
Sounds nicer doesn't it....Of course, I wouldn't GET ONE SINGLE RESPONSE TO IT! It is called trying to grab attention. Problem is though, that even though I think my posts out, people read the thread title, then automatically make judgments on my thread without READING MY POST!
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[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"]Microsoft, for some reason, feels that they need this to compete with Sony. Microsoft isn't scared of Nintendo. Microsoft knows it has its exclusives that won't EVER go to a Nintendo platform. Microsoft though has been scared of Sony for awhile now. E3 sealing the GTAIV deal...going multiplat on day one of release.
I'm sure Microsoft gave tons of money to RockStar to insure this. Microsoft knew how big a GTA title has been in the past with Sony platforms. I think Microsoft is REALLY PUSHING devs to insure Halo 3 comes out this year. They want that title to help boost sales for the holiday season. Why? Because they are scared that if Halo 3 doesn't release, Sony will have the bigger holiday.
Xbox 360 Elite? Microsoft felt it needed yet another incarnation of the 360 to compete with PS3. PS3 after all has already sold the same number of units in the same period as 360 did. Microsoft is trying incredibly hard to influence Square to make a FF13 game for the 360. Why? Because they want to sell the 360 in Japan desperately? Why? Because Microsoft KNOWS JAPAN IS IMPORTANT! Microsoft is constantly trying to play Sony's game. Releasing Blue Dragon and trying to have new quirky titles that the Japanese like. They are failing anyway. But Japan doesn't matter huh? Microsoft says otherwise.
Microsoft is trying its best to lure developers away from PS3. PS3 STILL has a ton of developers, even though it is not selling nearly as well as expected. Here is the problem. And I think Microsoft recognizes this. PS3 has sold over 3 million so far, about the same as 360 sold in the same time period. This IS WITHOUT...good software, being $200 more expensive, no rumble, no HDMI cable, terrible E306 showing, competing with 2 consoles, etc. See, Microsoft had a huge advantage in the 1st 5 months...360 had no competition for the next gen, had a $200 cheaper price point, had great software from the get go, has rumble, has a better designed controller from the original Xbox, had a much better E306 showing than Sony, etc.
But DESPITE ALL OF THIS, PS3 is still on the same sales track as 360. Microsoft is indeed scared of Sony and its PS3.
MCGSMB
What OS are you using right now?
Microsoft has nothing to fear from Sony.
But he just said a bunch of stuff that Microsoft has to fear from Sony. Did you read it?
Microsoft, for some reason, feels that they need this to compete with Sony. Microsoft isn't scared of Nintendo. Microsoft knows it has its exclusives that won't EVER go to a Nintendo platform. Microsoft though has been scared of Sony for awhile now. E3 sealing the GTAIV deal...going multiplat on day one of release.
I'm sure Microsoft gave tons of money to RockStar to insure this. Microsoft knew how big a GTA title has been in the past with Sony platforms. I think Microsoft is REALLY PUSHING devs to insure Halo 3 comes out this year. They want that title to help boost sales for the holiday season. Why? Because they are scared that if Halo 3 doesn't release, Sony will have the bigger holiday.
Xbox 360 Elite? Microsoft felt it needed yet another incarnation of the 360 to compete with PS3. PS3 after all has already sold the same number of units in the same period as 360 did. Microsoft is trying incredibly hard to influence Square to make a FF13 game for the 360. Why? Because they want to sell the 360 in Japan desperately? Why? Because Microsoft KNOWS JAPAN IS IMPORTANT! Microsoft is constantly trying to play Sony's game. Releasing Blue Dragon and trying to have new quirky titles that the Japanese like. They are failing anyway. But Japan doesn't matter huh? Microsoft says otherwise.
Microsoft is trying its best to lure developers away from PS3. PS3 STILL has a ton of developers, even though it is not selling nearly as well as expected. Here is the problem. And I think Microsoft recognizes this. PS3 has sold over 3 million so far, about the same as 360 sold in the same time period. This IS WITHOUT...good software, being $200 more expensive, no rumble, no HDMI cable, terrible E306 showing, competing with 2 consoles, etc. See, Microsoft had a huge advantage in the 1st 5 months...360 had no competition for the next gen, had a $200 cheaper price point, had great software from the get go, has rumble, has a better designed controller from the original Xbox, had a much better E306 showing than Sony, etc.
But DESPITE ALL OF THIS, PS3 is still on the same sales track as 360. Microsoft is indeed scared of Sony and its PS3.
AvIdGaMeR444
i don't see any links.
How to make a thread no one will read 101....
"Gee, I think that maybe Microsoft is trying to using its money and resources to try and seal some once exclusive PS3 games and make them multiplat so that it increases its sales more. "
Sounds nicer doesn't it....Of course, I wouldn't GET ONE SINGLE RESPONSE TO IT! It is called trying to grab attention. Problem is though, that even though I think my posts out, people read the thread title, then automatically make judgments on my thread without READING MY POST!
