I'm going to tell you why MR.9.5 the BIG DADDY sold 2.5 first day. It's AMAZING!

You: "Actually its usually hermits since they actually play GOOD fps games"

You clearly say that its "usually hermits since they actually play good fps games". It not difficult to see that what you are saying is there are no good fps on consoles, and thats why lemmings like halo, they have never played anything better. If you read my post it says its fine you don't like halo3. But to be honest i think its more than just not liking it, because to rate the game 1.0 like you did you would have to be a pretty big fanboy, im sure everyone thats not obsessed with their system of choice like you are would agree that halo 3 deserves more than a 1.

Oh forgive me yes i think i want to play one of these incredibly hard online games that require extreem skill and stress just to finaly achieve an enjoyable moment. I guess that why those games you must like to play are breaking sales records world wide:roll:

Fuzzy_Munch

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]If sales are indicative of quality, I expect you'll willingly concede that the Wii is a better system than the 360... Right?AfterShafter

Idon't know how you extracted that as the main point of his post because when i anylyzed his argument it was clear that he was saying that the gameplay was the reason for the quality and the justification for the massive sales. Geez for someone with a Torment avatar i thought you would be one of those insanely smart nerds but you sure missed the point. BTW Torment has to have one of the most fugly designs of any pc game I have ever played. My friend Jason tried to get me to play it and the incredibly boring gameplay asside, damn it's like they hired Picasso to create the main character. Minus the art of course.

Can you, please? I had no problem understanding that. I'd love to see you spice that up to a literary masterpiece.

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

Halo 3 is just your average shooter.

Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament and Quake all did it long before and all did it far better.

Fuzzy_Munch

And no you are SO WRONG i've played all those also being i'm a former diehard PC gamer. And being UT the first one from 1999 is my alltime favorite UT game on PC.

But H3 is SLICK as SILK with incredible balance and gameplay and online game modes. If you are good at it you can pull of some of the most amazing gameplay tatics.

Oh and then go back and watch them and say WOW that was a FREAKING sweet move i pulled.

I've heard about how you can pull off "tactics" and "strategy" will Halo 3. Implying that you can't do these sorts of things in Unreal Tournament.

Well then I ask of you, why not?

Try playing against a skilled, coordinated team in UT2k4 or whatever your preferred title in the franchise is. After doing so, I encourage you to come back and tell me that Unreal Tournament cannot deliver strategy. UT, in fact, has the most strategy and teamwork I've seen in a game when you have a good team.

I doubt that you honestly played UT99 or any of the Unreal Tournament games for any appreciable amount of time if you are going to come to these forums and tell me how superior Halo 3 is. Never have I met someone who actually played Unreal Tournament for a long time to tell me that Halo is better. I don't think any real hardcore FPS player could.

UT99 and UT2k4 were extremely balanced. I didn't say 2k3 was since some people would disagree. In any case, it's much harder to dominate in UT2k4 with any highly damaging weapons because people can quickly evade. Headshots from the lighting cannon are extremely hard to pull off for anyone except for those who have amazing aim and reflexes.

Whereas in Halo, someone with a rocket launcher can dominate everyone with one shot killed since everything is so slow moving. You can supplement the rocket launcher with the plasma sword or the brute hammer for the same scenario.

And, if you honestly think the moves you can pull off in Halo are amazing, then you really have not played Unreal Tournament. At all. The sorts of things that great players can do in UT are almost infinitely more amazing, or at the very least, entertaining, than things you can pull off in Halo.

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="NitaraPwnzU"]

Has nothing to do with sales.. Halo 3 is just that good.. Except it..and the score reflects it :D

BobHipJames

I have yet to play the single player, but speaking specifically of the online multiplayer, no, it's not that good.

It's not even as good as 90% of the games I have on my desktop right now.

You blow at it online then anyone who says this means they suxxx at it.

I believe I got a killing spree.

I did just fine, actually, first time playing. After getting a headshot with a bolt action rifle by leading a target and compensating for bullet drop, you find shooting with a static giant circle crosshair and projectile aiming a grenade across the map (all of this pretty much enabled) pretty damn simple.

