Investigative report: Microsoft announces games early!

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#1 Silverbond
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That's right, MS announces games early.

Halo 2, arguably the worst Halo ever, was announced in 2002! *gasp*

Halo 3 was announced in 2006! *doublegasp*

But, of course, this thread is not about bashing Halo. Halo is not the focus of this thread. *triplegasp*

A playable demo of Lost Odyssey was first available in 2006!

Alan Wake.

Too Human.

System Warriors: Silverbond, you've made your point! Please, we won't say MS doesn't announce stuff early anymore! :cry:

Me: Promise?

System Warriors: Promise.

Now, I know the rush of people coming will ":lol:" at my Wiki links, but I ask you: What would Wiki gain by skewering the announce date?

I ask you, why would a Sony fanboy mess with Wiki pages of these games when they could be bashing the 360? There is no plausible answer for that, friends.

Now, discuss.

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#2 SolidTy
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Don't forget Huxley and Too Human and a load of others.

Obviously Nintendo's guilty with Zelda : TP and Super Pario Mario, but it's all good.

Games aren't an exact science, so I don't blame any of the BIG THREE! :)

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#3 GreenGoblin2099
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One question: Are you prepared to be flamed by the lems??

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#4 Silverbond
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One question: Are you prepared to be flamed by the lems??

GreenGoblin2099

I was born prepared. 8)

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#5 bingbaocao
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at the time the original halo belonged to an independent Bungie, microsoft had nothing to do with it's accouncement
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#6 Giancar
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Don't forget Huxley and Too Human and a load of others.

Obviously Nintendo's guilty with Zelda : TP and Super Pario Mario, but it's all good.

Games aren't an exact science, so I don't blame any of the BIG THREE! :)

SolidTy

and the King of all ALAN WAIT!

but seriously all 3 companies sometimes announce certain games in early development status

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#7 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

One question: Are you prepared to be flamed by the lems??

Silverbond

I was born prepared. 8)

That a boy!!

@lems: GO,GO, GO!!!

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#8 killab2oo5
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I think the thing about Sony is them announcing games like...3 years early? Not saying I believe that or mind it, but that's what everyone else use as ammo...not 1 year early announcements.
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#9 Silverbond
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I think the thing about Sony is them announcing games like...3 years early? Not saying I believe that or mind it, but that's what everyone else use as ammo...not 1 year early announcements.killab2oo5

The only game that was announced a year early was Halo 3. :|

On my list anyway. >_>

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#10 BioShockOwnz
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So they announce game 2 years before they release? K. What's the problem.

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#11 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]I think the thing about Sony is them announcing games like...3 years early? Not saying I believe that or mind it, but that's what everyone else use as ammo...not 1 year early announcements.Silverbond

The only game that was announced a year early was Halo 3. :|

On my list anyway. >_>

Oohs, each 2 years early then?
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#12 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Mmmm. 2 years?
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#13 Silverbond
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So they announce game 2 years before they release? K. What's the problem.

BioShockOwnz

No problem. Merely pointing out MS does not release their games the year they're announced sometimes.

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#14 lawlessx
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recently they have been being very quiet about big titles(around 2007). they pretty much looked at what sony was doing and are trying to counter it.

i think microsoft will release they're lineup for 2009 Q4 and 2010 Q1-2 at this years E3..and will not show any big titles untill the following E3

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#15 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

So they announce game 2 years before they release? K. What's the problem.

No problem. Merely pointing out MS does not release their games the year they're announced.

Gears 2 was.
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#16 WilliamRLBaker
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1.halo wasn't announced it was shown.

2.halo 2 was released 2 years later

3.halo 3 was released a year after announcement

4.Lost odd was released a year later in jpn

5.Infinite undicovery was released 2 years later.

P.S:Infinite was produced by tri ace and published by square enix it was announced in famistu....doesn't seem to me that microsoft had any control over that announcement.

how many games has sony announced 3-4 years before release?

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#17 PAL360
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I think ppl are getting out of imagination when bashing the 360. First the "Halo3 only sold 10 million" thread and now this? :|

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#18 Silverbond
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I think ppl are getting out of imagination when bashing the 360. First the "Halo3 only sold 10 million" thread and now this? :|

PAL360

Wrong, my friend. I'm not, nor have I stated, that I'm bashing the 360.

