is DD too good for devs and just too bad for everyone else?

Digital distribution is good for devs but bad for everyone else involved imo.

I think that if devs had less competition from sh sales and retailers the price of games could actually rise.Games would come out more frequently and from a lot of different devs,causing a saturation of the market leading to consumer apathy.

A lot of people would lose their jobs across the board,from retailers to manufacturers.

i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.

But at least the top devs would have more money which is the main thing right?

>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.skilfulgary

It's bad for the millions of people who don't have access to broadband internet and those with bandwidth caps.

It's bad for the millions of people who don't have access to broadband internet and those with bandwidth caps.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="skilfulgary"]>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="skilfulgary"]>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.ShadowDeathX

The only bad thing about digital copies is that you don't get the physical stuff. Otherwise it's the same, maybe even better because you can't break a disc that's necessary for the game to work.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="skilfulgary"] [QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="skilfulgary"]>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.Bigboi500

It's good for developers and consumers. That's all that matters.

Everyone else involved in gaming hurts it. Publishers and retailers force gaming software houses to take compromises they shouldn't.

[QUOTE="skilfulgary"]>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.ShadowDeathX

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="skilfulgary"]>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.Bigboi500

So there is no consent that you can but there is no consent that you can't either, for now. Once physical retail stores start losing their power, expect publishers to push into that zone at full force.

Box/Disc gaming is cheaper than DD, and has more advantages. What is the reason to go DD? I can see it only working with the Vita - a portable. But LOL I would never buy a full priced console game with DD.Eponique

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="skilfulgary"]>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.AtariKidX

It seems like a good deal for everyone...

[QUOTE="Eponique"]Box/Disc gaming is cheaper than DD, and has more advantages. What is the reason to go DD? I can see it only working with the Vita - a portable. But LOL I would never buy a full priced console game with DD.cain006

I was talking about advantages to consumers. Me and most people don't care about the publisher.Eponique

Digital distribution is fine, and I can understand why people like it. It is certainly very beneficial to the publishers, and many gamers prefer DD because it is less clutter, more organized and added ease of use because you don't need to change discs every time you want to play a different game.

For me personally, digital distribution is bad. Sure, I have a Steam account and plenty of games on it, but I am also a game collector, and I like having mint condition discs, boxes, boxart and manuals for all my games. I mean sure, there is really no point in caring about all that stuff, but why does anyone collect anything at all? It's just a hobby of mine and I enjoy it, and digital distribution kind of kills it.

I hope games never become entirely digitally distributed, but if they do, I will still play them.

It's good for both consumers and developers. It's bad for those that are anal about discs and boxes.illmatic87

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="skilfulgary"]>i wouldn't be able to sell my well deserved hard copy which is bang out of order as i have the right to do what i like with what i own(within reason) or lend it to any of my frenemies,which would suck because i wouldn't have any excuse to see some of them if this happened.AtariKidX

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I was talking about advantages to consumers. Me and most people don't care about the publisher.cain006

Digital distribution allows for much smaller devs to create and release a game, whereas very few of the larger publishers will pick up smaller games. Look how much the indie scene booms on Steam in comparison to places like Live (more of an issue with it being hard to find).

I have no issues with the move to DD.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I was talking about advantages to consumers. Me and most people don't care about the publisher.cain006

PC has it good. I was talking about consoles though, since this is where publishers seem to b**** about used games most. The DD services on consoles are horrible. The games that appear on console DD services are usually the game that have already hit $10~$20 in retail, but on these DD services they still cost $30~$60. AC: Brotherhood is $40 on Games on Demand, but I keep hearing from friends who bought it at retail for $15. People who buy DD are getting ripped off.Eponique

It's bad for the millions of people who don't have access to broadband internet and those with bandwidth caps.

Bigboi500

Yet they can watch all the netflix thay want? I mean really the only way you go over your cap is if you are stupid and got the **** low end Interent thinking your saving or you are downloading like 20 games a month.

Yet they can watch all the netflix thay want? I mean really the only way you go over your cap is if you are stupid and got the **** low end Interent thinking your saving or you are downloading like 20 games a month.

AiurProtoss

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

It's bad for the millions of people who don't have access to broadband internet and those with bandwidth caps.

AiurProtoss

Yet they can watch all the netflix thay want? I mean really the only way you go over your cap is if you are stupid and got the **** low end Interent thinking your saving or you are downloading like 20 games a month.

You are wrong.When i buy a game for 60euro i own the box the disc and the copy from the software.....because it is just a copy from the original software.And if a buy just a license then there is no reason to pay 60~50euro for a new game....10 euro is a fair price for just a license.But all that is just rubbish in a practical sense.....when i buy something i own what i buy....like cars and cell phones.AtariKidX

This will help clarify it for you. It is the first-sale doctrine that allows us to sell on the software, even though we in no way actually own said software. The disk is ours, the software is copyrighted.

The software on my cell phone is a part of what i have buy....it is not something different.AtariKidX

You are purchasing a licence to use the software. You are not buying any ownership rights to the software. You are still restricted to the rules the copyright holder lays out for you.

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]The software on my cell phone is a part of what i have buy....it is not something different.lundy86_4

You are purchasing a licence to use the software. You are not buying any ownership rights to the software. You are still restricted to the rules the copyright holder lays out for you.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]The software on my cell phone is a part of what i have buy....it is not something different.AtariKidX

You are purchasing a licence to use the software. You are not buying any ownership rights to the software. You are still restricted to the rules the copyright holder lays out for you.

I don't buy the original software.......i just buy a copy from the original software.And even if a buy a licence that mean that i own the licence and i can do what ever i want.....sell it or keep it.Used games it is not piracy.I am against piracy because that is the real problem.......not the used game.AtariKidX

Are you purposefully ignoring information i've already posted. That licence dictates exactly what you can and cannot do with the software. You get no choice in the matter and you have no ownership. However, the first-sale doctrine dictates that we can sell games/movies/music that we have purchased.

Nobody said that used games was piracy :roll:

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You are purchasing a licence to use the software. You are not buying any ownership rights to the software. You are still restricted to the rules the copyright holder lays out for you.

ShadowDeathX

The data on the original master disc and the copies, are not the same thing.....it is just a copy.And even if i buy a licence i have the permission to sell that if i want because i own that.The piracy is the real crime....not the used games.

The owner of the software cannot tell me what to do with my disc. The only "owner" benefit I don't have is that I'm not allowed to produce copies of the disc. Other than that, I can do whatever I want.Eponique

It has nothing to do with the disk. The licence is for the software contained on that disk. They dictate what you can and cannot do with it, as they own the copyright to that software. Now, the first-sale doctrine states that we, as consumers, are allowed to sell on that disk (software included).

The data on the original master disc and the copies, are not the same thing.....it is just a copy.And even if i buy a licence i have the permission to sell that if i want because i own that.The piracy is the real crime....not the used games.

AtariKidX

[QUOTE="AtariKidX"]

The data on the original master disc and the copies, are not the same thing.....it is just a copy.And even if i buy a licence i have the permission to sell that if i want because i own that.The piracy is the real crime....not the used games.

cain006

You really don't want digital distribution on consoles. It works on the PC only because of heavy competition--every service knows you can buy from a competing service in a couple of clicks so each works hard to provide offerings that will keep you around. You will never see this on consoles; there is only one service per console and jumping to the competition requires a huge investment. Right now console services don't even bother competing with retail because they get your money either way.

That isn't true. They cannot tell you that you cannot sell your disk.PurpleMan5000