Im playing Modern Warfare 2 and im very impressed, yet confused.

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#1 360BandW
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Why does this game get so much hate? It is absolutely awesome, and Im a very hard guy to impress when it comes to gaming. Playing on the 360 I think the graphics in the singleplayer is the best on the console, the gameplay is excellent, and its engaging, i Just finished the West Virginia stage. Now why does this game get so much hate saying it isnt a good game? Thanks .
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The game is good, but many people don't like the controversial level where you shoot civilians in an airport. The game is also very popular, which is reason enough for some people to hate it.
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#3 fistoflight
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The game is good but the online componant upon release was plauged by a lot of glitches and bugs. Most of the hate though, came from the controversial russian level and no dedicated servers for pc.

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#4 D00nut
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It doesn't deserve half the hate it gets, but the game does suffer from flaws. My biggest gripe is how camper friendly the game is.

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#5 psn8214
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Its fun, but it gets old, at least for me.

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#6 johnnyblazed88
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its just become the popular game to hate on

even tho they added alot of new stuff people liketo sayits the same game as cod4

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#7 LegatoSkyheart
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No Dedicated Servers for PC users like the rest of the COD games.

and Glitches.

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#8 phatkav
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The story is a mess and online does get old (unless you always play in parties)

Spec Ops is about the only thing that I can't find any fault with.

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#9 tagyhag
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Eh, I like the game, it's just stupid fun, I don't like Activision though.
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#10 psn8214
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Eh, I like the game, it's just stupid fun, I don't like Activision though.tagyhag

It gets really old though... :P

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System Wars hates extremely popular games: Modern Warfare 2/Halo 3 mainly.

But they won't hate Gran Turismo, I wonder why...ratios, ratios....

to get back on topic, it's a messy game online, there's quite a few glitches and all that. fun, but not as fun as Left 4 Dead, off topic again, sorry.

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#12 mitu123
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But they won't hate Gran Turismo, I wonder why

HavocV3

Considering how GT is nowadays, I wonder that too, and I play GT games for piece sakes!

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#13 HavocV3
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No Dedicated Servers for PC users like the rest of the COD games.

and Glitches.

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meh, why should PC just be the ones to get dedicated though?

If you think about it, the vast amount of players across 3 platforms + Reflex and the other Modern Warfare versions would require WAY too many servers from Infinity Ward.

All platforms have games with dedicated servers on select games, just not understanding why game devs. have to be selective to one particular group.

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#14 Wasdie  Moderator
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its just become the popular game to hate on

even tho they added alot of new stuff people liketo sayits the same game as cod4

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You can keep adding new stuff to an old formula and the game woudl still get old. That is part of the reason I didn't play Halo 3 online nearly as much as Halo 2, it was just more of the same when it came down to it.

I don't find myself going back to old FPSs for the reason that they bore me. Luckily games like BF BC 2 and Borderlands keep innovating in different ways that make games fresh, even if it is only for a year or two before those also get stale.

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#15 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

No Dedicated Servers for PC users like the rest of the COD games.

and Glitches.

HavocV3

meh, why should PC just be the ones to get dedicated though?

If you think about it, the vast amount of players across 3 platforms + Reflex and the other Modern Warfare versions would require WAY too many servers from Infinity Ward.

All platforms have games with dedicated servers on select games, just not understanding why game devs. have to be selective to one particular group.

I have no freakin' clue. I guess PC users don't want to lag because of someone's connection.

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rather play killzone 2 or BF bad company 2 beta.
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#17 Mazoch
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However PC games have a long history of working off dedicated servers where it is very rare to see on the consoles (to be honest I cant think of a single game on the consoles that supports dedicated servers). I think you might be misunderstanding what people mean by dedicated servers. No one is expecting infinity ward to host the servers, rather they want to option for players to set up their own servers at the players own cost. The reason for this is that it allows players a far greater customization. Both in terms of pay style (The number of players, what perks players can take, what maps that are available) but also the play style and type of community. Some players hate that you can be banned for a few cuss words, others hate that you can end up in a game where someone else is cussing. Some people hate spawn camping others consider it a legit tactic. By using dedicated servers players can set up their own communities and own rules. By taking this away Infinity Ward essentially kills the community that was forming for the game. In regards to TC, I was not impressed which is part of my dislike for the game. It's not a horrible game it's just mediocre. The story is silly and incoherent. If MW1 was the black hawk down of main stream shooters, MW2 is the Chuck Noris / Rambo of mainstream shooter. Now, nothing wrong with that, but when IW see themselves as telling a serious, profound story it becomes embarrassing.
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#18 gamefan67
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Well the single player is very good (the story is very confusing). Specs Ops is a hell of a lot of fun.... Online is very camper friendly and extremely unbalanced, but the hit detection is much improved from the original Modern Warfare.
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#19 AsadMahdi59
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people claim its a rehash and the fact that its rediculouly popular.

