Is an Xbone niche console outside the U.S. and the UK?

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Poll Is an Xbone niche console outside the U.S. and the UK? (62 votes)

yes 69%
no 31%

Well, what do you think? Is it fair to call it "niche" outside these markets?

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#1 deactivated-5b0367b217732
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Yes, very much so. At least where I live.

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#2  Edited By Shewgenja
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It's a niche console inside the US and UK, too. One good holiday season doesn't make something the norm. Especially given the fire sale on the thing when that sales bump occurred.

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Canada?

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#4  Edited By Shewgenja
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The only reason why the XBone has an existence at all is due to the toxic press and rhetoric that was prevalent in the US during the PS3 years. Some die-hards decided they were going to hate the Playstation and go with the XBox based on hipster-cool factor consumerism. For those people, Bill Gates could bend over on stage and let loose a shit with the consistency of tapioca at E3 calling it the new Xbox, and they would buy it.

Unfortunately, the Bone has about one more helping of that fanbase to bite into with the next Halo game and the ride is over. I honestly doubt they will have the same run this November and December in NPD that they enjoyed last year when they cut the price of their machine by $150 and bundled at least $120 more in software with the effing thing. They've been banging away all year at their shift light with the price drops and re-bundles trying to stay relevant. That motor does not have much mileage left in it.

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@Shewgenja: Was thinking the same thing myself.

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@Shewgenja said:

It's a niche console inside the US and UK, too. One good holiday season doesn't make something the norm. Especially given the fire sale on the thing when that sales bump occurred.

What I was thinking....

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#7 Suppaman100
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Define niche first.

In the true meaning of the word, the Xbone is not niche in the west at all.

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Yup.

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@Shewgenja said:

It's a niche console inside the US and UK, too. One good holiday season doesn't make something the norm. Especially given the fire sale on the thing when that sales bump occurred.

So predictable... They've got 30-40% of the sales in the US.... That's not niche

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In my country?

Urband legends of people owning it , and even more weird , not owning a second console or PC , just the Xbone.

Creepy.

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Not really.

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#13  Edited By deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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I honestly doubt they will have the same run this November and December in NPD that they enjoyed last year

Hahahahaha, man you are blind. Sony has barely any game that has a lot of hype surrounding it, and everyone is looking forward to. While Microsoft has Forza 6, Halo 5, and next Tomb Raider. Combine that with the backwards compatibility, and that they will cut the price down again for 50-100$, they will easily get those numbers. They have been doing better than previous year, each month, and that will suddenly stop.

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#14  Edited By deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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The definition of what "niche" means will be completely tarnished and utterly destroyed in this thread.

Clear out!

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@Shewgenja said:

The only reason why the XBone has an existence at all is due to the toxic press and rhetoric that was prevalent in the US during the PS3 years. Some die-hards decided they were going to hate the Playstation and go with the XBox based on hipster-cool factor consumerism. For those people, Bill Gates could bend over on stage and let loose a shit with the consistency of tapioca at E3 calling it the new Xbox, and they would buy it.

Unfortunately, the Bone has about one more helping of that fanbase to bite into with the next Halo game and the ride is over. I honestly doubt they will have the same run this November and December in NPD that they enjoyed last year when they cut the price of their machine by $150 and bundled at least $120 more in software with the effing thing. They've been banging away all year at their shift light with the price drops and re-bundles trying to stay relevant. That motor does not have much mileage left in it.

....You try to sound like your words have weight...but it doesn't.

The difference in sales between the PS4 and Xbox One isn't gigantic to the point where you can say Xbox One will become irrelevant......

It must be your lack of perspective intelligence. You must have some weird diagram in your head with PS4 sales way at the top and Xbox One and Wii U sales way at the bottom. Intensified differences because the one has a Playstation logo. Are you even aware that you are being rhetorical ?

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#16  Edited By Shewgenja
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@acp_45 said:

....You try to sound like your words have weight...but it doesn't.

The difference in sales between the PS4 and Xbox One isn't gigantic to the point where you can say Xbox One will become irrelevant......

It must be your lack of perspective intelligence. You must have some weird diagram in your head with PS4 sales way at the top and Xbox One and Wii U sales way at the bottom. Intensified differences because the one has a Playstation logo. Are you even aware that you are being rhetorical ?

Are you aware it took almost 9 months for the Bone to have an exclusive this year?

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@Shewgenja said:
@acp_45 said:

....You try to sound like your words have weight...but it doesn't.

The difference in sales between the PS4 and Xbox One isn't gigantic to the point where you can say Xbox One will become irrelevant......

