I'm Sorry Halo 3 ODST is A RIPOFF!!!1

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#151 Vandalvideo
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Bungie knows their rabid fanbase would not like for some random tidbit to be thrown in just to appease them. They're not going to alter the story just to squeeze in the MC. I'm done replying to you seeing how you know absolutely NOTHING about this game yet you feel the need to bash it. It looks as if you put in your blog that your set to give up on gaming. Do us all a favor and give up here at SW as well seeing how you don't know what you're talking about. Nedemis
Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I'm not saying they WILL add something. I'm not saying they will PROBABLY add something. I'm saying that it could be the case that they do. You cannot difinitively prove that they won't until you have the game in your hands. Until that time, you are merely speculating. Thusly, you cannot prove to me that it won't be about masterchief at all. The fact of the matter is that it is premature to say it won't be about Master Chief. The point of my post was to point out an overarching problem in system wars. People like to talk in absolutes and think they know more about a game than they do. They say, "We know this won't be in the game" when in all actuality they don't. Just wait and find out until then. I'm not bashing this game, and you need to realize that. Calling a game an expansion pack doesn't mean I'm calling it bad. Its an expansion pack. That is just the fact of the matter. It could be the case that they add an easter egg. That is just a fact of the matter.
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#152 DontBeHatin1983
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OK we're going to pay 60$ for an expansion that comes with a beta to halo reach, 3 new maps, and the actual game itself or expansion.

According to developers the game's campaign is a little shorter than halo 3s, which by no means was long at all (unless you're a bk), and firefight is the only thing looking interesting in this game right now. the 3 maps and reach beta id say are probably worth 15 to 20$ max alone. But I'm trying to judge just halo 3 odst, not the add-ons. You're paying 60$ for an 8 hour campaign and firefight, the only way this game has value is if you didn't already have the original halo 3 so you could play the multiplayer.

Sorry halo fans this is a huge ripoff and I dont see it selling millions like halo 1,2, and 3, why? it's a freaking expansion and tons of people have moved on from halo 3, i actually think it was a bad move to include 3 into the title, and with so many other games calling this fall I'd see more kids picking up mwf2 than this ripoff sorry.

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see u point and i think it should have been around $40 like GT:P for the PS3 imagine if GT:P would cost $60

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#153 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"]

OK we're going to pay 60$ for an expansion that comes with a beta to halo reach, 3 new maps, and the actual game itself or expansion.

According to developers the game's campaign is a little shorter than halo 3s, which by no means was long at all (unless you're a bk), and firefight is the only thing looking interesting in this game right now. the 3 maps and reach beta id say are probably worth 15 to 20$ max alone. But I'm trying to judge just halo 3 odst, not the add-ons. You're paying 60$ for an 8 hour campaign and firefight, the only way this game has value is if you didn't already have the original halo 3 so you could play the multiplayer.

Sorry halo fans this is a huge ripoff and I dont see it selling millions like halo 1,2, and 3, why? it's a freaking expansion and tons of people have moved on from halo 3, i actually think it was a bad move to include 3 into the title, and with so many other games calling this fall I'd see more kids picking up mwf2 than this ripoff sorry.

DontBeHatin1983

see u point and i think it should have been around $40 like GT:P for the PS3 imagine if GT:P would cost $60

Prologue didn't have nearly as much content as ODST. Also, ODST won't be available in superior form. Prologue was basically a preview of GT5, which can be had with 10 times the content and far superior for $20 more.

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#154 Trmpt
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OK we're going to pay 60$ for an expansion that comes with a beta to halo reach, 3 new maps, and the actual game itself or expansion.

According to developers the game's campaign is a little shorter than halo 3s, which by no means was long at all (unless you're a bk), and firefight is the only thing looking interesting in this game right now. the 3 maps and reach beta id say are probably worth 15 to 20$ max alone. But I'm trying to judge just halo 3 odst, not the add-ons. You're paying 60$ for an 8 hour campaign and firefight, the only way this game has value is if you didn't already have the original halo 3 so you could play the multiplayer.

Sorry halo fans this is a huge ripoff and I dont see it selling millions like halo 1,2, and 3, why? it's a freaking expansion and tons of people have moved on from halo 3, i actually think it was a bad move to include 3 into the title, and with so many other games calling this fall I'd see more kids picking up mwf2 than this ripoff sorry.

Microsoft1234

Dude I almost forgot about that part, thanks for reminding me.

*goes to preorder ODST*

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#155 GiantMuffin
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ODST is a steal. The campaign is about as long as a Gears 1/2, KZ2, or R2. And for someone like me who just got into Halo 3 multiplayer, I get all the maps. Plus new co-op.