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#20 X360PS3AMD05
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Cause it slapped PC gamers in the face? PC is where the series started, also the SP is short.
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Why does this game get so much hate? It is absolutely awesome, and Im a very hard guy to impress when it comes to gaming. Playing on the 360 I think the graphics in the singleplayer is the best on the console, the gameplay is excellent, and its engaging, i Just finished the West Virginia stage. Now why does this game get so much hate saying it isnt a good game? Thanks .360BandW

graphics are laughable compared to KZ2, U2, GEOW2, even FC2. Please never talk about graphics with a cod game, yet they are decent. ITs all about the noobish gameplay :P
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#22 gamer620
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The game is good, but many people don't like the controversial level where you shoot civilians in an airport. The game is also very popular, which is reason enough for some people to hate it.TheDuffman26
The No Russian level has nothing to do with why people "hate" this game. They think hating the game is equal to hating activision because they hate the guy running activision. It is stupid, but thats why message boards exist. To give these people a chance to let their voices be heard and vent about stupid stuff that they would never be caught in their right mind talking about in real life. I laugh every time someone says that they are boycotting activision by A: not buying any of their games or B: only buying used games.
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#23 Brownesque
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The games online component is a psychotic, imbalanced gameplay that is neither unique nor fun to play. NO attention was paid to game balance or basic aspects of game design like good spawning systems. YOU may find the leveling system addictive, but it IS imbalanced and it is tedious to me. The gameplay was stale and boring in COD2, which is why they found the need to give winning players AC130s and bombs to bombard/camp player spawns, but only made the online psychotic for obvious reasons. The netcode is bad. The singleplayer is disposable Michael Bay superhero garbage.
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[QUOTE="360BandW"]Why does this game get so much hate? It is absolutely awesome, and Im a very hard guy to impress when it comes to gaming. Playing on the 360 I think the graphics in the singleplayer is the best on the console, the gameplay is excellent, and its engaging, i Just finished the West Virginia stage. Now why does this game get so much hate saying it isnt a good game? Thanks .Ribnarak

graphics are laughable compared to KZ2, U2, GEOW2, even FC2. Please never talk about graphics with a cod game, yet they are decent. ITs all about the noobish gameplay :P
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COD4 looked amazing when it was released......... its just too bad MW2 looks about the same

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MP wise there is no reason to play it really compared to other online shooters. Hell I just got done with a session of BF2 and had more fun with it despite it being my first time playing BF2.

Spec Ops is easily the most redeeming thing out of it but even still I don't think that it is enough to make it great. A lot of the SP's "oh wow" moments weren't really that great. The American levels are awesome, especially of their own accord but aside from that its not nearly as memorable as cod4 campaign was.

Its a good game but its not amazing nor the best FPS this year.

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#26 Rockman999
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System Wars hates extremely popular games: Modern Warfare 2/Halo 3 mainly.

But they won't hate Gran Turismo, I wonder why...ratios, ratios....

to get back on topic, it's a messy game online, there's quite a few glitches and all that. fun, but not as fun as Left 4 Dead, off topic again, sorry.

HavocV3
What the frack are you talking about? GT gets a hell of a lot of hate, racers just don't get as much attention as FPS's. TC, MW2 is all flash and no substance, like others said "it gets old quick".It amazes me how people can think COD is actually intense or hectic :|.Why waste your time with subpar fps's like COD when you can enjoy quality fps's like Halo, Bad Company on consoles and much more superior fps's on pc?
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#27 Mr_Ditters
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Its so hated because its so popular. It also appeals to the casual gamer and little kids. Everyone has to be special, different, and go against the flow.

Its a good game. The muliplayer has a lot of customization and modes--things that most people find to be fun. However, I have to disagree about the graphics. I don't think they are great. IMO they are toned down to assure a solid, fast FPS because MW2 is supposed to be a fast paced shooter. So the graphics are just ok, but it runs smooth. Its a trade off.

I do find the little screaming, annoying, singing, prepubescent kids to be the worst part of that game. Mute ftw.

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I play it now and then, it's fun but it's not awesome.
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System Wars hates extremely popular games: Modern Warfare 2/Halo 3 mainly.

But they won't hate Gran Turismo, I wonder why...ratios, ratios....

to get back on topic, it's a messy game online, there's quite a few glitches and all that. fun, but not as fun as Left 4 Dead, off topic again, sorry.

HavocV3

Ya, GT gets no hate on here....:|

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#30 mitu123
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[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

System Wars hates extremely popular games: Modern Warfare 2/Halo 3 mainly.

But they won't hate Gran Turismo, I wonder why...ratios, ratios....

to get back on topic, it's a messy game online, there's quite a few glitches and all that. fun, but not as fun as Left 4 Dead, off topic again, sorry.

