I'm sorry but MGO really is awful

[QUOTE="ViolentPressure"]

Japanese devs really need to takea few lessons from American and European devs when it comes to online multiplayer games.

I have yet to see a Japanese game with decent online multiplayer.

Ninten007

And Western devs really need to take a few lessons fron Japanese devs to learn how to push hardware to its limits and make epic single player games.

Kojima disagrees. Recently I read an article where he said that the Japanese have fallen far behind the West in terms of doing just what you said. So yeah you fail.

There is a learning curve. I'm not surprise people don't like. (Comment is heavily undertoned with a message.)DragonFlyJ

lol its the learning curve now? wow. denial is so thick.

Yeah. One thing about the hit detection. EVERY shooting game I have played this gen on consoles has such crappy hit detection it makes me want to stop playing the game...which I did.

The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.PSYB0RG1

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

I see most of the people complaining as those who are noobs. This game isn't easy, it's not like any other shooting game on purpose. This game takes time to master. MGO has always been about headshots. This isn't the first MGO you noobs. The first one on MGS3 and MGS: P O both were like this. If you take the time to learn the game you prolly wouldn't be whining about it. How about you start aiming for the head? If you died after 2 shots like COD4 then EVERYBODY would auto aim. That wouldn't be fun now would it...

AAllxxjjnn

I come in the top 3 in pretty much every game i am in. Sorry if the truth hurts, im just being un-bias.

The only people i see praising it are the ones who have very little experiece with online games. Oh, i can generalize too.

LOLz, what does top 3 mean? Nothing. What level was the room that you were in? I guarantee that you weren't in a room with skilled players. Very little online gaming experience? I have Gears, Halo3, Warhawk, COD4, Virtua Fighter5, Rainbow6 Vegas 1 and 2, Resistance, etc... please come again.

top 3 in kills, what else would that mean?

I notice you have poor reading skills too, Notice when i said "Oh, i can generalize too." I was making assumptions, just like you were when you said "I see most of the people complaining as those who are noobs." I wasnt saying you didnt have any online experience.

Umm, being top 3 in a room full of noobs doesn't impress me.

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.GoldenGlove

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

not true in the least

i usually always win, and i still hate it

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.GoldenGlove

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

No, you shouldn't have to empty a clip to kill a guy. However, I do think it should be that way if you're using auto aim.

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

I see most of the people complaining as those who are noobs. This game isn't easy, it's not like any other shooting game on purpose. This game takes time to master. MGO has always been about headshots. This isn't the first MGO you noobs. The first one on MGS3 and MGS: P O both were like this. If you take the time to learn the game you prolly wouldn't be whining about it. How about you start aiming for the head? If you died after 2 shots like COD4 then EVERYBODY would auto aim. That wouldn't be fun now would it...

GoldenGlove

I come in the top 3 in pretty much every game i am in. Sorry if the truth hurts, im just being un-bias.

The only people i see praising it are the ones who have very little experiece with online games. Oh, i can generalize too.

LOLz, what does top 3 mean? Nothing. What level was the room that you were in? I guarantee that you weren't in a room with skilled players. Very little online gaming experience? I have Gears, Halo3, Warhawk, COD4, Virtua Fighter5, Rainbow6 Vegas 1 and 2, Resistance, etc... please come again.

top 3 in kills, what else would that mean?

I notice you have poor reading skills too, Notice when i said "Oh, i can generalize too." I was making assumptions, just like you were when you said "I see most of the people complaining as those who are noobs." I wasnt saying you didnt have any online experience.

Umm, being top 3 in a room full of noobs doesn't impress me.

And you are making more assumptions, way to go.

u have to ajust to the stealth gameplay, i personally love itwinner-ps3

oh, the stealth gameplay that doesn't even translate very well into multiplayer?

Forget about the gameplay. Actually getting set up was harder than the Mile High Club achievement in CoD4.DonPerian

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.GoldenGlove

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

There is a BIG difference between a game that is being intentionally difficult and one that is like that because of poor design.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.L1qu1dSword

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

There is a BIG difference between a game that is being intentionally difficult and one that is like that because of poor design.

Poor design? It follows the same design as MGS4. Did you expect it to radically have a different design? Please, people who suck at MGO, don't know how to use stun knives and get stunned, can't level up their blades and CQC skill and end up getting their throats slit are the ones coming here saying it sucks. The "poor design" is the very same design in MGS4, and that got a 10. Poor design :roll:

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.Albanian_Killa

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

There is a BIG difference between a game that is being intentionally difficult and one that is like that because of poor design.

