I'm getting ONLIVE and it's going to >>> everything in existence!!!!!!

If it does come out, the servers will have a huge amount of stress on them

OB-47

If that is the case then it would mean a lot of people are on board. So that's great then it will not fail.

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But then you pay $15 bucks a month and how much are the games ? $50 bucks ? No resell value, say you buy 10 games thats $500 bucks if onlive bombs your games and money is gone.

HonkyTonkGamer

You can rent as you go or buy whole game. I don't think there is any question that the games will be cheaper on Onlive. The publishers are already making money from retail sales. So they know being your not get a hard copy they will sell rental for cheaper.

I've not seen any DD version of a game prove this yet. It seems no resale value is great to the devs, but bad for us and they don't cut it out of the price.

On topic, I will not be paying a monthly fee for the opportunity to pay another fee. If the fee came with 3 or four rentals a month, it may be worth checking out. As it is, no go. I don't like DD because you never own anything, it's crap and only benefits the publishers.

Hermits opinion here. I'll stay with steam8).

OnLive sucks. Move along people.KHAndAnime

Dude can I come over to your house and play your Onlive service:? Wait:roll:

Onlive is a great idea, but it's not for gamers who already have consolesCleanPlayer

Why not they will have some PC exclusives on Onlive

[QUOTE="CleanPlayer"]Onlive is a great idea, but it's not for gamers who already have consolesHonkyTonkGamer

Why not they will have some PC exclusives on Onlive

With how much it costs, you're better off upgrading your own PC.

Whats ONLIVE? From the sounds of it its like STEAM right? serious question i really dont know?? inform me please

It definitely sounds interesting for PC Gaming. Too bad it will have horrible delay on any high powered games.

ugghh...so I pay 15 a month, then buy the games, then pay for internet service, and pray for no lag on single player games? No thanks. I have only a 1mb download rate shared between 3-5 computers. Onlive is fail

$15 is nothing we burn that in a few days on lunch coffee whatever. And I'm going to just have a SICK 24-27in good PC flat screen and some nice sound. And I'm always going to play all the TOP END PC games in full graphics and never have to worry about upgrades again.

I'll most likely stick with my online gaming on Xbox Live or until i'm confident that Onlive can compete in online shooters. Either way. **** YEAH i'm playing games like The Witcher 2 Crysis 2 Half Life 3 Dues Ex 3 Stalker and all the great PC games at full graphics and no worries becuase i'll be playing the single player aspect of them until Like I said the online game proofs itself.

Onlive is going to be OFF THE ******* HOOK!!!!!!

HonkyTonkGamer

Onlive is a great idea, I will say is how the gameing will be in the future. But of now internet is not ready yet, it is not fast enough. Also you will have input lag and it is 480p and 720p(if you have a fast internet) and it is not 1080p yet.

Its interesting but useless for Australia. Most people only have..roughly 5-10GBs of download each month.

$15 is nothing we burn that in a few days on lunch coffee whatever. And I'm going to just have a SICK 24-27in good PC flat screen and some nice sound. And I'm always going to play all the TOP END PC games in full graphics and never have to worry about upgrades again.

I'll most likely stick with my online gaming on Xbox Live or until i'm confident that Onlive can compete in online shooters. Either way. **** YEAH i'm playing games like The Witcher 2 Crysis 2 Half Life 3 Dues Ex 3 Stalker and all the great PC games at full graphics and no worries becuase i'll be playing the single player aspect of them until Like I said the online game proofs itself.

Onlive is going to be OFF THE ******* HOOK!!!!!!

HonkyTonkGamer

Nah, I'll take those $180 a year and upgrades my PC for it and continues to buy my PC games at steam and gog.com instead.

Feels safer that way.

And I'm always going to play all the TOP END PC games in full graphics and never have to worry about upgrades again.

HonkyTonkGamer

This:

Its interesting but useless for Australia. Most people only have..roughly 5-10GBs of download each month.

Blake135

It's nothing to do with online fees or not physically owning the game, it's got to do with the fact that this service can't work in about 2/3 of the world, so many places cannot meet a demand of using that many megabytes a second. This is where onlive fails, it can only be used in a small handful of countries at the moment, until other nations, including Australia where I live, pick up their game and get a proper internet service running.

In the interview the president of the company and director of the Onlive project had never heard of an internet cap lower than 200GB. He simply hasn't done his global research, there are not many places outside the US that can properly support this system. From the minimal research I've done I've found Japan and certain countries in the Scandanvian region can. But you can't make a globalized system off just them + the states.

Honestly there is such a lack of research done outside the US, they needed to do a lot more of this before trying to accomplish such a task.

You realize $15 a month is JUST for the service, no games, only demos, than each game has additional rental and purchase fees ON TOP of $15/month.110million

$15 is nothing we burn that in a few days on lunch coffee whatever. And I'm going to just have a SICK 24-27in good PC flat screen and some nice sound. And I'm always going to play all the TOP END PC games in full graphics and never have to worry about upgrades again.

