Infendo Reviews Metroid Other M after just 5 hours!/Update response from site!

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#1 Captain_Lorelli
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3/5 stars and the reviewer is only 1/3 of the way through the game. It is one thing to not like a game, but it is unprofessional to review it after 1/3 playtime. Not to mention there are NDA's until Friday. The reviewer complains about being stuck (in a Metroid game) and not being able to dodge in fps, which you can. Also, right after he says he got stuck, he says the game is too linear.

http://www.infendo.com/mixed-results-infendo-reviews-metroid-other-m/comment-page-1/#comment-83897

NEW RESPONSE ARTICLE:

http://www.infendo.com/you-dont-need-to-finish-a-game-to-write-a-review-about-it/

Yikes, now I feel had. I just gave these bums there day of fame.....

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#2 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I played that much of Metroid Prime 3 and knew it was crap and stopped playing it.
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#3 Shad0ki11
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You don't need to play a game all the way through in order to review/judge it.

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#4 Im_single
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I played that much of Metroid Prime 3 and knew it was crap and stopped playing it.Jandurin
I played 5 hours of The Witcher and was underwhelmed, beat it 25 hours later and it became one of my favorite games of all time.
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#5 ohthemanatee
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so it's confirmed then? Team ninja with no Itagaki = FAILZZ !!!! :P
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#6 mo0ksi
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There are some games that you can tell are bad by just the first few hours. But professionally, the reviewer should actually finish the entire game, or at the least, the majority of it.
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#7 Quaker-w00ts
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bought a gamecube for the Metroids, thinking that they would be as good as Super Metroid..... boy was i wrong.

but i suppose thats a decent score. cant wait to see what it'll get here.

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#8 h575309
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I played that much of Metroid Prime 3 and knew it was crap and stopped playing it.Jandurin
God I hated the controls in that game.... If your going to publish a review, at least finish it first though.
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#9 Bigboi500
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Infendo? Sounds real credible.
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#10 fueled-system
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I do agree that a reviewers job is to actually PLAY through the game as much as they possibly can but on the other side there really is no reason for the "oh it gets better after x hours(final fantasy 13...)". A game like that does not deserve a high score.

Still in all the reviewer did not do it properly it seems.

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#11 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]I played that much of Metroid Prime 3 and knew it was crap and stopped playing it.Im_single
I played 5 hours of The Witcher and was underwhelmed, beat it 25 hours later and it became one of my favorite games of all time.

that happened with me and Mass Effect. I still would've given it an 8 though, now a 9. a 6 game isn't going to become a 9 over time.
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#12 heretrix
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You don't need to play a game all the way through in order to review/judge it.

Shad0ki11

You don't need to but you should.

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Infendo, I played the 1st 3 hours of Deus Ex - TERRIBLE... greatest gaem eva ma3d my butt, PeeCee gamers has no taste!
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#14 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Infendo, I played the 1st 3 hours of Deus Ex - TERRIBLE... greatest gaem eva ma3d my butt, PeeCee gamers has no taste!illmatic87
i really have to play that more. the first hour is pretty boring and i never picked it back up :S
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#15 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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That sucks crushed my hopes alittle. I watched the gamespot play video yesterday and it looked good, but I didnt see enough to make a judgment. I thought this game would either be really good or really bad.

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#16 NoobisMaxcimus
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He should have atleast lied and said he finished it.
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#17 SaltyMeatballs
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You don't need to play a game all the way through in order to review/judge it.

Shad0ki11
If he's reviewing it, I would like to know his opinion about the whole game. Metroid is known for upgrades and exploration, playing 5 hours only scratches the surface of what is supposedly ~15 hour game.
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#18 SaltyMeatballs
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That sucks crushed my hopes alittle. I watched the gamespot play video yesterday and it looked good, but I didnt see enough to make a judgment. I thought this game would either be really good or really bad.

Advid-Gamer
C'mon, all GS showed were CGI we had seen before and the tutorial levels (which we had seen most of). They seemed to have a positive attitude when talking about the game though.
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#19 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Everyone that is saying he should of finished it, how long is the game? If it is a 8 to 10 hr game he played enough to judge the game. If you dont like the first half of a game chances are the last few hrs are not going to change your mind. NG2 sucked bad compared to NG, I honestly did not have alot of faith in Team ninja to begin with.

