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#101 Nisim19
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[QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

CWEBB04z

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

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#102 tmntPunchout
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="whybuyaxbox360"]lets see install for what 5-10 minutes? Then no LOADING screens or swtching disk EVER ill take installswhybuyaxbox360

No Loading? what are you talking about

MGS4 has loading screens and it has 8min install to start and 3 mins each chapter

ok maybe i exagerrate,but if u compare them playing with and without u see diff.

Didn't you read the install screen messages in MGS4!! They added installs for the well-being of your health.

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#103 ThePlothole
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[QUOTE="Nedemis"]Does it really matter anyway? Mark my words, by 2009, we will see the first multidisc PS3 game seeing how the RPGs haven't really got going yet.
Liquid-Prince


Why would they do a multidisc release when they can just get an additional layer of data on the Blu-ray disc? It would be cheaper that way.

I seem to recall reading that the Blu-Ray drive used in the PS3 didn't support any more than two layers.
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#104 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

Nisim19

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

But if GR gave Halo 3 a 7 and GS gave it a 10, you would use GS. Get out with your BS. No one wants to hear it. You're a stupid fanboy who's blind and hates on amazing games. See my response to you on the other thread you brought this up.

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#105 falconclan
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[QUOTE="Nisim19"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

Albanian_Killa

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

But if GR gave Halo 3 a 7 and GS gave it a 10, you would use GS. **** with your BS. No one wants to hear it. You're a stupid fanboy who's blind and hates on amazing games. See my response to you on the other thread you brought this up.

Lems are pulling all kinds of this BS today. You might want to edit GTFO though, its against TOS, I lost points the other day. Its "Flaming" when directed at a person, whether they deserve it or not.
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#106 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="Albanian_Killa"][QUOTE="Nisim19"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

falconclan

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

But if GR gave Halo 3 a 7 and GS gave it a 10, you would use GS. **** with your BS. No one wants to hear it. You're a stupid fanboy who's blind and hates on amazing games. See my response to you on the other thread you brought this up.

Lems are pulling all kinds of this BS today. You might want to edit GTFO though, its against TOS, I lost points the other day. Its "Flaming" when directed at a person, whether they deserve it or not.

Done, thanks :)

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#107 masiisam
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I dont mind both of them..

Installs with Multi-disc's...BRING IT ON!!!!

I don't like the direction of the installs...but it affects my life Zero...And i cant remember the last game that I had to switch disc's...so that affects my life Zero..

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#108 Hammerdinz
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Why is this a problem?
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#110 Eponique
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Prefer switching discs only if it's 2 discs, anything more is outrageous, where I would prefer install (which I hate, it's a vein of evil, on consoles).

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#111 Evz0rz
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

rastaman219

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

Have you been living under a rock for the past few days? No that can't be, a rock isn't isolated enough

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#112 akif22
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either .. where's the problem really?

swapping disks doesn't take much time .. a lot lot less than an install, and it's not like you're swapping disks very often .. prob just once, twice at the most usually

and load times have been generally bareable this gen

also, you can play the game straight away rather than wait .. since you're always itching to play a new game ASAP

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#113 masiisam
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Kinda thinking about it...

and my question is "Why are not ALL the developers using the PS3 HDD installs?

It can be debated and talked about until the end of time that the installs have helped in games like GTA...not the question..

But if it was such a huge advantage in game performance why would a developer NOT use them?

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#114 pielover666
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I'd rather have Installs. Why? Because switching discs int eh middle of a game is kind of annoying. Also, I know quite a few people who are rather lax about disc management, so if you scratch the second disc, or lose it, you only get half or a third of the game. That is annoying as piss, considering my brother straight-up broke the second disc of FFVII back in teh day.
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#115 p4ddym
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Installs.
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#116 l-_-l
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Would you rather wait for install or switch a disc?

onewiththegame
I would rather do what I do now, which is install. Swapping disk is so last gen. And in the nd, swapping disl over and over again would take away from your gaming more than one install. But if people want to spend more time swapping disk instead of gaming, more power to them.
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#117 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

rastaman219

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

If you have money, wishing isn't needed. Just go buy a good PS3 game. Hell go buy a few good PS3 games like I did.
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#118 l-_-l
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

IronBass

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

who is this we

PS3 Fans

Nope, you got a game that was scored 10 by IGN and Gamespot.

