Infinity Ward: Modern Warfare Pushes Xbox 360 To Its Upper Limits

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#1 EVOLV3
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http://www.vg247.com/2009/06/04/infinity-ward-modern-warfare-pushes-xbox-360-to-its-upper-limits/

Pretty interesting, thoughts?

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#2 chikenfriedrice
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I would say a game like Forza 3 running at 60 FPS and 1080P would push it more than MW2....but what doI know

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#3 coakroachv2
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Modern Warfare 3 PS3 exclusive? Probably not, but it makes you think...
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#4 Couth_
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I'm sure every developer tries to get the most out of the system when making a game..
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#5 AAllxxjjnn
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Yeh, sure it does.
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#6 Couth_
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I would say a game like Forza 3 running at 60 FPS and 1080P would push it more than MW2....but what doI know

chikenfriedrice

A racing game is probably easier on hardware compared to a high action shooter. MW does 60fps too, at least the first one did

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#7 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Every game this gen "pushes each console to its limits". Ever heard of dev hype?
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#9 bdum_pshhh
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2010 Treyarch "CoD7 pushes 360 to it's limit" 2011 IW "Modern Warfare 3 pushes 360 to its limits" etc.
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#10 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I would say a game like Forza 3 running at 60 FPS and 1080P would push it more than MW2....but what doI know

chikenfriedrice

A racing game is probably easier on hardware compared to a high action shooter. CoD does 60fps too

still Gears2 and RE5 look better than MW2 graphics wise

It's not always about looking better. It could be action, more enemies on screen, explosions, lighting and particle effects that use up a systems hardware
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#11 Mckenna1845
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modern warfare doesn't look like it's changed too much from cod4, the levels may have been made bigger, but there are far more demanding games out there. iw can say they are pushing the 360 when cod mw2 looks better and is as big as farcry 2.
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#12 EVOLV3
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I'm sure every developer tries to get the most out of the system when making a game..Couth_


Ye but it appears the most is reaching its limit.

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#13 -Pred-Alien-
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Its funny, when Crytek said PS3 was being pushed to the limits it was a sign at how powerful it was. Im going to love to see how the fanboys will spin this
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#14 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Every game this gen "pushes each console to its limits". Ever heard of dev hype?

Only for Gears 1, Gears 2, Red Faction, Tekken 6, Fracture, Crysis 2 (may be closest), Unreal Tournament 3...:)
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#15 The_Game21x
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Epic said the same thing after Gears of War was released.

Surprise, surprise, Gears of War 2 (as well as several other games) looked better.

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#16 lhughey
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Like i've said before, with roughly 7 lines of code, i can write a routine that will bring any CPU to its knees. is that indicative of the power of the cpu, or the "greatness" my "program"? No, it just means that its code that should be tweaked.

It could be true. But it just means that they need to do some tweaking.

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#17 chikenfriedrice
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]A racing game is probably easier on hardware compared to a high action shooter. CoD does 60fps tooCouth_

still Gears2 and RE5 look better than MW2 graphics wise

It's not always about looking better. It could be action, more enemies on screen, explosions, lighting and particle effects that use up a systems hardware

idk I don't see it but like I said I know nothing about game development lol

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#18 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]Every game this gen "pushes each console to its limits". Ever heard of dev hype?killab2oo5
Only for Gears 1, Gears 2, Red Faction, Tekken 6, Fracture, Crysis 2 (may be closest), Unreal Tournament 3...:)

I could find a lot more if I wanted.
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#19 _Peoples_Champ_
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Ohh same thing was said about Red Faction, same thing was said when gears of war came out, same thing was said about modern warfare, and same thing will be said next year and the Xbox 360 versions will still be better.

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#20 gaboi09
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1. They are dev's who have had priorexperience workingwith xbox360 and Ps3 hardware...and have produced top teir games in graphcisfor those consoles.

2. They didn't mention the PS3 so no relationship can really be drawn form what they say about the 360 to compaire with.

3. Since they are experience with the hardware and have produced one of the more impressive games of the generation for the time on both PS3 and xbox360 (COD4) they have more credibility in what they say than would a dev with no prior experience with the console or a dev who didn't create anything particually impressive.

