In your opinion, what is the more technical Series, Tekken or Street Fighter?

I have had this argument with my friend many times. I say that the Tekken Series is more technical as it requires more skill to learn the moves, then use them to string together combos. He says Street Fighter Series is, because the moves aren't labled out for you, so its harder and thus more technical as you have to do all of the thinking and stringing yourself. What do you think?

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Tekken is certainly way more technical in terms of learning the moves...but that doesn't make the gameplay more technical. Tekken is stilla button masher compared to SF.

Yep, Tekken is more complex and hardcore

Tekken is certainly way more technical in terms of learning the moves...but that doesn't make the gameplay more technical. Tekken is stilla button masher compared to SF.

ZIMdoom

To be pro Tekken gamer you need to learn the moves, mushing will get you to some level, but then it will be very hard without controling the moves.

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Tekken is certainly way more technical in terms of learning the moves...but that doesn't make the gameplay more technical. Tekken is stilla button masher compared to SF.

ShadowriverUB

To be pro Tekken gamer you need to learn the moves, mushing will get you to some level, but then it will be very hard without controling the moves.

Yep very true, a true pro can diffuse button mashing by killing them in a few swift combos.

Tekken 5/6 vs SF4? Tekken hands down. SF3 3rd Strike vs Tekken is a much closer comparison however.

Tekken is certainly way more technical in terms of learning the moves...but that doesn't make the gameplay more technical. Tekken is stilla button masher compared to SF.

ZIMdoom

Make me learn how to put 5 EWGF in the same juggle button mashing with Kazuya. Make it, please.

tough one to call.

Ah sorry, i should have made it more specific. When i say Tekken or Street Fighter i mean the series as a whole.

I have had this argument with my friend many times. I say Tekken is more technical as it requires more skill to learn the moves, then use them to string together combos. He says Street Fighter is, because the moves aren't labled out for you, so its harder and thus more technical as you have to do all of the thinking and stringing yourself. What do you think?

Omustu

A high number of combos doesn't mean much when you'll only be using a couple to string juggles which imo isn't a very good mark for a fighter. The combos in street fighter are also a lot more harder to pull off (and i don't mean ultra combos and super combos, those are easy). Street Fighter is about mind games, perfect execution and zoning. Tekken also has zoning but not to the degree that street fighter has. Also tekken has become much more juggle orientated. Personally i don't think that takes as much skill, since you are learning to execute a combo without any risk once you've executed the launcher. In street fighter you need to read your oppenent and make sure you don't mess up a combo otherwise you can get punished very badly.

Take this into account. Many of my friends find it easy to get into tekken, while a lot of them complain about the difficulty of Street Fighter.

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I have had this argument with my friend many times. I say Tekken is more technical as it requires more skill to learn the moves, then use them to string together combos. He says Street Fighter is, because the moves aren't labled out for you, so its harder and thus more technical as you have to do all of the thinking and stringing yourself. What do you think?

Arjdagr8

A high number of combos doesn't mean much when you'll only be using a couple to string juggles which imo isn't a very good mark for a fighter. The combos in street fighter are also a lot more harder to pull off (and i don't mean ultra combos and super combos, those are easy). Street Fighter is about mind games, perfect execution and zoning. Tekken also has zoning but not to the degree that street fighter has. Also tekken has become much more juggle orientated. Personally i don't think that takes as much skill, since you are learning to execute a combo without any risk once you've executed the launcher. In street fighter you need to read your oppenent and make sure you don't mess up a combo otherwise you can get punished very badly.

Take this into account. Many of my friends find it easy to get into tekken, while a lot of them complain about the difficulty of Street Fighter.

I see what you are saying, and it seems like you know a great deal about both. But its learning the button combinations, then stringing them together is what makes it that much more technical. You can learn all of a characters moves in Street Fighter in about an hour. However i agree that once you have a started and landed a combo, its pretty normal that combo will follow through and cause a great deal of damage.

In general, I think 2-D fighters tend to be more technical in many areas, as they require more advanced strategies in a pro level competition and have a higher learning curve (VF is a big exception though, as it is probably the most technical fighter even though its 3D). So I vote for Street Fighter in this case, Tekken relies too much on memorizing combos and launching the opponent to cause big damage.

Memorizing combos is useless if you must imput 5 just frame moves in a chain of 8 hits. When the required skill is so high in the timming and window of execution we are talking in Tekken 6 about one of the most technical fighting game ever. I only find harder to master VF, because the timming with some of the characters is even more insane (Akira).

But SF IV has also the drawback of spawnable ranged attacks, that imo hurts the gameplay in fighting games. Since VF, no one successful polygonal fg is based on ranged attacks (VF, Tekken , Soul Calibur, DOA... ). Also, Tekkem and VF are dominant in the arcade saloons scene, that must show a lot about how the "pro" players thinks about the technical level in SF compared against Tekken and VF.

Hiding moves is a form a fake difficulty and does not make a game more technical.

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I have had this argument with my friend many times. I say Tekken is more technical as it requires more skill to learn the moves, then use them to string together combos. He says Street Fighter is, because the moves aren't labled out for you, so its harder and thus more technical as you have to do all of the thinking and stringing yourself. What do you think?

Omustu

A high number of combos doesn't mean much when you'll only be using a couple to string juggles which imo isn't a very good mark for a fighter. The combos in street fighter are also a lot more harder to pull off (and i don't mean ultra combos and super combos, those are easy). Street Fighter is about mind games, perfect execution and zoning. Tekken also has zoning but not to the degree that street fighter has. Also tekken has become much more juggle orientated. Personally i don't think that takes as much skill, since you are learning to execute a combo without any risk once you've executed the launcher. In street fighter you need to read your oppenent and make sure you don't mess up a combo otherwise you can get punished very badly.

Take this into account. Many of my friends find it easy to get into tekken, while a lot of them complain about the difficulty of Street Fighter.

I see what you are saying, and it seems like you know a great deal about both. But its learning the button combinations, then stringing them together is what makes it that much more technical. You can learn all of a characters moves in Street Fighter in about an hour. However i agree that once you have a started and landed a combo, its pretty normal that combo will follow through and cause a great deal of damage.

A more extensive move list does not make a more technical fighter. Both games are very technical at high-level play, but the tekken dial-a-combo style just seems more noobish to me. SFIV matches seem like tiny chess matches in a fast paced environment. Tekken 6 matches seems like either party is just looking for an opportunity to juggle to death. I prefer Virtua Fighter over Tekken.WhoIsGeez

Exactly

Street Fighter.

Tekken is more about button mashing, long combos, and unrealistic juggling.

Out of those two, Tekken is. Out of all fighters, The King Of Fighters is. If you don't know every aspect of every character in KOF, it's hard to win.

Street Fighter because it takes time to learn how to chain combos together like in Street Fighter 4 and how to counter your opponent. Tekken always seemed a button masher.