Im really shocked at how much better Fable 3 is over Fable 2

I bought Fable 3 for xmas and in all honesty, I got 8 games and chose it to play first because the 80 hour roller coaster known as fallout new vegas changed my dna as a frustrated gamer at times. needless to say, i wanted to play something more lighthearted and charming... holy wow, Fable 3 is really excellent. the story is top notch, the graphics are incredible and immersive, the gameplay is great and im going to list, now 10 hours into the game why its better than Fable 2. say what you will system wars.

1. The not so important stuff finally feels not so important.

• sure its fun to blast a fart in some kids face, or dance around with some starlit, but c'mon do i really need a billion options and all this emphasis put on every single NPC in the game? Fable 3 does excellent at streamlining the experience to a few options that dont break up the flow of the game and keep things moving. kudos.

2. The weapons finally feel exciting to use.

• My biggest gripe with past fable games is that the weapons were a mess. not only did they feel unsatisfying and strangely similar, but those damn runes(?) that pigeon holed the weapon into one type of weapon really made my nitters steam. The new weapon leveling and achievment based upgrades to the weapons feels perfect. if i want my weapon to get better then i kill 300 hollow men etc. Further, because I know i am constantly leveling my weapons I am way more apt to use them all in each battle which creates a nice strategy in combat not found in previous Fable games. yup magic is overpowered, but I still want an awesome rifle/sword...

3. The story flows way better...

• The first few hours of Fable 2 were great, i loved the concept of being the kid and having the relationship with your sister and the dog etc. but it was ultimately the story of being a hero for being a heros sake. Fable 3 has me, for the first time in a fable game completelly invested in the progression of the story... I cant wait to get to the next part and I actually care how people view me in each village. I feel like a badass walking around with everyone looking to me to save them, and not, "hey everyone its the hero guy!! yay". Nope, Fable 3 makes you the hero that people know.

I felt compelled to share this because I know that when we see a 7.5 on a hyped game we all shutter and point and laugh, but I can honestly say this game is way better than the 7.5 it recieved here. It one of the more compelling games ive played this year and baring it jumping the shark completely I see it being a game i remember or quite some time. I've had two small sections of frame rate drop and thats it as far as performance hiccups, it really is a great game and I hope you dont miss it.

Id have to disagree Fable 3 is actually far worse then Fable 2...and I hated fable 2 completely.

I agree, fable is atleast 8.0 if not 8.5

Id have to disagree Fable 3 is actually far worse then Fable 2...and I hated fable 2 completely.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Id have to disagree Fable 3 is actually far worse then Fable 2...and I hated fable 2 completely.

TheEroica

Fable 4 needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

SteveTabernacle

Bringup those promises, Molineux!!

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

Id have to disagree Fable 3 is actually far worse then Fable 2...and I hated fable 2 completely.

SteveTabernacle

I thought Fable 3 was the best of the entire series. I went into it with fairly low standards and was pretty impressed by it.

I thought Fable 3 was the best of the entire series. I went into it with fairly low standards and was pretty impressed by it.

UnknownSniper65

fable 2 and 3 suck

sinpkr

I really enjoyed Fable 3, until about 3/4's of the way through. I want to avoid spoilers but I can't really pinpoint which part I'm talking about unless I do. Suffice to say the endgame feels incredibly rushed and I was left pretty disappointed.

To whoever said they need to start over with a fresh engine and fresh ideas, I totally ****ing agree.

Fable 3 is mediocre at best. Molyneaux failed again...

IMO Fable 2 > Fable TLC > Fable 3 ... I would love a Fable game with the setting/combat/spells in Fable I with Fable II's game size, interactions, dog and Fable III type story.

IMHO I thought fable 2 was the best game in the series. ;3

I was really shocked by Fable 3 as well...

Id have to disagree Fable 3 is actually far worse then Fable 2...and I hated fable 2 completely.

WilliamRLBaker

Fable 2 is an 8.5 in my book. I haven't played fable 3 but it looks AA.