I'll most likely stick with my online gaming on Xbox Live or until i'm confident that Onlive can compete in online shooters. Either way. **** YEAH i'm playing games like The Witcher 2 Crysis 2 Half Life 3 Dues Ex 3 Stalker and all the great PC games at full graphics and no worries becuase i'll be playing the single player aspect of them until Like I said the online game proofs itself.

Onlive is going to be OFF THE ******* HOOK!!!!!!

So they can stream 1080p resolution games over the net to you with no input delay? Oh right, they can't.

Good luck to you, i'll stick with Steam and a decent PC in my house tyvm.

ugghh...so I pay 15 a month, then buy the games, then pay for internet service, and pray for no lag on single player games? No thanks. I have only a 1mb download rate shared between 3-5 computers. Onlive is fail

darksidecelica

I dunno, maybe by 2012/2013 I may look more into it but now seems a bit premature to get all excited - perhaps that's just me. :P

OnLive will fail due to intimidation, monthly fees, people's mindsets, and the name.

Intimidation: Too risky. Too advanced for now. People won't understand how it works, so will continue to play the consoles they already love.

Monthly Fees: On top of paying the price per game and the cost of your ISP, you're going to pay $15 a month for...ever? Most people interested in OnLive are gamers, and therefor will more than likely already own a gaming quality PC, which leads you to Steam instead of OnLive.

People's Mindsets: Well, for example, this board. The Sony Playstation and the Microsoft XBox 360 are both wonderful systems. If you're lucky enough to own either one, consider yourself a well off gamer. But yet, there is an entire board (and the most popular one) dedicated to letting gamers fight it out as to which is the best. You think people who are hardcore enough fans to come onto a gaming forum and argue will have an open mind to a whole new competitor?

Name: OnLive, made by... who? What? What is this I don't even.... the point is, Sony, Microsoft, and especially Nintendo are household names. If a mother doing her Christmas shopping is out looking for a surprise gift for her 10 - 17 year old, what are the chances she'll consider OnLive? Not likely.

But then you pay $15 bucks a month and how much are the games ? $50 bucks ? No resell value, say you buy 10 games thats $500 bucks if onlive bombs your games and money is gone.

telefanatic

OnLive will fail due to intimidation, monthly fees, people's mindsets, and the name.

Intimidation: Too risky. Too advanced for now. People won't understand how it works, so will continue to play the consoles they already love.

Monthly Fees: On top of paying the price per game and the cost of your ISP, you're going to pay $15 a month for...ever? Most people interested in OnLive are gamers, and therefor will more than likely already own a gaming quality PC, which leads you to Steam instead of OnLive.

People's Mindsets: Well, for example, this board. The Sony Playstation and the Microsoft XBox 360 are both wonderful systems. If you're lucky enough to own either one, consider yourself a well off gamer. But yet, there is an entire board (and the most popular one) dedicated to letting gamers fight it out as to which is the best. You think people who are hardcore enough fans to come onto a gaming forum and argue will have an open mind to a whole new competitor?

Name: OnLive, made by... who? What? What is this I don't even.... the point is, Sony, Microsoft, and especially Nintendo are household names. If a mother doing her Christmas shopping is out looking for a surprise gift for her 10 - 17 year old, what are the chances she'll consider OnLive? Not likely.

Airek49

People understand what netflicks is same concept but for games:?

if you thought the 100ms lag on Natal was bad. get ready for Onlive :)Ontain

I beleive they said it will never be more then 70-80ms lag time. And it will get better as it is on the market and has upgrades. Most of us play online games at this speed. So why is this such an issue?

[QUOTE="Ontain"]if you thought the 100ms lag on Natal was bad. get ready for Onlive :)HonkyTonkGamer

I beleive they said it will never be more then 70-80ms lag time. And it will get better as it is on the market and has upgrades. Most of us play online games at this speed. So why is this such an issue?

I suspect this will bomb bigtime...

It just seems too good...

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[QUOTE="Ontain"]if you thought the 100ms lag on Natal was bad. get ready for Onlive :)o0squishy0o

I beleive they said it will never be more then 70-80ms lag time. And it will get better as it is on the market and has upgrades. Most of us play online games at this speed. So why is this such an issue?

Look were PC gaming and the internet all started from. They all took sometime to develope. So why is everyone so willing to not allow cloud computing gaming time to develope.

Trust me cloud computing is the future.

Here's a problem for me and probably many others.

Depending on where you live you might have very low data caps. My internet is extremely fast except I can only upload and download 30gbs total a month. If I want to ugprade to 100gbs per month it would double my internet cost yet it would be the same speed. The problem with Onlive is that you need HUGE internet caps or unlimited because ONlive will just eat through 100gbs a month most probably. I would even be worried with a 250gb cap lol.

