Ironically most of the Wii haters on this board will eventually buy a Wii

The Wii makes for an excellent back up console.  As the primary one, it fails compared to Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. 

That's why a lot of primary console owners will also buy a Wii. 

The Wii makes for an excellent back up console.  As the primary one, it fails compared to Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. 

That's why a lot of primary console owners will also buy a Wii. 

Donkey_Puncher

True, but combined that with the Wii being the casuals console this gen, Nintendo have a good chance. 

What WON'T happen next is me buying a Wii, because I am not a child.  I buy ONE console, ONE, because they're expensive, so I'll wait for a year till i see if the ps3 will pull out of its slump.  If not, then I'll get an xbox, even though Microsoft is a pretty evil company.  But I will never, ever get a Wii, because the Wii is for casual gamers and children.osirisomeomi

Im sorry, but i imagine you as an insecure teenager. If you think wiis bad because it is for 'children' then you aren't

a gamer. 

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

The Wii makes for an excellent back up console.  As the primary one, it fails compared to Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. 

That's why a lot of primary console owners will also buy a Wii. 

hyruledweller

True, but combined that with the Wii being the casuals console this gen, Nintendo have a good chance. 

I have no doubt that the Wii will place first this gen in sales, but not because of quality titles.  It sells to casuals.  It's cheaper and offers motion control, something that brings in women and non-gamers.  To anyone that considers themselves a true gamer, the Wii is a poor 1st choice or only console Choice.

I've seen the same thing happen too many times. Here's a little history lesson for you The PS2 was launched. Then came the GC and the Xbox. Nintendo fans claimed that the superior first party support and graphics of the GC would destroy the PS2. Microsoft fans claimed the online functionality and superior graphics of the Xbox would kill the PS2. and yet the PS2 continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the GC and XBox died off and the PS2 continued on. Third parties like Konami, Capcom, Sega et al started focusing on the PS2, and now it is considered the best console of last gen by a huge margin The DS was launched. Then came the PSP. Sony fans claimed that the superior graphics and "multimedia features" of the PSP would destroy the DS. and yet the DS continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the PSP started dying off and the DS continued on. Third parties like EA, Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft et al started focusing on the DS, and now it is widely considered the best handheld ever made and continues to outpace the PSP The Wii was launched. Then came the PS3, and the 360 had already been out for a year. Sony fans claimed that the superior power of the PS3 would destroy the Wii. Microsoft fans claimed the superior graphics and online of the 360 would kill the Wii. and yet the Wii continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. I wonder what will happen next.................NorthlandMan

wii just won't work ....... hopefully the general public will get over it soon and realize it's just a big gimmick(though i have to admit, the most well-done, awesome gimmick i've seen in a while). 

think about it this way. what if the DS had just been a touch screen? no conventional controls. there would have been like 2 good games for it then. 

yep its tree.tree-branch

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

The Wii makes for an excellent back up console. As the primary one, it fails compared to Xbox 360, PS3, and PC.

That's why a lot of primary console owners will also buy a Wii.

Donkey_Puncher

True, but combined that with the Wii being the casuals console this gen, Nintendo have a good chance.

I have no doubt that the Wii will place first this gen in sales, but not because of quality titles. It sells to casuals. It's cheaper and offers motion control, something that brings in women and non-gamers. To anyone that considers themselves a true gamer, the Wii is a poor 1st choice or only console Choice.

Not because of titles you don't see as quality titles. Some people see Wii Sports as one of the best games created this gen even if its not a "quality title". Anyway Metroid Prime 3, SSBB, SMG and FF CB are enough quality games for me, so thats why I bought the Wii. Let's not forget that when the Wii sales continue like this, the third party will jump on to the Wii and there will be more exclusive titles coming which means more quality titles just like the PS2.

I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.Vandalvideo

I'm going to guess that you sold your Wii so that you could profit from it, afterall the launch games weren't that impressive. And then maybe consider getting the Wii again once the big titles come out. 

The Wii makes for an excellent back up console.  As the primary one, it fails compared to Xbox 360, PS3, and PC. 

That's why a lot of primary console owners will also buy a Wii. 

Donkey_Puncher

true but the 360 is the leadTnasty11

But I will never, ever get a Wii, because the Wii is for casual gamers and children.osirisomeomi

[QUOTE="tree-branch"]yep its tree.jack_russel

:lol:

Phew...