Fable 3 is amazing, and Fable 2 was quite great two.

Don't believe the negativity, most ofthose people never even played either.

I haven't played number 3 but I hated Fable 2, I just think there's a myriad of both action RPG's and open-world RPG's who do the genre justice, and Fable was never one of them.

1) Is it more difficult?

• I spammed one spell continuosly (literally) to beat the first boss in fable II...it was super lame.

2) Is it more stable?

• Fable 2 froze for me MANY times and such.

3) Does it control like you are driving the character?

• Fable II felt like you were driving a car on ice and it was awful.

4) Are the animations and effects better? (not a BIG deal)

• The spells looked awful and the animations of diving into water were horrendous

5) Is there co-op and is it better than before?

• I never actually played the co-op but I hear it was awful.

Yeah I had some bad initial experiences with Fable II and its a shame because I was so excited to get it.

I really enjoyed Fable 3, until about 3/4's of the way through. I want to avoid spoilers but I can't really pinpoint which part I'm talking about unless I do. Suffice to say the endgame feels incredibly rushed and I was left pretty disappointed.

To whoever said they need to start over with a fresh engine and fresh ideas, I totally ****ing agree.

dommeus

1) Is it more difficult?

• I spammed one spell continuosly (literally) to beat the first boss in fable II...it was super lame.

2) Is it more stable?

• Fable 2 froze for me MANY times and such.

3) Does it control like you are driving the character?

• Fable II felt like you were driving a car on ice and it was awful.

4) Are the animations and effects better? (not a BIG deal)

• The spells looked awful and the animations of diving into water were horrendous

5) Is there co-op and is it better than before?

• I never actually played the co-op but I hear it was awful.

Yeah I had some bad initial experiences with Fable II and its a shame because I was so excited to get it.

NaveedLife

its one of my personal goty's :P i really enjoyed it and im going to be playing it again soon most likely even tho i have literally had my xbox 2 weeks and got 15 games for it...cant beat snagging games off mates for cheap and to bulk up pre-owned games that are out of print or tend to be hard to find :P

its one of my personal goty's :P i really enjoyed it and im going to be playing it again soon most likely even tho i have literally had my xbox 2 weeks and got 15 games for it...cant beat snagging games off mates for cheap and to bulk up pre-owned games that are out of print or tend to be hard to find :P

razgriz_101

Gonna give this a rent whenever i canMkavanaugh77

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

1) Is it more difficult?

• I spammed one spell continuosly (literally) to beat the first boss in fable II...it was super lame.

2) Is it more stable?

• Fable 2 froze for me MANY times and such.

3) Does it control like you are driving the character?

• Fable II felt like you were driving a car on ice and it was awful.

4) Are the animations and effects better? (not a BIG deal)

• The spells looked awful and the animations of diving into water were horrendous

5) Is there co-op and is it better than before?

• I never actually played the co-op but I hear it was awful.

Yeah I had some bad initial experiences with Fable II and its a shame because I was so excited to get it.

TheEroica

I am talking about Fable 3 in comparison to Fable 2 (my experiences with fable 2 that is). When I say is IT (it being Fable 3) more blah blah blah (comparing to Fable 2).

wow im really shocked at the amount of people who disliked fable...

I know its not the best game in the world or even the hardest or prettiest. but it is the games for me that finally pushed me towards getting the xbox...(cos i loved fable tlc)

and ok fable 3 has had its problems but i cant help but love the charm of these games and the story line in them. and i cant help but hope for a fable 4 (fingers crossed it will be the best one yet!!)

oh yea and happy new year to everyone here..!!!!!

My opinion on what I think about Fable 3 can't be expressed here, but generally I wanted to flush after I played it.

I enjoyed the previous games much more. I am really getting tired of designers stripping functionality out of a game and thinking it's some grand design choice. But that isn't my biggest beef with Fable 3, it's that the game doesn't know who the hell it's being marketed to.