Poor design? It follows the same design as MGS4. Did you expect it to radically have a different design? Please, people who suck at MGO, don't know how to use stun knives and get stunned, can't level up their blades and CQC skill and end up getting their throats slit are the ones coming here saying it sucks. The "poor design" is the very same design in MGS4, and that got a 10. Poor design :roll:

Yeh, poor design for an online game. Single player design doesn't always translate well into multiplayer.

[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.AAllxxjjnn

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

There is a BIG difference between a game that is being intentionally difficult and one that is like that because of poor design.

Poor design? It follows the same design as MGS4. Did you expect it to radically have a different design? Please, people who suck at MGO, don't know how to use stun knives and get stunned, can't level up their blades and CQC skill and end up getting their throats slit are the ones coming here saying it sucks. The "poor design" is the very same design in MGS4, and that got a 10. Poor design :roll:

Yeh, poor design for an online game. Single player design doesn't always translate well into multiplayer.

Is it a poor design because you suck at the game? Please, take a camera, and take a photo of your stats. Let's see how your K/D ratio is, how many times you fall for traps, etc. The poor design is poor for those who can't use it. Those who can love it. It's a challenging game with a difficult learning curve. Is that bad? No. Spending time to learn a game and get good at it, and acquire skill is a positive.

[QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="ViolentPressure"]

Japanese devs really need to takea few lessons from American and European devs when it comes to online multiplayer games.

I have yet to see a Japanese game with decent online multiplayer.

L1qu1dSword

And Western devs really need to take a few lessons fron Japanese devs to learn how to push hardware to its limits and make epic single player games.

Kojima disagrees. Recently I read an article where he said that the Japanese have fallen far behind the West in terms of doing just what you said. So yeah you fail.

You mean as like CoD4, where it takes a couple shots from an MP5 to kill someone from 700 feet away from you? Totaly good online with awesome realism, totally, the Japanese know how to make a game good, whether it would be single or a multiplayer game.

Hell, if they wanted to make something like a CoD4, they could do, hell, they'll even make it even more noob friendly, have an auto-aim to the face, and 1 hit k-o shots with a fecking glock. All in all, the Japanese are great game developers and they dominate all Western developers, all Western developers had humble beginnings learning from the Japanese methods.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="ViolentPressure"]

Japanese devs really need to takea few lessons from American and European devs when it comes to online multiplayer games.

I have yet to see a Japanese game with decent online multiplayer.

supergamer918

And Western devs really need to take a few lessons fron Japanese devs to learn how to push hardware to its limits and make epic single player games.

Kojima disagrees. Recently I read an article where he said that the Japanese have fallen far behind the West in terms of doing just what you said. So yeah you fail.

You mean as like CoD4, where it takes a couple shots from an MP5 to kill someone from 700 feet away from you? Totaly good online with awesome realism, totally, the Japanese know how to make a game good, whether it would be single or a multiplayer game.

Hell, if they wanted to make something like a CoD4, they could do, hell, they'll even make it even more noob friendly, have an auto-aim to the face, and 1 hit k-o shots with a fecking glock. All in all, the Japanese are great game developers and they dominate all Western developers, all Western developers had humble beginnings learning from the Japanese methods.

listen if kojima himself is admitting they are behind the west in terms of the technical side of game development im inclined to believe it especially since thats consistent with what ive seen in reality.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="ViolentPressure"]

Japanese devs really need to takea few lessons from American and European devs when it comes to online multiplayer games.

I have yet to see a Japanese game with decent online multiplayer.

supergamer918

And Western devs really need to take a few lessons fron Japanese devs to learn how to push hardware to its limits and make epic single player games.

Kojima disagrees. Recently I read an article where he said that the Japanese have fallen far behind the West in terms of doing just what you said. So yeah you fail.

You mean as like CoD4, where it takes a couple shots from an MP5 to kill someone from 700 feet away from you? Totaly good online with awesome realism, totally, the Japanese know how to make a game good, whether it would be single or a multiplayer game.

Hell, if they wanted to make something like a CoD4, they could do, hell, they'll even make it even more noob friendly, have an auto-aim to the face, and 1 hit k-o shots with a fecking glock. All in all, the Japanese are great game developers and they dominate all Western developers, all Western developers had humble beginnings learning from the Japanese methods.

Realism please tell me how MGO illustrates any sort of realism...

Cause getting headshots with an M4 or SCAR from 700 feet away is realistic, because that's how it is in MGO.

