Is Call of Duty a series for casual gamers?

you are playing on pc. its extremely easy to play a shooter with mouse and keyboard. Androvinus

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The control scheme makes the difference between a core and a casual game, right :roll: ?

[QUOTE="iammason"]

'Hardcore' and 'hard' are not the same thing.

[QUOTE="iammason"]Call of Duty is fairly hard core in it's own rights. Those who say it's casual are just haters since the game is so mainstream now. I'm not even going to bother voting because it's obviously a land slide vote. And if it was that casual, my fiance would be able to play. And what's wrong with a linear game? Just because you don't get to make a choice, doesn't make it a terrible game.DraugenCP

About the linearity. That doesn't indicate a game being casual in itself, but the hand holding way in which CoD does it is. Moreover, there's a big difference between linear games that subtlely push you in the right direction (Half-Life 2) and games that violently push you into the only right path as every alternative route is blocked off by machine gun turrets and even invisible walls.

Also, I don't think 'casual' necessarily means that anyone can play it. It depends entirely on your definition, but I usually see casual gamers as people who don't spend a lot of time gaming, and only stick to familiar blockbuster titles such as Halo, GTA, and indeed CoD. I'd classify people who usually never even go near video games as non-gamers.

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[QUOTE="YuriSH"]No it is not. Just because it's easy to play for you guys doesn't mean it's easy for casuals. They tend to have lack of coordination when dealing with controllers and I've seen this plenty of times to know it isn't as casual as people think it is. Games like Duck Hunt and Time Crisis I'd say is more casual than CoDAndrovinus

It's easy to play for my CLASSMATES. People who has never, ever, touched a game, and only tried it with my laptop at school.

If you really believe it's not casual, then you should check how in touch with reality you are.

[QUOTE="YuriSH"]No it is not. Just because it's easy to play for you guys doesn't mean it's easy for casuals. They tend to have lack of coordination when dealing with controllers and I've seen this plenty of times to know it isn't as casual as people think it is. Games like Duck Hunt and Time Crisis I'd say is more casual than CoDN30F3N1X

It's easy to play for my CLASSMATES. People who has never, ever, touched a game, and only tried it with my laptop at school.

If you really believe it's not casual, then you should check how in touch with reality you are.

[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]If being easy to pick up and play means it's for casuals, then sure...YuriSH

Well yes this could be another possibility. It being "casual", as in making it casual by force :twisted:

So if easy to pick=casual and CoD=easy to pick, then CoD=casual.

This is fact, since it follows logic.;)

you are playing on pc. its extremely easy to play a console shooter with mouse and keyboard. Androvinus

Fixed. An actual PC shooter should have something called recoil. Real recoil doesn't involve the game assisting you by returning the reticle to the original position all by itself and mostly just moving the weapon model so that it looks like recoil.

[QUOTE="YuriSH"][QUOTE="glez13"]

Well yes this could be another possibility. It being "casual", as in making it casual by force :twisted:

So if easy to pick=casual and CoD=easy to pick, then CoD=casual.

This is fact, since it follows logic.;)

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]you are playing on pc. its extremely easy to play a shooter with mouse and keyboard. N30F3N1X

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The control scheme makes the difference between a core and a casual game, right :roll: ?

Need to define casual.

Need to define casual.

Silverbond

.......and after all the random debate someone finally asked this in the end of page 3.:|

Simple to play, but hard to master.racing1750

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[QUOTE="Androvinus"]you are playing on pc. its extremely easy to play a shooter with mouse and keyboard.Androvinus

*sigh*

The control scheme makes the difference between a core and a casual game, right :roll: ?

You said mouse and keyboard specifically. ArmA 2 is a shooter. You can put two and two together.

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]

[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

*sigh*

The control scheme makes the difference between a core and a casual game, right :roll: ?

N30F3N1X

You said mouse and keyboard specifically. ArmA 2 is a shooter. You can put two and two together.

and you still dont know what I am talking about...and it would probably take you all day to understand. You are taking my statement out of context and I wont waste my time further.

Simple to play, but hard to master.racing1750

not really

you must love cod

It is, but not as much as say Halo. Halo is by far the most casual of all the popular shooters. Games like Socom are made more for the hardcore.

