IMO, Halo 2 is THE worst game to ever get AAA

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#1 ChrisSpartan117
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OK, I'll admit, I love Halo(just look at the damn username), and Halo 1 was one of the best launch titles ever(though THE best has to go to Super Mario World), although I admit there were flaws in it like repetitive level and enemy design and there was really no reason to let go of the default Machine Gun/Pistol combo save for a shotgun...

And then I get my hands on Halo 2.

So I'm going through the opening level, experiencing the biggest WTF moment in the form

[spoiler] of seeing a naked Elite [/spoiler]

and after the first three levels, I think, oh, this is a noticable improvment over Halo 1. The gunplay feels tighter and the graphics are obviously improved big time.

And then came the Arbiter levels.

OK, I think the Arbiter himself is a great character...

....BUT HIS LEVELS, STARTING WHEN YOU CONTROL HIM THE SECOND TIME, ARE ACTUALLY WORSE THAN THE LIBRARY LEVEL IN HALO 1.

Seriously, did anyone actually enjoy going through those levels? Anyone?

And then the whole game just collopases in the second half, where the levels just get boring, and more boring, and the game pretty much forces you to stay with the shotgun the whole time.

Really, how the hell did this get scores near Half-Life 2? Really? I am one of the biggest console fanboys ever, and Half-Life 2 is head and shoulders better than Halo 2 in every single way, excluding the soundtrack. I'm dead serious when I think this may deserve high A or low AA, it's really obvious MicroSoft forced Bungie to rush the game, because, for example, the game was supposed to have three more levels after the "final" level.

I'm sorry, but I just had to let that out of my system.

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#2 Killzowner
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Halo 3 is also overrated.
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#3 SpinoRaptor24
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Agreed, Halo 2 had the worst campaign of the trilogy (even though I thought it had a good story) Multiplayer more than made up for it though.
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#4 ChrisSpartan117
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Halo 3 is also overrated.Killzowner
I really hate to say I can't comment on Halo 3, even though I want to "finish the fight" for the sake of "finishing the fight", my fiancial situations kept me from playing the game.
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[QUOTE="Killzowner"]Halo 3 is also overrated.ChrisSpartan117
I really hate to say I can't comment on Halo 3, even though I want to "finish the fight" for the sake of "finishing the fight", my fiancial situations kept me from playing the game.

dont even bother, save your money and buy yourself some spare condoms.
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#6 bizkit_limp
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Actually I enjoyed Halo 2 more then Halo 3.

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#7 navyguy21
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Halo 3 is also overrated.Killzowner
Like you would say any different lol. On topic, i liked the first half of Halo 2, then it seems like i was playing another, crappier game for the second half
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#8 mitu123
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Nah, it's Wario Ware: Smooth Moves to me, Halo 2 was pretty good.

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#9 nhh18
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I thoguth halo 2 was an awesome awesome game much better than halo 3 in terms of multiplayer. The worst AAA game is perfect dark zero by a significant margin.

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Really, how the hell did this get scores near Half-Life 2? Really? I am one of the biggest console fanboys ever, and Half-Life 2 is head and shoulders better than Halo 2 in every single way, excluding the soundtrack. I'm dead serious when I think this may deserve high A or low AA, it's really obvious MicroSoft forced Bungie to rush the game, because, for example, the game was supposed to have three more levels after the "final" level.

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Fun fact: Halo 2 got 7.0 on PC, and PC has higher standards

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#11 metroidfood
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People actually play the campaign in Halo?

I've owned the original on PC for a year or two, and I've still not been able to force myself through the awful campaign.

I will admit I had fun playing the final two levels on Halo 3 co-op with a friend, but I still don't care much for the single player.

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#12 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

Really, how the hell did this get scores near Half-Life 2? Really? I am one of the biggest console fanboys ever, and Half-Life 2 is head and shoulders better than Halo 2 in every single way, excluding the soundtrack. I'm dead serious when I think this may deserve high A or low AA, it's really obvious MicroSoft forced Bungie to rush the game, because, for example, the game was supposed to have three more levels after the "final" level.