BioShockOwnz
Take a look at the Orange Box, then look at ODST and you'll know what a steal is. Microsoft is betting that people are going to overlook that it's an expansion, which many will like yourself, and will pay full price for a game with half the content as something like Half Life 2/Team Fortress 2 combination.
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#156 Couth_
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ODST is a bit of a rip. The thing making it worth it in my eyes is the DLC maps. But If I already had those I would be outraged
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#157 atm0073
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Your logic and reasoning is pretty flawed, TC. ODST is no more of a ripoff than any other game being released.
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#158 slvrraven9
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An entirely new campaign and Firefight sounds great to me, I really don't care. $60 is pocket change as far as I'm concerned, complaining about it is a waste of time.Floppy_Jim

this. u may not see the value in it. but im sure countless otheres do..

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#159 II-FBIsniper-II
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Yes it is. I'm getting the special edition for the controller so I'm gonna be saving $10 at least.
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#160 scorch-62
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We're paying $60 for two discs; which contain the 8-hour-long campaign, Firefight, "the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience" + 3 new maps, and a beta for Halo Reach.
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#161 slvrraven9
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Yes it is. I'm getting the special edition for the controller so I'm gonna be saving $10 at least.II-FBIsniper-II
how much is the special edition edition with the controller?
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#162 Trmpt
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We're paying $60 for two discs; which contain the 8-hour-long campaign, Firefight, "the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience" + 3 new maps, and a beta for Halo Reach.scorch-62

I'll be making it last a few hours more by playing it on heroic first. Is anyone else going to do this?

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#163 II-FBIsniper-II
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We're paying $60 for two discs; which contain the 8-hour-long campaign, Firefight, "the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience" + 3 new maps, and a beta for Halo Reach.scorch-62
Change the 8 to 5, "the complete" to "the same" and you got it.
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#164 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Yes it is. I'm getting the special edition for the controller so I'm gonna be saving $10 at least.slvrraven9
how much is the special edition edition with the controller?

$100
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#165 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]We're paying $60 for two discs; which contain the 8-hour-long campaign, Firefight, "the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience" + 3 new maps, and a beta for Halo Reach.II-FBIsniper-II
Change the 8 to 5, "the complete" to "the same" and you got it.

How do you know it is 5 and how is it not the complete Halo 3 MP experiance?
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#166 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]We're paying $60 for two discs; which contain the 8-hour-long campaign, Firefight, "the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience" + 3 new maps, and a beta for Halo Reach.SparkyProtocol
Change the 8 to 5, "the complete" to "the same" and you got it.

How do you know it is 5 and how is it not the complete Halo 3 MP experiance?

I know its five because that's how long it takes to beat Halo 3. :| And it's not the complete Halo 3 MP experience because that's what they are going to put on the back of the box to make it sound better than what is. It's the same exact thing you already have.
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#167 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] Change the 8 to 5, "the complete" to "the same" and you got it.II-FBIsniper-II
How do you know it is 5 and how is it not the complete Halo 3 MP experiance?

I know its five because that's how long it takes to beat Halo 3. :| And it's not the complete Halo 3 MP experience because that's what they are going to put on the back of the box to make it sound better than what is. It's the same exact thing you already have.

the exact same thing you all ready have unless you dont have it...? As well it ranges on how long it takes to beat halo 3 on legendary it took me 7 hours on launch night to beat it.
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#168 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] Change the 8 to 5, "the complete" to "the same" and you got it.II-FBIsniper-II
How do you know it is 5 and how is it not the complete Halo 3 MP experiance?

I know its five because that's how long it takes to beat Halo 3. :| And it's not the complete Halo 3 MP experience because that's what they are going to put on the back of the box to make it sound better than what is. It's the same exact thing you already have.

Try not playing it through on easy the first time, you'll enjoy it.
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"]We're paying $60 for two discs; which contain the 8-hour-long campaign, Firefight, "the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience" + 3 new maps, and a beta for Halo Reach.Trmpt

I'll be making it last a few hours more by playing it on heroic first. Is anyone else going to do this?

That doesn't sound like such a bad idea, but I doubt I'd have much time for that at first. I'd probably end up starting on Normal.
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#170 scorch-62
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I know its five because that's how long it takes to beat Halo 3. :| II-FBIsniper-II
You must be playing on easy. It takes at least 7 hours to beat it on Normal.

And it's not the complete Halo 3 MP experience because that's what they are going to put on the back of the box to make it sound better than what is. It's the same exact thing you already have.

The complete Halo 3 experience, while it is the exact same that we have, is a 100% accurate statement, though.
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#171 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Trmpt"]

We're paying $60 for two discs; which contain the 8-hour-long campaign, Firefight, "the complete Halo 3 multiplayer experience" + 3 new maps, and a beta for Halo Reach.scorch-62

I'll be making it last a few hours more by playing it on heroic first. Is anyone else going to do this?

That doesn't sound like such a bad idea, but I doubt I'd have much time for that at first. I'd probably end up starting on Normal.