That's not to mention the "ski" melee attack. It couldn't be simpler. Seriously.

Oh forgive me yes i think i want to play one of these incredibly hard online games that require extreem skill and stress just to finaly achieve an enjoyible moment. I guess that why those games you must like to play are breaking sales records world wide:roll:

You just said that I sucked at the game. Rescind this statement immediately because it's total nonsense.

You can't tell me I suck at the game, teh hardcore game, then tell my my opinions are invalid because I showed you precisely why I don't suck at it.

Guess what, no matter what I play, no matter what you play, whether you like hard games or soft games, that doesn't change the fact that this game is imba.

Argue that, for once. Please.

it's not imba...

if you let the enemies run up to you then why don't you melee back or throw a grenade too?

you need to learn to play better, that's all.

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

Halo 3 is just your average shooter.

Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament and Quake all did it long before and all did it far better.

Thompsonwhore

And no you are SO WRONG i've played all those also being i'm a former diehard PC gamer. And being UT the first one from 1999 is my alltime favorite UT game on PC.

But H3 is SLICK as SILK with incredible balance and gameplay and online game modes. If you are good at it you can pull of some of the most amazing gameplay tatics.

Oh and then go back and watch them and say WOW that was a FREAKING sweet move i pulled.

I've heard about how you can pull off "tactics" and "strategy" will Halo 3. Implying that you can't do these sorts of things in Unreal Tournament.

Well then I ask of you, why not?

Try playing against a skilled, coordinated team in UT2k4 or whatever your preferred title in the franchise is. After doing so, I encourage you to come back and tell me that Unreal Tournament cannot deliver strategy. UT, in fact, has the most strategy and teamwork I've seen in a game when you have a good team.

I doubt that you honestly played UT99 or any of the Unreal Tournament games for any appreciable amount of time if you are going to come to these forums and tell me how superior Halo 3 is. Never have I met someone who actually played Unreal Tournament for a long time to tell me that Halo is better. I don't think any real hardcore FPS player could.

UT99 and UT2k4 were extremely balanced. I didn't say 2k3 was since some people would disagree. In any case, it's much harder to dominate in UT2k4 with any highly damaging weapons because people can quickly evade. Headshots from the lighting cannon are extremely hard to pull off for anyone except for those who have amazing aim and reflexes.

Whereas in Halo, someone with a rocket launcher can dominate everyone with one shot killed since everything is so slow moving. You can supplement the rocket launcher with the plasma sword or the brute hammer for the same scenario.

And, if you honestly think the moves you can pull off in Halo are amazing, then you really have not played Unreal Tournament. At all. The sorts of things that great players can do in UT are almost infinitely more amazing, or at the very least, entertaining, than things you can pull off in Halo.

so very very very VERY true..... every lemming (anyone in general) should try UT and tell me it isnt amazingly fun. i have played UT before i have even seen Halo.. and when halo came out i didnt see what was so big about it.but im not saying it sucks

Halo 3 Rocks

And im a Lemming/Hermit

You sure that was Halo 3 you bought....and not crack?Spag1091

Lol, post of the week. Made me laugh.

[QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"][QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

Halo 3 is just your average shooter.

Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament and Quake all did it long before and all did it far better.

BTBAM127

And no you are SO WRONG i've played all those also being i'm a former diehard PC gamer. And being UT the first one from 1999 is my alltime favorite UT game on PC.

But H3 is SLICK as SILK with incredible balance and gameplay and online game modes. If you are good at it you can pull of some of the most amazing gameplay tatics.

Oh and then go back and watch them and say WOW that was a FREAKING sweet move i pulled.

I've heard about how you can pull off "tactics" and "strategy" will Halo 3. Implying that you can't do these sorts of things in Unreal Tournament.

Well then I ask of you, why not?

Try playing against a skilled, coordinated team in UT2k4 or whatever your preferred title in the franchise is. After doing so, I encourage you to come back and tell me that Unreal Tournament cannot deliver strategy. UT, in fact, has the most strategy and teamwork I've seen in a game when you have a good team.

