I'm thinking this is about the time Sony has realized why Konami fired Kojima

It's been how long since he started this project? How many expensive actors has he hired? How many expensive cinematics has he created with nigh a glimpse of what exactly the game will be? Do you think Sony has already regretted hiring Kojima now that he's causing them to hemorrhage money on his untested, extremely expensive, new IP? The real question is: how will they find a nice way to dump him after they've lost all their PS4 profits on Death Stranding.

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According to Wikipedia (lol) the development started last year.

Death stranding is not even a game at this point. just cinematic teaser after teaser. even this year they wont show gameplay.

another star citizen in making.

Seeing that dumb picture he posted of himself drinking out of mug labeled Konami's Tears is all you need to know about whether or not it was a good decision.

I'm sure they were glad to be rid of him with that system war level trolling. That pre-teen lvl shit should be far above your multi-million dollar project lead man.

Nah, I'm actually having a fantastic day. I recently beat MGSurvive and it got me thinking about Kojima and what a mess he must be causing over at Sony.

Come on, I'm sure you are right to a degree but it really hasn't been THAT long. New IPs take longer to develop too, they have too create new assets, and considering it's supposed too be an online game I imagine there's a lot more work too go into it. Probably why Cyberpunk 2077 has taken so long too. And Anthem, you have to realize that's probably been in the works long before they announced it. Death Stranding's problem is they simply announces it way too early.

Funny thing is, I love Kojima, but you've gotta be nuts to hand over a blank check to megalomaniacal artists who think other people's money is just their plaything.

Another movie "game" will fit right in with Sony's portfolio.

This is why new IP's are such a risk and why we see so few of them around anymore. I think Horizon Zero Dawn has to be one of the few brand new AAA IP's we've seen this gen. This is also why scalebound was canceled. Artists wasting people's money is not funny or cute.

Well considering he's saved them a few million by using an existing game engine he has the budget.

Konami will probaly never have another decent game under them again.

Honestly MGS5 was trash, Konami could see it. What they did not see was how for some reason critics would give the game a 10/10, which was bizzare.

Sony will soon realize the same thing, but don't fire Kojima or else critics once again will give Death Stranding a 10/10 and then score Death Stranding: Survive a 4/10.

And considering the butt hurt he's causing in this thread he was a good investment.

What, the game isn't finished after an year in development? We all know 6 months should be more than enough!

I laughed.

Thanks.

MGSurvive is more than decent. I mean that would require actually playing it and making up one's own mind about it but yeah...there's a decent game. Hell, it's got an endgame that would make destiny two players envious but alas...critics killed it before anyone had the chance to find out.

Who cares?

@Bread_or_Decide: Nah. The name will print money for Sony no matter how this game turns out. I have faith there will be some great play from kojima.

@Bread_or_Decide: is it littered with microtransactons or no?

? You bought Metal Gear Survive?

Nah, I’m sure Death Stranding will print a lot of money for them. The Kojima name still carries a lot of weight and respect, and Sony has a long history of partnering blockbusters and system sellers with Kojima. Death Stranding will sell a ton of PS4s and probably PS5s for them.

Wonder if Sony will mix it up a bit or will it just be another pretty story heavy 3rd person character action game with lots of content (cut scenes)?

@Bread_or_Decide: I agree, people write off games as terrible that they've never played. I don't know whether i like Survive or not but I'm just not interested in trying it. That's the difference though. Not caring to play it personally doesn't mean it sucks.

Nothing wrong with 3rd person action games, a lot of people love them. Why would Sony want to change the genre of their games so that it pleases you? You’re just one customer out of the millions that already love what Sony is doing.

He just started rhe game last year. I’m confused why you think it would be done already

Yeah, Survive may be my favorite Metal Gear Spin-off. Mostly because much like portable ops it plays closer to the actual game. Although Acid and Revengeance were interesting in their own ways.

I can see all this grandstanding for Kojima turn into absolute flakiness if the game is too weird or doesn't take off with the twitch and youtube crowd.

Then why are they releasing trailers to a barely finished game? I'm not saying it's done but he's certainly not even close and Sony must be watching those pennies fly out the window.

I wonder if he would be so reckless if he was forced to pay for the game with his own money. Sony should have simply published the game, not pay for its development.

Not only Kojima is paying top dollars for Norman Reedu, he also needs to hire Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Van Damme and Steven Seagal to make it even more awesome man!!!!

All jest aside, I'm still not gonna be interested in Kojima's game until I see some Death Standing gameplay. As of now, the more I see, the more confused I get. This is Kojima's first work game on a Sony's platform exclusive and this is a test run to see how things go. The execution is the most important thing for Death Stranding.

Survive? The game has them. You can play the game just fine without them. The gameplay doesn't bottleneck you, forcing you to pay to win. You can't buy resources. You're forced to survive and it's brutal and doesn't hold your hand. Something I thought gamers liked...oh well.

Got you in here didn't I? Now DISCUSS!!

You know nothing of the money involved.

https://wccftech.com/kojima-not-wasting-death-stranding/

@quadknight: Nah, I’m sure Death Stranding will print a lot of money for them. The Kojima name still carries a lot of weight and respect, and Sony has a long history of partnering blockbusters and system sellers with Kojima. Death Stranding will sell a ton of PS4s and probably PS5s for them"

My feelings, exactly. It will be a money maker and i have faith it will be cool.

It hasn't even been that long. Talk about an overreaction, lol.

News report: Games take time.

It hasn't even been in development for 2 years.

What a joke of a thread lol.

Sony hired Kojima?

I think the gameplay of MGS5 was pretty fun. You could approach a mission anyway that you thought. However, the story for a MGS game wasn't the greatest.

He's got a huge market even if he wastes money. Sony obviously see the potential for profits with his name attached otherwise Kojima wouldn't be hired. If it fails then Sony write it off as a chance that never happened.

With the budget this guy is going to rack up this game will need to do big sales, Like Last of Us/ Uncharted sales combined.

I don't root for games to fail, but it's going to be hard to break even, and with no Multi player, used market sales will be huge ie no $ for Sony.

I wish them both luck, but eventually Sony will regret it.

It takes a really long time to create a new IP.

• Horizon was began development in 2011, and released in 2017
• The Last of Us began development in 2009, and released in 2013

Death Stranding has probably only been in development for like 3 years ....

They must be making a game that they want you to play for years and years. This is risky though because if the user base isn't retained...

@Nonstop-Madness: It hasn't been in development for anywhere close to three years.

Can someone remind me what epic games MS has in development right now? Oh that’s right, our lord and saviour Phil Spencer only as of last e3 decided to dedicate some money to new IPs. TLHBO

So much salt from a person who bought MG survive. Thread=LOL

We have to all agree that Kojima mismanaged MGS V. He should have removed one of the maps and focused on making a better open world, but he focused on quantity over quality.(That episode 51 was going to be a DLC or 3rd part of the game)

I have played Survive for 60-70 hours and imo it's a 7.5-8 from 10 game. But even as a low budget game it had a much better open world than PP.

I have no hope for Death Stranding because it's going to be his next open world and he still believes(And all people around him want him to beilieve) that Phantom Pain is one of the best open world games of all time.(Which it isn't) It will probably turns out as another empty world game.

Can't wait for this imminent 10 and the haters' tears that ensue.

@Shewgenja: it’s hardly imminent. I’d be surprised if we see it this decade.

@boycie: I'd be surprised if it's not out by November ;)