Ironically most of the Wii haters on this board will eventually buy a Wii

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]i think you're unwise to completely dismiss the Wii. Leaving aside the ridiculous sales of the machine and the constant reports of third parties shifting focus to the machine, at least Nintendo have decided to do something different this gen. Last gen the GC, the Xbox and the PS2 were all the same thing (except the PS2 was actually good). At least no-one is ever going to say that about the PS3/360 when comparing it to the Wiipurplemidgets

As I said before, different isn't always better. The Wii is a different, but not better. It's just different.

If Nintendo had released the Wii with the motion sensing and designed a new traditional controller, but put large emphasis on the motion controls without making them near mandatory I might not be dismissing them. They've alienated me with the controls and the mentality the Wii is pushing. I don't want a family friendly console. I don't want a social party box. They've shown me nothing that proves they're verging away from that mentality.

3rd parties are lining up for a reason, they're ready to make games for the motion controls. So all of that support is completly null invoid as far as I'm concerned. If given the choice right now of having an entire console generation of using the Wiimote and Nunchuck or a PS3/360 controller I'm going to go for the latter every time.

And yet...SSBB, SMG and MP3 are still going to be released
Shinobishyguy

SSBB is the epitome of that mentality. It's a multiplayer focused game.

You could throw as many games you want at me. I know all about them. I've seen countless screenshots and videos. But going back to one of posts. They use the motion controls, to they are null invoid as far as I'm concerned. 

True, I also find the mantra that motion controls are "teh future" a bit grating. Different does not equal better I disagree with your assertion that motion controls are "near mandatory" though. Alot of the improvements made to more established genres like FPS's and action Adventures are incremental at best (better aiming!!!). In that sense the wiimote/nucnhuck does a fine job of emulating most traditional controls. and why are you aliented by the fact that the Wii is centered on ease of use and fun for everyone? more people playing games = more money for devs = healtheir games industry = win win. Why are you so adamant that everyone whouldnt be allowed to enjoy gaming? the only way our hobby will be taken seriously is if everyone's doing it. Don't you look forward to the day that adults and kids of any age can tout playing videogames as a serious alternative to another leisure pursuit? dont you ever want to play games with your kids? This does not mean that "normal" games are going to die. Red Steel and Zelda have both sold well over a million copies. Hideo Kojima, Yasumi Matsuno, Will Wright are all developing for the Wii as well and you can bet your bottom dollar they wont be makig minigame colelctions. At the end of the day "casual" games will form a small part of the Wii's software library just as they do with the DS. And like the DS i expect that the vast majority of games will be just that, albeit with interesting twists ike you i have yet to see much from third parties that shows any promise. But i am not naive enough to think it isn't coming. just like the DS and the PS2 the wii will take a while to ge started. and those are my favourite handheld and console respectivelyNorthlandMan

I don't care about what other people want or like. I buy things for my own benefit. That's why I bought the PS3 and 360. 

They benefit my gaming needs, and the Wii doesn't and won't. I don't care if Nintendo is trying to expand the market, that doesn't somehow make their console better. 

"Why are you so adamant that everyone whouldnt be allowed to enjoy gaming?"

I'm not, the Wii is exactly that. It's mass appeal for the mainstream. But that doesn't interest me in the slightest. I don't want that, so I don't buy it. 

"Don't you look forward to the day that adults and kids of any age can tout playing videogames as a serious alternative to another leisure pursuit? dont you ever want to play games with your kids? "

They can do that now, anyone can play games if they so desire. If I have kids (which is a big if, and another arguement for another date) I will play the games they want regardless of my own enjoyment, that's what a good parent does. But hopefully the games will cater to my interests as well.