Chutebox

Ya, GT gets no hate on here....:|

Compared to other games, it doesn't get as much hate, Forza gets WAY more hate.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"]

System Wars hates extremely popular games: Modern Warfare 2/Halo 3 mainly.

But they won't hate Gran Turismo, I wonder why...ratios, ratios....

to get back on topic, it's a messy game online, there's quite a few glitches and all that. fun, but not as fun as Left 4 Dead, off topic again, sorry.

mitu123

Ya, GT gets no hate on here....:|

Compared to other games, it doesn't get as much hate, Forza gets WAY more hate.

I don't think so at all. There was a thread yesterday bashing GT and praising Forza as the greatest racing sim ever lol. GT really does get a lot of flak.
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

its just become the popular game to hate on

even tho they added alot of new stuff people liketo sayits the same game as cod4

Wasdie

You can keep adding new stuff to an old formula and the game woudl still get old. That is part of the reason I didn't play Halo 3 online nearly as much as Halo 2, it was just more of the same when it came down to it.

I don't find myself going back to old FPSs for the reason that they bore me. Luckily games like BF BC 2 and Borderlands keep innovating in different ways that make games fresh, even if it is only for a year or two before those also get stale.

Oh yeah Borderlands is a very great FPS/RPG, it's art style makes it very pleasing to watch and it's a welcomed change of pace from the dark/gritty art style that most UE3 games adopt.Idon't understand why people here don't talk about it as much, it's a shame:(.
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#33 mD-
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People always jump to the conclusion that people hate what's popular.

I come from a history of Counter Strike. Call of Duty to me a step backwards in gameplay because I feel that all of the guns in that game have NO recoil. It's scary how fast people can pull off headshots because of the no recoil. In addition, you can't shoot through as many walls as you can in Counter-Strike and you are fairly accurate while walking and shooting. Lastly, if you play the deathmatch, that mode is camp fest. I'll often hear new people talking about about how when you first play you'll die a lot. It doesn't matter if you're good at aiming, you'll die a million times. Reason is because of the campers and because people have a lack of knowledge about the maps so it's harder to know where to go.

Now, I don't hate MW2. In the past I really liked call of duty games because they were intense in the gameplay. I feel that the campaigns are intense and action packed, but now the game shows its age as it's running on an old engine (the explosions/smoke still look absolutely horrible btw). The game is just way too overhyped. The activision CEO basically has everyone by the nuts and people will now gobble up any rehash. Infinity Ward is going to have to pull off some supernatual **** to continuously top call of duty if they are going to be making more.

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Most people on this board are under age, so it may just be that its "cool" to hate on the popular game, and multiply that by 10 if that game happens to be an exclusive :P
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#35 mD-
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Most people on this board are under age, so it may just be that its "cool" to hate on the popular game, and multiply that by 10 if that game happens to be an exclusive :Pnavyguy21
most people who are underage are most likely to think the most popular games are the best. Where do you think the mass fanbase of Halo comes out of?
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Most people on this board are under age, so it may just be that its "cool" to hate on the popular game, and multiply that by 10 if that game happens to be an exclusive :PmD-
most people who are underage are most likely to think the most popular games are the best. Where do you think the mass fanbase of Halo comes out of?

Halo is so big for the same reason Wii is so big....it attracts casuals as well as hardcore fans. I have met/seen more adult men and women who play Halo faithfully than younger ones. I think you just HEAR, and SEE the younger crowd on these boards. What proof do you have to the contrary? Ive seen just about every poll on this forum asking the userbase's age, and the vast majority are under 18...........which usually come with more immaturity, and insecurity.
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#37 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Ya, GT gets no hate on here....:|

Chutebox

Compared to other games, it doesn't get as much hate, Forza gets WAY more hate.

I don't think so at all. There was a thread yesterday bashing GT and praising Forza as the greatest racing sim ever lol. GT really does get a lot of flak.

Er, yeah, but Forza gets bashed for it's graphics, sales and physics, something that GT does very well at.

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#38 shoryuken_
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Nowadays, aying that you like Modern Warfare 2 is like coming out of the closet. :P

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#39 Postal_Guy
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The game is good, but many people don't like the controversial level where you shoot civilians in an airport. The game is also very popular, which is reason enough for some people to hate it.TheDuffman26

I loved that level

if they made it with only those kinds of levels it would be my goty :twisted:

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#40 finalfantasy94
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To be honest after playing both cod4 and mw2 I like MW2 set pieces more. The story is still uninteresting and so are the characters,but the twist in it was still nice.

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#41 drakecool1
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the single player was too short but besides that it was a fun ride even though it didn't last long the multiplayer is great and so is spec op.

watch qwhen you beat the game youll make another post asking if that's it it feels unfinished in the single player.

