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Firstly : this title marks the start of a brand-new series of next-generation games for our heroes. What will be the first thing we will notice when we slide the title in the PS3?

The first thing anyone playing the game will immediately notice is the beautiful, highly detailed worlds that we have brought to life in Ratchet & Clank Future. Our tools and technology teams have done an amazing job continuing to develop our proprietary engine technology, and combined with the creative imagination of our artists, we are able to create an all-new galaxy begging to be explored.

Tell us about the overhaul of the engine technology to take advantage of the new console?

We are continuing to build our Insomniac Engine and have made many improvements to it since Resistance: Fall of Man. The one huge focus for us has been moving more of our processes over to the SPUs on the CELL processor. This has allowed us to get our physics and effects systems running roughly four times faster than it did in Resistance at nearly double the framerate, which is something you can see in weapons like the Tornado Launcher.

The games have always been vivid and vibrant. Do you see even more of this look in the new game?

We tried to maintain the same stylized look in Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction that our fans love while raising the graphics bar to a level approaching today's blockbuster CGI films.

This means a lot of saturated and vibrant colors, and using a large color palette across the different levels.

Gamers won't be disappointed with the amount of variety in the color. It should give people the perfect excuse to splurge on that HD TV.

Is all on track for a November release?

October 23rd, 2007 in North America.

What's your overall impression of the power of the PS3?

The PlayStation 3 really has given us all the tools we needed to make the game that we wanted to make.

While we have made huge strides from Resistance to Ratchet, we still feel like there is a ton more potential to be unlocked in the system and we really feel like we're still just scratching the surface.

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#3 Kaze_no_Mirai
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I'd guess its just hype. Sure its not the PS3's potential but I'd guess they're exaggerating.
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#4 too_much_eslim
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I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.
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#5 Zenkuso
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Sure it has more power to be unlocked, so does the xbox 360 ^_^

But come back when insomniac actually developes outside of the playstation brand and then there quotes will hold more credibility :D

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I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.too_much_eslim

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:

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#7 stereointegrity
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I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.too_much_eslim
so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?
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#8 Kaze_no_Mirai
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:

Could be. I'm still pretty sure it's all hype though. It is annoying to hear that about every single game coming out.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:

yourfanboyism is strong, but you lack logic. Thus the definition of a fanboy. A company who doesn't make games for the competitor can only say good things about their backer. I find it amazing how the PS3 is the only console with potential.

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#10 GGNoRematch
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Just scratched the surface? what the hell?

The system can't even run Dx10.. how much better can Rachet and Clank look?

It can't even run Crysis..

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Vibrant colors in Ratchet and Clank are a good thing, but bad in Halo 3. Go figure...
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#12 thelastguy
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They sure have been talking about the power of the ps3 alot. I hope they just live up to the hype their creating.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:

They don't need to cause they didn't add complex technologies to there system ^_^ Microsoft made a developer friendly console unlike the PS3 which is not very developer friendly and has its "hidden powers" locked away again ;) And he is right, if sony the company that made the freakin console can't get the power out of it when they made the console it doesn't give many other developers a hope in hell renegade, its not maxed out, neither is the xbox 360 even if you like to believe in the fantasy world you live in that its at its limits, it isn't :D

Its like the whole ds can't render 3D arguement from way back, look how that turned out ^_^ You can't judge game platforms on the first year alone or the second 8)

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Good, R&C never looked visually impressive to me. Killzone 2 looks 10x better, so I guess that explains why then?

And every single Sony developer says "We havn't even touched the surface of the PS3's power," even when a 360 game looks 2x better. Yippee!

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.stereointegrity
so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?

I never said they were lying. because they didn't say it couldn't be done on the 360. I believe them when they say they feel as though they just scratched the surface. I am just tired of pr talk. Just show me or shut up. Don't tell me you can make your game better, just do it.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.Zenkuso

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:

They don't need to cause they didn't add complex technologies to there system ^_^ Microsoft made a developer friendly console unlike the PS3 which is not very developer friendly and has its "hidden powers" locked away again ;) And he is right, if sony the company that made the freakin console can't get the power out of it when they made the console it doesn't give many other developers a hope in hell renegade, its not maxed out, neither is the xbox 360 even if you like to believe in the fantasy world you live in that its at its limits, it isn't :D

Its like the whole ds can't render 3D arguement from way back, look how that turned out ^_^ You can't judge game platforms on the first year alone or the second 8)

exactly.. by the time the PS3 reaches it's full potential.. The Xbox 720 will be out with Dx12

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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.too_much_eslim

so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?