It must be your lack of perspective intelligence. You must have some weird diagram in your head with PS4 sales way at the top and Xbox One and Wii U sales way at the bottom. Intensified differences because the one has a Playstation logo. Are you even aware that you are being rhetorical ?

Are you aware it took almost 9 months for the Bone to have an exclusive this year?

Yes I'm aware.... Does that make it potentially irrelevant ?

Are you aware that 2016 will have a lot of Xbox One exclusives releasing in shorter slots ?

Doesn't that count ?

Take a look at Q3/Q4 of 2015 all the way through to Q2 of 2016 maybe even Q3 2016.

The fact that it didn't have exclusives for so long and now their popping off should actually make you think otherwise than you are.

Consoles don't become irrelevant as soon as they start releasing exclusives....

How do you even get to that answer?

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#18  Edited By Shewgenja
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@acp_45 said:

Yes I'm aware.... Does that make it potentially irrelevant ?

Are you aware that 2016 will have a lot of Xbox One exclusives releasing in shorter slots ?

Doesn't that count ?

Take a look at Q3/Q4 of 2015 all the way through to Q2 of 2016 maybe even Q3 2016.

The fact that it didn't have exclusives for so long and now their popping off should actually make you think otherwise than you are.

Consoles don't become irrelevant as soon as they start releasing exclusives....

How do you even get to that answer?

Perhaps the word irrelevant is a stretch? The GameCube wasn't irrelevant. It just wasn't necessarily relevant. Relevant platforms don't need to take $200-$300 nosedives before their first birthday. It's not a hard concept to understand. Lord knows, it's not a concept lost on the big publishers. We all know where Titanfall 2 is gonna drop.

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#19  Edited By kingtito
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I see cowgenja still butthurt over not getting that apology.

A console selling over 10+ million, almost all being in NA and UK, is irrelevant in NA and UK? Do you realize how asinine that sounds cowgenja? We know we get it, the XOne isn't selling as well as the PS4. That doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja, especially with the upcoming games.

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#20  Edited By deactivated-5a44ec138c1e6
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@Shewgenja said:
@acp_45 said:

Yes I'm aware.... Does that make it potentially irrelevant ?

Are you aware that 2016 will have a lot of Xbox One exclusives releasing in shorter slots ?

Doesn't that count ?

Take a look at Q3/Q4 of 2015 all the way through to Q2 of 2016 maybe even Q3 2016.

The fact that it didn't have exclusives for so long and now their popping off should actually make you think otherwise than you are.

Consoles don't become irrelevant as soon as they start releasing exclusives....

How do you even get to that answer?

Perhaps the word irrelevant is a stretch? The GameCube wasn't irrelevant. It just wasn't necessarily relevant. Relevant platforms don't need to take $200-$300 nosedives before their first birthday. It's not a hard concept to understand. Lord knows, it's not a concept lost on the big publishers. We all know where Titanfall 2 is gonna drop.

Well at least you are making sense now....

I agree with you on the Xbox One dropping in price... It's actually a cheap move from MS.

They can start with a high price and then slowly drop it as sales start to hit a certain amount...say every 500K sales, they drop it a bit. But they'll stop eventually.... When they find the perfect spot where they can still satisfy their greed but still look rational in their price. Smart moves. Yes, indeed. Well at least they are starting to prove themselves with backwards compatibility with no additional cost, you just need Gold Subscription.

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#21 Shewgenja
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@kingtito said:

I see cowgenja still butthurt over not getting that apology.

A console selling over 10+ million, almost all being in NA and UK, is irrelevant in NA and UK? Do you realize how asinine that sounds cowgenja? We know we get it, the XOne isn't selling as well as the PS4. That doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja, especially with the upcoming games.

Let's see. You have, what, one third party exclusive coming from Platinum and then?

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No, but is Sony a Japanese company?

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@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:

I see cowgenja still butthurt over not getting that apology.

A console selling over 10+ million, almost all being in NA and UK, is irrelevant in NA and UK? Do you realize how asinine that sounds cowgenja? We know we get it, the XOne isn't selling as well as the PS4. That doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja, especially with the upcoming games.

Let's see. You have, what, one third party exclusive coming from Platinum and then?

Serious? You forget about all of 2016 games coming? Is the XOne going to lack games to play? Aren't 90%+ multiplats anyway? Explain how that makes the XOne irrelevant. Yeah yeah I know butthurt and all, no apology and less sales than PS4. Still doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja.

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#24  Edited By isturbo1984
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Seems that way. At this point, I'm not sure I would like things to change. The Xbox brand deserves to get more sales, but I really like how things are with the console. Its getting a ton on internet support and fan service that is awesome. Killer apps. amazing updates and features.... and awesome exclusives. It they got more popular, I'm afraid it would turn into another bro console. In a way, the XOne is the console version of the Vita... lol.