Noob friendly? Like Counter Strike, thats real noob friendly.

Please tell me what they dominate in?

[QUOTE="supergamer918"][QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"][QUOTE="Ninten007"][QUOTE="ViolentPressure"]

Japanese devs really need to takea few lessons from American and European devs when it comes to online multiplayer games.

I have yet to see a Japanese game with decent online multiplayer.

AAllxxjjnn

And Western devs really need to take a few lessons fron Japanese devs to learn how to push hardware to its limits and make epic single player games.

Kojima disagrees. Recently I read an article where he said that the Japanese have fallen far behind the West in terms of doing just what you said. So yeah you fail.

You mean as like CoD4, where it takes a couple shots from an MP5 to kill someone from 700 feet away from you? Totaly good online with awesome realism, totally, the Japanese know how to make a game good, whether it would be single or a multiplayer game.

Hell, if they wanted to make something like a CoD4, they could do, hell, they'll even make it even more noob friendly, have an auto-aim to the face, and 1 hit k-o shots with a fecking glock. All in all, the Japanese are great game developers and they dominate all Western developers, all Western developers had humble beginnings learning from the Japanese methods.

Realism please tell me how MGO illustrates any sort of realism...

Cause getting headshots with an M4 or SCAR from 700 feet away is realistic, because that's how it is in MGO.

Noob friendly? Like Counter Strike, thats real noob friendly.

Please tell me what they dominate in?

In that paticular example, then it is an example of realism, if you really want to know.

A M4 has a Muzzle Velocity of 884 m/s, so with a few adjustments it should be able to hit. And kill for that matter. Not familiar with a SCAR though (?).

It's not - terrible - but it certainly isn't the next SOCOM or GRAW in the realm of tactical shooters. I can see it's attraction though. They added in a new mode a few days ago, Team Sneaking is awesome :) Though it has some several real questionable design choices such as being region locked and the entire Konami ID thing.thrones

What do you mean region-locked? The software? Usually it's the hardware that they lock, but my Japanese PS3/American software has no problem getting online and playing with my fellow Americans.

i got my ps3 about a week ago, but waited to set up psn until after i beat mgs4 (about 4 days ago)

i was going to just jump right back into mgs4 and go for some emblems, but i decided to try out mgo first. i had heard it was really bad, but i figured i might still like it

but damn man, its terrible. its been awhile since ive played a game with so few redeeming factors. its fun to mess around (ie with the cardboard box) but its really hard to take it seriously. i'm not bad at it, actually, but its just not fun. and when i do die its ALWAYS with a headshot....wtf! how? is there some skill that lets you auto headshot or something?

Its quite easy, you have an aim of half the screen, just unload a clip aiming to the head and voila

and i thought there was some kind of auto aim, is that one of the skills or something? cause i never get an auto aim. and another thing...why does it take a full magazine to kill someone? its one of the reasons i hate halo

You can kill anybody with a single shot, depending where you hit them. Also check the caliber of the gun, since different guns have different power levels (I can take 3 guys with one clip)

not to mention theres no way to bring your health back, the magazine is so stupid, the spawn camping is everywhere (or enemies spawn behind you), the stealth is totally broken because the game is in a third person perspective and everyone can see behind them, the shock knife is cheap (fun yes, but still cheap), you have to level up a lot before you can slit throats, when you shoot from cover you stick your head about and then your gun...by then you've already had your brains blown out, no quick way to switch to just your knife for fast cqc combos, and the worst problem of all NO WAY TO SHOOT OVER COVER!

You can shoot over cover, just from the sides though. If you just press side and aim you will do the stand out move which will automatically have you aiming. To shoot from above the cover you will need to crouch and then aim, its not perfect but its better than nothing. The knife can be cheap, but its not widely used, since its slow in terms of stun. Lvl up is really easy, it just depends on how much you use your skills.

i thought that was a tad annoying in the single player, but then i was using just stealth so i didnt really matter, but in the mgo it totally ruins the game. you have to unstick from the wall, tap x, aim, shoot, tap x again, and then finally press triangle again (if you dont your head will still be a little stuck out...and so many people can get miracle headshots from across the map).

Its not miracle headshots, they are really easy to do, in FPS mode specially.

maybe with a massive amount of patchwork this can be good. but konami probably wont do it.

:(

sad, it had a lot of potential

REforever101

Maybe you just suck at the game, I know its not THE online game, it has it flaws, but its imo really easy to play, I mean, Ive never had a higher kills rate than deaths.

