In its history, Gamespot has never overrated a game as much as MGS4.

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#1 drinkoasis
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MGS4 didn't even deserve AAA. At best, it was a gimped third person shooter with tacked on stealth elements and horrible multiplayer which no-one even cared about after 10 minutes. They actually tried to westernize it and the series suffered because of it. The storyline was as needlessly convoluted as in past installments, as well as overly pretentious.

Can anyone seriously name a game that was nearly as overrated? Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 at least set a new standard for its genre, MGS4 pales in comparison to other TPS, and isn't even at the front of the stealth scene anymore. This gen, the mediocre party game Super Smash Bros Brawl and disappointing Halo 3 are the only candidates that come within a mile of being as overrated, and still can't match how badly overrated MGS4 was.

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Oh this is going to be fun...
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#3 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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GTa4 /thread
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#4 Lewisite
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Cry more :( MGS4 GOTY!!!!
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#5 XTy
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Yes, We get it. YOu hate GS's 2008 GOTY.

I can't wait to see what you hate about 2009's GOTY. It happens, GS has opinions, you have opinions, we get it. I would love to discuss this, but this is the millionth thread about GOTY 2008.

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#6 Chutebox
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I agree, MGS4 is remarkable in every way possible.
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Oh this is going to be fun...Aljosa23

*Pours soda and puts popcorn in microwave*

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#8 organic_machine
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THPS3 anyone?
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#9 IIJuggaNottII
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Okay....you guys should have until January the 1st with this complaining. When that day comes.....cut it out. Get over it. It was a great game, and an OKAY movie. It was a bargain....where else can you get a game and a movie for that price. Why would you complain about getting MORE than usual.

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#10 Floppy_Jim
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That's a shame that you don't like it. I and many others think it is awesome.

It's widely agreed to be a great game, sorry.

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#11 finalfantasy94
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MGS4 didn't even deserve AAA. At best, it was a gimped third person shooter with tacked on stealth elements and horrible multiplayer which no-one even cared about after 10 minutes. They actually tried to westernize it and the series suffered because of it. The storyline was as needlessly convoluted as in past installments, as well as overly pretentious.

Can anyone seriously name a game that was nearly as overrated? Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 at least set a new standard for its genre, MGS4 pales in comparison to other TPS, and isn't even at the front of the stealth scene anymore. This gen, the mediocre party game Super Smash Bros Brawl and disappointing Halo 3 are the only candidates that come within a mile of being as overrated, and still can't match how badly overrated MGS4 was.

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Gears.

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#12 XTy
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That's a shame that you don't like it. I and many others think it is awesome.

It's widely agreed to be a great game, sorry.

Floppy_Jim

I aGree.OTher than pointless Yakking to the contrary, we need to acknowledge Gamespot's 2008 award. I aSsume that's what you meant. My Gracious yet Subtle Friend. This is 4 U! :)

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That's a shame that you don't like it. I and many others think it is awesome.

It's widely agreed to be a great game, sorry.

Floppy_Jim

Congratulations are in order, sir.............

You earned it!!

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#14 EuroMafia
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Who cares, let it be.
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

That's a shame that you don't like it. I and many others think it is awesome.

It's widely agreed to be a great game, sorry.

XTy

I agree.

That was fail.
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PD0/thread
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#16 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

That's a shame that you don't like it. I and many others think it is awesome.

It's widely agreed to be a great game, sorry.

bez2083

Congratulations are in order, sir.............

You earned it!!

Haha, thank you!:)

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#17 ocdchild
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Personally I don't see how complaining about MGS4 being the GOTY is helpful, concidering the voting is over with and the winner has been chosen.

Deal with it, I guess? You voted, put in your two cents, and now you gotta let it go.

Because it's gets old with everyone all "OMFG MGS4 GAME OF THA YEER? OMG NOOOO GTA *or whatever other game* IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER OMFG11 etc etc.."

