In terms of character models MGS4 is about as good as Crysis!

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#1 -Maddog-
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Maybe not in everything else..but character models look as sharp and detailed, IMO. BTW MGS4 has a long way to go b4 its done...the final product graphically should be outstanding.

 

Keep in mind these are Early shots.

 

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Man I can't wait to see this at E3 :D.
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#3 tegovoltio
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I'm not gonna say it's better than Crysis but gotta admit they are very good.

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#4 rappid_rabbit
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No...
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I don't know about you guys but I play MGS for the story! Guys?? Guys?...
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#6 AdrianWerner
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Depends. MGS4 main models(ie..Snake and all the other "important people) looks up to par with crysis, but the cannonfodder/enemies in MGS4 looks far less detailed than Crysis ones.
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#7 tegovoltio
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I don't know about you guys but I play MGS for the story! Guys?? Guys?...psychic_zebra
I play MGS for the gamplay and story and quirks, but MGS games tend to have great graphics which is a great plus.
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#8 pandorax1
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MGS4 is the only reason I still have an ounce of respect left for the PS3. And yes, it certainly looks amazing, the character models might not be Crysis quality, but theyre still wonderful .
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[QUOTE="psychic_zebra"]I don't know about you guys but I play MGS for the story! Guys?? Guys?...tegovoltio
I ply MGS for the gamplay and story and quirks, but MGS games tend to have great graphics which is a great plus.

 

Exactly think of it as a bonus, along side its always perfects story and interesting characters. Hideo can always do graphical wonders on even the least powerfull consoles. ;) 

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#10 Viviath
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MGS4 models look great but Crysis is still above. The fact that you can even compare MGS4 to Crysis is a compliment by itself :D
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#11 tegovoltio
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Depends. MGS4 main models(ie..Snake and all the other "important people) looks up to par with crysis, but the cannonfodder/enemies in MGS4 looks far less detailed than Crysis ones.AdrianWerner

Yea, I could agree with that and it's kinda like that on past MGS, but in some parts the guards look very good on MGS4 like these for instance:

In others not so much....specially when the guards are showing their face.

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MGS4 char models are better then what ive seen from Crysis for the most part.  Crysis has a much larger scale though regardless MGS4 isnt even close to being done.
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 Nice, but thats like Comparing Gears of War to Unreal Tournement, GeoW and MGS (Assuming for MGS) is all good graphics in a small area while UT3/Crysis are very largescale, achieving more with better graphics enabled.

 Looks great though, shame I'm going 100% hermit now :| 

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#14 Stonin
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If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too. 

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#15 Vadrick
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If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too. 

Stonin

If I payed as much as the average hermit for a highend pc to play only one great looking game I would be a little bitter too.  Fact is MGS4 doesnt look to far off from crysis and in Char models it has the advantage.

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surely crysis will only look better on about 1 percent of computers......
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If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too.

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What touch a nerve?
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#18 Ricko1234
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too.

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What touch a nerve?

loooool and that guy doesn't realise that the ps3 is actually reeeeeeeeeally cheap for a blue ray player. 

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#19 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too.

Vadrick

If I payed as much for a highend pc to play great looking game id be bitter also fact is MGS4 doesnt look to far off from crysis and in Char models it has the advantage.

The thing is that my high end PC does sooo much more than play great games like Crysis AND I will recoup all of that money and more in the massively reduced price of games, saying that it costs so much just makes you look jealous. I'm going to keep your reply so I can come back and laugh when you see the actual released games side-by-side...man thats going to be a funny day.
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[QUOTE="PaintballinDude"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too.

Ricko1234

What touch a nerve?

loooool and that guy doesn't realise that the ps3 is actually reeeeeeeeeally cheap for a blue ray player. 

$200 cheaper. no more.
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[QUOTE="Ricko1234"][QUOTE="PaintballinDude"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too.

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What touch a nerve?

loooool and that guy doesn't realise that the ps3 is actually reeeeeeeeeally cheap for a blue ray player.

$200 cheaper. no more.

only? thats quite alot, and I would exspect it to more than that anyway. what do you mean "NO MORE" many will be twice the price so shhh. 

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#22 Hewkii
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only? thats quite alot, and I would exspect it to more than that anyway. what do you mean "NO MORE" many will be twice the price so shhh. 

Ricko1234
and many will be $700. they are right now, actually.
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#23 dreamdude
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It seems the PS3 can do character models quite well, but not so much for envirnments. Oblivion being the exception, but thats an argument in itself.
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#24 gillri
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yes i think it does but Crysis like most PC games have little or no artistic style, so IMO MGS4 will look better

 

 

 

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I disagree. Crysis has much better character models.
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#26 haols
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Seriously stop fooling yourself, take a look at the latest images of Crysis right here on GS. Crysis destroys MGS4 by a long shot as long as you are not a fanboy.

