I'm sorry but MGO really is awful

i got my ps3 about a week ago, but waited to set up psn until after i beat mgs4 (about 4 days ago)

i was going to just jump right back into mgs4 and go for some emblems, but i decided to try out mgo first. i had heard it was really bad, but i figured i might still like it

but damn man, its terrible. its been awhile since ive played a game with so few redeeming factors. its fun to mess around (ie with the cardboard box) but its really hard to take it seriously. i'm not bad at it, actually, but its just not fun. and when i do die its ALWAYS with a headshot....wtf! how? is there some skill that lets you auto headshot or something?

and i thought there was some kind of auto aim, is that one of the skills or something? cause i never get an auto aim. and another thing...why does it take a full magazine to kill someone? its one of the reasons i hate halo

not to mention theres no way to bring your health back, the magazine is so stupid, the spawn camping is everywhere (or enemies spawn behind you), the stealth is totally broken because the game is in a third person perspective and everyone can see behind them, the shock knife is cheap (fun yes, but still cheap), you have to level up a lot before you can slit throats, when you shoot from cover you stick your head about and then your gun...by then you've already had your brains blown out, no quick way to switch to just your knife for fast cqc combos, and the worst problem of all NO WAY TO SHOOT OVER COVER!

i thought that was a tad annoying in the single player, but then i was using just stealth so i didnt really matter, but in the mgo it totally ruins the game. you have to unstick from the wall, tap x, aim, shoot, tap x again, and then finally press triangle again (if you dont your head will still be a little stuck out...and so many people can get miracle headshots from across the map).

maybe with a massive amount of patchwork this can be good. but konami probably wont do it.

:(

sad, it had a lot of potential

Run, quick!

I hear MGS fanboys gathering their pitchforks as we speak!

We've already established that MGO isn't that great. Search forums next time.

Next!!

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I hear MGS fanboys gathering their pitchforks as we speak!

x_SuperMario_x

actually, most mgs fans accept that its bad

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Run, quick!

I hear MGS fanboys gathering their pitchforks as we speak!

REforever101

actually, most mgs fans accept that its bad

Therefore, the point of this thread is......what?

There was already like 2 threads about this very same point today.

I'm a huge MGS fan, and I'd give MGO a 7/10 on a good day. It's pretty fun IMO, however there's definitely some major annoyances, and headshots indeed happen all the time...wtf?

can't shoot over cover? thats pretty bad.. but at least you can still shoot around corners when your behind cover right?

Also lots of people have already said they dont enjoy MGO, no one blames you for not liking it.

MGO isn't that great, but hey, it was one heck of a great singleplayer game.

Try out COD4, Battlefield, Warhawk, or Resistance instead for your multiplayer woes.

Japanese devs really need to takea few lessons from American and European devs when it comes to online multiplayer games.

I have yet to see a Japanese game with decent online multiplayer.

:| Your just really bad at the game. Why else would you be complaining about auto aim? And if you want headshots shoot at the persons head its not like other TPS/FPS games where you can just spray. If you spray n pray in MGO your gonna get killed. The overall game is very fun and challenging.EVOLV3

i end most games with a kd ration of 3-1

its just not fun, nor even all that challenging. and im just complaining about auto aim cause it just seemed like everyone could auto aim my head from across the damn map with a handgun

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]:| Your just really bad at the game. Why else would you be complaining about auto aim? And if you want headshots shoot at the persons head its not like other TPS/FPS games where you can just spray. If you spray n pray in MGO your gonna get killed. The overall game is very fun and challenging.REforever101

i end most games with a kd ration of 3-1

its just not fun, nor even all that challenging. and im just complaining about auto aim cause it just seemed like everyone could auto aim my head from across the damn map with a handgun

[QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]:| Your just really bad at the game. Why else would you be complaining about auto aim? And if you want headshots shoot at the persons head its not like other TPS/FPS games where you can just spray. If you spray n pray in MGO your gonna get killed. The overall game is very fun and challenging.EVOLV3

i end most games with a kd ration of 3-1

its just not fun, nor even all that challenging. and im just complaining about auto aim cause it just seemed like everyone could auto aim my head from across the damn map with a handgun

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="EVOLV3"]:| Your just really bad at the game. Why else would you be complaining about auto aim? And if you want headshots shoot at the persons head its not like other TPS/FPS games where you can just spray. If you spray n pray in MGO your gonna get killed. The overall game is very fun and challenging.liberty71441

i end most games with a kd ration of 3-1

its just not fun, nor even all that challenging. and im just complaining about auto aim cause it just seemed like everyone could auto aim my head from across the damn map with a handgun

The one thing I love about it is CQC. Nothing like dragging someone to the ground till they pass out. deuce85

the move where you lay on them with a choke OWNS!

nothing in a mutiplayer game makes you feel like such of fool when that happens to you.

I would give MGO a 8/10 if it wasn't for the lag... And it isn't just network lag either, MGS4 itself lags and with MGO it gets even worse.

So it gets a 7/10 from me.

It's very unbalanced.

BTW i'm top 3 in kills by the end of every game. I'm not complaining cause i suck, im complaining because MGO sucks.

Meh, I love it. Aside from SNE and TSNE, it's absolutely amazing. I usually hate online games, but I'm very addicted to this one.

[QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="x_SuperMario_x"]

Run, quick!

I hear MGS fanboys gathering their pitchforks as we speak!

RotaryRX7

actually, most mgs fans accept that its bad

Therefore, the point of this thread is......what?

There was already like 2 threads about this very same point today.

I'm a huge MGS fan, and I'd give MGO a 7/10 on a good day. It's pretty fun IMO, however there's definitely some major annoyances, and headshots indeed happen all the time...wtf?

I've shot someone in the side and got a headshot, maybe it lagged because I kind of aimed down as I shot but still... I thought it was a real inconsistent mess, but parts of it were fun and interesting, so I agree with your score. It is generally fun. : ))

Headshots: You know, it's not hard to aim for the head. There's no skill to do it in-game, the skill is within the player.

Full magazine to kill someone: Depending on where you aim and how you move. If you are moving, you'll get recoil. If you don't aim for the upper-body, and shoot at someone's legs, obviously, you won't die if only your legs are shot at. Why do people overlook these factors?

No health-regeneration: This is one of the worst features in online gaming. I'm glad there isn't a way to regenerate health. It's very unrealistic. In COD4, you're like "OH SNAP I GOT SHOT 3 TIMES IN THE CHEST! BETTER CAMP OUT FOR 10 SECONDS AND I'LL BE FINE!".

Magazine is stupid: Or you don't know how to use it. The Playboy is the best item I think. I can trap people with it, knife them in the back. It's stupid to those who have no patience or don't know where to put them, or those who get trapped in them.

Spawn Camping: Enemies don't spawn behind you, There is spawn-camping, but that's in every game. You can go to "Start", "Host", and "Kick" and select the camper. Usually, people will kick him in two seconds. Not so hard now is it?

Stealth is broken: If you don't know how to stay in shadows, when to move, when to use the box, which alleyways to take. Please, this game takes quite a bit of knowledge of the areas you're playing in, and how the game works.

Shock knife is cheap: No. Shoot a guy trying to knife you. Problem solved. If a guy shocks you from behind, it's your own damn fault.

You have to level skill to slit throats: Yes. Because they want the elite players to have the best features. It actually has a great reward system. Why is this a negative? Because you don't know how to kill people with knives?

Cover System sucks: I agree. Don't use it. Use your own system where you don't press triangle, but lean against the wall. Go to first person, press right or left on the d-pad.