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Fun fact: Halo 2 got 7.0 on PC, and PC has higher standards

Just so you know, I was referring to the 360 Orange Box of Half-Life 2, but I don't blame you for saying that.
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#13 jpKNOCKOUT
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I don't k now about you guys, but i loved halo 2's campaign. Sure the ending was a little.. eh, but it was good fun.

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#14 BioShockOwnz
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Meh, some people love it, while some other people hate it. Just like every other game in existence. It's only an opinion.

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#15 spinecaton
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Halo 2 got what it deserved, sure it had some single player campaign levels that were lackluster but you can something negative about any game really. Just look in the bad section of the review here

* Disappointing story
* Short campaign
* Some unsightly graphical issues
* No co-op online.

They know there were problems with the campaign but many other things made up for it.

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#16 spinecaton
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I thoguth halo 2 was an awesome awesome game much better than halo 3 in terms of multiplayer. The worst AAA game is perfect dark zero by a significant margin.

nhh18

You never played WarioWares Smooth Move, a game with about 2-3 hours worth of campaign that you do not want to go back through again once you finish. Just glad I didn't pay anything to even play it because I was done with it in an afternoon.

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#17 Brownesque
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Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

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#18 nhh18
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Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

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What? i SAW BURN OUT paradise listed. I officialyl hate you :(.

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People actually play the campaign in Halo?

I've owned the original on PC for a year or two, and I've still not been able to force myself through the awful campaign.

I will admit I had fun playing the final two levels on Halo 3 co-op with a friend, but I still don't care much for the single player.

metroidfood

Your avatar comes from a game which deserves mention in a thread like this.

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#20 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

I thoguth halo 2 was an awesome awesome game much better than halo 3 in terms of multiplayer. The worst AAA game is perfect dark zero by a significant margin.

spinecaton

You never played WarioWares Smooth Move, a game with about 2-3 hours worth of campaign that you do not want to go back through again once you finish. Just glad I didn't pay anything to even play it because I was done with it in an afternoon.

It was actually alot of fun though. It was a 2 hour game though. Perfect dark zero has no redeeming qualities. It is like the real deal in terrible AAA game that has no right being AAA.

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#21 eo_the_shaman
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ill agree halo 2 made me hate halo in general

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#22 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

I thoguth halo 2 was an awesome awesome game much better than halo 3 in terms of multiplayer. The worst AAA game is perfect dark zero by a significant margin.

nhh18

You never played WarioWares Smooth Move, a game with about 2-3 hours worth of campaign that you do not want to go back through again once you finish. Just glad I didn't pay anything to even play it because I was done with it in an afternoon.

It was actually alot of fun though. It was a 2 hour game though. Perfect dark zero has no redeeming qualities. It is like the real deal in terrible AAA game that has no right being AAA.

Perfect Dark Zero's rooftop stage on co-op is one of my favorite levels this gen to tell you the truth, so no I would not agree with your statement.

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[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]

I thoguth halo 2 was an awesome awesome game much better than halo 3 in terms of multiplayer. The worst AAA game is perfect dark zero by a significant margin.

nhh18

You never played WarioWares Smooth Move, a game with about 2-3 hours worth of campaign that you do not want to go back through again once you finish. Just glad I didn't pay anything to even play it because I was done with it in an afternoon.

It was actually alot of fun though. It was a 2 hour game though. Perfect dark zero has no redeeming qualities. It is like the real deal in terrible AAA game that has no right being AAA.

Some of the minigames weren't that great in WarioWare, and multiplayer was decent in Perfect Dark Zero, though both games shouldn't got AAAEs, what's funny is that those are both the 1st games I got for 360 and Wii, LOL.
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Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Brownesque
You picked one of the best driving games ever released on the list? Really? It was awesome even if you didn't get the incredible free DLC.
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I thoguth halo 2 was an awesome awesome game much better than halo 3 in terms of multiplayer. The worst AAA game is perfect dark zero by a significant margin.

nhh18
PDZ was a AAA? holy moley! im playing through the game and though its good THIS is a game id probably give a High A or low AA
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#26 glez13
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Wasn't Perfect Dark Zero the king in this department?