AvIdGaMeR444
Well, I'd say if you can't make a thread people will visit without injecting fanboyism into it, then you probably don't have much to say worth listening to.
Well, I wouldn't say "scared", the Xbox360 and PS3 are competing, yes, that's just how it goes. But Microsoft and Sony as a whole are completely different companies. Since when is there a sony OS? Where's that Microsoft surround sound system?
I guess you could say Microsoft is trying HARD to put the PS3 down as much as they can, because their goal, like every other company, is to be the best.
sony and microsoft didnt even start out making games microsoft had computers and sony had random s***
like zomg wtg sheeps like teh me u wonz!11!!!!!!1!1!
Your name AvidGamer contradicts what you do in your personal life. I highly doubt you actually "game" with how many pointless topics you make everyday here at SW. You must spend atleast 4 hours a day here.
And just so you know, Blue Dragon did not fail in Japan. It actually did surprisingly well and sold about 175k consoles. Oh, one other thing. The PS3 is doing horrible in Japan too. The PS3 is getting 8k-13k sales in Japan a week and the 360 1k-8k. Japan this time around isn't going to be a big deal in the race, or so it seems. Compared to the PS2 sales both Xbox 360 and PS3 have horrible sales.
Microsoft, for some reason, feels that they need this to compete with Sony. Microsoft isn't scared of Nintendo. Microsoft knows it has its exclusives that won't EVER go to a Nintendo platform. Microsoft though has been scared of Sony for awhile now. E3 sealing the GTAIV deal...going multiplat on day one of release.
I'm sure Microsoft gave tons of money to RockStar to insure this. Microsoft knew how big a GTA title has been in the past with Sony platforms. I think Microsoft is REALLY PUSHING devs to insure Halo 3 comes out this year. They want that title to help boost sales for the holiday season. Why? Because they are scared that if Halo 3 doesn't release, Sony will have the bigger holiday.
Xbox 360 Elite? Microsoft felt it needed yet another incarnation of the 360 to compete with PS3. PS3 after all has already sold the same number of units in the same period as 360 did. Microsoft is trying incredibly hard to influence Square to make a FF13 game for the 360. Why? Because they want to sell the 360 in Japan desperately? Why? Because Microsoft KNOWS JAPAN IS IMPORTANT! Microsoft is constantly trying to play Sony's game. Releasing Blue Dragon and trying to have new quirky titles that the Japanese like. They are failing anyway. But Japan doesn't matter huh? Microsoft says otherwise.
Microsoft is trying its best to lure developers away from PS3. PS3 STILL has a ton of developers, even though it is not selling nearly as well as expected. Here is the problem. And I think Microsoft recognizes this. PS3 has sold over 3 million so far, about the same as 360 sold in the same time period. This IS WITHOUT...good software, being $200 more expensive, no rumble, no HDMI cable, terrible E306 showing, competing with 2 consoles, etc. See, Microsoft had a huge advantage in the 1st 5 months...360 had no competition for the next gen, had a $200 cheaper price point, had great software from the get go, has rumble, has a better designed controller from the original Xbox, had a much better E306 showing than Sony, etc.
But DESPITE ALL OF THIS, PS3 is still on the same sales track as 360. Microsoft is indeed scared of Sony and its PS3.
AvIdGaMeR444
You are 100% correct, but, this all goes without saying. Stick it to those 360 fanboys!
[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="MCGSMB"]Maybe the reason everybody says that stuff is because your threads really are pointless and not very well thought out. I mean, jsut look at your Forza 2 thread "Downgrade Confirmed." You know that it's going to be an amazing game and that the jaggies are going to go away with motion yet you keep saying it.D0013ER
Yet there was another thread earlier with a completely different poster that read something like "147 new Forza 2 pics"...people in that thread were saying "downgrade" right and left and saying how BAD THE PICS LOOKED! But, I guess since I MADE A THREAD ABOUT IT, then people suddenly change their minds. People are out to own me no matter what I say now! It's a fact!
Threads usually derive from logic. How can you logically say that a game looks bad when you haven't seen it played?In system wars, threads derive from logic? :lol: Also, like I said earlier, I was just making another thread similar to the one that had the "147 Forza 2 pics". In the "147 pics" thead, IT WAS GENERALLY AGREED THAT FORZA 2's PICS LOOKED DOWNGRADED! When I made a thread with a Forza 2 pic (the same pic that everyone THOUGHT LOOKED THE WORST IN THE OTHER THREAD) I got bashed hard and got flamed to death. The hypocrisy is overwhelming! THAT is why I'm pissed!
And here's "How Not to Make a Flamebait Thread" 101....
"I'll say it again...Microsoft is Afraid of Sony!" - obviously flamebait...why would you feel the need to say it again if you've already posted about this once before? Plus saying that a company is "afraid" of something is a little dumb, seeing as how it's..a company...it doesn't have feelings, so most people are going to assume you're just trying to stir up trouble.
Here's how you might have handled this....