The rest of your post goes on about how normal games won't go away, which I never said would happen. But as I've said a few times already, the controller kills any interest I have. I will not debate that any further. It's my own opinion. I don't like the Wiimote and Nunchuck as a primary form of input. I don't want to spend a lengthy amount of time using them to play a single player game. 

wanna know why i wont be gettin a wii...

wii-mote....as a kid id get board of toys so i will with that one;)

the wii cant play dvds.....nex-gen did u say?!?

mario.....URHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

why do you "hate" the wii.

why do you hate an object, a product.

must be easy for you to hate.

do you hate people too?

are you one of those obeese people that hate everyone and everythings and manage to find something to yell at people who work in the drive thrus just because they can get away with it...and act all sarcastic and sadistic...as if they understand everything and they dont do anything wrong themselves....

you know what i mean?

why do you "hate" the wii.

why do you hate an object, a product.

must be easy for you to hate.

do you hate people too?

are you one of those obeese people that hate everyone and everythings and manage to find something to yell at people who work in the drive thrus just because they can get away with it...and act all sarcastic and sadistic...as if they understand everything and they dont do anything wrong themselves....

you know what i mean?

anasbouzid

thats like saying why do we hate Americans or chat shows.... they dont affect us, we just hate them

hahaha, ironically most of the Wii haters probably already have a Wii.

That could be the reason they are so disgruntled.

hahaha, ironically most of the Wii haters probably already have a Wii.

That could be the reason they are so disgruntled.

darthogre

But then again most of the people who talk bad about the PS3/360 will probably own one sooner or later also......For any that say they wil never own one "which is what I said about the XBox" wait untill you have a kid that wants to play a game only on that system

But it was worth it I got to play SW:KOTOR 

why do you "hate" the wii.

why do you hate an object, a product.

must be easy for you to hate.

do you hate people too?

are you one of those obeese people that hate everyone and everythings and manage to find something to yell at people who work in the drive thrus just because they can get away with it...and act all sarcastic and sadistic...as if they understand everything and they dont do anything wrong themselves....

you know what i mean?

anasbouzid

Very true...hyruledweller

How did you get your SMS code? Bahh!

I want that game :cry: 

sorry but but I like good graphics

...the wii will never appeal to me

No....I will not.:| The only games that I would even remotely want to play on the Wii is MP3, Manhunt 2, and RE4. But I plan on getting the PS2 version of Manhunt 2, and I already own RE4 for the PS2 as well, lol. So that leaves me with only MP3. But I am hardly going to buy a Wii just for that one game.

Sorry, but the Wii does not even come close to appealing to me. I learned the hard way with the GC, which had only about 4 games that I wanted throughout it's entire lifespan. Eternal Darkness, MP 1&2, and RE4 which I eventually bought for my PS2, lol. PS2 and Xbox got ALL of my playing time, while the GC just sat there until I eventually sold the thing.

As far as my taste in games go, I look at the Wii and see GC all over again, just with a different controller, and more of a focus on cheap, casual games. No thanks, I will stick with PS3, and the 360, both of which have hordes of games coming out that I actually want to PLAY.;) 

No....I will not.:| The only games that I would even remotely want to play on the Wii is MP3, Manhunt 2, and RE4. But I plan on getting the PS2 version of Manhunt 2, and I already own RE4 for the PS2 as well, lol. So that leaves me with only MP3. But I am hardly going to buy a Wii just for that one game.

Sorry, but the Wii does not even come close to appealing to me. I learned the hard way with the GC, which had only about 4 games that I wanted throughout it's entire lifespan. Eternal Darkness, MP 1&2, and RE4 which I eventually bought for my PS2, lol. PS2 and Xbox got ALL of my playing time, while the GC just sat there until I eventually sold the thing.

As far as my taste in games go, I look at the Wii and see GC all over again, just with a different controller, and more of a focus on cheap, casual games. No thanks, I will stick with PS3, and the 360, both of which have hordes of games coming out that I actually want to PLAY.;) 

ironcreed

Wasnt too hot on the GC, and i am not too enamoured with the Wii either. But you have to look at things objectively. We already know that third party support on the Wii is constantly improving. 

 NorthlandMan

The question is what kind of games are they going to be making for the Wii?  It's a no brainer they will start to make games BUT the feeling I get from developers is they think only these werid instant gratifcation party type games (as well as the younger type games) will work well with the Wii. 