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#27 spinecaton
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

You never played WarioWares Smooth Move, a game with about 2-3 hours worth of campaign that you do not want to go back through again once you finish. Just glad I didn't pay anything to even play it because I was done with it in an afternoon.

mitu123

It was actually alot of fun though. It was a 2 hour game though. Perfect dark zero has no redeeming qualities. It is like the real deal in terrible AAA game that has no right being AAA.

Some of the minigames weren't that great in WarioWare, and multiplayer was decent in Perfect Dark Zero, though both games shouldn't got AAAEs, what's funny is that those are both the 1st games I got for 360 and Wii, LOL.

The AAA status should have been given to Kameo or PGR3, both deserved it more then PDZ even if I did like it.

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#28 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

You never played WarioWares Smooth Move, a game with about 2-3 hours worth of campaign that you do not want to go back through again once you finish. Just glad I didn't pay anything to even play it because I was done with it in an afternoon.

mitu123

It was actually alot of fun though. It was a 2 hour game though. Perfect dark zero has no redeeming qualities. It is like the real deal in terrible AAA game that has no right being AAA.

Some of the minigames weren't that great in WarioWare, and multiplayer was decent in Perfect Dark Zero, though both games shouldn't got AAAEs, what's funny is that those are both the 1st games I got for 360 and Wii, LOL.

Really? I bought wii for zelda tp and enjoyed it throughly. And xbox 360 call of duty 2 is significantly better than perfect dark zero in every way imaginable.

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#29 mitu123
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Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Brownesque
I never played Assassins Creed, is it really not worth the AAA?
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Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Brownesque
out of those? PDZ
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#31 nhh18
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="nhh18"]It was actually alot of fun though. It was a 2 hour game though. Perfect dark zero has no redeeming qualities. It is like the real deal in terrible AAA game that has no right being AAA.

spinecaton

Some of the minigames weren't that great in WarioWare, and multiplayer was decent in Perfect Dark Zero, though both games shouldn't got AAAEs, what's funny is that those are both the 1st games I got for 360 and Wii, LOL.

The AAA status should have been given to Kameo or PGR3, both deserved it more then PDZ even if I did like it.

Kameo is so good. I would have given AAA to kameo, and cod 2.

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[QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

mitu123
I never played Assassins Creed, is it really not worth the AAA?

some people loved it. others hated it. i myself liked it. the gameplay is great, nice story, but it was a little repetitive. thats what killed it for most.
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#33 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="nhh18"]It was actually alot of fun though. It was a 2 hour game though. Perfect dark zero has no redeeming qualities. It is like the real deal in terrible AAA game that has no right being AAA.

nhh18

Some of the minigames weren't that great in WarioWare, and multiplayer was decent in Perfect Dark Zero, though both games shouldn't got AAAEs, what's funny is that those are both the 1st games I got for 360 and Wii, LOL.

Really? I bought wii for zelda tp and enjoyed it throughly. And xbox 360 call of duty 2 is significantly better than perfect dark zero in every way imaginable.

Yeah, I know COD2 is better, I played it afterwards, and I didn't get a Wii until 2007, I enjoyed TP more than Wario Ware though they aren't comparable.
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#34 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

SilverChimera
I never played Assassins Creed, is it really not worth the AAA?

some people loved it. others hated it. i myself liked it. the gameplay is great, nice story, but it was a little repetitive. thats what killed it for most.

I still need to try it, I can max it out on my PC of course.
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#35 II-FBIsniper-II
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Hmm, I want to know what the best AAA game is because I spent over 3 years exclusively playing Halo 2.
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Hmm, I want to know what the best AAA game is because I spent over 3 years exclusively playing Halo 2.II-FBIsniper-II
I found Half-Life 2 and Bioshock to be great games.