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#19 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I think ppl are getting out of imagination when bashing the 360. First the "Halo3 only sold 10 million" thread and now this? :|

Silverbond

Wrong, my friend. I'm not nor have I stated that I'm bashing the 360.

you could at least edit the OP and remove both infinite undiscovery and the original halo
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#20 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

So they announce game 2 years before they release? K. What's the problem.

Silverbond

No problem. Merely pointing out MS does not release their games the year they're announced.

Of course both Sony and MS announce early, but I don't think the argument ever lies in absolutes. The number of MS games announced super early is less than Sony, and when announced early the lead time typically isn't as large. Now are there some outliers? yes. But the TYPICAL scenario has MS announcing fewer games early and not as early when they do.
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#21 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I think ppl are getting out of imagination when bashing the 360. First the "Halo3 only sold 10 million" thread and now this? :|

bingbaocao

Wrong, my friend. I'm not nor have I stated that I'm bashing the 360.

you could at least edit the OP and remove both infinite undiscovery and the original halo

Will do! :)

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#22 asylumni
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[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] you could at least edit the OP and remove both infinite undiscovery and the original haloSilverbond

Will do! :)

You could also add in Too Human, Wolfenstein and Splinter Cell 4 from X05. :D

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#23 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="bingbaocao"] you could at least edit the OP and remove both infinite undiscovery and the original haloasylumni

Will do! :)

You could also add in Too Human, Wolfenstein and Splinter Cell 4 from X05. :D

too human's been around since the 90's...
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#24 wolverine4262
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Killzone 2 was announced 4 years before it came out...
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#25 Steakdinner
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By definition, doesn't EVERYONE announce games early? :|

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#26 seannn199
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

One question: Are you prepared to be flamed by the lems??

Silverbond

I was born prepared. 8)

your post count is 1337 lol and yeah ms announces things early and sometimesthey dont like gears 2
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#27 Silverbond
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Killzone 2 was announced 4 years before it came out...wolverine4262

Yeah, it was.

But, I don't remember saying otherwise...

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#28 Dr_Snood
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Wasn't Halo Wars announced way before it was released?
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#29 -DrRobotnik-
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This is utterly irrelevant. Lems arent banking on MS announcing games for this year at E3 because of past trends. Theyre banking on this E3 because MS came out and said they have adopted a strategy now where they won't announce games too far in advance.

EDIT: Woop, damn caps lock

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#30 Silverbond
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This is utterly irrelevant. Lems arent banking on MS announcing games for this year at E3 because of past trends. Theyre banking on this E3 because MS came out and said they have adopted a strategy now where they won't announce games too far in advance.

EDIT: Woop, damn caps lock

-DrRobotnik-

Who mentioned E3?

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they're all guilty, though! Look at M.A.G., Heavy Rain, L.A. Noir..
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#32 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

This is utterly irrelevant. Lems arent banking on MS announcing games for this year at E3 because of past trends. Theyre banking on this E3 because MS came out and said they have adopted a strategy now where they won't announce games too far in advance.

EDIT: Woop, damn caps lock

Silverbond

Who mentioned E3?

Im not saying you did, but thats where this whole thing started. Lems saying just wait until E3 and cows saying theres no way a game announced at E3 will release this year. I fail to see the point you're trying to prove? Sure MS have announced games way back that STILL arent even released. But theyve also came out and said theyre are going to do E3 differently, so thats irrelevant.
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#33 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"]

This is utterly irrelevant. Lems arent banking on MS announcing games for this year at E3 because of past trends. Theyre banking on this E3 because MS came out and said they have adopted a strategy now where they won't announce games too far in advance.

EDIT: Woop, damn caps lock

Silverbond

Who mentioned E3?

lol mate, stop dancing like a little girl around the issue and get to the point you're obviously trying to make and that is:

if microsoft announce their games well in advance then it makes the current situation look like there is not much going for the 360 in the coming year or so!