:roll:

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#18 XTy
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Who cares, let it be. [QUOTE="XTy"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

That's a shame that you don't like it. I and many others think it is awesome.

It's widely agreed to be a great game, sorry.

EuroMafia

I agre, I am reserving this spot for a good rebuttal.

That was fail.

No, Placeholding FTW. Edit is proof

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#19 EmperorSupreme
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Top notch graphics, sound, story and gameplay. How is MGS4 overrated? MGS4 delivers pretty much everything you expect from a highly rated game.
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#20 II_Seraphim_II
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Ok, now I wish a PC game had won GOTY. If a Wii game had won it, cows and lemmings would have whined and complained that Wii is crap and sheep would go on about 2 GOTYs in a row. If an X360 game had won, cows would call GS biased and lemmings would say shut up and only GS counts here and tell cows that GS isnt biased...basically the reserve of whats happening now. But with PC, it seems generally accepted that if you can afford it, its one of the best ways (if not the best way) to game and while some die hard console gamers would complain the majority would just say "what? oh man...oh well" and move on. :(
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#21 DontBeHatin1983
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gta 4 is overrated but mgs4 still the best game i played this year
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#23 drinkoasis
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GTa4 /threadGh0st_Of_0nyx
It was overrated, but it is definitely an AAA quality game. I wouldn't have given MGS4 above an 8.5, and even that is generous.
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#24 Toriko42
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MGS4 was great if you loved MGS but I'd argue it was the weakest MGS overall hence why it's not my GOTY.
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#25 drinkoasis
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[QUOTE="drinkoasis"]

MGS4 didn't even deserve AAA. At best, it was a gimped third person shooter with tacked on stealth elements and horrible multiplayer which no-one even cared about after 10 minutes. They actually tried to westernize it and the series suffered because of it. The storyline was as needlessly convoluted as in past installments, as well as overly pretentious.

Can anyone seriously name a game that was nearly as overrated? Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 at least set a new standard for its genre, MGS4 pales in comparison to other TPS, and isn't even at the front of the stealth scene anymore. This gen, the mediocre party game Super Smash Bros Brawl and disappointing Halo 3 are the only candidates that come within a mile of being as overrated, and still can't match how badly overrated MGS4 was.

finalfantasy94

Gears.

I agree, I'm not sure Gears even deserves AAA, but it's not nearly as overrated as MGS4. Its gameplay blows MGS4's out of the water.
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#26 alexmurray
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I feel sorry for you mate, but it is overated, good game though
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#27 drinkoasis
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Ok, now I wish a PC game had won GOTY. If a Wii game had won it, cows and lemmings would have whined and complained that Wii is crap and sheep would go on about 2 GOTYs in a row. If an X360 game had won, cows would call GS biased and lemmings would say shut up and only GS counts here and tell cows that GS isnt biased...basically the reserve of whats happening now. But with PC, it seems generally accepted that if you can afford it, its one of the best ways (if not the best way) to game and while some die hard console gamers would complain the majority would just say "what? oh man...oh well" and move on. :(II_Seraphim_II
Game of the Year was on PC. Sins of a Solar Empire was easily the best game released this year.
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#28 XTy
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MGS4 was great if you loved MGS but I'd argue it was the weakest MGS overall hence why it's not my GOTY. Toriko42

Coming from a poster that doesn't own a PS3, you aren't really surprising anyone.

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#29 angelkimne
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Who else here thinks the mods should make a sticky containing the definition of 'Opinion'?
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#30 DanteSuikoden
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Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 anyone?
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#31 789shadow
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Actually,I think Gears 1 takes this particular prize,followed closely by Gears 2.
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#32 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]MGS4 was great if you loved MGS but I'd argue it was the weakest MGS overall hence why it's not my GOTY. XTy

Coming from a poster that doesn't own a PS3, you aren't really surprising anyone.