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#20 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

You don't need to play a game all the way through in order to review/judge it.

If he's reviewing it, I would like to know his opinion about the whole game. Metroid is known for upgrades and exploration, playing 5 hours only scratches the surface of what is supposedly ~15 hour game.

1/3 of the game is barely scratching the surface? :| what kind of nonsense is this?
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#21 mystervj
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Hmm, I know G4 had a really brief negative impression of the game during one of their pod cast.
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#22 Captain_Lorelli
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

You don't need to play a game all the way through in order to review/judge it.

Jandurin

If he's reviewing it, I would like to know his opinion about the whole game. Metroid is known for upgrades and exploration, playing 5 hours only scratches the surface of what is supposedly ~15 hour game.

1/3 of the game is barely scratching the surface? :| what kind of nonsense is this?

Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

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#23 ImaPirate0202
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I doubt the majority of reviewers actually play through 100% of their games.

I didn't have big hopes for this game, anyway.

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#24 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

Captain_Lorelli
and if the game is bad then all that crap is pointless
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#25 Captain_Lorelli
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[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

Jandurin

and if the game is bad then all that crap is pointless

Hopeless. Did you ever once think that those things can make a game good?

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#26 meetroid8
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You don't need to play a game all the way through in order to review/judge it.

Shad0ki11
......... *sighs* Really?
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Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

Captain_Lorelli
Gameplay wont' change from 5 hours in to 15 hours in. The controls will still be the same. It'll still be the same damn game.
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#28 LegatoSkyheart
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I thought that was one of the "Taboos" of Reviews. I mean you don't watch a movie 1/3 of the way and give a review of it.

Oh well decent Score though.

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#29 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

and if the game is bad then all that crap is pointless

Hopeless. Did you ever once think that those things can make a game good?

lol you must be kidding with me
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#30 Master_ShakeXXX
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7.0 - 7.5 score all but confirmed at Gamespot?

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#31 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

Gameplay wont' change from 5 hours in to 15 hours in. The controls will still be the same. It'll still be the same damn game.

exactly.
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#32 FIipMode
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Flop incoming.

[spoiler] Nah it will probably be AA. [/spoiler]

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#33 IppoTenma
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Lol'd pretty hard. Seems like I'll enjoy the game a lot. Can't wait for other reviewers take on it later tonight, or I guess midnight.
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#34 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

Gameplay wont' change from 5 hours in to 15 hours in. The controls will still be the same. It'll still be the same damn game.

exactly.

Incorrect.
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#35 Zen_Light
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Reviewing this game with only 1/3 completed is just stupid because the story is a huge part of the game. It would be like reading a third of a book, or watching 40 minutes of a movie, and then passing judgement on it.

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#36 DraugenCP
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I only started fully appreciating Crysis throughout my second playthrough.

The reason I don't attach much value to reviews these days (at least online) is because reviewers generally can't afford to wait too long with writing and publishing a review. They not uncommonly base their opinions on marathon sessions (often at the publisher's headquarters), and that makes you experience a game in a whole different way than taking, say, 2 weeks to completely familiarise yourself with a game and pay full attention to every detail and every aspect of the gameplay. These marathon sessions can either make you overenthousiastic over a game that may prove unsubstantial on the long game, or overly negative over a game that needs to be played in short bursts and takes some getting used to before it can be fully enjoyed and appreciated.

I do believe that you can tell if a game's really bad after 20 minutes, but that only goes for real low quality games such as Carmageddon 64 and Superman 64. But there's no way in hell a reviewer can form a balanced opinion on a quality game 1/3rd in, CERTAINLY not a game like Metroid. This is the reason why this whole AAAA/AAA/AA crap is essentially meaningless. It's only an indication of a game's quality and polish. GTA IV might have overwhelmed certain reviewers in terms of new features and presentation (even though I'm positive some money on the publisher's behalf was involved), but I don't think a serious gamer with good knowledge of what he's playing could seriously give this game a 10 after finishing it.

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#37 shutdown_202
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Meh, i dont think anyone should force their way through. Chances are if forces himself the overall score will be lower. As long as they mention how much theyve played and review nothing more than that.