[QUOTE="thrones"]It's not - terrible - but it certainly isn't the next SOCOM or GRAW in the realm of tactical shooters. I can see it's attraction though. They added in a new mode a few days ago, Team Sneaking is awesome :) Though it has some several real questionable design choices such as being region locked and the entire Konami ID thing.excelR83

What do you mean region-locked? The software? Usually it's the hardware that they lock, but my Japanese PS3/American software has no problem getting online and playing with my fellow Americans.

The SP mode per se is not region locked, the servers are. So an NTSC/J game cant be used in NTSC/UC or PAL territories and so on.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]It's not - terrible - but it certainly isn't the next SOCOM or GRAW in the realm of tactical shooters. I can see it's attraction though. They added in a new mode a few days ago, Team Sneaking is awesome :) Though it has some several real questionable design choices such as being region locked and the entire Konami ID thing.kenshinhimura16

What do you mean region-locked? The software? Usually it's the hardware that they lock, but my Japanese PS3/American software has no problem getting online and playing with my fellow Americans.

The SP mode per se is not region locked, the servers are. So an NTSC/J game cant be used in NTSC/UC or PAL territories and so on.

Ah yes. So they did it by software this time, which is great. Usually my Japanese PS3 has issues with my American software. I was locked into Japanese R:FOM servers at first even though my game was US and my ISP was located a bajillion miles from Japan. Software makes so much more sense.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

What do you mean region-locked? The software? Usually it's the hardware that they lock, but my Japanese PS3/American software has no problem getting online and playing with my fellow Americans.

Slashkice

The MGO servers are region-locked. Japanese can only play with Japanese, Americans with Americans, Europeans with Europeans, etc.

Not quite correct. As I said above, this just locks American software to American software, and so on. Japanese PS3 owners can use the US software and play with other Americans. I'm glad this is the case this time. Too many issues with my Japanese PS3/US software.

[QUOTE="kenshinhimura16"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]It's not - terrible - but it certainly isn't the next SOCOM or GRAW in the realm of tactical shooters. I can see it's attraction though. They added in a new mode a few days ago, Team Sneaking is awesome :) Though it has some several real questionable design choices such as being region locked and the entire Konami ID thing.excelR83

What do you mean region-locked? The software? Usually it's the hardware that they lock, but my Japanese PS3/American software has no problem getting online and playing with my fellow Americans.

The SP mode per se is not region locked, the servers are. So an NTSC/J game cant be used in NTSC/UC or PAL territories and so on.

Ah yes. So they did it by software this time, which is great. Usually my Japanese PS3 has issues with my American software. I was locked into Japanese R:FOM servers at first even though my game was US and my ISP was located a bajillion miles from Japan. Software makes so much more sense.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

What do you mean region-locked? The software? Usually it's the hardware that they lock, but my Japanese PS3/American software has no problem getting online and playing with my fellow Americans.

Slashkice

The MGO servers are region-locked. Japanese can only play with Japanese, Americans with Americans, Europeans with Europeans, etc.

Not quite correct. As I said above, this just locks American software to American software, and so on. Japanese PS3 owners can use the US software and play with other Americans. I'm glad this is the case this time. Too many issues with my Japanese PS3/US software.

NO, I typed it incorrectly. The game per se is not region locked, so a NTSC/J game can be played as all the others in any consoles. But the servers are, so if your game is PAL, you will have to play through a PAL account

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.REforever101

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

not true in the least

i usually always win, and i still hate it

What's your K/D ratio. What's your MGO name, I'll go check it on the community site, what's your rank in the game. How many hours have you put in it? I'll tell you if you're good or not. And you always winning could just mean you're on a good team.

[QUOTE="GoldenGlove"]

[QUOTE="PSYB0RG1"]The only people that say it sucks, sucks at the game.DragonFlyJ

I have to agree with this statement.

MGO isn't easy, and that's why I laugh at the noobs in here saying that it doesn't take skill to play this game. Then I think about the first MGO on MGS3 and how it didn't even have crosshairs and people were still getting headshots. :lol: Noobs wouldn't like that game at all.

If you suck at aiming then I feel sorry for you. Just switch up your gameplan. Use traps and knife. CQC or something, but don't whine about you using a whole clip on somebody when you can take em out with one shot to the dome. COD4 is way easier then this game. I got every gold gun in that game in no time. I always aim for the head no matter the game. Are you people aiming to kill or aiming to injure?

Like I said before, if it took 2 shots to kill people on this game, then Auto Aim would be what the game was all about it.