I doubt that you honestly played UT99 or any of the Unreal Tournament games for any appreciable amount of time if you are going to come to these forums and tell me how superior Halo 3 is. Never have I met someone who actually played Unreal Tournament for a long time to tell me that Halo is better. I don't think any real hardcore FPS player could.

UT99 and UT2k4 were extremely balanced. I didn't say 2k3 was since some people would disagree. In any case, it's much harder to dominate in UT2k4 with any highly damaging weapons because people can quickly evade. Headshots from the lighting cannon are extremely hard to pull off for anyone except for those who have amazing aim and reflexes.

Whereas in Halo, someone with a rocket launcher can dominate everyone with one shot killed since everything is so slow moving. You can supplement the rocket launcher with the plasma sword or the brute hammer for the same scenario.

And, if you honestly think the moves you can pull off in Halo are amazing, then you really have not played Unreal Tournament. At all. The sorts of things that great players can do in UT are almost infinitely more amazing, or at the very least, entertaining, than things you can pull off in Halo.

so very very very VERY true..... every lemming (anyone in general) should try UT and tell me it isnt amazingly fun. i have played UT before i have even seen Halo.. and when halo came out i didnt see what was so big about it.but im not saying it sucks

But if you mean halo 2 yeah sure it was average

[QUOTE="Fuzzy_Munch"][QUOTE="Thompsonwhore"]

Halo 3 is just your average shooter.

Counter-Strike, Unreal Tournament and Quake all did it long before and all did it far better.

Thompsonwhore

And no you are SO WRONG i've played all those also being i'm a former diehard PC gamer. And being UT the first one from 1999 is my alltime favorite UT game on PC.

But H3 is SLICK as SILK with incredible balance and gameplay and online game modes. If you are good at it you can pull of some of the most amazing gameplay tatics.

Oh and then go back and watch them and say WOW that was a FREAKING sweet move i pulled.

I've heard about how you can pull off "tactics" and "strategy" will Halo 3. Implying that you can't do these sorts of things in Unreal Tournament.

Well then I ask of you, why not?

Try playing against a skilled, coordinated team in UT2k4 or whatever your preferred title in the franchise is. After doing so, I encourage you to come back and tell me that Unreal Tournament cannot deliver strategy. UT, in fact, has the most strategy and teamwork I've seen in a game when you have a good team.

I doubt that you honestly played UT99 or any of the Unreal Tournament games for any appreciable amount of time if you are going to come to these forums and tell me how superior Halo 3 is. Never have I met someone who actually played Unreal Tournament for a long time to tell me that Halo is better. I don't think any real hardcore FPS player could.

UT99 and UT2k4 were extremely balanced. I didn't say 2k3 was since some people would disagree. In any case, it's much harder to dominate in UT2k4 with any highly damaging weapons because people can quickly evade. Headshots from the lighting cannon are extremely hard to pull off for anyone except for those who have amazing aim and reflexes.

Whereas in Halo, someone with a rocket launcher can dominate everyone with one shot killed since everything is so slow moving. You can supplement the rocket launcher with the plasma sword or the brute hammer for the same scenario.

And, if you honestly think the moves you can pull off in Halo are amazing, then you really have not played Unreal Tournament. At all. The sorts of things that great players can do in UT are almost infinitely more amazing, or at the very least, entertaining, than things you can pull off in Halo.

Dude you don't have to convince me on UT or UT2004. I mean they are the BEST ever on PC. I always had a stronger love for UT not that it is better then 2004 becuase 04 freaking ROCKS. But back in 99 when UT came out i was running in on my Vodoo 300 graphic card and i spent countless Saturday moring wake and baking and playing that shxt. I have nothing but the best gameing memorys from those days it RULED. As you go back and read i did say i used to be big into PC games.

Lets put it like this UT franchise ownz the PC and Halo online ownz the game systems.

If sales are indicative of quality, I expect you'll willingly concede that the Wii is a better system than the 360... Right?AfterShafter

Halo 3 scored a 9.5... Now thats quality