I don't see devs like GrandTheft Auto stating the Wii seems to be the place for that type of game.  Games like Assasins Creed is not coming out on the Wii and that is being made from an extremely big supporter of Wii (Ubisoft). 

My general impression is you will see quick, cheap games skewed towards the non-gamers as well as some casual gamers.  It does look like the GameCube all over again from a software standpoint.  The only difference is the Wii has attracted a new audience that is enamored with the new control scheme (for now at least).  In the end you might have more variety than GameCube software provided but don't expect the games to compare with X360/PS3 because they will be targeted at a different audience.

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]

No....I will not.:| The only games that I would even remotely want to play on the Wii is MP3, Manhunt 2, and RE4. But I plan on getting the PS2 version of Manhunt 2, and I already own RE4 for the PS2 as well, lol. So that leaves me with only MP3. But I am hardly going to buy a Wii just for that one game.

Sorry, but the Wii does not even come close to appealing to me. I learned the hard way with the GC, which had only about 4 games that I wanted throughout it's entire lifespan. Eternal Darkness, MP 1&2, and RE4 which I eventually bought for my PS2, lol. PS2 and Xbox got ALL of my playing time, while the GC just sat there until I eventually sold the thing.

As far as my taste in games go, I look at the Wii and see GC all over again, just with a different controller, and more of a focus on cheap, casual games. No thanks, I will stick with PS3, and the 360, both of which have hordes of games coming out that I actually want to PLAY.;) 

NorthlandMan

I understand exactly what you mean, and I am indeed looking at the Wii objectively, but GAMES are something that is subjective, and are completely based on one's preferences. As things stand now for me personally, the appeal is just not there at all. But I am not so closed minded as to believe that there will not be better games on the Wii....of course there will be. However, I still think that there will be an even larger focus on cheap, casual games then there was with the GC, as that is the Wii's definitive target market by and large.

So, as far as the Wii stands now, as well as the forecast for the foreseeable future goes, the Wii is pretty much the opposite of what I want from gaming personally. The first party titles absolutely do not appeal to me anymore, and there is no QUALITY third party support to speak of as of yet. There will be better support of course, but I do not foresee it being on the level of quality of the games that I will be playing on my PS3, and 360. That is just my personal preference though.

Again, content (games) are a completely subjective thing. All three consoles will offer plenty in terms of content. Which one appeals to you is completely subjective and is purely subject to personal preference. Even if Nintendo eventually does indeed end up with the most overall content due to leading the market....who is to say that the content will not just consist of 80-90% first party Mario, and Donkey Kong type games, along with cheap, casual mini games like Cooking Mama, Raving Rabbids, Brain Age, ect. in order to appease the larger portion of the user base, which is of course the target market consisting of casuals and non-gamers?

The Wii is just not, nor do I foresee it ever being my cup of tea. And no, I will not eventually give in and buy one just because "it is popular", either. I base my purchases based on what appeals to me on a personal level, not on what trends the status quo is following as the "next big thing".

The Wii makes for an excellent back up console. As the primary one, it fails compared to Xbox 360, PS3, and PC.

That's why a lot of primary console owners will also buy a Wii.

Donkey_Puncher

Exactly.  

I gave mine away.... :Dmiss_kitt3n

Instead of selling it on eBay? Yeah I know you're joking but seriously it was a terrible joke lol

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="hyruledweller"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"] wii just won't work ....... hopefully the general public will get over it soon and realize it's just a big gimmick(though i have to admit, the most well-done, awesome gimmick i've seen in a while).

think about it this way. what if the DS had just been a touch screen? no conventional controls. there would have been like 2 good games for it then. Hoffgod

Seriously, the arguments against the Wii right now remind me a lot of the arguments against the DS a year ago. And we all know how that turned out.

let me rephrase that. the wii doesn't have conventional controls that enable to use itas you do the other 2 consoles. theds you can use as a gameboy, you can't use a wii as a gamecube controller(effectively anyways)