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Are you alright buddy? the only reason the Xbox is doing as well as it is is because of bad sony press in the 360/PS3 era?? It is quite clear the reason why the xbox One is doing as bad as it has been has nothing to do with Sony. It is because of the bad press it earned during the the leaks about the console before E3 and then their E3 announcement prior to their 180. I mean, rightly deserved. it was a fucking disaster. But there are so many morons today that still look at the Xbox as that same machine and just love to talk shit. some actually think it is still a DRM machine.

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#26 Shewgenja
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@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:

I see cowgenja still butthurt over not getting that apology.

A console selling over 10+ million, almost all being in NA and UK, is irrelevant in NA and UK? Do you realize how asinine that sounds cowgenja? We know we get it, the XOne isn't selling as well as the PS4. That doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja, especially with the upcoming games.

Let's see. You have, what, one third party exclusive coming from Platinum and then?

Serious? You forget about all of 2016 games coming? Is the XOne going to lack games to play? Aren't 90%+ multiplats anyway? Explain how that makes the XOne irrelevant. Yeah yeah I know butthurt and all, no apology and less sales than PS4. Still doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja.

Soooo, not one third party exclusive other than one that was announced months and months ago. Cool story.

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#27 Shewgenja
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@isturbo1984 said:

@Shewgenja

Are you alright buddy? the only reason the Xbox is doing as well as it is is because of bad sony press in the 360/PS3 era?? It is quite clear the reason why the xbox One is doing as bad as it has been has nothing to do with Sony. It is because of the bad press it earned during the the leaks about the console before E3 and then their E3 announcement prior to their 180. I mean, rightly deserved. it was a fucking disaster. But there are so many morons today that still look at the Xbox as that same machine and just love to talk shit. some actually think it is still a DRM machine.

Perhaps, they should have apologized for more than the messaging.

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#28  Edited By isturbo1984
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@Shewgenja said:
@isturbo1984 said:

@Shewgenja

Are you alright buddy? the only reason the Xbox is doing as well as it is is because of bad sony press in the 360/PS3 era?? It is quite clear the reason why the xbox One is doing as bad as it has been has nothing to do with Sony. It is because of the bad press it earned during the the leaks about the console before E3 and then their E3 announcement prior to their 180. I mean, rightly deserved. it was a fucking disaster. But there are so many morons today that still look at the Xbox as that same machine and just love to talk shit. some actually think it is still a DRM machine.

Perhaps, they should have apologized for more than the messaging.

I agree. It was such a colossal fuckup. Thank God for Phil Spencer... if he wasnt available to turn it around, i dont know who could. More apology should have been given. but at this point that is all they can do than what they already are. whether it was a flop at the beginning or not... or no matter the bad press it received, the fact is it is a great machine with great games and features. a console doesnt deserve bad press and lies being spun about it just because it had a bad start. or because not enough fucks were sorried after the fact. you came out saying in an earlier post, that in spite of it being a good machine, the only reason why it is selling at all is because of bad Sony press last gen. not only does that not make sense, but you are contradicting yourself.

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Weirdos only buy Xbox in my country.

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A niche console? What exactly does that even mean, I'm sure it's some negative perception on the console. But I think a console that's selling more than it's previous counterpart at this same amount of time, selling over 10 million units in 2 years, having a great holiday of 1st and 3rd party games, having quite a few 1st party games as well as most 3rd party games in 2016 and now integration of Windows 10 into it's U.I. would be called a "niche" console.

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#31  Edited By kingtito
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@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:
@Shewgenja said:
@kingtito said:

I see cowgenja still butthurt over not getting that apology.

A console selling over 10+ million, almost all being in NA and UK, is irrelevant in NA and UK? Do you realize how asinine that sounds cowgenja? We know we get it, the XOne isn't selling as well as the PS4. That doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja, especially with the upcoming games.

Let's see. You have, what, one third party exclusive coming from Platinum and then?

Serious? You forget about all of 2016 games coming? Is the XOne going to lack games to play? Aren't 90%+ multiplats anyway? Explain how that makes the XOne irrelevant. Yeah yeah I know butthurt and all, no apology and less sales than PS4. Still doesn't make it irrelevant cowgenja.

Soooo, not one third party exclusive other than one that was announced months and months ago. Cool story.

Sooooo, will it lack games? Soooooo does that make the console that's sold MILLIONS in NA and the UK irrelevant? Soooooo is only 1 exclusive coming out? QB, H5...ect not to mention the just released F6?