Or even better watch the latest video in HD.
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#27 X360PS3AMD05
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I disagree. Crysis has much better character models.lucas_kelly
Yup and we all know MGS is mostly CGI.
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#28 Stonin
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Seriously stop fooling yourself, take a look at the latest images of Crysis right here on GS. Crysis destroys MGS4 by a long shot as long as you are not a fanboy. haols
They can't, they are Sony fanboys. These are the people that truely believed that the PS2 would be capable of Toy Story like graphics...because Sony said so. Here we are 7 years later and they still suck it up from Phil Harrison. What is worse is that the casual gamer really thinks the PS3 is 10x more powerful than anything on the market...*sigh*.
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#29 the-very-best
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MGS has and will always have fantastic graphics but I mainly play the game for the plot and unique gameplay.
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#30 AgentVX
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Yawn....

Crysis is going to look noticably better than this game. DX10 trumps all consoles.

MGS4 is looking nice though, from the rare actual gameplay shots that I see.  All I see is CGI shots here, yawn....

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Yawn....

Crysis is going to look noticably better than this game. DX10 trumps all consoles.

MGS4 is looking nice though, from the rare actual gameplay shots that I see. All I see is CGI shots here, yawn....

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MGS never uses CGI. The game will probably look far better than the screens posted.

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#32 haols
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[QUOTE="haols"]Seriously stop fooling yourself, take a look at the latest images of Crysis right here on GS. Crysis destroys MGS4 by a long shot as long as you are not a fanboy. Stonin
They can't, they are Sony fanboys. These are the people that truely believed that the PS2 would be capable of Toy Story like graphics...because Sony said so. Here we are 7 years later and they still suck it up from Phil Harrison. What is worse is that the casual gamer really thinks the PS3 is 10x more powerful than anything on the market...*sigh*.

Casuals are just sad, but fanboys are downright annoying. I just wish all of those who truly believes that MGS equals Crysis to watch the latest crysis video in HD.
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#33 Mass_Effect
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surely crysis will only look better on about 1 percent of computers......Ricko1234

Exactly; that's what most people fail to realise. There will only be a few people here on system wars that will have a PC powerful enough to run Crysis at high settings.

Of course, here on system wars, every PC fanboy has claimed to buying a PC 5x more powerful than the PS3 for less money

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nah.. crysis is untouchable right now. Doesn't matter though. Character models in MGS4 will look great.
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#35 Stonin
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[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Yawn....

Crysis is going to look noticably better than this game. DX10 trumps all consoles.

MGS4 is looking nice though, from the rare actual gameplay shots that I see. All I see is CGI shots here, yawn....

the-very-best

MGS never uses CGI. The game will probably look far better than the screens posted.

We shall see, we shall see. Not one game yet has lived up to its graphical hype on PS3 and I don't see this as being any different.
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[QUOTE="Ricko1234"]surely crysis will only look better on about 1 percent of computers......Mass_Effect

Exactly; that's what most people fail to realise. There will only be a few people here on system wars that will have a PC powerful enough to run Crysis at high settings.

Of course, here on system wars, every PC fanboy has claimed to buying a PC 5x more powerful than the PS3 for less money

Nah, I guess the standard around here for people using their computers for gaming is somewhere around a 7600GT. That will mot likely play Crysis on Medium on 1280X1024 No AA No AF. A Geforce 8800GTS 320 will likely be enough for High-ultra high with little AA at 1280X1024 (This is the most popular resolution as of now, that is why I use it as an example.) Most people here will be able to play Crysis, and it will look very good even on medium.
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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Yawn....

Crysis is going to look noticably better than this game. DX10 trumps all consoles.

MGS4 is looking nice though, from the rare actual gameplay shots that I see. All I see is CGI shots here, yawn....

Stonin

MGS never uses CGI. The game will probably look far better than the screens posted.

We shall see, we shall see. Not one game yet has lived up to its graphical hype on PS3 and I don't see this as being any different.

that's the sad truth.. but i hope Kojima has a better understanding of the PS3 hardware
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[QUOTE="Ricko1234"]surely crysis will only look better on about 1 percent of computers......Mass_Effect

Exactly; that's what most people fail to realise. There will only be a few people here on system wars that will have a PC powerful enough to run Crysis at high settings.