Metal Gear Online is an amazing shooter. Quite unique, and takes skill to be good at it. There's tons of skill points you need to level, which takes hard work. You obviously show you don't know how to play this game. This is one of the few games where skill is a must to succeed. I love it. This isn't a fanboy comment, honestly, I just love it. It's brilliant. Although there needs to be small work done, it's a really really fun game imo. Some of your arguments though make no sense as you obviously haven't bothered at prefecting skill in the game.

Headshots: You know, it's not hard to aim for the head. There's no skill to do it in-game, the skill is within the player.

Full magazine to kill someone: Depending on where you aim and how you move. If you are moving, you'll get recoil. If you don't aim for the upper-body, and shoot at someone's legs, obviously, you won't die if only your legs are shot at. Why do people overlook these factors?

No health-regeneration: This is one of the worst features in online gaming. I'm glad there isn't a way to regenerate health. It's very unrealistic. In COD4, you're like "OH SNAP I GOT SHOT 3 TIMES IN THE CHEST! BETTER CAMP OUT FOR 10 SECONDS AND I'LL BE FINE!".

Magazine is stupid: Or you don't know how to use it. The Playboy is the best item I think. I can trap people with it, knife them in the back. It's stupid to those who have no patience or don't know where to put them, or those who get trapped in them.

Spawn Camping: Enemies don't spawn behind you, There is spawn-camping, but that's in every game. You can go to "Start", "Host", and "Kick" and select the camper. Usually, people will kick him in two seconds. Not so hard now is it?

Stealth is broken: If you don't know how to stay in shadows, when to move, when to use the box, which alleyways to take. Please, this game takes quite a bit of knowledge of the areas you're playing in, and how the game works.

Shock knife is cheap: No. Shoot a guy trying to knife you. Problem solved. If a guy shocks you from behind, it's your own damn fault.

You have to level skill to slit throats: Yes. Because they want the elite players to have the best features. It actually has a great reward system. Why is this a negative? Because you don't know how to kill people with knives?

Cover System sucks: I agree. Don't use it. Use your own system where you don't press triangle, but lean against the wall. Go to first person, press right or left on the d-pad.

Metal Gear Online is an amazing shooter. Quite unique, and takes skill to be good at it. There's tons of skill points you need to level, which takes hard work. You obviously show you don't know how to play this game. This is one of the few games where skill is a must to succeed. I love it. This isn't a fanboy comment, honestly, I just love it. It's brilliant. Although there needs to be small work done, it's a really really fun game imo. Some of your arguments though make no sense as you obviously haven't bothered at prefecting skill in the game.

Albanian_Killa

It sucks dude, get over it

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krp008

It sucks dude, get over it

If you give valid reasons. His reasons were pathetic. If you say there's some glitches, yes. It's not a perfect game. Saying it sucks is BS as this game doesn't suck.It's a great shooter. I don't see how it sucks. Maybe you people die everytime and run and gun which is something you don't do. Provide valid reasons. Not BS crap.

I can almost see what you're saying. I dont think it's aweful, I actually enjoy it alot, but it's no COD4 by any stretch.carljohnson3456

You people need to learn some shooters aren't trying to be COD4. They're trying to be their own game. MGO is a Metal Gear game. It has its own methods of gameplay

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

liberty71441

It sucks dude, get over it

If you give valid reasons. His reasons were pathetic. If you say there's some glitches, yes. It's not a perfect game. Saying it sucks is BS as this game doesn't suck.It's a great shooter. I don't see how it sucks. Maybe you people die everytime and run and gun which is something you don't do. Provide valid reasons. Not BS crap.

Great. More reasons that try and prove me wrong :roll: I see there's noone here who's reasonable at all. At least tell me why. Don't say "Levelling up skill is hard" as to why it sucks.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="liberty71441"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

krp008

It sucks dude, get over it

If you give valid reasons. His reasons were pathetic. If you say there's some glitches, yes. It's not a perfect game. Saying it sucks is BS as this game doesn't suck.It's a great shooter. I don't see how it sucks. Maybe you people die everytime and run and gun which is something you don't do. Provide valid reasons. Not BS crap.