You're right, I don't own a PS3 but I did play it at my neighbour's house. We often trade consoles for a weekend or something. I gave mine to him for Halo 3 when he wanted to finish it and I borrowed his for MGS4 to beat it since I've played every MGS game since MGS1. Thanks for the assumption though, is that twice in one day?
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Agree completely. MGS4 didn't deserve a 10.
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MGS4 didn't even deserve AAA. At best, it was a gimped third person shooter with tacked on stealth elements and horrible multiplayer which no-one even cared about after 10 minutes. They actually tried to westernize it and the series suffered because of it. The storyline was as needlessly convoluted as in past installments, as well as overly pretentious.

Can anyone seriously name a game that was nearly as overrated? Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 at least set a new standard for its genre, MGS4 pales in comparison to other TPS, and isn't even at the front of the stealth scene anymore. This gen, the mediocre party game Super Smash Bros Brawl and disappointing Halo 3 are the only candidates that come within a mile of being as overrated, and still can't match how badly overrated MGS4 was.

drinkoasis
in the history of art. no master work has ever been loved absolutely or hated absolutely by everyone. One must live with the fact that like all art forms, it is up to human interpretation. Your loathing for MGS4 only represents you and those similar to you. While Gamespots love for MGS4 only represents them and those similar to them. No critic is art in any form is absolute, EVER. Learn to live with your opinions as well as the opinions of others. That is how you can truly appreciate art in general. I myself loved MGS4 and loathed Fallout 3, but I know that my opinions only represent me and no one else. As well I loved "Crash" and loathed "The Dark Knight", I know for a fact that many people loathed "Crash" and loved "The Dark Knight", I've learned to grow up and live with the opinions of others while still maintaining the validity of my own.
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#35 WilliamRLBaker
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tony hawks pro skater didn't deserve 10 neither did GTA4.
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#36 Shinobishyguy
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Ok, now I wish a PC game had won GOTY. If a Wii game had won it, cows and lemmings would have whined and complained that Wii is crap and sheep would go on about 2 GOTYs in a row. If an X360 game had won, cows would call GS biased and lemmings would say shut up and only GS counts here and tell cows that GS isnt biased...basically the reserve of whats happening now. But with PC, it seems generally accepted that if you can afford it, its one of the best ways (if not the best way) to game and while some die hard console gamers would complain the majority would just say "what? oh man...oh well" and move on. :(II_Seraphim_II
The way I see it all three consoles have a GOTY 360: GeOW wii; Super Mario Galaxy ps3; MGS4... ...so yeah. Temporary truse anyone?
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#37 dual_boot
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People need to get over it already. Who cares if it won or not, just if you liked it.
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#38 XTy
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[QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]MGS4 was great if you loved MGS but I'd argue it was the weakest MGS overall hence why it's not my GOTY. Toriko42

Coming from a poster that doesn't own a PS3, you aren't really surprising anyone.

You're right, I don't own a PS3 but I did play it at my neighbour's house. We often trade consoles for a weekend or something. I gave mine to him for Halo 3 when he wanted to finish it and I borrowed his for MGS4 to beat it since I've played every MGS game since MGS1. Thanks for the assumption though, is that twice in one day?

Both assumptions were right, so yeah, you're welcome. I knew you didn't have a PS3 and I was right.,

therefore your opinion of MGS4 is that of a mere borrower/renter.

You have no stake as an owner. Furthermore, I was right about Blu too.

Lastly, good luck trying to get ANY gamerscore on MEGAMAN 9, with the 360's Dpad, lol. I am going to go for another assumption thinking you have 100 or less in Megaman 9 for 360. Just assuming, you can try and own me, I am good at this Psychic stuff.

You may have borrowed MGS4, but did you mess with all the DL content? Did you play it on hard? Did you unlock invisibility? Did you listen to the Ipod MGS4 podcasts? Or did you not have enough time, because you borrowed it? Same goes for his opinion on GeoW2, as it's not a full fledged opinion.