Gamtrix

Aside from the first game, its expansion and the second game, I'd say it is with a resounding "YES!"

Modern Warfare basically cemented it as a mainly casual series. Its what is making Activision the big bucks... despite screwing a lot of people over (even with subscriptions on the horizon) the casuals will still pay to play... no matter what, because it makes them "cool."

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[QUOTE="YuriSH"]No it is not. Just because it's easy to play for you guys doesn't mean it's easy for casuals. They tend to have lack of coordination when dealing with controllers and I've seen this plenty of times to know it isn't as casual as people think it is. Games like Duck Hunt and Time Crisis I'd say is more casual than CoDiammason

It's easy to play for my CLASSMATES. People who has never, ever, touched a game, and only tried it with my laptop at school.

If you really believe it's not casual, then you should check how in touch with reality you are.

Semi-casual I think.

It looks like MOH is going to be better than COD Black Ops.

Link about beta improvement

I recall everyone hyping the first MW to death here, and after it became popular people just started calling it casual. i think you should call theseries what you want, but i'm not getting black ops.

Simple to play, but hard to master.racing1750

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[QUOTE="YuriSH"] But I don't think that's the case for casual gamers. We think it's easy to pick up to play because we have played shooters before. Just from past things I've seen, casuals seems to have lots of issues trying to move using two analogs, so while someone could say it's trying to appeal to casual it doesn't necessarily mean it's very casual friendly I really doubt a casual could just pick up a controller and play CoD with ease.YuriSH

What constitutes as casual? A game that requires skill to overcome highly dynamic ai/hardcore online players? Or a game where you have to manage an inventory of a thousand items? Note that I'm not at all implying that MW2 falls under the first category, just simply asking an open ended question.

[QUOTE="racing1750"]Simple to play, but hard to master.toast_burner

[QUOTE="racing1750"]Simple to play, but hard to master.millerlight89

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[QUOTE="Androvinus"] Good job completely missing the point. the poster said that casuals have lack of coordination dealing with controllers.

Androvinus

You said mouse and keyboard specifically. ArmA 2 is a shooter. You can put two and two together.

and you still dont know what I am talking about...and it would probably take you all day to understand. You are taking my statement out of context and I wont waste my time further.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="racing1750"]Simple to play, but hard to master.Gamtrix

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] What no. If it was easy to master, it would be easy to master for everyone thus making it hard to master. To call Cod casual and Halo hardcore is absurd. Halo is a much more simple straight forward game. Cod is way more "complex" then Halo is. And don't even try to say "competitive Halo" theres competitive Cod too. Gamtrix

lol halo is not more simple

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"] What no. If it was easy to master, it would be easy to master for everyone thus making it hard to master. To call Cod casual and Halo hardcore is absurd. Halo is a much more simple straight forward game. Cod is way more "complex" then Halo is. And don't even try to say "competitive Halo" theres competitive Cod too. Gamtrix

But it takes longer to kill people in Halo so the lack or recoil doesnt matter. Cod is by far the most noob freindly game ever made. The game is about whoever shoots first. Cod is so popular because of how easy it is. Anyone can kill anyone in that game

On a scale of Peggle to Dragon Age, COD is down with Wii Sports and Nintendogs as games non-gamers want to just pick up and play. It's a very familiar experience, explosions and boolets just like popular war films. Your health regenerates for you, the action becomes the rule not the exception, and in the end you may as well have been playing a Michael Bay movie. Take that as you will.

But let me know when you see a bunch of college football jocks invite all their friends over for beer and Counter-Strike.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="chaplainDMK"] Halo easier the Call of Duty? yeah right... Call of Duty has zero recoil, evreybody dies in two to three shots, you move like you're superman etc. In Halo you actualy have to aim and use tactics to kill someone, it aint just about who saw who first. _Judge_Gabranth

But it takes longer to kill people in Halo so the lack or recoil doesnt matter. Cod is by far the most noob freindly game ever made. The game is about whoever shoots first. Cod is so popular because of how easy it is. Anyone can kill anyone in that game

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="chaplainDMK"] Halo easier the Call of Duty? yeah right... Call of Duty has zero recoil, evreybody dies in two to three shots, you move like you're superman etc. In Halo you actualy have to aim and use tactics to kill someone, it aint just about who saw who first. Anjunaddict

lol halo is not more simple

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]Wth? But in cod to be good your KD ratio isn't going to be the same as Halo... You have no clue here really. Halo is much more simple game, the mechanics are MUCH easier, and it's even designed from an artstyle for a more causal wider audience. Halo has no recoil either... Gamtrix

lol halo is not more simple

Theres nothing to learn when it comes to perks, killstreaks etc. Theyre just options you select at the start of the game. And having a pavelow killing for you requires no skill at all. I love MW2, but its much easier to dominate in that game than it is Halo 3.

