I'm I the only one that thinks Halo 4 is a step backwards?

Spartan ops is more original than firefight.

It's not copying COD, it's still quite halo. And COD ripped off HALO more time than I can remember.

It's still one of the most content-filled games money can buy.

GOGOGOGURT

More games than people would like to admit or not educated enough to know have actually taken many aspects from Halo.

There are the little things: Like incidental soldier dialogue, that helped push a more realistic and detailed atmosphere

There was the level design, which even the PC hit Crysis took much of it's inspiration from

The throwing a grenade without equipping it

But the most influential was the level design, as well as the console auto-aim coding that has been used in games like Call of Duty and Killzone 3

I actually didn't know Firefight was axed. That's too bad.:(

Ross_the_Boss6

Blame this...

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Spartan ops is more original than firefight.

It's not copying COD, it's still quite halo. And COD ripped off HALO more time than I can remember.

It's still one of the most content-filled games money can buy.

OB-47

More games than people would like to admit or not educated enough to know have actually taken many aspects from Halo.

There are the little things: Like incidental soldier dialogue, that helped push a more realistic and detailed atmosphere

There was the level design, which even the PC hit Crysis took much of it's inspiration from

The throwing a grenade without equipping it

But the most influential was the level design, as well as the console auto-aim coding that has been used in games like Call of Duty and Killzone 3

Precisely.

So it is headed in the right direction.

It still retains it's old-school feel, while also being streamlined all the while.

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Spartan ops is more original than firefight.

It's not copying COD, it's still quite halo. And COD ripped off HALO more time than I can remember.

It's still one of the most content-filled games money can buy.

GOGOGOGURT

More games than people would like to admit or not educated enough to know have actually taken many aspects from Halo.

There are the little things: Like incidental soldier dialogue, that helped push a more realistic and detailed atmosphere

There was the level design, which even the PC hit Crysis took much of it's inspiration from

The throwing a grenade without equipping it

But the most influential was the level design, as well as the console auto-aim coding that has been used in games like Call of Duty and Killzone 3

Precisely.

So it is headed in the right direction.

It still retains it's old-school feel, while also being streamlined all the while.

It was essentially a modern interpretation of the arena shooter, something that is still rare these days. Halo still has a place in the industry

Well according to the people that played it (IGN), they say it plays very similar to COD now. But we don't know for certain what it's like, none of us have played it ourselves yet. Maybe they might release a beta for it like they did with Reach?

I just hope the campaign isn't garbage like Reach and Halo 3 were, hopefully 343 will make it better. But I don't care if it's more like COD, I like COD, in fact I like it more than Halo, so it's a good thing if it's more like it to me.

ShadowMoses900

...you've not played it, and you have a few tidbits of information therefor you know every thing about the game and can thus make an informed opinion that its a step backwards?

WilliamRLBaker

"Guys its just tidbit of info, play it before yor jusge"

Great logic there:roll:

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

Seriously, no one seems to care that firefight got axed, and replased by Spec-ops...oh my bad I meant Spartan Ops. Thats an entire game mode lots of people love just gone, and hell, it was the best thing out of ODST! Now we have this 8 gig mandatory install....why? What could they need 8 gigs for? Its ass, thats what it is. I hate the fact that the updates for BF3 takes like 2 gigs just to play the damn thing. So to even just use this out of the box I have to install it? Lets not even forget about alot of the questionable deisgn choices they are making for MP, because lets face it, they are taking HAlo, and mixing some CoD in there...thats not good.

/rant

But really though, I was more hyped for ODST then I am for this. I feel its taking a step backwards from Reach...or maybe a step in the wrong direction, idk thoughts?

Stevo_the_gamer

To play online you must install 8 gigs, happy?

It seems like a step back story-wise, after a trilogy ending finale. It does look somewhat interesting though.

It seems like a step back story-wise, after a trilogy ending finale. It does look somewhat interesting though.

Big_Pecks

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

...you've not played it, and you have a few tidbits of information therefor you know every thing about the game and can thus make an informed opinion that its a step backwards?

Bardock47

"Guys its just tidbit of info, play it before yor jusge"

Great logic there:roll:

Free roam is a huge part of the GTA formula. That would be removing the thing that makes GTA, well GTA.

Halo is all about the sandbox shooter experience. That is still intact. All the new stuff are merely additions to the formula that we fully can't judge until we get the final product.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]There is no worse a quality in gamers these days then crying about games that they haven't even played yet. At least give it five minutes of controller-in-your-hands before you have a rant about how terrible it is. Bardock47

Simply put I say no, and at this point I'm not as excited as I was for ODST or reach, or any of the others. Every new thing I hear about this and it just gets worse and worse. I eally hope I get proven wrong and its the best one, I really do. This is my favortie franchise and I would rather not see it die.

The Rockstar thing would make more sense if Firefight was the main feature of Halo, but as it stands it's only been in the two most recent games. 343i aren't cutting out MP, campaign or co-op - those are the things that have traditionally defined past Halo releases. And axing them with with the 5th entry in the main series would be a huge middle finger to fans.

As for the rest of your points, I am apprehensive as well. But, I like Halo enough to give it a try before issuing judgment. Overall, it seems like you're making alot of fuss for nothing right now.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

...you've not played it, and you have a few tidbits of information therefor you know every thing about the game and can thus make an informed opinion that its a step backwards?

Bardock47

"Guys its just tidbit of info, play it before yor jusge"

Great logic there:roll:

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]There is no worse a quality in gamers these days then crying about games that they haven't even played yet. At least give it five minutes of controller-in-your-hands before you have a rant about how terrible it is. Kickinurass

Simply put I say no, and at this point I'm not as excited as I was for ODST or reach, or any of the others. Every new thing I hear about this and it just gets worse and worse. I eally hope I get proven wrong and its the best one, I really do. This is my favortie franchise and I would rather not see it die.