I never said they were lying. because they didn't say it couldn't be done on the 360. I believe them when they say they feel as though they just scratched the surface. I am just tired of pr talk. Just show me or shut up. Don't tell me you can make your game better, just do it.

Very well said, last sentence says it all.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.Kaze_no_Mirai

so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?

I never said they were lying. because they didn't say it couldn't be done on the 360. I believe them when they say they feel as though they just scratched the surface. I am just tired of pr talk. Just show me or shut up. Don't tell me you can make your game better, just do it.

Very well said, last sentence says it all.

haha but why can't they? they already showed us that from resistance to ratchet that they were able to push the ps3 more. what makes you two think they can't push it even further?

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renagade GTFO u suck!fileman3

Thats not nice

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#20 Tiefster
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Just scratched the surface? what the hell?

The system can't even run Dx10.. how much better can Rachet and Clank look?

It can't even run Crysis..

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You have to remember that programming for a console is diferent from programming for a PC. With a console you have one set of hardware that you will constantly work with and exploit to its fullest eventually. With a PC you are catering to a huge range of hardware that varies between every PC, not to mention you have two major graphics card manufacturers to develop around thus giving you more options and less time to develop totally for top notch PCs. Its why I love the PC so much, each game has its own unique style and are not bogged down by limited engines.
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#21 goldplus
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Vibrant colors in Ratchet and Clank are a good thing, but bad in Halo 3. Go figure...SpaceMatt

Halo goes for a more serious look.

Are you joking?

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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?

I never said they were lying. because they didn't say it couldn't be done on the 360. I believe them when they say they feel as though they just scratched the surface. I am just tired of pr talk. Just show me or shut up. Don't tell me you can make your game better, just do it.

Very well said, last sentence says it all.

haha but why can't they? they already showed us that from resistance to ratchet that they were able to push the ps3 more. what makes you two think they can't push it even further?

I'm not saying they can't. But if they can, why not do it? Why not end the whole PS3/360 graphics debate now? I don't care how much they're p"scratching", what matters is what they're doing or how much they push, since its such a "power house".

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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?

I never said they were lying. because they didn't say it couldn't be done on the 360. I believe them when they say they feel as though they just scratched the surface. I am just tired of pr talk. Just show me or shut up. Don't tell me you can make your game better, just do it.

Very well said, last sentence says it all.

haha but why can't they? they already showed us that from resistance to ratchet that they were able to push the ps3 more. what makes you two think they can't push it even further?

then do it. Don't tell me you can, just do it.

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Stop stop stop stop..... What have we learned about only hyping graphics! LAIR cmon!!!! ENOUGH DEVELOPERS!!! Tell us about the gameplay not the physics, tell us more about the story not the graphics, we expect the graphics to be pleasing... tell us how you are going to reinvent ratchet and clanks tired gameplay formula after 5 games.
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renagade GTFO u suck!fileman3

Flaming could get u banned u know.

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[QUOTE="fileman3"]renagade GTFO u suck!enral

Flaming could get u banned u know.

sorry :)
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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.too_much_eslim

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:

yourfanboyism is strong, but you lack logic. Thus the definition of a fanboy. A company who doesn't make games for the competitor can only say good things about their backer. I find it amazing how the PS3 is the only console with potential.

....and yet they are not owned by Sony.

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Its funny what people will say when presented with bucketloads of cash.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.sainraja

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:

yourfanboyism is strong, but you lack logic. Thus the definition of a fanboy. A company who doesn't make games for the competitor can only say good things about their backer. I find it amazing how the PS3 is the only console with potential.

....and yet they are not owned by Sony.

Never said they were owned. I said backer, which is just like supporter. There is a difference.

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Of course they haven't tapped into the potential of thePS3 - that's the same for pretty much all consoles. And if they really are "scratching" the surface in terms of visuals and power, then who the hell is going to bother tap into that potential when italready takes 2 years to "scratch the surface" and get the products we see today?

Insomniac, get some sleep, or shut up.

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It's not so much a lie as it is an exaggeration.
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[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?

I never said they were lying. because they didn't say it couldn't be done on the 360. I believe them when they say they feel as though they just scratched the surface. I am just tired of pr talk. Just show me or shut up. Don't tell me you can make your game better, just do it.

Very well said, last sentence says it all.

haha but why can't they? they already showed us that from resistance to ratchet that they were able to push the ps3 more. what makes you two think they can't push it even further?

