Infamous2 is only possible on PS3?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Everytime a new PS3 exclusive is released, the decs say that :roll: It's almost like clockwork now.charizard1605

Yep this is pretty accurate. I haven't seen a single game on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360 much less the PC. Which if I'm reading this correctly he is saying inFAMOUS 2 couldn't be done on the PC either as the says "any other platform".

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

naughty dog isnt making games for the 360? or the people who work at naughty dog have never made games for 360? which is it?

i_am_interested

my question wasnt really a slight at you, i was just trying to get a point across to everyone (who isnt wearing fanboy goggles)

on this board exists this dumbfounded notion, no surprise its from people outside the game industry, where people on here wan to think that game developers, who make sony exclusive games such as those currently working at sucker punch, have always only made sony exclusive games throughout their entire careers

heres a newsflash for some people, some of the game developers currently at sucker punch, which is located in the seattle area, have previously worked at another famous game studio in the seattle area? care to guess what that company was?

heres a hint - they worked on halo 3

Has there ever been a 360 exclusive programmer that has said the same thing about 360?

Nahh. Probably because inFamous 2 will be much larger than the first one and that it'll take up more than 20GB in size so it'll be on 1 BD for PS3. I don't think it'll possible for 360 but at least PC is much more powerful than PS3 now.

My PC says hai :D

Has there ever been a 360 exclusive programmer that has said the same thing about 360?

FragTycoon

Has there ever been a 360 exclusive programmer that has said the same thing about 360?

FragTycoon

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Has there ever been a 360 exclusive programmer that has said the same thing about 360?

mystervj

PS3 didn't have enough RAM it seems for Gears 1.:lol:

[QUOTE="FragTycoon"]

Has there ever been a 360 exclusive programmer that has said the same thing about 360?

mystervj

We can only speculate can't we? Also its amazing to see so many people posting on SW with in depth knowledge of videogames development.Yes the dev may have his cheques cashed by Sony,but I'll bet he's more knowledgeable on the subject than 99.9% of the posters arguing back and forth here.

Oh and whatever the truth, out of MS and Sony,only one is actually consistently pushing their console with high quality and technically outstanding exclusives.

"I don't think we could make this game, from a technical perspective, on any other console or any other platform."

Yes I'm sure PC's would struggle to produce Infamous 2 :roll:

"I don't think we could make this game, from a technical perspective, on any other console or any other platform."

Yes I'm sure PC's would struggle to produce Infamous 2 :roll:

dommeus

another person on here who thinks they can read processing code through screenshots like theyre neo from the matrix

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Zodetak"]

Now your hereing it from the dev's mouth's, and lemmings will still deni that the cell is any good.

skektek

Sucker Punch is anindependentcompany.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You're hearing from Sony that a Sony product is superior? Unbelievable! :shock:dommeus

Sucker Punch is anindependentcompany.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You're hearing from Sony that a Sony product is superior? Unbelievable! :shock:dommeus

Sucker Punch is anindependentcompany.

we knew this since killzone 2, no need to repeat it again and again

Does Sony now require their developers to say this before they will publish a game? It seems like every time a new exclusive comes out some chuckle head has to say this same crap, Even though people with common sense know that both systems are pretty evenly matched.

Of course it can only be done on the PS3 because that's all you coded it for you nimrod...sheesh. Reach can only be done on the Xbox, SMG2 can only be done on the Wii....

We can only speculate can't we? Also its amazing to see so many people posting on SW with in depth knowledge of videogames development.Yes the dev may have his cheques cashed by Sony,but I'll bet he's more knowledgeable on the subject than 99.9% of the posters arguing back and forth here.

Oh and whatever the truth, out of MS and Sony,only one is actually consistently pushing their console with high quality and technically outstanding exclusives.

stvee101

lol yeah most people here think that they have more knowledge than actual videogame programmers.

they don't have to program for certain system to know the capabilities and what can and can't be done on it, sucker punch should know the system specs of both PS3 and Xbox 360 they know what can fit and can't fit on the system.

I bet you if microsoft themselves said certain PS3 games can't be done on Xbox 360 most of you will find excuses as well lol

"I don't think we could make this game, from a technical perspective, on any other console or any other platform."

Yes I'm sure PC's would struggle to produce Infamous 2 :roll:

dommeus

[QUOTE="i_am_interested"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] Naughty Dog isn't making games for the XBox 360 though, so..... It's all about the developer when it come right now to it. We'll see what Insomniac does on the XBox 360 when they release their first game for it. blackace

naughty dog isnt making games for the 360? or the people who work at naughty dog have never made games for 360? which is it?