Of course, here on system wars, every PC fanboy has claimed to buying a PC 5x more powerful than the PS3 for less money

Who has what PC is irrelevant when claiming which GAME is technically more advanced than the other. You can debate consoles vs pc's as a gaming platform as much as you like and both sides have valid arguements...but when you are comparing the graphical capabilities of the systems you would be well advised to side with the PC.
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#39 souledge474
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Umm...are you guys blind?!:|

MGS4 is a good looking game but... 

Crysis looks WAAY better than MGS4, anyone who actually agrues this should be shot.....

 And why are some people here saying MGS4 will look better than Crysis!?!?

 ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!?!

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[QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Yawn....

Crysis is going to look noticably better than this game. DX10 trumps all consoles.

MGS4 is looking nice though, from the rare actual gameplay shots that I see. All I see is CGI shots here, yawn....

the-very-best

MGS never uses CGI. The game will probably look far better than the screens posted.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I think graphically the game is looking great.  But the first shot is definately CGI, we have all seen this before from all consoles.  When I actually see some gameplay, it will look nothing close to that first shot. 

And the game will definately look worse than that first shot, that I can assure you.

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="AgentVX"]

Yawn....

Crysis is going to look noticably better than this game. DX10 trumps all consoles.

MGS4 is looking nice though, from the rare actual gameplay shots that I see. All I see is CGI shots here, yawn....

Stonin

MGS never uses CGI. The game will probably look far better than the screens posted.

We shall see, we shall see. Not one game yet has lived up to its graphical hype on PS3 and I don't see this as being any different.

MGS has always used the in-game graphics for cut-scenes. MGS4 won't be any different

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[QUOTE="Ricko1234"]surely crysis will only look better on about 1 percent of computers......Mass_Effect

Exactly; that's what most people fail to realise. There will only be a few people here on system wars that will have a PC powerful enough to run Crysis at high settings.

Of course, here on system wars, every PC fanboy has claimed to buying a PC 5x more powerful than the PS3 for less money

Heh, the Irony, what you fail to realize is that when its released in 5 months time, there would have already been a 50% price cut to the current Duo Cores, and the Graphics cards will lower once ATI go DX10, a simple Mobo/Proc/GPU & Ram swap costs less than your console that wont drop prices for years.... "PC Fan Boys" get cheaper hardware every month, Crysis is optimized to back-track 2 years... use your head >> anyone can save to upgrade a PC the same way they saved for thier consoles.
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[QUOTE="Ricko1234"]surely crysis will only look better on about 1 percent of computers......Mass_Effect

Exactly; that's what most people fail to realise. There will only be a few people here on system wars that will have a PC powerful enough to run Crysis at high settings.

Of course, here on system wars, every PC fanboy has claimed to buying a PC 5x more powerful than the PS3 for less money

but it can look better. that's the point. with adequate hardware, it looks much better.
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He's hunting wabbits.....

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I think the TC may have run for the hills.  Ownage denied + Self-Ownage Approved = Sad TC.
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[QUOTE="Vadrick"][QUOTE="Stonin"]

If you stand in the light of a blue moon, wear your special fanboy goggles and ignore everything you know about graphical quality in computer games then yes, the MGS characters look just as good as Crysis :roll:

Then again, if i'd paid as much as you guys for a movie player disguised as a console i'd be grasping at straws too.

Stonin

If I payed as much for a highend pc to play great looking game id be bitter also fact is MGS4 doesnt look to far off from crysis and in Char models it has the advantage.

The thing is that my high end PC does sooo much more than play great games like Crysis AND I will recoup all of that money and more in the massively reduced price of games, saying that it costs so much just makes you look jealous. I'm going to keep your reply so I can come back and laugh when you see the actual released games side-by-side...man thats going to be a funny day.

I wont argue with u from a graphical point but I can guarantee one thing for sure that MGS will have over crysis and that is a better storyline, and that is a big part of games that people dont understand what makes a great game. Even with all that gorgeous graphical power behind crysis, I can promise u, that the devs making that game are not as good as Kojima, and kojima will finish this series off with a bang. I also think MGS4 is still the most anticipated game out there and will see alot of ps3's fly off shelves because of this one game. I do give crysis though the graphical props that it is the best looking game to date but MGS4 will not be far behind in graphics, and will be the first to showcase what the ps3 is capable of.

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#47 tegovoltio
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Umm...are you guys blind?!:|

MGS4 is a good looking game but...

Crysis looks WAAY better than MGS4, anyone who actually agrues this should be shot.....

And why are some people here saying MGS4 will look better than Crysis!?!?

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME?!?!

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Well most ppl are agreeing that Crysis is stil better even the TC kinda admits it,