Maybe because it's being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? Huh? didja? DIDJA? I figured if you could say something THAT stupid with a straight face,it would be entirely fair for me to say it back mockingly.

Yes. I agree. The PS3 games will (LIKE ALL GAME CONSOLES, EVERY GENERATION) get better as devs get more comfortable with the system. Thank you for pointing that out Captain Obvious. Oddly enough though, your supposition ALSO will hold true to the competition.

And what the two above you are saying and you fail to grasp is, "Show me, don't tell me these better graphics." If the word of an industry insider from Insomniac is considered suspect (and it is due to their relationship with Sony) then the word of John Q Schmuck is much less likely to be accepted as the final word.

Not interested in the potential to play games. I'm interested in PLAYING games.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]

Very well said, last sentence says it all.

valmonte

haha but why can't they? they already showed us that from resistance to ratchet that they were able to push the ps3 more. what makes you two think they can't push it even further?

Maybe because it's being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? Huh? didja? DIDJA? I figured if you could say something THAT stupid with a straight face,it would be entirely fair for me to say it back mockingly.

Yes. I agree. The PS3 games will (LIKE ALL GAME CONSOLES, EVERY GENERATION) get better as devs get more comfortable with the system. Thank you for pointing that out Captain Obvious. Oddly enough though, your supposition ALSO will hold true to the competition.

And what the two above you are saying and you fail to grasp is, "Show me, don't tell me these better graphics." If the word of an industry insider from Insomniac is considered suspect (and it is due to their relationship with Sony) then the word of John Q Schmuck is much less likely to be accepted as the final word.

Not interested in the potential to play games. I'm interested in PLAYING games.

your sig makes me cry for a 360/PS3 version of jet set radio

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#34 Teuf_
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I'm not saying they can't. But if they can, why not do it?

Kaze_no_Mirai


Because it takes more time, money, experience, and hard work?
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IDK the gameplay looks a little dumbed down, I mean jumping from train rail to train rail ................. I personally prefer Naughty Dogs platformers to Insomniacs
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renagade GTFO u suck!fileman3

he's made about 5 worthless trash threads tonight

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#37 valmonte
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your sig makes me cry for a 360/PS3 version of jet set radio

too_much_eslim

If crying did it, I'd be investing in a hell of a lot of tissue. Still, there's always hope. Was surprised it got a sequel in the first place, so who knows?

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I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.too_much_eslim

maybe ms should hype up their system like sony. i don't think devs are getting paid to say this, their probably telling the truth. the point is if you have a system with blu ray and the cell you can hype it. The 360 isn't revolutionary well to me it isn't so there no use in hyping it as powerful and crap. This type of hype is to hype of casuals and it works.

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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:




Cliff B :

Having worked on Xbox 360, from a technology standpoint, how much more do you think the system can be pushed with future games?

I think there's plenty of room to push and experiment when it comes to physics and AI and real-time lighting. I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with gameplay as well as the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, and my gut tells me I still love playing it, I think we have a really incredible experience; I think we'll definitely push it further if we get around to dong a new version in the future.

Consider yourself owned. :)

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#41 jg4xchamp
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1- they are exclusive to sony
2- they are like a second party dev for them, without being owned by Sony.
3- THey havent even proved it with there own games. Neither Resistance and Ratchet really stick out as something better than a 360 game graphically.

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#42 michael098
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Firstly : this title marks the start of a brand-new series of next-generation games for our heroes. What will be the first thing we will notice when we slide the title in the PS3?

The first thing anyone playing the game will immediately notice is the beautiful, highly detailed worlds that we have brought to life in Ratchet & Clank Future. Our tools and technology teams have done an amazing job continuing to develop our proprietary engine technology, and combined with the creative imagination of our artists, we are able to create an all-new galaxy begging to be explored.

Tell us about the overhaul of the engine technology to take advantage of the new console?

We are continuing to build our Insomniac Engine and have made many improvements to it since Resistance: Fall of Man. The one huge focus for us has been moving more of our processes over to the SPUs on the CELL processor. This has allowed us to get our physics and effects systems running roughly four times faster than it did in Resistance at nearly double the framerate, which is something you can see in weapons like the Tornado Launcher.

The games have always been vivid and vibrant. Do you see even more of this look in the new game?

We tried to maintain the same stylized look in Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction that our fans love while raising the graphics bar to a level approaching today's blockbuster CGI films.

This means a lot of saturated and vibrant colors, and using a large color palette across the different levels.

Gamers won't be disappointed with the amount of variety in the color. It should give people the perfect excuse to splurge on that HD TV.