The problem with Metroid games are theyre not for everyone. I know quite alot of people that cant stand Metroid, more to do with the -vania gameplay and the heavy silence.

Ill see how it is in a few months.

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#38 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

Captain_Lorelli

and if the game is bad then all that crap is pointless

Hopeless. Did you ever once think that those things can make a game good?

not if they are pointless.

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#39 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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Wow, I actually read the review, I am very dissappointed to say the least. Shamus a whiny brat with daddy issues? I was not expecting that. also forcing you to use fps mode to lock on targets but you cant move and are a sitting duck. Cant wait for more reviews to start pouring in.

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#40 Captain_Lorelli
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[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Story,gameplay, environments, new moves, new Bosses, new enemies, cliffhangers, exploration,puzzles, secrets, did I miss anyhting.

SoraX64

Gameplay wont' change from 5 hours in to 15 hours in. The controls will still be the same. It'll still be the same damn game.

No the controls may be the same, but the gameplay can change drastically. Gameplay just isnnt controls btw.

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#41 LegatoSkyheart
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Now, I want to discuss the main complaint I have with Other M. Unfortunately, it is so big and glaring that it really takes away from what would otherwise be a great game: THE CUT SCENES. Giving Samus a voice was the worst idea in the history of ideas. I know Metroid fans have been clamoring for this for a long time. All I can say is, be careful for what you wish for. Team Ninja has turned a video game fantasy into a nightmare. Samus is a whiny soul searching brat. Instead of coming across as the sexy confident bounty hunter we all thought she was, she turns out to be nothing more than a rebellious and insecure teenage girl with a daddy complex.

:|

We thought Samus was a Bad@$$?

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#42 Captain_Lorelli
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[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] and if the game is bad then all that crap is pointlessheretrix

Hopeless. Did you ever once think that those things can make a game good?

not if they are pointless.

Why are they pointless? If you enjoy those things, they are not pointless. And Metroid fans do enjoy those things, if they didn't they wouldnt be Metroid fans.

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#43 Miroku32
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Reviewing this game with only 1/3 completed is just stupid because the story is a huge part of the game. It would be like reading a third of a book, or watching 40 minutes of a movie, and then passing judgement on it.

Zen_Light
But usually if something is bad at the beginning then you can't expect alot of the product. Of course, there are exceptions that the beginning sucks and the ending is great or the beginning is great and the ending sucks.
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#44 SoraX64
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No the controls may be the same, but the gameplay can change drastically. Gameplay just isnnt controls btw.

Captain_Lorelli
I'm aware of that. But if you play a 10 to 15 hour game for 5 hours then you have a pretty good idea of how the game is. A 3/5 game isn't going to change into a 5/5 game in just a few hours. It still will have the same flaws as before. It doesn't become a completely different game.
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#45 farnham
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

You don't need to play a game all the way through in order to review/judge it.

Jandurin

If he's reviewing it, I would like to know his opinion about the whole game. Metroid is known for upgrades and exploration, playing 5 hours only scratches the surface of what is supposedly ~15 hour game.

1/3 of the game is barely scratching the surface? :| what kind of nonsense is this?

well in case of metroid thats true as the game gets more challenging and more interesting as you gain abilities

most of the metroid games control horribly at first but get better as you gain key abilities like double jumping, screw attack, wall jump etc

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Infendo?
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#47 Captain_Lorelli
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Infendo?Thunderdrone

They are garbage no doubt, it just baffles me that this person reviews games, when there are 4 year olds worthy of better judgement.

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#48 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

No the controls may be the same, but the gameplay can change drastically. Gameplay just isnnt controls btw.

SoraX64
I'm aware of that. But if you play a 10 to 15 hour game for 5 hours then you have a pretty good idea of how the game is. A 3/5 game isn't going to change into a 5/5 game in just a few hours. It still will have the same flaws as before. It doesn't become a completely different game.

It may also have some more positives though. Which he will never know.
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#50 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

Hopeless. Did you ever once think that those things can make a game good?

Captain_Lorelli

not if they are pointless.

Why are they pointless? If you enjoy those things, they are not pointless. And Metroid fans do enjoy those things, if they didn't they wouldnt be Metroid fans.

If having all of those things adds nothing to the game and are just there then they are pointless. This doesn't apply only to this Metroid game; It goes for any game in any genre.