Im sorry you seem to be confused. There is an order to which they came out and gained recognition.

1. Resisteance 2, that game was never considered best on consoles.

2. Killzone 2 was said to be best on consoles when it released by official reviews or game journailsts/ not fanboys,

3. After KZ2 no game got that recognition as best gfx on consoles until Uncharted 2 released and it was called the best by officaial reviews or game journilists/not fanobys.

4 After UC2 no game got recognition as the absolute best on consoles by offical review or game journists EXCEPT GOW3.

"God Of War 3, previously high on our bullshot radar has just not only met, but exceeded any possible graphical expectations we previously held. The up-close detail is almost painfully sharp with the game's engine panning back without a blip to epic-scale carnage. Quite simply breathtaking. In a purely visual context, God Of War 3 has just earned a comfortable place in our number one spot."

http://ps3.nowgamer.com/news/2548/god-of-war-3-the-best-graphics-weve-ever-seen

Oh and incase you missed it this game journist for this articale is Dan Howdle:Deptudy Editor Xbox Magazine

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Zodetak"]

Now your hereing it from the dev's mouth's, and lemmings will still deni that the cell is any good.

skektek

Sucker Punch is anindependentcompany.

[QUOTE="EG101"]

360 would not only run those games but most likely run them better than PS3 just look at 95% of all other games for evidence.

kuraimen

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="mitu123"] One day they might be right.

ErkiB

pure, simple, marketing, if i had a 50 dollar bill for everytime a dev said this, i'll be rich

why is this thread still going?

things we can all agree on:

- people outside the game industry know more than people inside the game industry
- people who dont make games know more than people who do make games
- no one at sucker punch has ever worked on a 360
- screenshots let us know what kind of complex data a CPU is processing and how fast
- people who dont make games can read that data through screenshots
- xdr ram clocked at the same speed as Cell poses no advantages versus being clocked at 500mhz

am i forgetting anything?

PC says hi, I can do everything any console can do and more , thanks.

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] You're hearing from Sony that a Sony product is superior? Unbelievable! :shock:HuusAsking

Sucker Punch is an independent company.

Sucker Punch is not Sony. What do you fail to understand about that?

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="skektek"]

Sucker Punch is an independent company.

skektek

Sucker Punch is not Sony. What do you fail to understand about that?

why is this thread still going?

things we can all agree on:

- people outside the game industry know more than people inside the game industry
- people who dont make games know more than people who do make games
- no one at sucker punch has ever worked on a 360
- screenshots let us know what kind of complex data a CPU is processing and how fast
- people who dont make games can read that data through screenshots
- xdr ram clocked at the same speed as Cell poses no advantages versus being clocked at 500mhz

am i forgetting anything?

i_am_interested

[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]But under a Sony contract. So was Kojima Productions while developing MGS4.HuusAsking

Sucker Punch is not Sony. What do you fail to understand about that?

Everytime a new PS3 exclusive is released, the decs say that :roll: It's almost like clockwork now.charizard1605

Well 360 still needs to pump out a game that is better looking that Killzone 2, GoW3, and Uncharted 2... so I don't thinkthese devs are blindly saying these things.

He is reading from the Sony script thats all,its still comedy this goes on.

[QUOTE="bandicoot89"]

if both Crytek and Id say that the hd consoles are pretty much equal in power, I take their word over 1st party/2nd party devs

waltefmoney

No man, don't you know? It only counts if the developer gets paid by Sony/Microsoft.

To cows:

Epic Games: PlayStation 3 too low tech for Gears of War.

Epic said it, so it must be true, right?

The only difference is that there is a presedent set already,UT3 runs on PS3 just as good as on 360 even that the xbox 360 has more ram,which is a lie they both had the same ammount distribute differently without counting the 10MB extra for 360.

The engine in which Gears run UE3 also works and run just as fine on PS3,now Infamous 2 engine has never been show running on 360 that is a presedent.

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

[QUOTE="bandicoot89"]

if both Crytek and Id say that the hd consoles are pretty much equal in power, I take their word over 1st party/2nd party devs

waltefmoney

Carmack said PS3 is better

i dont care what crytek say

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/carmack-ps3-performance-lags-behind-360

Sure he did..