Is all on track for a November release?

October 23rd, 2007 in North America.

What's your overall impression of the power of the PS3?

The PlayStation 3 really has given us all the tools we needed to make the game that we wanted to make.

While we have made huge strides from Resistance to Ratchet, we still feel like there is a ton more potential to be unlocked in the system and we really feel like we're still just scratching the surface.

Read Full Interview Here

-Renegade

OMG COWS!!!! According to you guys this means there is no improvement and the graphics will be bad!!!! (referring to halo 3...)

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.VACASCULIADAS

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:




Cliff B :

Having worked on Xbox 360, from a technology standpoint, how much more do you think the system can be pushed with future games?

I think there's plenty of room to push and experiment when it comes to physics and AI and real-time lighting. I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with gameplay as well as the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, and my gut tells me I still love playing it, I think we have a really incredible experience; I think we'll definitely push it further if we get around to dong a new version in the future.

Consider yourself owned. :)

http://gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=85688

not really that was the first game they made for 360. this is the second game insomniac has made for ps3.

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#44 VACASCULIADAS
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[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:




Cliff B :

Having worked on Xbox 360, from a technology standpoint, how much more do you think the system can be pushed with future games?

I think there's plenty of room to push and experiment when it comes to physics and AI and real-time lighting. I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with gameplay as well as the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, and my gut tells me I still love playing it, I think we have a really incredible experience; I think we'll definitely push it further if we get around to dong a new version in the future.

Consider yourself owned. :)

http://gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=85688

not really that was the first game they made for 360. this is the second game insomniac has made for ps3.



But Cliff B > you, don't try to spin it.
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Just wait right :lol: the Potentialstation 3 will dominate.......one day :lol:
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.too_much_eslim

so u kno for a fact these guys are lying?

I never said they were lying. because they didn't say it couldn't be done on the 360. I believe them when they say they feel as though they just scratched the surface. I am just tired of pr talk. Just show me or shut up. Don't tell me you can make your game better, just do it.

they are showing you... hence the improvements from Resistance to Ratchet.

improvements are gradual, but there's a big reason for that.

what you don't understand is how expensive it is to make games this Gen. i'm sure there's a dev out there that can max out ps3 capablities, but they won't do it. they simply don't have the money or resources to do so.

as time goes by developements costs will go down, so just expect the gradual advancements to continue.

you make it sound like all this is just so easy :|

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[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="-Renegade"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"]I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.-Renegade

maybe because 360 is being nearly maxed out.. ever thought of that? :shock:




Cliff B :

Having worked on Xbox 360, from a technology standpoint, how much more do you think the system can be pushed with future games?

I think there's plenty of room to push and experiment when it comes to physics and AI and real-time lighting. I think we've only scratched the surface of what we can do with gameplay as well as the 360. There's far more potential down the road to do more stuff. As amazing as I think Gears is, and my gut tells me I still love playing it, I think we have a really incredible experience; I think we'll definitely push it further if we get around to dong a new version in the future.

Consider yourself owned. :)

http://gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=85688

not really that was the first game they made for 360. this is the second game insomniac has made for ps3.

Cliffy B's Game is graphically superior to that of anything Insomniac had done so far, so far he has been able to make a game at a much higher level of graphical success, He also has been developing long enough to notice if there was more he left behind. Expect to see Gears 2 look alot better than Gears 1. Also we have allready seen Gears being topped on the 360. Call of Duty 4 at 60fps is above and beyond any console game right now. And thats multiplat, imagine an exclusive with that kind of effort.
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Maybe we're going to see Toy Story graphics this time around.:roll:
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what the heck is wrong with you people? Insomniac did not say anything whatsoever about the 360! he is not slamming any other machine, he is not discrediting anyone. why do you feel the need to go on and say stupid crap like "he's such a liar! what a brown-noser!" That doesn't make any sense. You're confusing his optimism about the PS3 with the real PR crap from Guerilla.
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#50 Mandingo101
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I am getting tired of these game developers that are exclusive to Sony making all these statements. You do not hear anyone from the Microsoft camp making such claims. It had only been 3rd parties like Ubisoft saying stuff like that for the 360. Sony need to stop telling how almighty it is, and just show me.too_much_eslim
im pretty sure criterion said they chose ps3 as their main platform because they can get more effects or something of that nature in burnout 5. we know what kojima has said about the theatre comparison, square enix devs have said a lot of things regarding FF13, etc. thats off the top of my head so yea...