Cant be worse then the garbage that was Fable2

My opinion on what I think about Fable 3 can't be expressed here, but generally I wanted to flush after I played it.

I enjoyed the previous games much more. I am really getting tired of designers stripping functionality out of a game and thinking it's some grand design choice. But that isn't my biggest beef with Fable 3, it's that the game doesn't know who the hell it's being marketed to.

heretrix

[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"]Fable 4 needs to be rebuilt from the ground up.

GreenGoblin2099

Bringup those promises, Molineux!!

Fable 3 is mediocre at best. Molyneaux failed again...

Gue1

I loved Fable 2, but after hearing complaints from a variety of sources (especially from the guys at GB), I'm waiting for it to hit $20 before a bite.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="bennie12"]

Fable 3 is amazing, and Fable 2 was quite great two.

Don't believe the negativity, most ofthose people never even played either.

bennie12

Ah, no, I said "most" people. Please check up on your comprehension skills. The reason I said that is because I have seen people on here say, "I haven't played Fable but it sucks,".

Good day

The criticism I've seen levied against Fable 3 has all been well supported and based in fact. It's not like there's nothing to criticize about that game, even you have to acknowledge that. It is effectively broken, and actually broken. If you don't mind the many flaws or think the good outweighs the bad then that's fine, but implying that the negativity is unfounded is just plain delusional. And it's mildly insulting of you to attack people's integrity by accusing them of lying, based on absolutely nothing.

I agree with you 100%

[QUOTE="bennie12"]

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] Wow...really? Because people don't agree with you, they've never played the game? :roll:InsaneBasura

Ah, no, I said "most" people. Please check up on your comprehension skills. The reason I said that is because I have seen people on here say, "I haven't played Fable but it sucks,".

Good day

The criticism I've seen levied against Fable 3 has all been well supported and based in fact. It's not like there's nothing to criticize about that game, even you have to acknowledge that. It is effectively broken, and actually broken. If you don't mind the many flaws or think the good outweighs the bad then that's fine, but implying that the negativity is unfounded is just plain delusional. And it's mildly insulting of you to attack people's integrity by accusing them of lying, based on absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"]

[QUOTE="bennie12"]

Ah, no, I said "most" people. Please check up on your comprehension skills. The reason I said that is because I have seen people on here say, "I haven't played Fable but it sucks,".

Good day

TheEroica

The criticism I've seen levied against Fable 3 has all been well supported and based in fact. It's not like there's nothing to criticize about that game, even you have to acknowledge that. It is effectively broken, and actually broken. If you don't mind the many flaws or think the good outweighs the bad then that's fine, but implying that the negativity is unfounded is just plain delusional. And it's mildly insulting of you to attack people's integrity by accusing them of lying, based on absolutely nothing.

I got spawned behind the chicken race table and could not get out of there. I could not fast travel as I was on an active quest. Only pure luck that after 15 minutes of trying to glitch through the geometry I finally did. They may have patched away glitches such as these, I don't know. I heard they patched silent Jasper, which I would say was definitely a broken feature. Although he mostly just tried to talk you into buying the ridiculous DLC, so I don't think I would've minded it being broken really.

As for it being effectively broken, you have not yet finished the game young man. You have much to learn. It is by design, it's supposed to be like that, but it is ****ed up.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="InsaneBasura"] And why would that lead you to the conclusion that most people who criticize Fable haven't played it?

The criticism I've seen levied against Fable 3 has all been well supported and based in fact. It's not like there's nothing to criticize about that game, even you have to acknowledge that. It is effectively broken, and actually broken. If you don't mind the many flaws or think the good outweighs the bad then that's fine, but implying that the negativity is unfounded is just plain delusional. And it's mildly insulting of you to attack people's integrity by accusing them of lying, based on absolutely nothing.