"The rasteriser is just a little bit slower – no two ways about that. The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. Processing wise, the main CPU is about the same,

Is funny how Carmack say the GPU is faster on 360,but when it comes to CPU he say they are about the same,which is a utter lie every one know Cell is a much better CPU than Xenon is and do allot of things the Xenon just can't do,that is the problem with developer of multiplatform tittle they don't want to work on cell and want to run it all on the RSX,Carmack has complain for everything on the PS3 from been weak to be more complicated you name it,but he hans't make a game yet that surpass Killzone 2 on consoles,gears 2 did not for sure.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

Carmack said PS3 is better

i dont care what crytek say

Eltormo

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/carmack-ps3-performance-lags-behind-360

Sure he did..

"The rasteriser is just a little bit slower – no two ways about that. The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. Processing wise, the main CPU is about the same,

Is funny how Carmack say the GPU is faster on 360,but when it comes to CPU he say they are about the same,which is a utter lie every one know Cell is a much better CPU than Xenon is and do allot of things the Xenon just can't do,that is the problem with developer of multiplatform tittle they don't want to work on cell and want to run it all on the RSX,Carmack has complain for everything on the PS3 from been weak to be more complicated you name it,but he hans't make a game yet that surpass Killzone 2 on consoles,gears 2 did not for sure.

Carmack is from id, Gears was made by Epic. Anyway, he did comment on the CPU's here.

[QUOTE="Eltormo"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/carmack-ps3-performance-lags-behind-360

Sure he did..

waltefmoney

"The rasteriser is just a little bit slower – no two ways about that. The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. Processing wise, the main CPU is about the same,

Is funny how Carmack say the GPU is faster on 360,but when it comes to CPU he say they are about the same,which is a utter lie every one know Cell is a much better CPU than Xenon is and do allot of things the Xenon just can't do,that is the problem with developer of multiplatform tittle they don't want to work on cell and want to run it all on the RSX,Carmack has complain for everything on the PS3 from been weak to be more complicated you name it,but he hans't make a game yet that surpass Killzone 2 on consoles,gears 2 did not for sure.

Carmack is from id, Gears was made by Epic. Anyway, he did comment on the CPU's here.

Sorry iu mistake him with Cliffy.

Pay no attention to him he has always been complaining about the PS3 since it launch,he is jua a PC programer that don't like hard things.

So when did they try developing Infamous 2 on the 360?

This is getting absurd. most games can pretty much be done on ony console (except maybe the Wii)

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="bandicoot89"]

if both Crytek and Id say that the hd consoles are pretty much equal in power, I take their word over 1st party/2nd party devs

Eltormo

No man, don't you know? It only counts if the developer gets paid by Sony/Microsoft.

To cows:

Epic Games: PlayStation 3 too low tech for Gears of War.

Epic said it, so it must be true, right?

The only difference is that there is a presedent set already,UT3 runs on PS3 just as good as on 360 even that the xbox 360 has more ram,which is a lie they both had the same ammount distribute differently without counting the 10MB extra for 360.

The engine in which Gears run UE3 also works and run just as fine on PS3,now Infamous 2 engine has never been show running on 360 that is a presedent.

And at the same time the Reach engine has never been seen on the PS3. Other side of the coin. Apples to oranges; no way to say for certain.HuusAsking

Yes and your point is.? because Halo Reach is far from impressive,it doesn't even beat Killzone 2 which is almost 2 years olds,hell even if the engine could not run on PS3 that would still say nothing the game if far from been a power house for graphics or close.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

Carmack said PS3 is better

i dont care what crytek say

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/carmack-ps3-performance-lags-behind-360

Sure he did..

"The rasteriser is just a little bit slower – no two ways about that. The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. Processing wise, the main CPU is about the same,

Is funny how Carmack say the GPU is faster on 360,but when it comes to CPU he say they are about the same,which is a utter lie every one know Cell is a much better CPU than Xenon is and do allot of things the Xenon just can't do,that is the problem with developer of multiplatform tittle they don't want to work on cell and want to run it all on the RSX,Carmack has complain for everything on the PS3 from been weak to be more complicated you name it,but he hans't make a game yet that surpass Killzone 2 on consoles,gears 2 did not for sure.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]And at the same time the Reach engine has never been seen on the PS3. Other side of the coin. Apples to oranges; no way to say for certain.Eltormo

Yes and your point is.? because Halo Reach is far from impressive,it doesn't even beat Killzone 2 which is almost 2 years olds,hell even if the engine could not run on PS3 that would still say nothing the game if far from been a power house for graphics or close.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Everytime a new PS3 exclusive is released, the decs say that :roll: It's almost like clockwork now.KevinButlerVP

agree on this ^^^