Great. More reasons that try and prove me wrong :roll: I see there's noone here who's reasonable at all. At least tell me why. Don't say "Levelling up skill is hard" as to why it sucks.

Dude, the MP sucks. I know you have your fanboy goggles on but come on! Lets be realistic here!

Of coures, you know! Why, having a GamerTag but no where in sight a PSN ID shows you've played it thoroughly. Offer no reasons, call me a fanboy, telling me it sucks. Great arguments. Man, what has happened to SW?

[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="liberty71441"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

Albanian_Killa

It sucks dude, get over it

If you give valid reasons. His reasons were pathetic. If you say there's some glitches, yes. It's not a perfect game. Saying it sucks is BS as this game doesn't suck.It's a great shooter. I don't see how it sucks. Maybe you people die everytime and run and gun which is something you don't do. Provide valid reasons. Not BS crap.

Great. More reasons that try and prove me wrong :roll: I see there's noone here who's reasonable at all. At least tell me why. Don't say "Levelling up skill is hard" as to why it sucks.

Dude, the MP sucks. I know you have your fanboy goggles on but come on! Lets be realistic here!

Of coures, you know! Why, having a GamerTag but no where in sight a PSN ID shows you've played it thoroughly. Offer no reasons, call me a fanboy, telling me it sucks. Great arguments. Man, what has happened to SW?

Why would i want to play a MP game that obviously sucks thoroughly? I do not enjoy waisting my time

Meh, I love it. Aside from SNE and TSNE, it's absolutely amazing. I usually hate online games, but I'm very addicted to this one.

bstarter29

i got my ps3 about a week ago, but waited to set up psn until after i beat mgs4 (about 4 days ago)

i was going to just jump right back into mgs4 and go for some emblems, but i decided to try out mgo first. i had heard it was really bad, but i figured i might still like it

but damn man, its terrible. its been awhile since ive played a game with so few redeeming factors. its fun to mess around (ie with the cardboard box) but its really hard to take it seriously. i'm not bad at it, actually, but its just not fun. and when i do die its ALWAYS with a headshot....wtf! how? is there some skill that lets you auto headshot or something?

and i thought there was some kind of auto aim, is that one of the skills or something? cause i never get an auto aim. and another thing...why does it take a full magazine to kill someone? its one of the reasons i hate halo

not to mention theres no way to bring your health back, the magazine is so stupid, the spawn camping is everywhere (or enemies spawn behind you), the stealth is totally broken because the game is in a third person perspective and everyone can see behind them, the shock knife is cheap (fun yes, but still cheap), you have to level up a lot before you can slit throats, when you shoot from cover you stick your head about and then your gun...by then you've already had your brains blown out, no quick way to switch to just your knife for fast cqc combos, and the worst problem of all NO WAY TO SHOOT OVER COVER!

i thought that was a tad annoying in the single player, but then i was using just stealth so i didnt really matter, but in the mgo it totally ruins the game. you have to unstick from the wall, tap x, aim, shoot, tap x again, and then finally press triangle again (if you dont your head will still be a little stuck out...and so many people can get miracle headshots from across the map).

maybe with a massive amount of patchwork this can be good. but konami probably wont do it.

:(

sad, it had a lot of potential

REforever101

Headshots: You know, it's not hard to aim for the head. There's no skill to do it in-game, the skill is within the player. The Hit box is gigantic, you are almost guaranteed a headshot if you put their head in the box and fire.

Full magazine to kill someone: Depending on where you aim and how you move. If you are moving, you'll get recoil. If you don't aim for the upper-body, and shoot at someone's legs, obviously, you won't die if only your legs are shot at. Why do people overlook these factors? I've aimed at the upper body, and it takes forever to kill someone that way. Sniper's have a huge advantage, when you shoot at them, there is no stager, meaning their aim remains perfect.