Does anyone know how much mb/s Onlive uses when streaming 1080p?

Also they do not offer service in Canada....

[QUOTE="Airek49"]

OnLive will fail due to intimidation, monthly fees, people's mindsets, and the name.

Intimidation: Too risky. Too advanced for now. People won't understand how it works, so will continue to play the consoles they already love.

Monthly Fees: On top of paying the price per game and the cost of your ISP, you're going to pay $15 a month for...ever? Most people interested in OnLive are gamers, and therefor will more than likely already own a gaming quality PC, which leads you to Steam instead of OnLive.

People's Mindsets: Well, for example, this board. The Sony Playstation and the Microsoft XBox 360 are both wonderful systems. If you're lucky enough to own either one, consider yourself a well off gamer. But yet, there is an entire board (and the most popular one) dedicated to letting gamers fight it out as to which is the best. You think people who are hardcore enough fans to come onto a gaming forum and argue will have an open mind to a whole new competitor?

Name: OnLive, made by... who? What? What is this I don't even.... the point is, Sony, Microsoft, and especially Nintendo are household names. If a mother doing her Christmas shopping is out looking for a surprise gift for her 10 - 17 year old, what are the chances she'll consider OnLive? Not likely.

HonkyTonkGamer

People understand what netflicks is same concept but for games:?

tis' be true.

moistsandwich

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

[QUOTE="Easyle"]

No **** sherlock, but the fact was that it was downloadable only. This will either bomb, or do very well. I'm leaning towards bomb.

MonsieurX

You kind of disrespecting the intellegence of hermits PC gamers. They are very accustomed to DL content have been for years. So there is a big market for this service in waiting.

ya but 15 x 12 what is that

thats over 200 because 12x12 is 144 , , add 3 x12 =36 is exactly 200 , ,

if not more

im not paying no 200 a yr for some silly service, i own all 3 consoles, ill be gladly supporting them , ,

You realize $15 a month is JUST for the service, no games, only demos, than each game has additional rental and purchase fees ON TOP of $15/month.110million

I'm only a few miles from a major internet hub and I still get lag issues once in a while when playing multiplayer. And they want me to stream the entire game..... every time I play? Yea I really want to play a game like Alan Wake and have lag attack issues.

I also don't like the idea of having to pay $15 a month plus the price to rent or buy a game. With this type of service it should be $15 a month for all you can play gaming. Everything is digital, there's no retailer that gets the cut and there are no used game sales. You're already giving enough.

I can see OnLive taking off at some point but to be honest I would rather see it fail. Even though I mostly buy new games I like having the option of waiting a few months and then getting a $40 used copy. If OnLive is successful it will just accelerate the trend towards digital-only sales. However I can see it being useful for pc gaming since it solves the piracy problem.

[QUOTE="110million"]You realize $15 a month is JUST for the service, no games, only demos, than each game has additional rental and purchase fees ON TOP of $15/month.fabz_95

off topic but Im wondering what would we call Onlive gamers in System wars? Lemurs? Camels?

[QUOTE="HonkyTonkGamer"]

[QUOTE="Airek49"]

OnLive will fail due to intimidation, monthly fees, people's mindsets, and the name.

Intimidation: Too risky. Too advanced for now. People won't understand how it works, so will continue to play the consoles they already love.

Monthly Fees: On top of paying the price per game and the cost of your ISP, you're going to pay $15 a month for...ever? Most people interested in OnLive are gamers, and therefor will more than likely already own a gaming quality PC, which leads you to Steam instead of OnLive.

People's Mindsets: Well, for example, this board. The Sony Playstation and the Microsoft XBox 360 are both wonderful systems. If you're lucky enough to own either one, consider yourself a well off gamer. But yet, there is an entire board (and the most popular one) dedicated to letting gamers fight it out as to which is the best. You think people who are hardcore enough fans to come onto a gaming forum and argue will have an open mind to a whole new competitor?

Name: OnLive, made by... who? What? What is this I don't even.... the point is, Sony, Microsoft, and especially Nintendo are household names. If a mother doing her Christmas shopping is out looking for a surprise gift for her 10 - 17 year old, what are the chances she'll consider OnLive? Not likely.

Airek49

People understand what netflicks is same concept but for games:?

No Netflix has a streamin service. They however have a monthly fee and that's it. If Onlive was just at a base of 15 bucks for like 1 game at a time I'd be fine with that (not really sure how that would work but it's a thoery) and more for extra games that would be cool. As it is it's overpriced and my PC runs fine

You realize $15 a month is JUST for the service, no games, only demos, than each game has additional rental and purchase fees ON TOP of $15/month.110million

yea its funny you pay $15 a month and then you get to buy games you dont even really get to own, sounds like a great deal :|