We all know what you're trying to get at but like someone else already said previously, its all very irrelevant as MS have stated that they will purposely announce new titles nearer to release. You also said yourself, that MS "announce games early sometimes" :lol:

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#34 lolfaqs
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yup, this is another example of lemmings thinking that if they say things enough, it will make them true, such as saying M$ doesn't announce games early.

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#35 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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yup, this is another example of lemmings thinking that if they say things enough, it will make them true, such as saying M$ doesn't announce games early.

lolfaqs
Or saying that 30% attach rate is bad. Oh wait, that wasn't the "lemmings". Not even the "cows"...
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#36 DAZZER7
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yup, this is another example of lemmings thinking that if they say things enough, it will make them true, such as saying M$ doesn't announce games early.

lolfaqs

Sure, its inevitable that games get delayed or that publishers / devs choose to announce games early but generally speaking MS do a damn site better job than Sony in this area.

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#37 ActicEdge
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Every company does this. Who would say otherwise? Maybe people are just paranoid because Sony usually over shadows everyone in this area??? Still waiting for Kirby wii and Splinter cell though.

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#38 Giancar
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Every company does this. Who would say otherwise? Maybe people are just paranoid because Sony usually over shadows everyone in this area??? Still waiting for Kirby wii and Splinter cell though.

ActicEdge
was Kirby wii announced ? :shock:
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#39 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Every company does this. Who would say otherwise? Maybe people are just paranoid because Sony usually over shadows everyone in this area??? Still waiting for Kirby wii and Splinter cell though.

Giancar

was Kirby wii announced ? :shock:

Suspose to be this year according to nintendo's 2009release schedule but this was original a gamecube game and it was announced like 4 years ago or more if I'm right.

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#40 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Every company does this. Who would say otherwise? Maybe people are just paranoid because Sony usually over shadows everyone in this area??? Still waiting for Kirby wii and Splinter cell though.

ActicEdge

was Kirby wii announced ? :shock:

Suspose to be this year according to nintendo's 2009release schedule but this was original a gamecube game and it was announced like 4 years ago or more if I'm right.

are there any pics of the game? :P or something important?
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] was Kirby wii announced ? :shock:Giancar

Suspose to be this year according to nintendo's 2009release schedule but this was original a gamecube game and it was announced like 4 years ago or more if I'm right.

are there any pics of the game? :P or something important?

No, nothing more than an announcement it will be out this year. Don't get your hopes up though. This game has been delayed and disappeared a ridiculous amount of time. Pics would be a miracle.

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#42 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Suspose to be this year according to nintendo's 2009release schedule but this was original a gamecube game and it was announced like 4 years ago or more if I'm right.

ActicEdge

are there any pics of the game? :P or something important?

No, nothing more than an announcement it will be out this year. Don't get your hopes up though. This game has been delayed and disappeared a ridiculous amount of time. Pics would be a miracle.

awww crap :(
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Halo 2 >>> Halo 3
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[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Every company does this. Who would say otherwise? Maybe people are just paranoid because Sony usually over shadows everyone in this area??? Still waiting for Kirby wii and Splinter cell though.

ActicEdge

was Kirby wii announced ? :shock:

Suspose to be this year according to nintendo's 2009release schedule but this was original a gamecube game and it was announced like 4 years ago or more if I'm right.

what happened to that? i remember the GC one looking awesome...instead we got that stupid kirby racing game...WTH :cry:

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I think Microsoft spend all thier money on getting FFXII to be on their platform last year that they have no money to annouce anything new.

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I think Microsoft spend all thier money on getting FFXII to be on their platform last year that they have no money to annouce anything new.

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It's obviously this.

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#47 iam2green
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i don't' think so. i think every company at least announce one or two titles early but i think that sony is one that announces everything way to early. killzone 2 was announced around 2005/06 and it is just coming out back last month.
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#48 spike6566
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i always find it funny when lemmings make fun of sony annoucing games early, but for some strange reason forget that MS does the same. look at Too Human, i guess ALan wait doesnt ring a bell either.
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#49 Floppy_Jim
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Yeah, and every company does it at some point. You forgot Halo Wars and Fable 2, first shown 2 and a half years before they came out.