"Sony is Serious Competition for Microsoft" - not flamebait, you could still get your point across this way without sounding like a troll.
I agree
Mircosoft could buy Sony 5 times over!!!!gregbmil
[QUOTE="gregbmil"]Mircosoft could buy Sony 5 times over!!!!TheEvilBaron
This debate has come up before. Sony has more income, but Microsoft makes waaaay more profit. Probably not enough to buy them five times over, but see for yourself:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=MSFT&annual
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=SNE&annual
[QUOTE="D0013ER"]Stop trying.AvIdGaMeR444
:| Maybe I will. I mean, if another person other than me had made the EXACT SAME THREAD, it would have been debated. But every single one of my threads now have a response of "Oh, it's another lame AvidGamer thread" or "stop trying" or "you're lame". Great arguments :roll: Try disproving my thread instead of typing 2 words and hitting reply. Because saying "stop trying" just shows me you have no intelligent rebuttal to my original post. If my post is so ridiculous, THEN TELL ME WHY instead of posting something incredibly pointless as "stop trying"!
dude, what is there to debate? you really want us to debate if Microsoft is scared of Sony? How do we prove or prove you wrong? either way what do you want to prove with this post? and lets say we all agree that Microsoft is scared, what do we do now?
[QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="D0013ER"]Stop trying.LEGEND_C4A
:| Maybe I will. I mean, if another person other than me had made the EXACT SAME THREAD, it would have been debated. But every single one of my threads now have a response of "Oh, it's another lame AvidGamer thread" or "stop trying" or "you're lame". Great arguments :roll: Try disproving my thread instead of typing 2 words and hitting reply. Because saying "stop trying" just shows me you have no intelligent rebuttal to my original post. If my post is so ridiculous, THEN TELL ME WHY instead of posting something incredibly pointless as "stop trying"!
dude, what is there to debate? you really want us to debate if Microsoft is scared of Sony? How do we prove or prove you wrong? either way what do you want to prove with this post? and lets say we all agree that Microsoft is scared, what do we do now?
Scared, Intimidated, threatened, ect. Its all the same thing and Microsoft proves it way to often with everything they do that they know Sony is way more competition than they can handle. Microsoft is running scared trying to keep up with sony. Sure it is fine if you go after a development company to make games for you. But it's the fact that Microsoft is throwing money or something at these Previously exclusive Sony Developers to make games for themselves. and you know the best they can get is multiplatform.
Microsoft is Intimidated By Sony's big black box. So what do they do? They bring out thier own big black box and give it a better name than it deserves, the "Elite" Elite should be the best of the Best. Nothing missing. Well "Elite in microsofts book must mean a slight upgrade.
Threatened. Microsoft is Threatened By Sony's success and Power in the Game Industry. They try to throw it off by having thier mighty leader say they are more afraid of nintendo. The act like a scared school bully by throwing parties right by Sony. that is funny if you think about it but shows absolutly no class on microsofts part. It shows that all MS has right now to overcome sony is to try and make jokes about it.
Well that just says fear to me.
[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="AvIdGaMeR444"][QUOTE="D0013ER"]Stop trying.wiljas
:| Maybe I will. I mean, if another person other than me had made the EXACT SAME THREAD, it would have been debated. But every single one of my threads now have a response of "Oh, it's another lame AvidGamer thread" or "stop trying" or "you're lame". Great arguments :roll: Try disproving my thread instead of typing 2 words and hitting reply. Because saying "stop trying" just shows me you have no intelligent rebuttal to my original post. If my post is so ridiculous, THEN TELL ME WHY instead of posting something incredibly pointless as "stop trying"!
dude, what is there to debate? you really want us to debate if Microsoft is scared of Sony? How do we prove or prove you wrong? either way what do you want to prove with this post? and lets say we all agree that Microsoft is scared, what do we do now?
Scared, Intimidated, threatened, ect. Its all the same thing and Microsoft proves it way to often with everything they do that they know Sony is way more competition than they can handle. Microsoft is running scared trying to keep up with sony. Sure it is fine if you go after a development company to make games for you. But it's the fact that Microsoft is throwing money or something at these Previously exclusive Sony Developers to make games for themselves. and you know the best they can get is multiplatform.
Microsoft is Intimidated By Sony's big black box. So what do they do? They bring out thier own big black box and give it a better name than it deserves, the "Elite" Elite should be the best of the Best. Nothing missing. Well "Elite in microsofts book must mean a slight upgrade.
Threatened. Microsoft is Threatened By Sony's success and Power in the Game Industry. They try to throw it off by having thier mighty leader say they are more afraid of nintendo. The act like a scared school bully by throwing parties right by Sony. that is funny if you think about it but shows absolutly no class on microsofts part. It shows that all MS has right now to overcome sony is to try and make jokes about it.
Well that just says fear to me.
I see, why didn't I think of that, Microsoft made a black xbox, thats it! this debate is over, thank you for showing me the light.
honestly, people. sit down, and take a deep breath. some of you take this too serious.
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