InsaneBasura

I got spawned behind the chicken race table and could not get out of there. I could not fast travel as I was on an active quest. Only pure luck that after 15 minutes of trying to glitch through the geometry I finally did. They may have patched away glitches such as these, I don't know. I heard they patched silent Jasper, which I would say was definitely a broken feature. Although he mostly just tried to talk you into buying the ridiculous DLC, so I don't think I would've minded it being broken really.

As for it being effectively broken, you have not yet finished the game young man. You have much to learn. It is by design, it's supposed to be like that, but it is ****ed up.

I feel Fable 2 was horrific and Fable 3 continuesthat legacy of being a simplyappalling game. I've been burned by Peter Molyneux once again. after I promised I wouldnt let him hurt me again :(

fair enough... ive definately had a few quirks that irritated me. I cant interact with my first wife namely. she just follows me around aimlessly not allowing me to speak to her or hold her hand or anything, but nothing as bad as what you said that has detered any mission ive done in the game. im at the 239 days till darkness point and ive done 60 missions. maybe the patch cleaned up a lot. I totally agree jasper is worthless. :)TheEroica

I quite liked Fable 2, and the shortcomings of Fable 3 were really disappointing to me. I'm glad some are able to enjoy the game regardless. I appreciated parts of it as well, but it was not a good sequel in my eyes.

Handholding
It is a finicky mechanic that looks busted and brings absolutely nothing to the game but frustration as you fail to lock onto people.

Dog
In Fable 3 it serves no other function than to point out treasures, which it inexplicably does much more poorly.

Waypoints
Also baflingly broken. More like "where?"*points*. Much too frequently the game gets confused and does not know where the waypoint is and points you in the wrong direction, or nowhere at all, just disappears.

Communication
The game now tells you which gesture you are to perform and you just basically press A two times or whatever. There is absolutely nothing compelling about this. And no longer can you crap your pants. Could just as well have been automated. And oh, only one person at a time.

Also, something that's peculiar in Fable 3 is that they decided the character would be able to speak like a normal person. So when you still communicate with people by whistling and farting in their faces, that is supremely supersenseless. There is no sense. You can't both have your cake and fart on it.

Relationships
To make friends with people involves performing a neverending series of raw ass fetch quests. This is not fun either. It is actively, abrasively tedious. It is the Fable version of mineral scanning. Whoever though of this ought to get slapped with a fish.

Where the f*** is my minimap?
Seriously. Where is it? Pressing start to bring up the sanctuary, run up to the map, press A and then not see where on that abstract map I am and be unable to set waypoints is not helpful.

Weapon upgrades
You earn them by performing sometimes really menial tasks. Kill 250 bandits in the day. How about no? It's like....why is the game like this? Why is it so set on trying to make you have a boring time?

Technical issues
There are, or at least were, a lot of them. Most of them small, but boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew...

Misc.
The economics and property ownership is about as involved as it was in Fable 2 I guess. Only now you have to bother with repairs. Which you as quickly as possible start not doing by solely owning shops.

The story was fairly flat and aimless. But I can't say it was worse than Fable 2's. Basically, the story was. It was a thing, and it wasn't bad. I don't feel this has ever been a strong point of the series.

Although the ending is ****ed up in a way that could totally ruin your day. I knew it was coming so I wiggled the stick around some while watching TV for a while. It is the worst kind of twist ending. Just borderline meanspirited. I don't know what they were trying to accomplish with it. Would love to hear it in a postmortem, along with explanations for the rest of the game being what it is.

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But it's not a wholly s***ty game, just disappointing. What still works is the writing and quirky charm. That's still very much a part of Fable. And it's what motivated me to complete the game. That and the Aurora section, which was an interesting diversion. And the combat was just about unsimple enough to not start feeling grating. Basically Fable 3 consists of a lot of parts, many of which are a bit rubbish, but a few of them are strong enough combined that they carry the game by themselves.

I'm really shocked people actually enjoy Fable. jg4xchamp

:)

fable 3 seem to short but ill give at least 8.3 scored in between an 8.0 and 8.5 not a great game but not good either so say its a fair game