No, you shouldn't have to empty a clip to kill a guy. However, I do think it should be that way if you're using auto aim.

Only noobs take a whole clip to kill somebody on MGO. I play with single shot or a three round burst on this game, and I kill people with like 4 to 5 shots. Now if you don't trust me, put in the game, go to the Virtous Mission thing and put in like 4 or 5 shots in a dummy and see where his heath is. I think the problem is that you people are MISSING the target there for they get away, and you say, "This game sucks"... no your aim just sucks. Don't aim for their legs am high and you will kill people with out going through a whole clip.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

Just out of curiosity does anyone know of a really good online game that's J-dev'd?

Those guys are so far behind the curve that's it's tragic but there has to be some really good ones out that I haven't discovered yet right?

Dreams-Visions

Ace Combat

Chaos Theory?

Phantom Dust!

Why isn't there more love for Phantom Dust!

When you compare MGO to fantastice multiplayer games like Halo 3, Gears, and COD4, then yeah MGO is horrible as hell. Signing up is a hassle, once you start playing getting head shots take no skill at all, headsets doesn't work too good with most matches, unbalanced gameplay, hard to organized a game with your teammates, so yeah, I can understand how most will consider MGO as being awful.

It has it's flaws, but i love it!

It's a love-hate kind of game.

EDIT: It only takes an entire clip to kill someone if you aim for anything other than the head. You really can't play that way. You have to go for the headshots. Admittedly headshots come a bit too easy, but that's the best way to kill someone, and the only way to get good at the game.

Hahaha, I never even got past the registration because it wouldn't accept my name. I never gave it much thought after that, and it seems that was the best thing to do. I mean why can't you use your PSN ID in the first place, like most of the multiplayer games out there?SOedipus

Dont bother, I did the registration and played for a hr to give it a chance. It would be worth playing, if it was the only online game ever made, it dosent stack up well against the competion.

Love this game because its not a standard shooter.

A screen I took:)

Run, quick!

I hear MGS fanboys gathering their pitchforks as we speak!

x_SuperMario_x

no that mooing you hear is not a stampede of cows coming your way its a squad of those bipedal gekko robots.

Headshots: You know, it's not hard to aim for the head. There's no skill to do it in-game, the skill is within the player.

Full magazine to kill someone: Depending on where you aim and how you move. If you are moving, you'll get recoil. If you don't aim for the upper-body, and shoot at someone's legs, obviously, you won't die if only your legs are shot at. Why do people overlook these factors?

No health-regeneration: This is one of the worst features in online gaming. I'm glad there isn't a way to regenerate health. It's very unrealistic. In COD4, you're like "OH SNAP I GOT SHOT 3 TIMES IN THE CHEST! BETTER CAMP OUT FOR 10 SECONDS AND I'LL BE FINE!".

Magazine is stupid: Or you don't know how to use it. The Playboy is the best item I think. I can trap people with it, knife them in the back. It's stupid to those who have no patience or don't know where to put them, or those who get trapped in them.

Spawn Camping: Enemies don't spawn behind you, There is spawn-camping, but that's in every game. You can go to "Start", "Host", and "Kick" and select the camper. Usually, people will kick him in two seconds. Not so hard now is it?

Stealth is broken: If you don't know how to stay in shadows, when to move, when to use the box, which alleyways to take. Please, this game takes quite a bit of knowledge of the areas you're playing in, and how the game works.

Shock knife is cheap: No. Shoot a guy trying to knife you. Problem solved. If a guy shocks you from behind, it's your own damn fault.

You have to level skill to slit throats: Yes. Because they want the elite players to have the best features. It actually has a great reward system. Why is this a negative? Because you don't know how to kill people with knives?

Cover System sucks: I agree. Don't use it. Use your own system where you don't press triangle, but lean against the wall. Go to first person, press right or left on the d-pad.

Metal Gear Online is an amazing shooter. Quite unique, and takes skill to be good at it. There's tons of skill points you need to level, which takes hard work. You obviously show you don't know how to play this game. This is one of the few games where skill is a must to succeed. I love it. This isn't a fanboy comment, honestly, I just love it. It's brilliant. Although there needs to be small work done, it's a really really fun game imo. Some of your arguments though make no sense as you obviously haven't bothered at prefecting skill in the game.

Albanian_Killa

i agree,also most of the skill comes from taking it easy and not rushing things.it took me a while to get good at the game since it was a huge change of pace from games like COD 4, and RSV where i would come up in the top 3 sometimes 4.