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[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

[QUOTE="360BandW"]Why does this game get so much hate? It is absolutely awesome, and Im a very hard guy to impress when it comes to gaming. Playing on the 360 I think the graphics in the singleplayer is the best on the console, the gameplay is excellent, and its engaging, i Just finished the West Virginia stage. Now why does this game get so much hate saying it isnt a good game? Thanks .AsadMahdi59

graphics are laughable compared to KZ2, U2, GEOW2, even FC2. Please never talk about graphics with a cod game, yet they are decent. ITs all about the noobish gameplay :P
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COD4 looked amazing when it was released......... its just too bad MW2 looks about the same

I'll be looking forward to this irony when God of War 3 comes out.

Anyway, I understand why pc gamers would hate on MW2 but that about it tho.

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#43 ChiSoxBombers
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i loved it when it came out but now im completely bored with it. i will play the online from time-to-time but playing it just reminds me why i dont play it often. its just....more of the same, i guess.

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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

its just become the popular game to hate on

even tho they added alot of new stuff people liketo sayits the same game as cod4

Wasdie

You can keep adding new stuff to an old formula and the game woudl still get old. That is part of the reason I didn't play Halo 3 online nearly as much as Halo 2, it was just more of the same when it came down to it.

I don't find myself going back to old FPSs for the reason that they bore me. Luckily games like BF BC 2 and Borderlands keep innovating in different ways that make games fresh, even if it is only for a year or two before those also get stale.

Actually, I got really bored with Borderlands pretty fast. Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 are really the only innovating multiplayer games to me as far as first person shooters go in recent years. Just because I play with friends all the time I think, makes it so damn fun. Borderlands kind of felt like a chore after a while, even with friends.

I thought Battlefield BC was blah compared to BF2, so that really didn't do much for me.

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#45 VendettaRed07
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I cant stand it because of the really bad multiplayer maps, 10000s of glitches, Overpowered guns and killstreaks, and its the most camper friendly game probably ever

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#46 rolo107
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[QUOTE="johnnyblazed88"]

its just become the popular game to hate on

even tho they added alot of new stuff people liketo sayits the same game as cod4

Wasdie

You can keep adding new stuff to an old formula and the game woudl still get old. That is part of the reason I didn't play Halo 3 online nearly as much as Halo 2, it was just more of the same when it came down to it.

I don't find myself going back to old FPSs for the reason that they bore me. Luckily games like BF BC 2 and Borderlands keep innovating in different ways that make games fresh, even if it is only for a year or two before those also get stale.

I don't see how Bad Company 2 has innovated more than Call of Duty. Destructible environments, and huge maps is nothing new. A lot of what people praise BC2 for is stuff that was in Battlefield 2. I'm not one to complain, I love Battlefield, and Call of Duty.
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#47 GreyFoXX4
Member since 2008 • 3612 Posts

Bad netcode, party system has issues, match making is just horrible, horrible maps, gameplay to repetitive, noob friendly, campers delight. You can play all 15 maps and the gameplay feels the same through out. People vote to skip maps just for laughs I guess cause the maps all suck lol. Really its just mind numbing gameplay. People talk more about leveling than they do about gameplay.

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#48 razgriz_101
Member since 2007 • 16875 Posts

Bad netcode, party system has issues, match making is just horrible, horrible maps, gameplay to repetitive, noob friendly, campers delight. You can play all 15 maps and the gameplay feels the same through out. People vote to skip maps just for laughs I guess cause the maps all suck lol. Really its just mind numbing gameplay. People talk more about leveling than they do about gameplay.

GreyFoXX4

being honest i totally disagree (bolded)thats a good thing the amount of times when i played BF2 when i first started i got tanned and thought why did i even bother its not a good thing for a new player and that kinda statement imo reeks of elitism cause it levels the playing field and thus imo makes it more enjoyable.

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#49 johnny27
Member since 2006 • 4400 Posts

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

No Dedicated Servers for PC users like the rest of the COD games.

and Glitches.

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meh, why should PC just be the ones to get dedicated though?

If you think about it, the vast amount of players across 3 platforms + Reflex and the other Modern Warfare versions would require WAY too many servers from Infinity Ward.

All platforms have games with dedicated servers on select games, just not understanding why game devs. have to be selective to one particular group.

you clearly don't have any clue how dedicated servers work on pc... it cost infinity ward nothing to include dedicated servers for pc just need to code it into the game and release code for servers and the community will pay for and host all the servers ever needed. Dedicated servers had been a staple of pc gaming since the early days of quake mp and the community is what pays to keep em running not the developers.... so there is no reasons to not include dedicated servers for the pc version. p2p is a step backward not forwards theres a reasons when a console game actually has dedicated servers its considered a plus.

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#50 randomwiiplayer
Member since 2009 • 1804 Posts

I have no clue where the hate is coming from. From what I've played, there has only been one glitch, and it happened once. It is a great game, one of my favorite games of this gen.