That's what he just said. How you missed that is beyond me. You said the same thing he said, only you worded it different. But the end result was the same.
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#119 crunchUK
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[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

Nisim19

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

ture but since GS scores are law you just have to let the cows have their moment of euphoria.

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#120 NinjaMunkey01
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[QUOTE="Nisim19"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

crunchUK

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

ture but since GS scores are law you just have to let the cows have their moment of euphoria.

sorry but you cannot say any of those games are better than MGS4.

MGS4 is in a whole different leauge of great graphics, storytelling and gameplay. Those other games just cannot compete.

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#121 Javy03
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[QUOTE="Nisim19"]

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

crunchUK

ture but since GS scores are law you just have to let the cows have their moment of euphoria.

Its not just that all of those games have almost double the amount of reviews then MGS4. Maybe when MGS4 has 100 and something reviews its score will be higher but right now comparing it is far from logical.

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#122 epic_pets
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installs arent bad at all
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#123 masiisam
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[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="Nisim19"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

NinjaMunkey01

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

ture but since GS scores are law you just have to let the cows have their moment of euphoria.

sorry but you cannot say any of those games are better than MGS4.

MGS4 is in a whole different leauge of great graphics, storytelling and gameplay. Those other games just cannot compete.

:?

An opinion is subjective...

How can you say... you cant say one is better than the other..Then say one is better than the other..

I don't necessarily agree with the games he used...But if you are not a fan of Stealth action..How is MGS>Everthing?

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#124 Senor_Kami
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Switch disc. All the ones I played are done where there is no jumping back and forth. You just work your way through each disc. Wouldn't work in a sandbox game, but there are TONS of games that aren't sandbox.

[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"][QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="Nisim19"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"][QUOTE="rastaman219"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

Intalls.

But IF I was an Xbot fan, I would wish for a 10 game.

masiisam

Installs. But if i was a PS3 fan i would wish for a good game.

We got a 10 from IGN, and Gamespot, I think that represents a great game!

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

ture but since GS scores are law you just have to let the cows have their moment of euphoria.

sorry but you cannot say any of those games are better than MGS4.

MGS4 is in a whole different leauge of great graphics, storytelling and gameplay. Those other games just cannot compete.

:?

An opinion is subjective...

How can you say... you cant say one is better than the other..Then say one is better than the other..

I don't necessarily agree with the games he used...But if you are not a fan of Stealth action..How is MGS>Everthing?

What makes gamerankings cool is that they take into account alot of opinions from proffesional sites/mags and form general consensus. Thats way more telling than one score from one source... except for EGM since their reviews use like 4 different people.

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#125 jdang307
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Funny thing is, if MS had made a hard drive standard, you'd have installs and have to change disks. You think devs wouldn't want to have installs on 360 games as well? It would help them improve gameplay even more.
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#126 NaiKoN9293
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install. i wish xbox had mandatorry hdd so we could install there too
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#127 crispytheone88
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install. i wish xbox had mandatorry hdd so we could install there tooNaiKoN9293

Mutli disk, installs not only limit how many games you can pop in and play at any given time, it also eats up storage that could be used for music, movies, arcade or classic downloadable games, or demo downloads, installs fro consoles are terrible

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#128 imprezawrx500
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Switch disc of course... it's not like you finish a game everytime you turn on your console... LOL

Second, it doesn't load your hard drive making a tiny 20 gb 360 hard drive more efficient than a bigger ps3 harddrive... LOLOLOLL

Thats not being fanboyish like previously heard, just MORE practicle... Who's a fanboy now? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

usule

welcome to 500gb hdds being standard. why wait 4x as long for the game to load when you can have a one off 5-10min instalation?

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#129 imprezawrx500
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it takes 5sec to switch a disc, installs take alot longer

disc switch for me

onewiththegame

and hdds load games much faster than optical. cod4 on pc loads in the time it take you to put your disk in

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#130 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="hiryu3"]installs because it only needs to be done once if you get a big enough harddriveonewiththegame

but by the time your done one install I could have switched 10 dics if not more

but by the time you have put you cod4 disk in and loaded up a mp game I could have alread had 1-2mins of play

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#131 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="Javy03"][QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

Would you rather wait for install or switch a disc?

usule

Installs improve the load times and the quality in which the game runs. Multi disks is just a way to compensate for a smaller format and in no way improves games.

Why do people keep comparing them?