I can say with complete confidence that I will never own a Wii.

When it eventually costs 150$, why wouldnt you buy it?

The Wii makes for an excellent back up console. As the primary one, it fails compared to Xbox 360, PS3, and PC.

That's why a lot of primary console owners will also buy a Wii.

Donkey_Puncher

Other than playing a few RTS's and WoW on the PC, Wii is my primary console... and I just got an HDTV and (although I agree some of the games on 360/PS3 look AMAZING) I still have no big urge to go out and buy either of the other consoles. 

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]I've seen the same thing happen too many times. Here's a little history lesson for you The PS2 was launched. Then came the GC and the Xbox. Nintendo fans claimed that the superior first party support and graphics of the GC would destroy the PS2. Microsoft fans claimed the online functionality and superior graphics of the Xbox would kill the PS2. and yet the PS2 continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the GC and XBox died off and the PS2 continued on. Third parties like Konami, Capcom, Sega et al started focusing on the PS2, and now it is considered the best console of last gen by a huge margin The DS was launched. Then came the PSP. Sony fans claimed that the superior graphics and "multimedia features" of the PSP would destroy the DS. and yet the DS continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the PSP started dying off and the DS continued on. Third parties like EA, Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft et al started focusing on the DS, and now it is widely considered the best handheld ever made and continues to outpace the PSP The Wii was launched. Then came the PS3, and the 360 had already been out for a year. Sony fans claimed that the superior power of the PS3 would destroy the Wii. Microsoft fans claimed the superior graphics and online of the 360 would kill the Wii. and yet the Wii continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. I wonder what will happen next.................mistervengeance

wii just won't work ....... hopefully the general public will get over it soon and realize it's just a big gimmick(though i have to admit, the most well-done, awesome gimmick i've seen in a while). 

think about it this way. what if the DS had just been a touch screen? no conventional controls. there would have been like 2 good games for it then. 

...but the wii has 'conventional controls,' an analog stick, a d-pad, a trigger etc? 

What WON'T happen next is me buying a Wii, because I am not a child.  I buy ONE console, ONE, because they're expensive, so I'll wait for a year till i see if the ps3 will pull out of its slump.  If not, then I'll get an xbox, even though Microsoft is a pretty evil company.  But I will never, ever get a Wii, because the Wii is for casual gamers and children.osirisomeomi

well I am not a child and a massive percentage of the wii owners on here ain't children. My little sisters who are 6 and 7 have a 360!! My uncle who is 40 has a wii as his primary console so that blows you litle "theory" out of the water!

Never had the urge to buy one, never will.Tarmgar

I've seen the same thing happen too many times. Here's a little history lesson for you The PS2 was launched. Then came the GC and the Xbox. Nintendo fans claimed that the superior first party support and graphics of the GC would destroy the PS2. Microsoft fans claimed the online functionality and superior graphics of the Xbox would kill the PS2. and yet the PS2 continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the GC and XBox died off and the PS2 continued on. Third parties like Konami, Capcom, Sega et al started focusing on the PS2, and now it is considered the best console of last gen by a huge margin The DS was launched. Then came the PSP. Sony fans claimed that the superior graphics and "multimedia features" of the PSP would destroy the DS. and yet the DS continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the PSP started dying off and the DS continued on. Third parties like EA, Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft et al started focusing on the DS, and now it is widely considered the best handheld ever made and continues to outpace the PSP The Wii was launched. Then came the PS3, and the 360 had already been out for a year. Sony fans claimed that the superior power of the PS3 would destroy the Wii. Microsoft fans claimed the superior graphics and online of the 360 would kill the Wii. and yet the Wii continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. I wonder what will happen next.................NorthlandMan

Lemme tell you what will happen next. I bought a PS3 and a PSP NOW. And next, I'm either going to forget consoles and handhelds exist and upgrade my PC to become Crysis-capable. If not, I will buy an Xbox 360 and play far superior and interesting games that I cannot play anywhere else...namely, Mass Effect. Mass Effect eliminates the possibility of me ever touching a Wii, therefore, it will stop there. 