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#37 DonPerian
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I think there are a lot of games that have received 9.0+ on Gamespot that don't deserve it moreso than Halo 2. Perfect Dark Zero and Killzone 2, to name a few.
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#38 NBSRDan
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The campaign is not one of Halo 2's strong points. The multiplayer makes up for it though. You must not have played Assassin's Creed if you think Halo 2 is less deserving of a 81+ out of 91 score.
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#39 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Hmm, I want to know what the best AAA game is because I spent over 3 years exclusively playing Halo 2.ChrisSpartan117

I found Half-Life 2 and Bioshock to be great games.

Both of those have their "arbiter" levels. Driving sections in HL2 and...the whole second half of Bioshock. Neither have multiplayer.
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#40 Yandere
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I wouldn't say WORST, but I wouldn't say best.

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#41 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Hmm, I want to know what the best AAA game is because I spent over 3 years exclusively playing Halo 2.II-FBIsniper-II

I found Half-Life 2 and Bioshock to be great games.

Both of those have their "arbiter" levels. Driving sections in HL2 and...the whole second half of Bioshock. Neither have multiplayer.

I actually didn't find the driving sections bad, well, expect for Water Hazard. And although I see where you're coming from with Bioshock, but at least the second half was at least entertaining, it just didn't have as much polish as the first half.
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I feel as though I am in the minority when I say Halo 2 offered the best campaign -- I had an absolutely blast playing through the campaign, and the multiplayer? Phenomenal. I've put over a thousand plus hours into Halo 2's online.
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#43 Brownesque
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Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

mitu123
I never played Assassins Creed, is it really not worth the AAA?

I didn't pay a single dime and played the game all the way to the end, still wish I could erase every minute of it from my memory and get the time I spent back. It's like 13 bucks used at Gamestop. It's not worth it. Seriously.
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#44 ThePistolGod
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I stopped playing with the Arbiter. It's almost like they wanted people to care less about the Elites/Arbiter and wanted to put a bigger emphasis on Master Chief.

There are worse games to get AAA though. PDZ and WarioWare come to mind first.

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[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"]Hmm, I want to know what the best AAA game is because I spent over 3 years exclusively playing Halo 2.II-FBIsniper-II

I found Half-Life 2 and Bioshock to be great games.

Neither have multiplayer.

Then what the hell is this "Half-Life 2: Deathmatch" thingy I see on my Steam games list?

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#46 mijkil
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Another day, another lame HALO bashing thread.. :roll:...

None of which is going to change the fact that the HALO series is one of the best reviewed, most popular and most lucrative franchises in the history of video games.

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#47 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Brownesque"]

Worst ever?

LoL, take your pick, system wars: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/perfectdarkzero/index.html?tag=result;title;0

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/index.html?tag=result;title;3

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/burnout5/index.html?tag=result;title;2

Brownesque
I never played Assassins Creed, is it really not worth the AAA?

I didn't pay a single dime and played the game all the way to the end, still wish I could erase every minute of it from my memory and get the time I spent back. It's like 13 bucks used at Gamestop. It's not worth it. Seriously.

Wow, that sounds terrible, maybe it was a good idea for me not to play it.
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#48 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Then what the hell is this "Half-Life 2: Deathmatch" thingy I see on my Steam games list?

swazidoughman

Half-Life 2 originally did not ship with multiplayer.

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#49 Threebabycows
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[QUOTE="ChrisSpartan117"]

Really, how the hell did this get scores near Half-Life 2? Really? I am one of the biggest console fanboys ever, and Half-Life 2 is head and shoulders better than Halo 2 in every single way, excluding the soundtrack. I'm dead serious when I think this may deserve high A or low AA, it's really obvious MicroSoft forced Bungie to rush the game, because, for example, the game was supposed to have three more levels after the "final" level.

swazidoughman

Fun fact: Halo 2 got 7.0 on PC, and PC has higher standards

Fun fact: halo 2 came YEARS after

Another fun fact: Years after H1 came on the XBOX it still AAA'd on PC.

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#50 mitu123
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There are worse games to get AAA though. PDZ and WarioWare come to mind first.

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Thank you, couldn't say it better myself, though I like those games.