So in conclusive I'll say...it's very interesting, but nothing can be made of this unless they reveal how their code on PS3 is handled.

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#21 AlexSays
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It's not always about looking better. It could be action, more enemies on screen, explosions, lighting and particle effects that use up a systems hardwareCouth_
Indeed. I wish everyone understood this. Like when people ask for ports on the Wii they're like "Oh it's okay, just the graphics will be a little worse" and I have to be all "Yeah because all of the system's power is just used for graphics" It's frustrating. :x
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#22 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="IronBass"]Every game this gen "pushes each console to its limits". Ever heard of dev hype?IronBass
Only for Gears 1, Gears 2, Red Faction, Tekken 6, Fracture, Crysis 2 (may be closest), Unreal Tournament 3...:)

I could find a lot more if I wanted.

I'm sure I could too, but that would require me typing more.
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Modern Warfare 3 PS3 exclusive? Probably not, but it makes you think...coakroachv2
....until you see the better sales on 360.
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#24 BioShockOwnz
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Forza 3 is technically a far superior game due to its amazing near-lifelike visuals, 1080p, and 60fps. If anything pushes the 360, it's that, not Modern Warfare 1.5.

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#25 samuraiguns
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[QUOTE="chikenfriedrice"]

I would say a game like Forza 3 running at 60 FPS and 1080P would push it more than MW2....but what doI know

Couth_

A racing game is probably easier on hardware compared to a high action shooter. MW does 60fps too, at least the first one did

lol, I said this yesterday and got ate up...
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#26 readingfc_1
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Modern Warfare 3 PS3 exclusive? Probably not, but it makes you think...coakroachv2
It doesn't make me think. It would be ludacris to give up that much money. The game might be pushing the Xbox but this is one developer. Another game, Crysis 2, has been said to push the PS3 to its limits as well. I understand they are different games but we do not know the whole story and this proves nothing about either of the consoles other than the specific developer is struggling to make their engine work as efficiently on a paticular console.

http://www.psu.com/Crytek--Crysis-2-to-push-PS3-to-its-limits--a0007481-p0.php

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#27 Malta_1980
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i always believe that when a dev comes out claiming 'i pushed system X to its limits' he is probably saying, 'we pushed our intelligence & programming skills to the limits', cause a couple of months later another game always comes out which is equal if not superior on the same hardware...

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#28 EVOLV3
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Forza 3 is technically a far superior game due to its amazing near-lifelike visuals, 1080p, and 60fps. If anything pushes the 360, it's that, not Modern Warfare 1.5.

BioShockOwnz



Nah, Modern Warfare 2 is also running at 60 FPS and much more is being renderd on screen at a time. The CPU and GPU probably have a tougher time with MW2 then Forza 3.

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#29 navyguy21
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MW2 pushes it to the limits, yet Crysis 2 is coming to 360 and will look and run better :lol: Fanboys jump on this, yet when Crytek said they are at the PS3s limits, we were met with denial :lol:
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#30 VitunLehmat
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So this is the weak come back to my thread about Crytek pushing the ps3 to its limits? lol
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#31 VitunLehmat
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]I'm sure every developer tries to get the most out of the system when making a game..EVOLV3



Ye but it appears the most is reaching its limit.

Just like the ps3 funny isn't it? crytek just said they are pushing the ps3 to its limits,but not word about the 360.
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#32 VitunLehmat
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2. They didn't mention the PS3 so no relationship can really be drawn form what they say about the 360 to compaire with.gaboi09
Just like Crytek didn't say anything about xbox 360 :D,yet they said they are pushing the ps3 to its limit lol.
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#33 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Forza 3 is technically a far superior game due to its amazing near-lifelike visuals, 1080p, and 60fps. If anything pushes the 360, it's that, not Modern Warfare 1.5.