I can say with complete confidence that I will never own a Wii.purplemidgets

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]I've seen the same thing happen too many times. Here's a little history lesson for you The PS2 was launched. Then came the GC and the Xbox. Nintendo fans claimed that the superior first party support and graphics of the GC would destroy the PS2. Microsoft fans claimed the online functionality and superior graphics of the Xbox would kill the PS2. and yet the PS2 continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the GC and XBox died off and the PS2 continued on. Third parties like Konami, Capcom, Sega et al started focusing on the PS2, and now it is considered the best console of last gen by a huge margin The DS was launched. Then came the PSP. Sony fans claimed that the superior graphics and "multimedia features" of the PSP would destroy the DS. and yet the DS continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the PSP started dying off and the DS continued on. Third parties like EA, Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft et al started focusing on the DS, and now it is widely considered the best handheld ever made and continues to outpace the PSP The Wii was launched. Then came the PS3, and the 360 had already been out for a year. Sony fans claimed that the superior power of the PS3 would destroy the Wii. Microsoft fans claimed the superior graphics and online of the 360 would kill the Wii. and yet the Wii continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. I wonder what will happen next.................hyruledweller

wii just won't work ....... hopefully the general public will get over it soon and realize it's just a big gimmick(though i have to admit, the most well-done, awesome gimmick i've seen in a while).

think about it this way. what if the DS had just been a touch screen? no conventional controls. there would have been like 2 good games for it then.

...but the wii has 'conventional controls,' an analog stick, a d-pad, a trigger etc?

yeah, but if you wanted to use it conventionally, why don't you buy a different console? you would get the better graphics too. 

I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.Vandalvideo

Thats what I don't understand. Why don't someone do there research before buying a system..

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]I've seen the same thing happen too many times. Here's a little history lesson for you The PS2 was launched. Then came the GC and the Xbox. Nintendo fans claimed that the superior first party support and graphics of the GC would destroy the PS2. Microsoft fans claimed the online functionality and superior graphics of the Xbox would kill the PS2. and yet the PS2 continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the GC and XBox died off and the PS2 continued on. Third parties like Konami, Capcom, Sega et al started focusing on the PS2, and now it is considered the best console of last gen by a huge margin The DS was launched. Then came the PSP. Sony fans claimed that the superior graphics and "multimedia features" of the PSP would destroy the DS. and yet the DS continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. Eventually the PSP started dying off and the DS continued on. Third parties like EA, Sega, Capcom, Ubisoft et al started focusing on the DS, and now it is widely considered the best handheld ever made and continues to outpace the PSP The Wii was launched. Then came the PS3, and the 360 had already been out for a year. Sony fans claimed that the superior power of the PS3 would destroy the Wii. Microsoft fans claimed the superior graphics and online of the 360 would kill the Wii. and yet the Wii continued to obliterate the competition sales wise. I wonder what will happen next.................mistervengeance

wii just won't work ....... hopefully the general public will get over it soon and realize it's just a big gimmick(though i have to admit, the most well-done, awesome gimmick i've seen in a while).

think about it this way. what if the DS had just been a touch screen? no conventional controls. there would have been like 2 good games for it then.

...but the wii has 'conventional controls,' an analog stick, a d-pad, a trigger etc?

yeah, but if you wanted to use it conventionally, why don't you buy a different console? you would get the better graphics too. 

The wiimote seems to be raking in more sales at the moment though. 

I suppose you never bought a PS2 or a DS either? Seriously, who cares about popularity and the subsequent developer support when you can pledge your undying devotion to a faceless corporation that doesn't even know you exist?NorthlandMan

Who says I devote my allegance to anyone? I go where the games I want are. Wii has none right now. And what kills it for the future is the motion controls.

I very much dislike them and don't think they're anywhere near to being ready for a permanent fixture into our home consoles.

And I also feel the Wii promotes stagnation of hardware. Because contrary to what Nintendo wants you to believe, complex and new hardware can be just as innovative as a new form of control input.

I bought my PS2 for MGS2 and got MGS3 as well. I bought the PS3 for MGS4.

I bought my PSP for MGS: PO, and it's subsequent sequels.

I would buy a DS if I see more games that I want... IE a new 2D Metroid game.  

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.Hockey_Slayer

Thats what I don't understand. Why don't someone do there research before buying a system..

[QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"] wii just won't work ....... hopefully the general public will get over it soon and realize it's just a big gimmick(though i have to admit, the most well-done, awesome gimmick i've seen in a while).

think about it this way. what if the DS had just been a touch screen? no conventional controls. there would have been like 2 good games for it then. mistervengeance

Seriously, the arguments against the Wii right now remind me a lot of the arguments against the DS a year ago. And we all know how that turned out.

you couldnt pay me to buy a Wii right now, i buy a console when it has the games i want. and they're not there on the Wii yet, but it would be foolish to say they werent comingNorthlandMan

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.  You wouldn't buy a console if someone PAID you?  You wouldn't accept a FREE console?