No health-regeneration: This is one of the worst features in online gaming. I'm glad there isn't a way to regenerate health. It's very unrealistic. In COD4, you're like "OH SNAP I GOT SHOT 3 TIMES IN THE CHEST! BETTER CAMP OUT FOR 10 SECONDS AND I'LL BE FINE!". Unrealistic? You were just telling us how "People don't die when shot in the legs". Yeh, they might not die, but they are definatly crippled. If you are going for realism, then it should be 2 shots to the chest for a kill, not half a mag.

Magazine is stupid: Or you don't know how to use it. The Playboy is the best item I think. I can trap people with it, knife them in the back. It's stupid to those who have no patience or don't know where to put them, or those who get trapped in them.

Spawn Camping: Enemies don't spawn behind you, There is spawn-camping, but that's in every game. You can go to "Start", "Host", and "Kick" and select the camper. Usually, people will kick him in two seconds. Not so hard now is it? That doesn't always work.

Stealth is broken: If you don't know how to stay in shadows, when to move, when to use the box, which alleyways to take. Please, this game takes quite a bit of knowledge of the areas you're playing in, and how the game works.

Shock knife is cheap: No. Shoot a guy trying to knife you. Problem solved. If a guy shocks you from behind, it's your own damn fault.

You have to level skill to slit throats: Yes. Because they want the elite players to have the best features. It actually has a great reward system. Why is this a negative? Because you don't know how to kill people with knives? This kind of reward system only discourages new players.

Cover System sucks: I agree. Don't use it. Use your own system where you don't press triangle, but lean against the wall. Go to first person, press right or left on the d-pad.

Metal Gear Online is an amazing shooter. Quite unique, and takes skill to be good at it. There's tons of skill points you need to level, which takes hard work. You obviously show you don't know how to play this game. This is one of the few games where skill is a must to succeed. I love it. This isn't a fanboy comment, honestly, I just love it. It's brilliant. Although there needs to be small work done, it's a really really fun game imo. Some of your arguments though make no sense as you obviously haven't bothered at prefecting skill in the game.It takes barely any skill whatsoever.

Albanian_Killa

[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="liberty71441"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

Albanian_Killa

It sucks dude, get over it

If you give valid reasons. His reasons were pathetic. If you say there's some glitches, yes. It's not a perfect game. Saying it sucks is BS as this game doesn't suck.It's a great shooter. I don't see how it sucks. Maybe you people die everytime and run and gun which is something you don't do. Provide valid reasons. Not BS crap.

Great. More reasons that try and prove me wrong :roll: I see there's noone here who's reasonable at all. At least tell me why. Don't say "Levelling up skill is hard" as to why it sucks.

Dude, the MP sucks. I know you have your fanboy goggles on but come on! Lets be realistic here!

Of coures, you know! Why, having a GamerTag but no where in sight a PSN ID shows you've played it thoroughly. Offer no reasons, call me a fanboy, telling me it sucks. Great arguments. Man, what has happened to SW?

Why would i want to play a MP game that obviously sucks thoroughly? I do not enjoy waisting my time

So STFU with your BS if you've never played it. Coming in here, providing no points, saying it sucks. Haven't even played it. Whatever happened to intelligent people?

I laugh at those who say that MGO sucks without a valid reason.Khoaki

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"]

Headshots: You know, it's not hard to aim for the head. There's no skill to do it in-game, the skill is within the player. The Hit box is gigantic, you are almost guaranteed a headshot if you put their head in the box and fire. -He says he can't do it but people can. Of course if you aim in real life at someone's head and let loose, you're going to shoot him in the head.

Full magazine to kill someone: Depending on where you aim and how you move. If you are moving, you'll get recoil. If you don't aim for the upper-body, and shoot at someone's legs, obviously, you won't die if only your legs are shot at. Why do people overlook these factors? I've aimed at the upper body, and it takes forever to kill someone that way. Sniper's have a huge advantage, when you shoot at them, there is no stager, meaning their aim remains perfect. - I'll admit, it takes quite a bit to kill someone, but that's why you aim for the head. Also, take into account people wear armor, they aren't bare naked.