EVOLV3



Nah, Modern Warfare 2 is also running at 60 FPS and much more is being renderd on screen at a time. The CPU and GPU probably have a tougher time with MW2 then Forza 3.

Nah, Modern Warfare 2 is very scripted in its events. A much lesser technological achievement.

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#34 Furzjodler
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Its funny how many devs claim that (on Xbox 360 & PS3) and the graphics still improve :D

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#35 comstrikeiscool
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Who cares? It's not like graphics on a console are all of a sudden going to exponentially grow. Unless you can add new hardware to the system not much is going to change.

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#36 navyguy21
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Its funny how many devs claim that (on Xbox 360 & PS3) and the graphics still improve :D

Furzjodler
Exactly, Alan Wake looks miles better than anything ive seen this gen
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#37 Kicker_of_Cans
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What game doesn't supposedly push the 360 to its limits nowadays?
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#38 PAL360
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I heard that Tekken6 was supposed to push 360 to its limits aswell. Well, the fact is that no game will ever do that to any console until the gen is over. Theres allways ways to make it even better....

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#39 PAL360
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[QUOTE="coakroachv2"]Modern Warfare 3 PS3 exclusive? Probably not, but it makes you think...moose_knuckler
....until you see the better sales on 360.

and the graphically better 360 version ;)

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#40 nervmeister
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So this is the weak come back to my thread about Crytek pushing the ps3 to its limits? lolVitunLehmat
So when Infinity Ward says 360 is being pushed to run MW2, it's complete BS. But when Crytek says PS3 is being pushed to run Crysis 2, it's sterling truth? Looks like the lemming goggles are on tighter than ever today.
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#41 Diddies
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Pushing the Xbox to its limits? Well that is not very far! lol

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#42 VitunLehmat
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[QUOTE="VitunLehmat"]So this is the weak come back to my thread about Crytek pushing the ps3 to its limits? lolnervmeister
So when Infinity Ward says 360 is being pushed to run MW2, it's complete BS. But when Crytek says PS3 is being pushed to run Crysis 2, it's sterling truth? Looks like the lemming goggles are on tighter than ever today.

The differences are that crytek push technology without cutting out other things unlike Infinity Ward in order to make their games run at 60fps they have to sacrifice,textures,effects and resolution (600p wut?) try harder next time.
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#43 heretrix
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It pushes it to it's limits until the next programming breakthough comes along.Why haven't we all learned this yet?

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#44 WilliamRLBaker
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all most five years into the cycle of course, Isn't it odd MW2 argueable one of the better looking games is comming out after all the devs that said their game pushed the 360 to its limits?

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#45 aaronmullan
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No. MW2 looks like a damn bad game. I doubt it could even touch the 360s upper limits :lol: Forza 3 on the other hand...
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#46 Gxgear
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There's better looking games on the 360 than MW2, so they're just covering their butts if it flops.

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#47 Gamer4Iife
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Modern Warfare 3 PS3 exclusive? Probably not, but it makes you think...coakroachv2

Definitely won't happen.

Besides, I doubt MW2 truly pushes the 360 to its limits. We keep hearing that every gen, for every console. Yet, we still see large improvements by the end of the generation.

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#48 rolo107
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Didn't see the words PS3 in their anywhere, how does the PS3 measure up? Guess we are meant to assume better?
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#49 -DrRobotnik-
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When will people learn...
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="VitunLehmat"]So this is the weak come back to my thread about Crytek pushing the ps3 to its limits? lolVitunLehmat
So when Infinity Ward says 360 is being pushed to run MW2, it's complete BS. But when Crytek says PS3 is being pushed to run Crysis 2, it's sterling truth? Looks like the lemming goggles are on tighter than ever today.

The differences are that crytek push technology without cutting out other things unlike Infinity Ward in order to make their games run at 60fps they have to sacrifice,textures,effects and resolution (600p wut?) try harder next time.

Well not as hard as you apparently considering your previous attempt to spin Crytek pushing the PS3 to run the sequel to the most graphically demanding game this gen as a disadvantage of the PS3 relative to your precious 360.