Legendary Coop is the way to go! I got excited when Bungie said there are no threads holding you and your friends together in the city and that you can mark eachothers map of where you want them to go and you can ambush Covie patrol etc. I guess they have a system where someone cant randomly activate a flashback in coop.
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#172 II-FBIsniper-II
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You must be playing on easy. It takes at least 7 hours to beat it on Normal.scorch-62
It took me 7 hours on Heroic (first time through). There is no way it would be 7 hours on normal unless it was your first Halo game.
The complete Halo 3 experience, while it is the exact same that we have, is a 100% accurate statement, though.scorch-62
I'll give you that one.
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#174 scorch-62
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Legendary Coop is the way to go! I got excited when Bungie said there are no threads holding you and your friends together in the city and that you can mark eachothers map of where you want them to go and you can ambush Covie patrol etc. I guess they have a system where someone cant randomly activate a flashback in coop.SparkyProtocol
The one friend who helped me beat Halo 3 on Legendary hates me now, so I couldn't have him help me again. I don't have XBL, either, which makes it even more of a pain in the ass for me.

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#175 Chiddaling
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This thread is still alive? Or is the TC still losing?
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#176 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="Microsoft1234"][QUOTE="Ballroompirate"]

I have an xbox and i have halo 3, im just ranting cuz odst is overpriced. Microsoft1234

Umm theres alot of Single player only games that are over priced, beglad ODST has a SP and a MP.

can you idiots stop saying this has multiplayer? it has halo 3s multiplayer and we've already been over that....... if you don't have halo 3 than odst has value if not then its a ripoff.

Looks like you need to zip it because ODST has MP :|
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#177 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"][QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Yes it is. I'm getting the special edition for the controller so I'm gonna be saving $10 at least.II-FBIsniper-II
how much is the special edition edition with the controller?

$100

thanks bro! guess ill go ahead and reserve it now then while i still have a chance....\ i want that special controller too!
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#178 SamGv
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ODST is a spin off. I guess people can call it an expansion because it "expans" the story. But then you have to call every sequel in history of media an expansion which basically takes away the real reason for the name expansion.

Halo:ODST has an entire new campaign, improved A.I. enhanced graphics (From what I can see) it's an entirely different game. And IMO $59.99 is justifiable. I can think of many games that do not have a justifiable $59.99 price tag.

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#180 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="SamGv"]

I can think of many games that do not have a justifiable $59.99 price tag.

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As can I. Among them being Halo 3: ODST. The only people who are getting a deal out of this at all are those who don't own Halo 3 at all, and they still miss out on the original campaign unless they pay an extra $40. Those who already own Halo 3 are being ripped off (paying for the multiplayer twice), and those who already bought the map packs are being ripped off even more (paying for multiplayer AND the map packs twice).

If they did something like this instead, I don't think anyone would be complaining:

"Full" version for people completely new to Halo 3: $60 for Halo 3: ODST's campaign, Firefight, the original Halo 3 campaign, and Halo 3's multiplayer with all maps released to date.

"Expansion" version for current Halo 3 owners who didn't buy the map packs: $40 for Halo 3: ODST's campaign, Firefight, and an install disc containing all maps released to date.

"DLC" options for those who already bought the map packs: $20 for Halo 3: ODST's campaign and Firefight, $10 for the new map pack.

1.) How so? ODST is a completely different game and tells a story that hasnt been told yet and firefight is its own multiplayer mode. The extra DLC is just the wip topping.

2.) That would make Halo 3 comepletely pointless as it is its own game, so to combine it with ODST would be shooting themselves in the foot.

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#181 hy4k
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I dont think anyone is arguing that the game isn't interesting or a radical departure for the series, but it's still a standalone expansion pack same engine, same multiplayer mode, halo 3 prefix, short length. they even said it was an expansion pack originally and they're presenting halo reach as the next "real" halo game if crysis warhead is an expansion pack then halo odst sure as hell is
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#182 abuabed
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If you think that the game doesn't worth it then don't complain, heck if Monster Hunter was priced at $100 I'd definitely buy it!! To each his preference I suppose :P
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#183 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Yep a ripoff..... but I wonder what Heavenly sword and Uncharted were :|
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#184 NYrockinlegend
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Well, for those who missed halo 3, it's a bargain.;)
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#185 mitu123
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Since there are hardly any 360 exclusives this year, this game hardly feels like a rip off.:P

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#186 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]It'd be very much worth it, IMO, if it were around 40-45 dollars...Microsoft1234
I'd say 30$ and i would definitely consider this, but the only way ill pick this is up if it gets a great review, but idc about the maps because if you're actually good you realize they won't get into the mlg playlist for a while and the halo reach beta is somewhat interesting.

If I'm not mistaken, it doesnt just come with the three new maps. If you havent downloaded the Heroic, Legendary, or Mythic maps already, I was under the impression they also come with this game. If true, thats a $30 savings for those who dont own those map packs, and all three of them are already incorporated into the playlists.