The Rockstar thing would make more sense if Firefight was the main feature of Halo, but as it stands it's only been in the two most recent games. 343i aren't cutting out MP, campaign or co-op - those are the things that have traditionally defined past Halo releases. And axing them with with the 5th entry in the main series would be a huge middle finger to fans.

As for the rest of your points, I am apprehensive as well. But, I like Halo enough to give it a try before issuing judgment. Overall, it seems like you're making alot of fuss for nothing right now.

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

...you've not played it, and you have a few tidbits of information therefor you know every thing about the game and can thus make an informed opinion that its a step backwards?

WilliamRLBaker

"Guys its just tidbit of info, play it before yor jusge"

Great logic there:roll:

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

[QUOTE="Bardock47"] So by your logic, that would be like Rockstar saying, guys in our next GTA we are cutting out free-raom in the city and, your just gonna have to trust us on this.. You'd just say wait and play it? That aweful logic, GTA is all about an open world. If there is something people dont like there going to comment on. Thats lke saying don't judge the next CoD yet, you havent played. When we know enough info to be like, hey this and this sounds cool , but this and this looks to suck. Idk what the 8 gig install has, but, is it really nessesary? Just put Spartan ops on another disk. Is cutting out Firefight nessescary? IS the CoDifaction of the MP really what we want to see in Halo?

Simply put I say no, and at this point I'm not as excited as I was for ODST or reach, or any of the others. Every new thing I hear about this and it just gets worse and worse. I eally hope I get proven wrong and its the best one, I really do. This is my favortie franchise and I would rather not see it die.

Bardock47

The Rockstar thing would make more sense if Firefight was the main feature of Halo, but as it stands it's only been in the two most recent games. 343i aren't cutting out MP, campaign or co-op - those are the things that have traditionally defined past Halo releases. And axing them with with the 5th entry in the main series would be a huge middle finger to fans.

As for the rest of your points, I am apprehensive as well. But, I like Halo enough to give it a try before issuing judgment. Overall, it seems like you're making alot of fuss for nothing right now.

The game as a whole looks great, but I quite dissapointed by the lack of Firefight. It makes no sense to me not to include what was one of the best horde modes

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="Kickinurass"]

The Rockstar thing would make more sense if Firefight was the main feature of Halo, but as it stands it's only been in the two most recent games. 343i aren't cutting out MP, campaign or co-op - those are the things that have traditionally defined past Halo releases. And axing them with with the 5th entry in the main series would be a huge middle finger to fans.

As for the rest of your points, I am apprehensive as well. But, I like Halo enough to give it a try before issuing judgment. Overall, it seems like you're making alot of fuss for nothing right now.

OB-47

The game as a whole looks great, but I quite dissapointed by the lack of Firefight. It makes no sense to me not to include what was one of the best horde modes

• Lack of Firefight
• MP shifting towards a CoD influenece (opinions can vary, but i feel the two shouldnt mix)
• and this 8 gig install, which were it on 2 disks wouldn't be an issue?

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Bardock47"] Rockstar announces GTA V will not have online free-raoam or mp.

"Guys its just tidbit of info, play it before yor jusge"

Great logic there:roll:

Bardock47

*laughs hard* your exact words. Rockstar announces GTAV will not have online free roam or multiplayer. GTA4's multiplayer consisted of online multiplayer and free roam it had no local coop, free roam or multiplayer...
So yes moron you did just say that GTAV being released without any online component at all is tantamount to halo 4 having an 8 gig install for its multiplayer and the replacement of firefight with spartan ops. so yes your a moron, a next level r*****

any one that claims the removal of an entire feature set such as online multiplayer, infact all online functionality since GTA's online functionality has been so far multiplayer and free roam, to the removal of a recently added firefight replaced with something else, and a 8 gig install are the same is just plain dumb.

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] lol you are a f***ing moron. remember folks an 8 gig install to play multiplayer, and the replacement of firefight with spartan ops is totally on the level of GTAV will no longer have any form of online functionality. god you are a R***** on a whole new level.WilliamRLBaker

He made a little mistake you don't need to go apesh!t.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Bardock47"] umad, bro? Seriously, I'm not happy nabout how its looking, but no need to rage there kratos. I was talking about just going online and roaming with friends as a mode, you can still do SP. But there is nooo online in anyway. Would you like a different analogy, how about if 3arc said nomore zombies in black ops 2? And i have sad mulitple times that yes its for MP, a large portion of the game, the entire online portion. I have said this before lrn2rd.

OB-47

He made a little mistake you don't need to go apesh!t.

[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] lol you are a f***ing moron. remember folks an 8 gig install to play multiplayer, and the replacement of firefight with spartan ops is totally on the level of GTAV will no longer have any form of online functionality. god you are a R***** on a whole new level.WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] *laughs hard* your exact words. Rockstar announces GTAV will not have online free roam or multiplayer. GTA4's multiplayer consisted of online multiplayer and free roam it had no local coop, free roam or multiplayer... So yes moron you did just say that GTAV being released without any online component at all is tantamount to halo 4 having an 8 gig install for its multiplayer and the replacement of firefight with spartan ops. so yes your a moron, a next level r*****WilliamRLBaker

He made a little mistake you don't need to go apesh!t.

[QUOTE="campzor"]1. firefight was awful (as are most horde modes) 2. Reaches MP is the worst seen in the halo franchise and halo 4 is looking better (but still not as good as 1-3) 3. Halo 4 sp is looking better than 3 and reach, step FORWARD!OB-47

Halo's horde mode was actually among the best in the industry.

I'm just stumped about the 8GB mandatory install ... I only have the 4GB Xbox 360 SJasonDarksavior