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Ok, now I wish a PC game had won GOTY. If a Wii game had won it, cows and lemmings would have whined and complained that Wii is crap and sheep would go on about 2 GOTYs in a row. If an X360 game had won, cows would call GS biased and lemmings would say shut up and only GS counts here and tell cows that GS isnt biased...basically the reserve of whats happening now. But with PC, it seems generally accepted that if you can afford it, its one of the best ways (if not the best way) to game and while some die hard console gamers would complain the majority would just say "what? oh man...oh well" and move on. :(Shinobishyguy
The way I see it all three consoles have a GOTY 360: GeOW wii; Super Mario Galaxy ps3; MGS4... ...so yeah. Temporary truse anyone?

Heck no,now that all the consoles are tied,the fighting will only get bloodier in 2009.:P

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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]MGS4 was great if you loved MGS but I'd argue it was the weakest MGS overall hence why it's not my GOTY. XTy

Coming from a poster that doesn't own a PS3, you aren't really surprising anyone.

And coming from someone pretending to be a lem neither do you
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#41 Toriko42
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Agree completely. MGS4 didn't deserve a 10. BioShockOwnz
I thought it did, as closure to the series it was excellent but the gameplay man as fun as it was it was so western. I still love Kojima though
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#42 ps3weee
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It didnt deserve a 10 thats true , maybe not the most overrated but ... I dont know how a game that is over after you beat it 2-3 times with no Great multiplayer can score 10.... NO game without an awesome multiplayer should get a 10 , 10 years ago it would be understandable but 2008 a game needs to be great not only in singelplayer but also multiplayer. Movie of the year for sure , MGS4 is a great movie, It is a perfect 10 movie.
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#43 XTy
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[QUOTE="XTy"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"]MGS4 was great if you loved MGS but I'd argue it was the weakest MGS overall hence why it's not my GOTY. blue_hazy_basic

Coming from a poster that doesn't own a PS3, you aren't really surprising anyone.

And coming from someone pretending ..

.

Coming from a poster that pretends to be anything but a lem, neither do you.

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#44 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="XTy"]

Coming from a poster that doesn't own a PS3, you aren't really surprising anyone.

XTy

And coming from someone pretending ..

.

Coming from a poster that pretends to be anything but a lem, neither do you.

heh feel free to look at my post history, I've nothing to hide. You on the other hand pretend to be one thing and preach another. Fakeboying is pretty sad.
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#45 strudel420
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Not willing to post this with your real account?

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#46 XTy
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[QUOTE="XTy"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] And coming from someone pretending ..blue_hazy_basic
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Coming from a poster that pretends to be anything but a lem, neither do you.

I've nothing to hide. .

Believe what you want man, I don't get checks from any company, but I call it out like I see it, just like you.In this case, he said I was right, so I guess my instincts turned out to be right, which is fine.

Here's a tip, when a poster says I DIDN"T LIKE GeoW2, and sports a bunch of PS3 Sigs and Avatar stuff, he may be the real fakeboy.

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#47 OmegaTau
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MSG4 is not overrated

gta 4 = overrated

halo = overrated

gears = overrated

y = overrated

o = overrated

u= overrated

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Lastly, good luck trying to get ANY gamerscore on MEGAMAN 9, with the 360's Dpad, lol. I am going to go for another assumption thinking you have 100 or less in Megaman 9 for 360. Just assuming, you can try and own me, I am good at this Psychic stuff.

XTy
I guess all the people that have gotten the full 200 for megaman 9 on 360 means nothing then?
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#49 AAllxxjjnn
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MSG4 is not overrated

gta 4 = overrated

halo = overrated

gears = overrated

y = overrated

o = overrated

u= overrated

OmegaTau
Nice reasoning. At least he provided evidence to back up his opinion.
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mmmmmm they taste so good...mmmmmmm