No health-regeneration: This is one of the worst features in online gaming. I'm glad there isn't a way to regenerate health. It's very unrealistic. In COD4, you're like "OH SNAP I GOT SHOT 3 TIMES IN THE CHEST! BETTER CAMP OUT FOR 10 SECONDS AND I'LL BE FINE!". Unrealistic? You were just telling us how "People don't die when shot in the legs". Yeh, they might not die, but they are definatly crippled. If you are going for realism, then it should be 2 shots to the chest for a kill, not half a mag. - So there's no cripples in the game, obviously now we have to take all realistic features away because a couple are missing. Health regeneration destroys the point of someone's hard work. Let's say I shoot someone but he kills me. I leave enough damage for a teammate to finish them off. This is helpful in Capture missions when they're carrying packages to extract.

Magazine is stupid: Or you don't know how to use it. The Playboy is the best item I think. I can trap people with it, knife them in the back. It's stupid to those who have no patience or don't know where to put them, or those who get trapped in them.

Spawn Camping: Enemies don't spawn behind you, There is spawn-camping, but that's in every game. You can go to "Start", "Host", and "Kick" and select the camper. Usually, people will kick him in two seconds. Not so hard now is it? That doesn't always work. - A lot of people actually will go for yes when you vote for a kick. Clearly state in the chat so and so is spawn camping, initiate a vote, and you're good.

Stealth is broken: If you don't know how to stay in shadows, when to move, when to use the box, which alleyways to take. Please, this game takes quite a bit of knowledge of the areas you're playing in, and how the game works.

Shock knife is cheap: No. Shoot a guy trying to knife you. Problem solved. If a guy shocks you from behind, it's your own damn fault.

You have to level skill to slit throats: Yes. Because they want the elite players to have the best features. It actually has a great reward system. Why is this a negative? Because you don't know how to kill people with knives? This kind of reward system only discourages new players. - So now we have to sacrifice great gameplay challenges for new players? Why does it discourage new players? It should encourage them to keep playing MGO to gain skill. There are newbie servers for them to start out at before they head off to the advanced lobbies. VAMP: Beginner. Look it up.

Cover System sucks: I agree. Don't use it. Use your own system where you don't press triangle, but lean against the wall. Go to first person, press right or left on the d-pad.

Metal Gear Online is an amazing shooter. Quite unique, and takes skill to be good at it. There's tons of skill points you need to level, which takes hard work. You obviously show you don't know how to play this game. This is one of the few games where skill is a must to succeed. I love it. This isn't a fanboy comment, honestly, I just love it. It's brilliant. Although there needs to be small work done, it's a really really fun game imo. Some of your arguments though make no sense as you obviously haven't bothered at prefecting skill in the game.It takes barely any skill whatsoever. - Looking at scoreboards when games are over, the scores of people aren't always that great. It takes quite a bit of skill to learn this game, raise skill points, know which ones to use and how to enter a situation.

AAllxxjjnn

Great job though for coming up with points. Some here can't even do that.

I laugh at those who say that MGO sucks without a valid reason.Khoaki

1. Controls are slow and clunky

2. Basically a few maps stronger then what we got with the beta, or essentially a half-assed product.

3. Combatants take 3000 body shots to down when compared to 1 or 2 headshots. It's nice to add realism, but people can die from a shot to the heart too.

4. Gfx are a huge drop off from the SP campaign, which is probably the most beutiful game of this gen.

5. The most glaring and troubling issue. Nobody plays this game the way it was meant to be played, it more often then not boils down to a frag fest in a MGS backdrop.

I could go on....

There are so many better MP games out there, I won't waste one more minute of my life with this lackluster offering.

My PSN name and Konami ID is MP5, but you'll proably see me playing MLB 08, or something worthwhile.