As a gamer I'll take any console someone else is willing to give me money for, even a Sega 32x.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.Hockey_Slayer

Thats what I don't understand. Why don't someone do there research before buying a system..

You seem to base your purchasing decisions almost entirely on the availibity of MGS games.NorthlandMan

Duh.

I on the other hand bought my PS2 for MGS3, SOTC, Ico, Okami, FF12, DQ 8 and numerous other quality titles. I bought my DS for DQ9, NSMB DS, Zelda, Metroid Prime Hunters, Advance Wars, Jagged Alliance, Picross and numerous other quality titles.NorthlandMan

Good for you, I don't care why you bought your consoles. I buy mine for the games I want, and the only game series I honest to god care about is MGS. All other game franchises are just icing on the cake, but if they weren't there I would still be perfectly happy with MGS.

The Wii arguably stagnates hardware, but at the same time who is to say that graphical fidelity is the be all and end all of videogames.NorthlandMan

It isn't, but I don't like the idea of not advancing them.

The wiimote is the most h-tech controller ever devised, and it has the potential to change the way we play games. To many people that's alot more exciting than sharper resolutions. You could make the argument that potentiall doesn't equal jack squat. But the Wii is still in its infancy, as is motion control along with it.NorthlandMan

Which is my point. Motion sensing is no where near being ready for what Nintendo wants. The Power Glove was a much more ambitious controller, but the technology wasn't there to back it up. With the Wii, you have a toned down Power Glove that does less because that's where technology meats the ideas. Untill we've reached the Minority Report level of motion sensing, I won't accept them as a permanent alternative.

And be honest, how many 360/PS3 games have you played that provide a noticeable generational improvement over last gen titles rather than just incremental improvements to the presentation. I for one have seen few titles on the 360 that have wowed me as much as Okami on the PS2NorthlandMan

I'm a realist, I don't expect to be AMAZED in the first legs of a generation. If it happens then great, but I don't knock a console just because it hasn't done it in it's first year or two.

And I can say the same thing about the Wii. I have played nothing on the Wii that is better than any of the great games of the past. They're just different, not better.

[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.Vandalvideo

Thats what I don't understand. Why don't someone do there research before buying a system..

[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.Vandalvideo

Thats what I don't understand. Why don't someone do there research before buying a system..

And you've been guilt ridden since, eh? 

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"] you couldnt pay me to buy a Wii right now, i buy a console when it has the games i want. and they're not there on the Wii yet, but it would be foolish to say they werent comingflinnha

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.  You wouldn't buy a console if someone PAID you?  You wouldn't accept a FREE console?

As a gamer I'll take any console someone else is willing to give me money for, even a Sega 32x.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.hyruledweller

Thats what I don't understand. Why don't someone do there research before buying a system..

[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]I purchased a Wii, and quickly traded it back in after realizing there were next to no games that interested me.Vandalvideo

Thats what I don't understand. Why don't someone do there research before buying a system..

And you've been guilt ridden since, eh? 

[QUOTE="purplemidgets"] NorthlandMan

You quoted nothing, haha. 

i think you're unwise to completely dismiss the Wii. Leaving aside the ridiculous sales of the machine and the constant reports of third parties shifting focus to the machine, at least Nintendo have decided to do something different this gen. Last gen the GC, the Xbox and the PS2 were all the same thing (except the PS2 was actually good). At least no-one is ever going to say that about the PS3/360 when comparing it to the WiiNorthlandMan

As I said before, different isn't always better. The Wii is a different, but not better. It's just different. 

If Nintendo had released the Wii with the motion sensing and designed a new traditional controller, but put large emphasis on the motion controls without making them near mandatory I might not be dismissing them. They've alienated me with the controls and the mentality the Wii is pushing. I don't want a family friendly console. I don't want a social party box. They've shown me nothing that proves they're verging away from that mentality. 

3rd parties are lining up for a reason, they're ready to make games for the motion controls. So all of that support is completly null invoid as far as I'm concerned. If given the choice right now of having an entire console generation of using the Wiimote and Nunchuck or a PS3/360 controller I'm going to go for the latter every time.