Hmmm, I thought it was to composate for the ps3 's poor blue ray drive uncapable to load fast enough... Thanks Sony!

dvd9 is very very very slow too. doom3 take 10 mins to load a level running off a 16x dvd, its the dev not the media

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#132 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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Depends. Do I get the benefit of never needing the disc again after the install?
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#133 imprezawrx500
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I'd rather have multiple discs. Installs fill uop the HDD too quicklyBuryMe

52 games installed and still over 200gb free, yeah fills up the hdd really fast

[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]Based on MGS4's installs, switching discs would have probably taken a couple minutes less than the installs took... but you would have had to get up from your seat and switch DVDs, meaning you would have used up more energy.Chaos_HL21

Yeah because getting up and walking to your console is a major workout. :P

Personally it doesn't matter that much. But if I had to pick one, it would have to be multi-discs.

do people like slow load times these days?

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#134 elektrixxx
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I don't think anyone would mind if they didn't take so damn long. They need to fix that crap.
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#135 blazinpuertoroc
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only if its one short install
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#136 user_nat
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Entirely depends on how its done for me.

If a game does anything similar to MGS4, definently not a fan of how it's installs work. Honestly, why do you need to install between levels? Why can't you install in the background behind all the cutscenes (and do loading for that matter)? But I don't really have a problem if a game has the option to be installed to enhance things. I do think that forcing an install takes away from being a console game. You should just be able to put the disc in and go.

Disc swaping is far from perfect also. If a game is a straight line linear thing, no problem (Lost Oddessy pretty much just switches discs for cutscences). Or if you want to put Multiplayer on one disc and Single player on another, thats not so bad (annoying though). However, if a game like GTA had disc swaping between islands or something, that would be a pain.

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#137 hiryu3
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[QUOTE="hiryu3"]installs because it only needs to be done once if you get a big enough harddriveonewiththegame

but by the time your done one install I could have switched 10 dics if not more

REally. What game is on the 360 that you would need to change the disk 10 times in 8 minutes?
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#138 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

[QUOTE="hiryu3"]installs because it only needs to be done once if you get a big enough harddrivehiryu3

but by the time your done one install I could have switched 10 dics if not more

REally. What game is on the 360 that you would need to change the disk 10 times in 8 minutes?

the 360 port of MGS4....I kid

not saying I would even need to just sayiing I would have the time

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#139 wklzip
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Installs. But switching disks also would work for me.

I demand a POLL!

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#140 Vaasman
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Both kinda suck, but swapping disks doesn't suck quite as much in my opinion, simply because I can still be playing the game right out of the box.
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#141 Albanian_Killa
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[QUOTE="crunchUK"][QUOTE="Nisim19"]

92 on GR ROFL

HALO 3 > MGS4

BIOSHOCK > MGS4

GEARS > MGS4

GTA IV > MGS4

by GR

Javy03

ture but since GS scores are law you just have to let the cows have their moment of euphoria.

Its not just that all of those games have almost double the amount of reviews then MGS4. Maybe when MGS4 has 100 and something reviews its score will be higher but right now comparing it is far from logical.

:lol: DUDE CAN I USE THAT SIG OMG HAHA

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#142 Xjner
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idk i did disk switches back in the ps1 days with FFVI i think it was time for a change and the installs did it.
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#143 slikonebtz
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it realy doesnt matter this is pathetic lol
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#144 onewiththegame
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idk i did disk switches back in the ps1 days with FFVI i think it was time for a change and the installs did it.Xjner

why change that but not the controller? j/k

installs just take to much time

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#145 onewiththegame
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it realy doesnt matter this is pathetic lolslikonebtz

Does anything to do with video games really matter? its just something to talk about

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#146 wwedx
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INStalls cuz u cant steal installs
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#147 deactivated-62b9a76fce1c1
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I don't think the reason that 360 would need disc changing is because it doesn't have installs, but because the discs are smaller

At the same time the PS3 doesn't not need game disc changes because it has install times, but because Blu-rays are bigger...?

so why are the 2 being compared??
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#148 subrosian
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How about neither? Whenever a game has any kind of load or install my GF says "shouldn't technology have gotten past this by now?" And she's right - cartridges had no load times, why now? Why load? Yes, I'm *well aware* of the technology-side answers to that question - but why accept a loading screen beyond a few seconds anymore at all? Here's looking at you Oblivion, Sonic the Hedgehog, and Halo 3 maps - what's the deal?