Halo is about weapon strategy, knowing the map, and just knowing how to fire a gun and move around. Good players, even if they get hit from behind, will be able to turn around and flip that battle back into their favour.

Both series cater to both casuals and hardcore, thats why they sell 10 million +. Its not something to bash either for.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

lol halo is not more simple

Anjunaddict

Theres nothing to learn when it comes to perks, killstreaks etc. Theyre just options you select at the start of the game. And having a pavelow killing for you requires no skill at all. I love MW2, but its much easier to dominate in that game than it is Halo 3.

Halo is about weapon strategy, knowing the map, and just knowing how to fire a gun and move around. Good players, even if they get hit from behind, will be able to turn around and flip that battle back into their favour.

Both series cater to both casuals and hardcore, thats why they sell 10 million +. Its not something to bash either for.

Casual players can play call of duty but alot of hardcore gamers play it too

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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]Wth? But in cod to be good your KD ratio isn't going to be the same as Halo... You have no clue here really. Halo is much more simple game, the mechanics are MUCH easier, and it's even designed from an artstyle for a more causal wider audience. Halo has no recoil either... Gamtrix

lol halo is not more simple

CoD is't in the pro circuit, Halo 3 is... and for a good reason.

Sorry sir, but you are gonna have to provide a GT to show you have actually played Halo.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

lol halo is not more simple

alfredooo

CoD is't in the pro circuit, Halo 3 is... and for a good reason.

Sorry sir, but you are gonna have to provide a GT to show you have actually played Halo.

Yes it is. And I've played plenty of Halo, I know the call outs for narrows for exampel, R1, L1, R2, L2 top mid etc lol. Halo fans are way to defensive, I'm not even bashing Halo, it's just beyond ridiculous that you guys think Cod is casual and Halo isn't. That's just ansurd reasoning. Gamtrix

So no GT?

In Cod anyone can kill anyone its just whoever shoots first and with all the aim assist its hard to miss. That is why Cod is casual

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[QUOTE="Gamtrix"] If it isn't more simple, it's just as simple. No aim down the sights, no perks, no sprint, no classes, no weapons custumization, no killstreaks, no prone. Halo is learn the maps and practice, Cod is learn the maps, guns, perks, killstreaks, techniques like drop shot etc. All I'm saying is either both are casual or none are casual. Do you disagree there? Do you think Cod is casual and halo isn't? I mean before someone says "Halo has teh MLG!" So does cod...Gamtrix

CoD is't in the pro circuit, Halo 3 is... and for a good reason.

Sorry sir, but you are gonna have to provide a GT to show you have actually played Halo.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="alfredooo"]

CoD is't in the pro circuit, Halo 3 is... and for a good reason.

Sorry sir, but you are gonna have to provide a GT to show you have actually played Halo.

Ravensmash

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]Yes it is. And I've played plenty of Halo, I know the call outs for narrows for exampel, R1, L1, R2, L2 top mid etc lol. Halo fans are way to defensive, I'm not even bashing Halo, it's just beyond ridiculous that you guys think Cod is casual and Halo isn't. That's just ansurd reasoning. Gamtrix

I guess its official you have no idea what you are talking about. How is Hardcore mode competetive? It takes even less skill then regular Cod becuase people die even faster.

Mostly yes.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Gamtrix"]Yes it is. And I've played plenty of Halo, I know the call outs for narrows for exampel, R1, L1, R2, L2 top mid etc lol. Halo fans are way to defensive, I'm not even bashing Halo, it's just beyond ridiculous that you guys think Cod is casual and Halo isn't. That's just ansurd reasoning. Gamtrix