Yeah yeah I know you're still butthurt and pathetic. Keep waiting for that apology cowgenja.

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In my country atleast I can safely say that it is indeed a niche console.

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#33  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Pretty much.

Microsoft are good at software... but they just don't have the worldwide brand power.... (strictly speaking xbox here, not windows)

Their best hope is going the steam method... however... then they are competing with steam..... which they will fail at.

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Now that the new AppleTV is a game console, the fat lady is singing on this niche brand.

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It's starting to become a niche now in the UK.

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@Shewgenja said:

The only reason why the XBone has an existence at all is due to the toxic press and rhetoric that was prevalent in the US during the PS3 years. Some die-hards decided they were going to hate the Playstation and go with the XBox based on hipster-cool factor consumerism. For those people, Bill Gates could bend over on stage and let loose a shit with the consistency of tapioca at E3 calling it the new Xbox, and they would buy it.

Unfortunately, the Bone has about one more helping of that fanbase to bite into with the next Halo game and the ride is over. I honestly doubt they will have the same run this November and December in NPD that they enjoyed last year when they cut the price of their machine by $150 and bundled at least $120 more in software with the effing thing. They've been banging away all year at their shift light with the price drops and re-bundles trying to stay relevant. That motor does not have much mileage left in it.

Have you ever made a prediction that came true? You're like the Michael Pachter of SW.

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I voted no simply because the XB1 is outselling the PS4 in South America. It also sells pretty good in Canada as well, along with Australia.

The only place that I would consider it "niche", is in mainland Europe.

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#38  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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No.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Shewgenja said:

It's a niche console inside the US and UK, too. One good holiday season doesn't make something the norm. Especially given the fire sale on the thing when that sales bump occurred.

What I was thinking....

How is it niche in the US and UK? It's literally trailing the PlayStation 4 in those regions by hundreds of thousands of units, not millions. If the Xbox One is niche in the US and UK then so is the PlayStation 4...

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@Shewgenja said:

The only reason why the XBone has an existence at all is due to the toxic press and rhetoric that was prevalent in the US during the PS3 years. Some die-hards decided they were going to hate the Playstation and go with the XBox based on hipster-cool factor consumerism. For those people, Bill Gates could bend over on stage and let loose a shit with the consistency of tapioca at E3 calling it the new Xbox, and they would buy it.

Just accept that the PS3 was doing bad compared to the 360 for ALOT of years. That's why it's here. Also 599 US dollars

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Thats like saying Ford is a niche car company because they dont sell as many cars as Toyota.

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#42 NyaDC
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@oflow said:

Thats like saying Ford is a niche car company because they dont sell as many cars as Toyota.

Should have said "because they don't sell as many cars in Europe and Asia", but I get the point.

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#43 R4gn4r0k
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No, something like the OUYA is a niche console.

Ask gamers from Europe, Asia or Africa if they know the Xbox One, most will know it = not niche.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

No, something like the OUYA is a niche console.

Ask gamers from Europe, Asia or Africa if they know the Xbox One, most will know it = not niche.

Yeah, that's why it's obvious he's using the word "niche" as a negative towards the Xbox but by the definitely of the word, people worldwide knows what the Xbox is, making it the opposite of a "niche" console.

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#45 Douevenlift_bro
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It's a niche console here in the U.S too. Fire sales and random spikes without any consistency

Clearly a niche product.

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@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

No, something like the OUYA is a niche console.

Ask gamers from Europe, Asia or Africa if they know the Xbox One, most will know it = not niche.

Yeah, that's why it's obvious he's using the word "niche" as a negative towards the Xbox but by the definitely of the word, people worldwide knows what the Xbox is, making it the opposite of a "niche" console.

Why is niche automatically mean negative? It doesn't you know.

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#47  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@BigShotSmoov007 said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

No, something like the OUYA is a niche console.

Ask gamers from Europe, Asia or Africa if they know the Xbox One, most will know it = not niche.

Yeah, that's why it's obvious he's using the word "niche" as a negative towards the Xbox but by the definitely of the word, people worldwide knows what the Xbox is, making it the opposite of a "niche" console.

Why is niche automatically mean negative? It doesn't you know.

Seriously, only on SW would you see a product falling into a market categorization used as a negative.

There's so many dumb fucking people on this site.

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#48  Edited By Megavideogamer
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Xbox one is strong in Mexico, Brazil and Canada in addition to Xbox brand doing well in the U.K and U,.S..A The Xbox brand is mostly a niche brand in other regions. So Microsoft does have some countries were the Xbox brand is strong. Australia could have been a MS stronghold but the exchange rate is unfavourable.

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#49 misterpmedia
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Sales answer this question, you didn't need a poll topic.